Re: ltp man page

2009-12-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Pierre Abbat wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to try out ltp. I looked at the man page and found this sentence: Pan uses the signal ratchet found in other zoo tools. Huh??? Pierre . should make sense in context of what follows; The first time pan is signaled it sends a SIGTERM to the

Re: Updating USB stack from FBSD 8.x and others

2009-12-13 Thread Bill Hacker
elekktrett...@exemail.com.au wrote: I don't know if non-profit would help us here - people would have to pay money to the non-profit entity, which would then hire someone (Alexander) to do the work. Once money gets involved with an official organization, the processes have to be very clear and

Re: Fluxbox 1.1.1 apps

2009-11-17 Thread Bill Hacker
. HTH, Bill Hacker

Re: Xorg configuration

2009-11-01 Thread Bill Hacker
jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: On Saturday 31 October 2009 22:58:27 jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: I used X -config xorg.conf.new and it came up blank. Should I post the conf or the log file? Both - we're not low on electrons. If you have someplace to put them, you can do that and

Re: Xorg configuration

2009-11-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Saifi Khan wrote: On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Bill Hacker wrote: Not sure it is germane but 'something' in xorg went at least temporarily pear-shaped on the latest FreeBSD step-ups (7.1 - 7.2 as well as 8 RC1) and one other *BSD w/r Intel VGA driver vs VESA autoselection and loading. Symptom

Re: Network maintainance on dragonflybsd.org

2009-10-28 Thread Bill Hacker
at One IAdvantage (Kwun Tong, HK) that is not critically needed for that job until December. Bill Hacker

Re: Instant crash with Linux OpenOffice

2009-06-06 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Hi, : :I have recently upgraded the root fs to Hammer on one of my machines. Since :then, I have been unable to run any version of OpenOffice. :Previously, misc/openoffice2-bin and misc/openoffice3-bin ran fine. : :The OS is DragonFly 2.2.2-RELEASE. : :The splash screen

Re: Shuttle SN78SH7 - success, and starting AHCI driver port from OpenBSD.

2009-05-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: I've upgraded my test boxes to a new generation. The Shuttle SN78SH7 barebones (meaning one must buy the cpu, memory, and drives separately), with a Phenom x4 cpu pretty much just works. Everything probes and it boots up without complaint. Dmesg output is

Re: mail/mailx question

2009-05-24 Thread Bill Hacker
Tim Darby wrote: I was trying to write a mail script and couldn't find a way to set the from field to an arbitrary address. Is there a way to do this with the base mail client? I ended up installing mutt to solve the problem. Tim AFAIK, you will need to have your script bypass mail, Mail,

Re: nb suffix to package names

2009-05-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Archimedes Gaviola wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: Hi: Noticed that some of the packages installed from the dfly 2.2.1 DVD have 'nb' suffixes, for example: xconsole-1.0.3nb1 shared-mime-info-0.51nb2 rxvt-unicode-8.3nb4 Two questions here: .

Re: Hammer error?

2009-05-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Sdävtaker wrote: Hello, I was doing some backup from Machine0 to Machine1 using hammer mirror-copy and got a suppicious new file called hammer.core. Looking around the files it looks like a success copy but i still curious about this new 720kb file. Someone can tell me if i need to worry about

Re: Disk question

2009-05-16 Thread Bill Hacker
Tim Darby wrote: I have a machine that was running Windows XP until I recently installed 2.2.2 on it. This was mainly for the purpose of trying out Hammer. It contains a 40GB drive, which I made the boot drive and installed with Hammer. The other 2 drives are a 300GB Samsung IDE and a 200GB

Re: Seize During Boot

2009-05-08 Thread Bill Hacker
TP Reitzel wrote: ohci1.pci1.pcib1.pci0.pcib0.legacypci0.nexus0.root0 ohci1: NEC uPD 9210 USB Controller [tentative] mem 0xfddff000-0xfddf irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci1 pcib1: device ohci1 requested decoded memory range 0xfddff000-0xfddf usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support

Re: Fwd: kqemu patch for DragonFly BSD on kqemu1.4.0pre1

2009-04-29 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: :Naoya Sugioka wrote: : I've just sent a mail to gnat at netbsd.org to reach pkgsrc community : if I can include them to their pkgsrc tree now. : :I don't have a good idea how to make a pkgsrc package for kernel module. :Actually I'd

Re: Mid-term release 2.2.1 slated for Sunday

2009-04-23 Thread Bill Hacker
...) Will the 'stock' installer be GUID Partition Table capable? (including creation as, installation to, and boot from) Bill Hacker

Re: Mid-term release 2.2.1 slated for Sunday

2009-04-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Question: (particularly given HAMMER's penchant for large media...) : :Will the 'stock' installer be GUID Partition Table capable? :(including creation as, installation to, and boot from) : :Bill Hacker Not unless someone did the work to integrate gpt

Re: Installing DragonFly

2009-04-15 Thread Bill Hacker
should handle the rest painlessly. You *can* 'get there from here' with a Live CD - but a fully-functional HDD install give you a richer toolset and more flexibility for relatively low cost in time and hardware - especially if the 'other' HDD can be USB-attached. HTH, Bill Hacker 2009/4/15

Re: ASUS Eee compatibility

2009-03-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Sepherosa Ziehau wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:00 AM, John Leimon jlei...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Has anybody tested the lasted version of dragonfly with an ASUS Eee netbook? I would like to know if there are any hardware compatibility issues. Old eee seemed to have msk(4), which is

Re: 1 week until Summer of Code application time

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Hacker
Sdävtaker wrote: It will be amazing if someone can get FreeBSD-UFS mountable (at least for read). I didn't realize that it wasn't Should I cease doing it? OpenBSD is problematic among slices on on same-disk, but even that is apparently resolvable via disklabel editing. Haven't felt

Re: glx module

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Hacker
Jim Chapman wrote: I installed release 2.2.0 and added the xorg packages including modular-xorg-server. When I start X I get a message Failed to load module glx (module does not exist, 0) This prevents the xorg.conf which uses the intel driver from starting. If I change the xorg.conf file to

HAMMR fs limits

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Hacker
Matt, Is HAMMER ready for this? http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=383tag=rbxccnbzd1 35 bits stored. .. per each *electron* . Stackable to 70-bits per electron. So far. Somebody must have anticipated signed integers and parity.. ;-) Bill

Re: HAMMER and RAID 5

2009-03-02 Thread Bill Hacker
Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mag Gam magaw...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if HAMMER will ever have network based RAID 5. After researching several file systems it seems HAMMER is probably the closest to achieve this problem and will make HAMMER a pioneer.

Re: Hammer FS: imposing a size limit on PFS?

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: Our installer support for HAMMER isn't advanced enough yet. What we really want is a UFS /boot, swap, and then a HAMMER root that covers everything else. I would (and have) taken that a step farther. 'once upon a time' '/usr' was not part of the core

Re: BFBI OTT bug or limitation? UPDATE2

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Hacker
Responded to off-list, as it is: A) tedious the way I did it, and not certain to have been free of hardware glitches.. B) a lead-pipe cinch that Matt will come up wth a better test methodology. ;-) Bill Matthew Dillon wrote: :Bill Hacker wrote: : Top-posting to my own post

BFBI OTT bug or limitation?

2009-02-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Brute Force and Bloody Ignorance is Over The Top when; 'du -h' saves keystrokes over: 'shutdown now' Likewise a few other ways to either reboot or drop into the debugger. Environment: Target box: VIA C7, 2 GB DDR2-533 2 X IBM 60GB PATA as NATACONTROL RAID1 2.3.0. 'default install' to

Re: Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Jasse Jansson wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Bill Hacker wrote: *trimmed* But there we are, Startup 'seeding; is unavidable, but thereafter ... among other things, looking to reduce the reliance on rsync (and similar CVS'ish or git'ish techniques) having to 'inventory' stuff

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 05:19:14PM +0100, Jasse Jansson wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bill Hacker wrote: Robert Luciani wrote: Freddie Cash wrote: Booting FreeBSD 7.1 into a full KDE 4.2 desktop takes less than 5 minutes. This is using 3x 120 GB SATA drives

Re: New mirror in Russia

2009-02-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Mon, February 23, 2009 12:18 am, Bill Hacker wrote: Does anyone have stats on how much b/w and storage the typical mirrors need to do a decent job? Mirroring from chlamydia.fs.ie.tum.de is currently 80G of space; I don't have a handle on the bandwidth usage right

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Am Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:59:57AM +1100, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote: Hopefully more 'good stuff' will be ported out

Re: OT - was Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:36:28PM +0100, Michael Neumann wrote: Am Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:17:11 -0800 schrieb Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com: *snip* The one thing we all agree on is that, generally speaking, UFS isn't cutting it. :-) *I* don't agree. Mind, we

Re: New mirror in Russia

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: http://df.v12.su/mirror/ It's mirroring from chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de nightly, so it has ISOs, packages, etc. I get good speeds to it from the other side of the planet. It's listed on the Downloads page on the DragonFly website now too. I'll add FTP access when I can

Re: Hammer or ZFS based backup, encryption

2009-02-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Freddie Cash wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Csaba Henk csaba.h...@creo.hu wrote: I need to setup a backup machine, and I intend to utilize today's snapshotty filesystems (which boils down to Dfly+Hammer or FBSD+ZFS -- btrfs is not there yet, and I don't feel like dwelving into

Re: the 'why' of pseudofs

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Jost Tobias Springenberg wrote: I do not want to sound offensive here but I don't get the point of this discussion at all. What exactly is wrong with null mounts and / or the way PFS work ? If you want to have seperate partitions instead of PFS, thats perfectly fine, nobody forces you to use

EUREKA - was the 'why' of pseudofs

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: There are several reasons for using PFSs. EUREKA! Matt - you've re-invented Ramphotyphlops braminus: Weigh this: PFS = Parthenogenetic File System hammer pfs-master = select a host. hammer pfs-slave = induce ovulation. hammer mirror-copy = self-inseminate

Re: Fwd: EUREKA - was the 'why' of pseudofs

2009-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Colin Adams wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Colin Adams colinpaulad...@googlemail.com Date: 2009/2/18 Subject: Re: EUREKA - was the 'why' of pseudofs 2009/2/18 Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org: Proven pattern among Odontata, too: http://ecoevo.uvigo.es/Olalla/index_en.htm

Re: hammer history ls

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:14:16 +0800 Bill Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote: All-numeral dating might be more human-language independent, and an input-format reminder built-in, as in: --startDDMM=20092008 --endDDMM=01012009 For all numeric it's

the 'why' of pseudofs

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Folks, Google was no help, and I have only the last 54,000 or so of the DragonFlyBSD newsgroup messages to hand on on the PowerBook, wherein a message-body search on pfs, PFS, pseudofs turned up only about 240 or so messages, or Mark One eyeball processing.. That now done, I find: Several

Re: off-box mirror-stream and friends - hacked to work

2009-02-16 Thread Bill Hacker
patch, but it JFW's. Regards, Bill Hacker - find in /usr/src/sbin/hammer/cmd_mirror.c AS READS = /* * Get a yes or no answer from the terminal. The program may be run as * part of a two-way pipe so we cannot use stdin for this operation. */ static int

Re: hammer history ls

2009-02-16 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Hi again, *trimmed* If you wanted to get really fancy you could also implement date ranges. hammer --start-date=20-Sep-2008 --end-date=01-Jan-2009 ... -Matt Yes, PLEASE! More work - one time. But bound to

off-box mirror-stream and friends

2009-02-15 Thread Bill Hacker
' be changed to a 5-second countdown-timer with a message such as: Creating new_slave Hit Ctrl-c to abort .absent which it JFDI. Thanks, Bill Hacker

Re: 2.2 Release Progress Update #2

2009-02-15 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Questions w/r Rel 2.2 and HAMMER: : *trimmed* :Query 1: :- Will 2.2 have the Version 2 / 'WIP' or otherwise? No. Its still version 1 because the version 2 tests did not pan out. Do not use version 2 (and the hammer program will complain a lot if you try).

Re: off-box mirror-stream and friends

2009-02-15 Thread Bill Hacker
it JFDI. : :Thanks, : :Bill Hacker That won't work, the target over an ssh link has no tty channel. Adding an option to create the slave automatically and passing it to the target hammer utility when it is run via the ssh, so it never has to ask at all, would work. If someone would

Re: HAMMER hosed?

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: .or perhaps not.. Have 120 GB HDD sliced for: - FreeBSD - DFLY with hammerfs - OpenBSD - NetBSD FreeBSD installed last. Unfortunately, did not think to do the within-slice partitioning for FreeBSD with DragonFly's modern toolset

Re: HAMMER hosed?

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Bill Hacker wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Hi Simon, Thanks for the quick reply... The install would have used whatever the default was as of the DEVELOPMENT snapshot of just a few days ago. DFLY was happy cooperating with the (at the time) DFLY, Slackware

Re: HAMMER hosed?

2009-02-13 Thread Bill Hacker
Bill Hacker wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: Hi Simon, Thanks for the quick reply... The install would have used whatever the default was as of the DEVELOPMENT snapshot of just a few days ago. DFLY was happy cooperating

Re: New site design

2008-06-04 Thread Bill Hacker
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: James Frazer put together a nice site redesign based on some discussion we had here before. He sent me a copy of it all, and I'm only now catching up enough to show it: http://www.shiningsilence.com:81/ I'm happy with the layout and content; I'm looking for further

Re: Announcing DragonFly mirror stats

2008-05-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Christian Sturm wrote: Hi, I set up a mirror stats script on: http://www.dragonfly.dublu.org/ Well, in fact this page links to two status pages. One shows the package mirrors status and the other the status of snapshot mirrors. They are more or less self describing. I want to thank Simon for

Re: Installation on Macbook Pro

2008-03-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Christopher Rawnsley wrote: Here is a little update for my problem... On 12 Mar 2008, at 02:48, YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: IIRC, you need to fiddle with ad5*. A better alternative I can think of is to partition (or maybe even disklabel it and newfs -O1) using FreeBSD installer first, then boot

Re: One thing ive been wondering for a long while

2008-03-12 Thread Bill Hacker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one list all diskdrives connected to the system (the ones mounted AND unmounted) on a BSD system without looking at dmesg? Normally, id look into dmesg to find that ie. my usb drive is on da0 or da1, but there must be a much better way to find out. Cheers, Petr

Re: Installation on Macbook Pro

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Hacker
Christopher Rawnsley wrote: On 9 Mar 2008, at 21:10, Bill Hacker wrote: I would actually recommend an external HDD on FW-800 or USB2. I don't have one of those handy at the moment so I think I'll keep on trying without for the moment. Apple marches to the beat of a whole different

Re: Installation on Macbook Pro

2008-03-09 Thread Bill Hacker
Christopher Rawnsley wrote: Hey everyone, I'm having a few problems when trying to install 1.12 on a Macbook Pro. So it loads off the DVD (I didn't have any CDs spare but it seems to work fine) and, after a bit, a prompt comes up so I can choose what kernel I want. So here is the first

Re: Installation on Macbook Pro

2008-03-09 Thread Bill Hacker
Christopher Rawnsley wrote: On 9 Mar 2008, at 19:55, Bill Hacker wrote: What else has had its fingers on that disk and its label prior to the attempt? Well I used the Boot Camp Assistant (basically a partitioner) from within Mac OS X which resized my disk for installing Windows. So

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-03-09 Thread Bill Hacker
Kris Kennaway wrote: Adrian Michael Nida wrote: SnipAndRearrange/ The benchmark at http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/os-mysql.png SnipAndRearrange/ Is measuring 1.8. We're at 1.12 now. I'm sure an updated graph has a different trend. Take it upon yourself to redo the benchmark.

Re: FreeBSD 7, DragonFly's status

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: Well, I'll give you my 5-second opinion. *snip* * Our interrupt routing subsystem really needs a major upgrade. (i.e. a major port from FreeBSD). Given that theirs has choked several times on some fairly common hardware that DID work thru 6.2

Re: Dragonfly Routers

2008-02-23 Thread Bill Hacker
Adrian Chadd wrote: On 20/02/2008, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Routing and firewalling is a specialty that has become a very high-volume hardware/ASIC/RTOS field where any router a PC could at one time match on speed has become so cheap and flexible off-the-shelf it is no longer

Re: Dragonfly Routers

2008-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Dave Hayes wrote: Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Hayes wrote: Has anyone here tried to use DragonFly BSD as a router where the box had more than 4 network interfaces? I'm wondering if too many network interfaces on one machine would have performance issues? What sort of hardware

Re: Dragonfly Routers

2008-02-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Dave Hayes wrote: Has anyone here tried to use DragonFly BSD as a router where the box had more than 4 network interfaces? I'm wondering if too many network interfaces on one machine would have performance issues? What sort of hardware, application, load? I've run six pci-bus 10/100 NICs as

Re: Mounting dragonfly ufs in freebsd

2008-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Jonas Trollvik wrote: On 2/1/08, Chris Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kind of a PITA, but if you can read 'a', you could keep 2 labels in 'a', and relabel it as required.. (as long as the label doesn't extend into the partition hose things up ..) if the filesystem is working, it's

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: Just use rsync, and shut up about it already. What are you people blabering about? Fair question, simple answer. Not wanting to throw a useful tool out on specious grounds. cvsup SUCKS. Not my field of expertise. Google 'Escort

Re: rsync vs. cvsup benchmarks

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Turner wrote: I have some benchmark test results comparing rsync to cvsup. okay.. so like: you'd think with all of these repository copies flying around, there'd be a lot less flaming and a lot more coding going on.. enough! sheesh.. You people are making me want to write

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Hello Vincent, Vincent Stemen wrote: The results are dramatic, with rsync performing hundreds of percent faster on average while only loading the processor on the client side a little over a third as much as cvsup. Either the performance claims about cvsup

Re: rsync considered superior

2008-01-30 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: *snip* Simon, Your command of the *language* is superb. But it isn't about debating skills. Test 100 simultaneous connections. Or Not. IDGASEW Bill

Re: Some mail from dragonfly.users being rejected

2008-01-29 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 02:24:52AM +, Bill Hacker wrote: Vincent Stemen wrote: Hopefully tmda will white list based on the sender address. Tmda does tend to eventually earn a net reduction in traffic. One way or another... Bill True :-). It did white list based

Re: Some mail from dragonfly.users being rejected

2008-01-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Hopefully tmda will white list based on the sender address. Tmda does tend to eventually earn a net reduction in traffic. One way or another... Bill

Re: kernel can't find boot device ad

2008-01-25 Thread Bill Hacker
mustkaru wrote: Hi, I successfully installed Dragonfly on my laptop and compiled a new kernel. However, when booting the new kernel panics: can't find boot device 'ad' (root is on /dev/ad0s1a). There is no 'ad' in the list of devices recognized by kernel. ata0 appears in the boot messages

Re: how to get dragonfly and freebsd source code

2008-01-22 Thread Bill Hacker
dark0s Optik wrote: But I don't want to program in assembly, but in C language. For example, I would like to analyze C code of FreeBSD or Linux for processors. I'm not capable to assemble hardware. 2008/1/21, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think you have deciide exactly *what* you want

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: People shouldn't worry about server side overhead all that much. Cpu cycles are cheap and the cvs tree is completely cached in memory anyway. And the only effect that extra network bandwidth has is that it takes a little longer to run the operation. Now,

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: One of the original reasons for using cvsup was so people could maintain local branches of the repository. I don't think people do this much anymore, if they do it all. Disk space is so cheap these days that keeping a master

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: CVS has been the 'compromise' that is at least not harmful or overly demanding. CVS *is* harmful. To you, and other running experimental differences, perhaps so.. I can't run a patch and work on a different issue myself - I'll mix both

Re: cvsup

2008-01-21 Thread Bill Hacker
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: *trimmed* The bottom line - viewing it not a a coder, which I haven't been for around 30 years - but as a Manager of scarce resources - primarily *time*, and not even my own in this case - is that: - Apparent: No readily available 'one

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :But - at the end of the day - how much [extra?] on-disk space will be :needed to insure mount 'as-of' is 'good enough' for some realisitic span :(a week?, a month?)? 'Forever' may be too much to ask. The amount of disk needed is precisely the same as the amount of

Re: cvsup

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* Unless I am overlooking something obvious, It is not likely so many projects would be using cvsup for as long as they have if the rsync advantage was that great, or that simple [1]. Have you: A) compared the loads and bandwidth as well as the time on BOTH

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: I'm guessing it will be a while yet before HAMMER is ready for this, but it seems to be moving fast - and cleanly - so... Sorry to hijack this thread. Just wanna mention a little write down of mine about HammerFS features (and sometimes comparing

Re: Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Sorry to hijack this thread. Not to worry! It was *intended* to be 'hijacked'. Welcome! Just wanna mention a little write down of :mine about HammerFS features (and sometimes comparing it with ZFS): : :http://www.ntecs.de/blog/articles/2008/01/17/zfs-vs-hammerfs :

Re: USB stack

2008-01-16 Thread Bill Hacker
Hasso Tepper wrote: Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Then devices should be probed and if there is a better match than ugen and if the ugen device is not open, it should be detached from ugen and attached to the new driver. Do you think this would be possible? There is a lot of things that

Futures - HAMMER comparison testing?

2008-01-14 Thread Bill Hacker
], or are there benchmarks already appropriate? Bill Hacker [1] I don't know that ZFS *inherently* plays in the cluster yet - but Lustre was allegedly purchased in order to be worked in with ZFS so... 'maybe soon'. [2] Tracking ZFS from mailing lists gives me the impression that is has been

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-12 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: On 2008-01-12, Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent wrote: Hi. If my cwd gets renamed by another process, it disappears out from under me. To reproduce: $ mkdir zzz1 $ cd zzz1 In another shell: $ mv zzz1 zzz2 Back in the first shell: $ ls ls

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-12 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent Stemen wrote: *snip* the name to stay the same, not just the inode. I also verified it was not a characteristic of the specific shell. I got the same behavior in Zshell as well as sh. I overlooked that, but I don't *think* the shell makes a difference on this issue. FWIW - I

Re: renaming the current working directory (cwd)

2008-01-11 Thread Bill Hacker
Vincent wrote: Hi. If my cwd gets renamed by another process, it disappears out from under me. To reproduce: $ mkdir zzz1 $ cd zzz1 In another shell: $ mv zzz1 zzz2 Back in the first shell: $ ls ls: .: No such file or directory $ cd .. cd: no such file or directory: .. This seems to be

Re: Qemu running on DragonFly

2007-12-02 Thread Bill Hacker
bridge0 up qemu -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap2,script=no -hda diskfile.img -m 256 -localtime Thank you for that! Bill Hacker

Re: Adding ad[4-6]s* to default devices

2007-10-28 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Turner wrote: Any thoughts? More systems are coming out with 2 controllers - a PATA and a SATA, and as a result there might be more users using ad4 and so on.. Three or more is becoming more common now. - legacy IDE / PATA in bridge chipset - vanilla as to (emulated) bus, addr, etc.

Re: Weird issues with fdisk/dd

2007-06-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Joe Holden wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: What are you running, the 1.8 release or 1.9 development? There are some very major differences in how storage is handled between the two. It kinda looks like you are running 1.9. I am indeed running 1.9. For 1.9 you are going to have

Re: tty/pty/console wish

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: I think the last time I used screen was 20 years ago. I just leave all my xterms open. Sometimes I have upwards of 30 windows open across four virtual screens in X. When people were describing the NATA bugs I had an xterm open in an unsaved vi for over a

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/disk/fd fd.c fdc.h

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Hacker
Petr Janda wrote: Matt Emmerton wrote: You may be interested to know that my primary DFly development machine is an AMD Sempron-based system with a BIOS date of late 2004. This machine could hardly be considered ancient, but yet it has ISA slots and numerous other devices that rely on the

Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1

2007-05-05 Thread Bill Hacker
are probably not needed for your project at all *unless* their newest features - not just Gcc 4.x - are specifically part of the project itself. HTH, Bill Hacker and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you

Re: Need Reassurance for using DragonFly for Prodduction

2007-04-08 Thread Bill Hacker
Siju George wrote: *snip* Does it run quite Well on Intel's Core2Duo 1.8 Runs fine here on Core-D, both dual single core, 2.8 3.0 GHz, tested with 1 GB SDRAM, DDR 266, 2 GB DDR2 @ 800 MHz fsb. Tyan, Asus, MSi, et al. Should be no problem on Core-2 Duo 1024 MHz fsb with commodity

Re: Anyone got a trailer I can borrow?

2007-03-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just wondering if DragonFly will ever support UltraSPARC platforms? It's a silly question, as I already know it depends entirely on manpower, but have a look at what showed up on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220092087657 26 processors, 26GB ram,

Re: To be a new DFly commiter

2007-03-18 Thread Bill Hacker
Michel Talon wrote: *trimmed* work, and in particular they have understood the obvious, that is a ports system must be centered about binary packages, not recompiling source. This is true for at least two reasons: - first, today users don't want to lose time compiling Often true.

Re: wiki log of #dragonfly irc channel

2007-03-09 Thread Bill Hacker
Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 01:28:10AM +, Helge Rohde wrote: Yeah, i would have thought so too. But apparently they do bend their rules when the see the need, atleast in Germany they *can* put you into jail until you tell them the passphrase and i have heard similar

Re: 1.8.x: fdisk and disklabel fails to operate disk

2007-02-24 Thread Bill Hacker
Tero Mäntyvaara wrote: Hi! I have used Linux. I managed to install 1.8.x to my system (in one drive) and it boot as I expected. I headed to make my hard drive mirrored, 'Mirrored' by which means, of the several available? i.e. - are you on 'raw' ata / nata, 'psuedo-RAID' ata controller,

Re: Native jdk build - success

2007-02-20 Thread Bill Hacker
Francois Tigeot wrote: Hi, Today, I finally succeeded in building a native version of wip/jdk14. The big difference with my previous attempts was the DragonFly version: 1.4.5-RELEASE So, we have: 1.4.5 = success 1.6.2 = failure 1.8.0 = failure No matter what version of the pkgsrc system I

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Robert Luciani wrote: *snip* (clustering discussion..) Jokingly: I think the notion of functional individual computers helping each other out sounds a bit like neourons in a brain. The technological singularity is coming, nothing can stop it! Oddly, they *are* - but not in the way

Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
error: unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34 *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34 *** Error code 1 Stop. bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/lang/gcc34-ada Bill Hacker

Re: Installing Dragonfly 1.8 hangs BIOS completly

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
Michael Neumann wrote: Hi, Just a few minutes ago, I installed Dragonfly 1.8 onto my laptop. Then I rebooted, and the BIOS hung up completely after showing that it detected the harddisk and cdrom. I powered down and tried again, but that didn't worked either. I couldn't even boot a CD or

Re: Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Bill Hacker wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:34:37 +0800 From: Bill Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: dragonfly.users Subject: Gcc-ada errata? Anyone seen this (DFLY 1.8 REL, Celeron 1 GHz, 512MB SDRAM, IBM/Hitachi PATA 20GB HDD): = # cd /usr/pkgsrc

Re: Gcc-ada errata?

2007-02-19 Thread Bill Hacker
walt wrote: Bill Hacker wrote: . Joy! gcc 4.0 and later should be OK as-is? Well, corecode has imported just the bare-nekkid gcc/g++ parts, not the fancy stuff like ada. But -- maybe the native ada-4.1.2 code will compile without a bootstrap ada compiler, dunno. === From the DFLY

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-18 Thread Bill Hacker
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Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Besides the finalization of vkernel, what else can we expect into 2.0? There are many long-awaited (not only by me) features and additions: :- ZFS I am seriously considering our options with regards to ZFS or a ZFS-like filesystem. We clearly need something to

Re: vkernel migration

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just an idea for thought over your next coffee... I'm if it would be to conceivably possible to move a vkernel process(and any sub-processes it had) to another host? It'd have to stop temporarily, or at least, slow down immensely while pumping all the userland data inside the

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Csanady wrote: very well-thought-out post in re ZFS. Thanks! I'd only add that porting one or more 'foreign' fs in general seem to be a good idea - it is bound to show up things not yet covered well. In all of the published comparison tests, I have never seen a single 'always best' fs

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