Re: M_PIl

2012-09-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday, September 03, 2012 11:15:02 Jelle Hermsen wrote:
 Using a bignum library like GMP ( http://gmplib.org/ ) might be a good
 idea when precision is that important.

This program doesn't use or need bignums, and GMP has neither infinity nor NaN 
nor trig functions.

Pierre
-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.



Re: M_PIl

2012-09-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday, August 31, 2012 18:33:36 Jelle Hermsen wrote:
 Personally I just define pi with 4*atan(1). Is there a good reason to use
 M_PI1 instead?

I defined M_PIl as (4*atan(1.)) and ran the program. It gave the same result as 
defining M_PIl as M_PI. The reason for using M_PIl is that it's a ten-byte 
float, so multiplying by it will result in better accuracy than multiplying by 
M_PI, which is an eight-byte float.

I once wrote a Mandelbrot/Julia program that gave wrong results; it was 
continuing the iteration instead of stopping when it saw a previously seen 
value. I submitted a bug to the GCC authors. It turned out to be not a bug in 
the compiler. The program was comparing a just-computed point, expressed as a 
ten-byte float in the processor, with a previously computed point, expressed as 
an eight-byte float in a double variable, and they were not equal.

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.



M_PIl

2012-08-31 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'm developing a program which represents angles internally as binary 
fractions (0x8000 means 360°). To convert the angle to radians, I used 
M_PI originally, felt I needed more accuracy, and found that Linux has M_PIl, 
which has a few extra digits so that it is accurate as a ten-byte float (the 
processor's internal representation). DFBSD doesn't have M_PIl, so I wrote a 
preprocessor directive which uses M_PI if M_PIl doesn't exist. I run a test 
which adds sin 45° to sin 225° and such combinations around the circle, 
squares the errors, and adds them up.

  printf(total sine error=%e\n,totsinerror);
  printf(total cosine error=%e\n,totcoserror);
  printf(total cis error=%e\n,totciserror);
  assert(totsinerror+totcoserror+totciserror1e-29);
  //On Linux, the total error is 6e-39 and the M_PIl makes a big difference.
  //On DragonFly BSD, the total error is 5e-30 and M_PIl is absent.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.




Starting KDE causes computer to freeze

2012-08-21 Thread Pierre Abbat
I just upgraded the kernel to v3.1.0.1391.g26dd3-DEVELOPMENT and rebooted. I 
then logged into KDE. I got a window saying that Nepomuk Stub had crashed, 
which hadn't happened before (I see a window saying that Konversation 
crashes, when it's been running several days). A few seconds later, while my 
browser window was reloading its tabs from last session, the computer froze. 
I rebooted with the power button and the exact same thing happened.

I then tried booting the old kernel. When it tried to initialize the network, 
I saw the same sort of nonsensical interface names as when I booted the new 
kernel (for fixing the hosed filesystem) wiht the old world.

I have succeeded in logging into XFCE, so I have a useful GUI, but the start 
button is missing.

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.


Re: Latest pkgsrc status - as compared to last report of 11 August (+66)

2012-08-17 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 15 August 2012 13:35:23 John Marino wrote:
 This was a full run, nothing was masked.  We're over 11,700 packages for
 now (96.4%).  The build logs are available this time, see link below.
 Most of the regressions have already been fixed by their maintainers and
 Asterisk 10 should build cleanly next time.

Where should I point pkgin? I checked the usual location and there are no 
packages for i386.

Pierre

-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-14 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 14 August 2012 10:28:07 Antonio Huete Jimenez wrote:
 Folks,

 Patch to skip redo recovery is here:
 http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~tuxillo/archive/patches/hammer_skipredo02.pat
ch

 I've built an i386 kernel + modules with that patch, and it can be
 downloaded from here:
 http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~tuxillo/archive/temp/kernel_skip_redo.tar.bz2

 Pierre, patch above adds a tunable that can be used to skip redo recovery
 during a normal hammer mount. You need to set vfs.hammer.skip_redo to what
 you actually need in your /boot/loader.conf. Possible values are:

 0 - Run redo recovery normally and fail to mount if
 the operation fails (default).
 1 - Run redo recovery, but don't fail to mount if the
 operation fails.
 2 - Completely skip redo recovery (only for severe error
 conditions and/or debugging.

 You may want to start setting it to 1 and if it doesn't mount, then set it
 to 2.
 Let us know how it goes.

With it set to 1, it boots, but there are a few messages after it says 
recovery is optional. With it set to 2, it still boots. Either way, the 
network interfaces are hosed. When running netif start, it says ifconfig: 
interface *** does not exist, where the three stars are spade, heart, spade. 
dmesg, whose beginning is cut off, shows that that's ^F^C^F. Various other 
interfaces whose names are control characters are brought up, none with an IP 
address, but with lladdr 0, 0.0, 0.0.0, 0.0.0.0, 0.0.0.0.0, and 0.0.0.0.0.0. 
I set skip_redo to 1, trying to see the errors, and they aren't there. I 
guess unmounting the filesystem fixed the errors.

I booted the old kernel, after doing all this, and succeeded. ifconfig looks 
normal, except that em0's IPv6 address is missing. I am therefore renaming 
the previous kernel to kernel, and will keep this one as kernel.skip_redo.  I 
recommend keeping the patch in case this comes up again.

Pierre

-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-13 Thread Pierre Abbat
hammer show-undo on that filesystem succeeded.

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-13 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 13 August 2012 15:38:46 Matthew Dillon wrote:
If you have a DDB prompt you can hit the scoll-lock button and then
cursor up.

HAMMER(ROOT) recovery check seqno=7a824b53
recovery range 308735b0-30878e48
recovery nexto 30878e48 endseqno=7a824c80
recovery undo 308735b0-30878e48 (22680 bytes)(RW)
Found REDO_SYNC 308516b0
Ignoring extra REDO_SYNC records in UNDO/REDO FIFO. (9 times)
recovery complete
recovery redo 308735b0-30878e48 (22680 bytes)(RW)
Find extended redo 308516b0, 139008 exbytes
panic: lockmgr: LK_RELEASE: no lock held
cpuid = 0

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


fails to mount root

2012-08-12 Thread Pierre Abbat
My UPS glitched and rebooted the computers. The DF box kernel-panicked like 
this:

lockmgr
vx_unlock
vnode_terminate
_sysref_put
vrele
vput
hammer_recover_stage2
hammer_vfs_mount
vfs_mount
vfs_mountroot_try(c06e220a,0,c[6e21f8,c8,0) at vfs_mountroot_try+0x242 
0xc03df6de
vfs_mountroot(0,e68c00,e68c00,e79000,e79000) at vfs_mountroot+0x8c 0xc03dfbb8
mi_startup(e68000,0,0,0,0) at mi_startup+0x89 0xc0358af0
begin() at begin+0x42 0xc0164b3b
Debugger: panic()

CPU0 stopping CPUs: 0x0002

I tried safe mode, single-user mode, and an old kernel, all with the same 
result. Now what do I do?

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-12 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 12 August 2012 10:51:45 Sascha Wildner wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:38:33 +0200, Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu

 wrote:
  I tried an old CD of DFly 2.8.2 and it said wrong superblock when I
  tried to
  mount it. I'll try booting a recent version and see what happens.

 Were you using mount instead of mount_hammer?

I may have had the wrong partition. What happens if you mount a Hammer volume 
on a kernel that was compiled before that Hammer version was introduced?

If I have to recover the volume, I have another partition on another disk, but 
it's a LUKS volume. How do I unlock it when I boot from the CD?

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-12 Thread Pierre Abbat
I realized after typing that that partition c is the whole-disk partition and 
tried d. This time it said mount unsupported fs version 5. So I have to 
download the latest USB or CD and boot that. I succeeded at unlocking the 
crypt volume, but it's version 6.

Pierre

-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko


Re: fails to mount root

2012-08-12 Thread Pierre Abbat
I burned a CD and attempted to mount the faulty partition and got the same 
error as booting from the HDD. Then I rebooted and don't know what to do 
next.

Pierre

-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


Re: Fwd: df64 pkgsrc 2012Q2 DragonFly 3.0/x86_64 2012-07-24 11:35

2012-08-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 07 August 2012 10:08:37 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 I am in a spot with limited bandwidth, so I can't confirm this, but this
 should have uploaded as pkgsrc-2012q2 on Avalon.  I haven't had a i386
 build complete yet.  Hasn't crashed yet, though...

Looks good! How far along is the i386 build?

Pierre

-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera


Re: Fwd: df64 pkgsrc 2012Q2 DragonFly 3.0/x86_64 2012-07-24 11:35

2012-08-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 07 August 2012 17:16:28 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 It was somewhere around 2500, I think, and then the filesystem filled up.
 It was writing to disk faster than it was pruning, I think, because when I
 got to it, the disk had plenty of room from subsequent pruning.  I
 restarted it but I doubt it will finish any differently than before; it
 will crash with that one error.

You restarted it where it left off, or from the beginning?

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: solid-state drives

2012-08-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday 03 August 2012 04:19:22 Jelle Hermsen wrote:
 Thanks for all these great tips. I'm building a new workstation and I'll
 probably buy an ssd and use it as root. I'm thinking about maximizing
 the amount of ram and then use tmpfs for /tmp. This will (hopefully)
 still leave me with enough memory to avoid swapping all together so I
 can put the swap partition on a spinning platter drive.
 The only thing that still leads me to doubt is the fact that I won't be
 able to use dedup on the ssd and compared to using a couple of 10,000rpm
 disks in raid 0 the random write performance is not that impressive.

I don't see why you can't, or shouldn't, dedup an SSD. Deduping looks for 
identical sectors and frees one of them; since an SSD is completely 
random-access, there's no penalty for having some sectors far from the file's 
inode. Recopying an SSD is what makes no sense.

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera


solid-state drives

2012-08-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
This is a spinoff of the Aleutia question, since Aleutia puts SSDs in 
computers. How does the periodic Hammer job handle SSDs? Does reblocking do 
anything different than on an HDD? If a computer has an SSD and an HDD, which 
should get the swap space?

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko


Re: Aleutia

2012-07-31 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 29 July 2012 15:15:54 Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:
 Write a email to the support department and ask for a dragonfly dmesg. If
 they can't give you the information, request a linux dmesg.

How would a Linux dmesg tell whether DragonFly would run on it?

Pierre

-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Aleutia

2012-07-28 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'm going to move to a house with standalone solar power, so I looked for 
low-power computers. I found aleutia.com. Do you think those boxes will have 
any problem wih DragonFly?

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.



Re: XFCE based LiveDVD/IMG

2012-07-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 25 July 2012 13:54:11 Tim Darby wrote:
 Unfortunately, it failed during boot on my Dell Studio 14z laptop (1440),
 so I think DF just doesn't like this hardware.  I did try booting without
 ACPI and AHCI, but no luck.  Lots of errors, but where it failed each time
 was at device xpt.  I can provide exact error messages, if you want.

Sounds like my laptop. The interrupt routing is hosed and it couldn't mount 
the root filesystem of the CD or thumb drive.

Pierre

-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


a couple of things I dislike about BSD

2012-07-22 Thread Pierre Abbat
1. When I run bc, I frequently edit the previous line and make a change:
15/56
.26785714285714285714
a(15/56)
.26171350240120506395
a(15/56)*45/a(1)
14.99507912917598589467
In Linux, I hit uparrow and edit the line. In DFBSD, I have to type the whole 
line again. This is, I'm sure, a license issue; the readline library in DFly 
is GNU readline. The bugs section says It’s too big and too slow, so why 
not write a BSD version that's smaller and faster?
(The calculation relates to the upper slope of my future house's roof.)

2. less in Linux saves the screen when it starts and restores it when it ends. 
In DFly it doesn't; it leaves a screenful of the file visible when it exits. 
This isn't that big a deal, except when I'm looking at my PIN or password 
file, which I do with less, not cat, so that it won't be left on my screen. 
Not that it really matters, since I'm alone, but to some people it may.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa



Re: DragonFly GUI desktop at work - not bad at all

2012-07-19 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday 19 July 2012 21:40:44 Stéphane Russell wrote:
 I finally got a PC to make myself a GUI workstation with DragonFly. I
 first tried Gnome, without success. There seem to be issues with GConf
 and HAL, and the console is not available to GDM. So I tried XDM along
 with a XFCE GUI and it worked with some average issues.

Looks good! I've been running KDE for over a year; the main problem I've had 
is that sometimes the binary packages weren't available.

Are you building a house? I'm going to be building a cabin fairly shortly, and 
a house next year. I'm doing the drawings in QCad on the DFly box (also 
LibreCad on the Ubuntu laptop, but it doesn't have a scrollwheel).

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera



Re: failure to mount cd when installing 64-bit

2012-06-28 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday 21 June 2012 23:12:40 Pierre Abbat wrote:
 I burned a CD of the latest 64-bit DragonFly and booted a 64-bit laptop
 with it. It started CPUs 0 through 7 and then issued the following
 messages:

 WARNING: waiting for the following device to finish configuring:
 xpt:  func=8027dd67 arg=0
 tryroot cd8
 no disk named 'cd8'
 setrootbyname failed
 iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
 Root mount failed: 6
 Mounting root from cd9660:cd9
 tryroot cd9
 no disk named 'cd9'
 setrootbyname failed
 iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
 Root mount failed: 6
 Mounting root from cd9660:/dev/cd0
 tryroot cd0
 setrootbyname failed
 iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
 Root mount failed: 6

 Manual root filesystem specification:
 [skip]
 mountroot?
 Possibly valid devices for root fs:
 md0 md0s0 mapper/control

 How do I make it work? It's an HP Pavilion with Intel i7 CPU.

On the advice of someone on IRC, I downloaded an image and wrote it to a thumb 
drive. I booted the thumb drive and got the same error, except that this time 
it was /dev/da8s1a that it couldn't find.

This is a 4 GB thumb drive; the GUI image is 3997171712 bytes, so I figured it 
should fit. But dd said at 3880452096 bytes that it reached the end of 
device. What gives? Still it should be able to mount the partition; darner 
has no trouble mounting it.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Re: donation : money : small amount : recurring

2012-06-27 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 27 June 2012 20:40:38 elekktrett...@exemail.com.au wrote:
  Even considering that a non-profit registration is necessary?

 Because majority of people, including me, consider donating for the
 specific reason of reducing personal taxes.

 I'd rather pay $100 to DragonFlyBSD than to Uncle Sam.

Matt, according to whois, is in California. I'm in North Carolina. Other 
DragonFliers are in Germany, Greece, Spain, UK, or possibly other countries. 
What do the laws of other countries say about donating to American 
non-profits?

Pierre

-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.



failure to mount cd when installing 64-bit

2012-06-21 Thread Pierre Abbat
I burned a CD of the latest 64-bit DragonFly and booted a 64-bit laptop with 
it. It started CPUs 0 through 7 and then issued the following messages:

WARNING: waiting for the following device to finish configuring:
xpt:  func=8027dd67 arg=0
tryroot cd8
no disk named 'cd8'
setrootbyname failed
iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from cd9660:cd9
tryroot cd9
no disk named 'cd9'
setrootbyname failed
iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from cd9660:/dev/cd0
tryroot cd0
setrootbyname failed
iso_mountroot: can't find rootvp
Root mount failed: 6

Manual root filesystem specification:
[skip]
mountroot?
Possibly valid devices for root fs:
md0 md0s0 mapper/control

How do I make it work? It's an HP Pavilion with Intel i7 CPU.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


crashed during bulk build

2012-06-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
The build got up to octave [4002/12503] and the computer crashed and dumped 
core. I think it's because I was trying to kill a process, of which there 
should be at most one because it's a cron job, of which there were eleven, 
and then ran pidof to see if any new ones had popped up. I will, as I said, 
try to figure out how to resume the build.

The disk fullness of that partition is 66%. The disk usage shouldn't be 
anywhere near that, but it might be. There was an orphaned process called 
lt-autogen, left over from one of the previously built packages, that was 
hogging the CPU. Once I figured out that its working directory was inside the 
build, but its parent was init, I killed it. It may have been writing a huge 
file, which I'll have to find and delete before trying to copy the entire 
build directory.

The next quarter starts in two weeks, so there isn't much point in me actually 
finishing this build. But I will make it possible for Justin, John, or anyone 
else to resume a build if the computer crashes for reasons unrelated to the 
build.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: bulk build

2012-06-09 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 19:47:07 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 Your computer crashed during the build too, possibly from the same issue.
 I don't think you are going to get any farther than I did.

I'm up to 2776, and 2485 was SDL_gfx as before, so I got farther than I did, 
and the crash was not caused by anything in the package being built. If it 
crashes again, I'll copy the build directory and try to figure out how to 
resume.

Pierre

-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko


64-bit laptop

2012-06-09 Thread Pierre Abbat
A friend gave me a laptop with a 4-core processor that looks like 8 because of 
hyperthreading and two 500 GB drives, but one of the drives is in storage, 
not in the laptop (he was experimenting with the drives before he put it away 
for some years). I'm thinking of installing dual-boot DragonFly 32-bit and 
DragonFly 64-bit, or dual-boot DragonFly and Linux. On my current DF box, 
besides the usual partitions and PFSes, I have the following:
/boot1, copy of /boot on the other disk
/crypt, encrypted filesystem
/olv, stuff that I can blow away when I'm finished with it (currently pbulk)
/backup, used for backing up files.
The Linux box also has /crypt, /olv, and /backup; stuff in /olv does not get 
backed up but stuff in /home and /crypt does, and then the backup is rsynced 
to the DragonFly box. How would you recommend partitioning the new laptop?

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do


Re: bulk build was: computer hung

2012-06-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 09:26:34 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 If you're having problems with a couple packages not rebuilding, the
 fix is not going to be building 12500 additional packages.  If there's
 specific packages you can't get to upgrade, looking at the errors for
 those exact items will do you a lot more good.

I've always upgraded with binary packages, except this once and while I was 
using Source Mage Linux several years ago. Binaries are built from the bottom 
up; pkg_rolling-replace can run into trouble when a package whose name has 
changed, and which it therefore doesn't know how to replace, depends on a 
package that conflicts with a new package that it's building. I had such 
trouble with the Python packages. The default python in 2012Q1 is 2.7; 
previously it was 2.6, and I had lots of build failures because of it. pkgin 
handles this pretty well, but pkg_rolling-replace doesn't.

If I run clean.sh -q, will that continue where it left off instead of 
rebuilding most of the already built packages?

Hopefully I'll have learned how to finish a bulk build by the time 2012Q2 is 
out.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: bulk build was: computer hung

2012-06-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 16:15:15 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 You're still going to end up building 12,500 packages.  The -q option
 just doesn't update the pkgsrc files, which makes the startup time a
 bit shorter.  You are going down the wrong path for what you want to
 do.

No I'm not. What I want to do is build all the packages, so that anyone who 
wants to upgrade can do so easily. What is the correct way to restart a bulk 
build where it left off? Who's going to build the packages for 2012Q2, since 
your computer has crashed?

 If you want to rebuild your python packages, write down the ones you
 have installed, remove the ones you have now, and reinstall.  You may
 be able to to do this with a few commands with pkg_chk.

I have no idea what they do; they must have been installed as dependencies of 
something else. I don't know why the default was switched to 2.7. I do know 
that upgrading with pkgin is easy and takes a few hours, while upgrading with 
pkg_rolling-replace takes weeks and is prone to failure, and the system is 
hosed, as far as running some programs is concerned, while it's upgrading.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


Re: bulk build

2012-06-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 16:59:53 Pierre Abbat wrote:
 What is the correct way to restart a bulk build where it left off?

I found this in the man page of pbulk-build:

It then writes suc-
 cessful builds to success and failing builds to error.  If either success
 or error exists at start-up, they are read and the build continues where
 they left off.

These files are in /olv/pbulk/bulklog/meta/. When I started the build, after a 
while it said something that it would wait five seconds and then delete 
something.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Re: bulk build was: computer hung

2012-06-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 07:47:07 PM Justin Sherrill wrote:
Your computer crashed during the build too, possibly from the same issue.  I 
don't think you are going to get any farther than I did.

Ah. I understood that you had a failure such as a head crash or a burned-out 
motherboard that made it unusable. If it crashed from a random event, not 
from a bug in the compiler triggered by a particular package, it should be 
possible to restart the build. There is a way to restart pbulk-build and have 
it continue where it left off; it shouldn't be too hard to implement it in 
simplepbulk.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa



computer hung for no obvious reason

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Abbat
[2485/12503] Successfully built SDL_gfx-2.0.23
[2486/12503] Starting build of  qt4-sqlite3-4.8.0nb2
Read from remote host darner: Connection reset by peer
Connection to darner closed.

I was browsing a website and I clicked on a link and the computer froze and 
wouldn't even respond to hitting the power button (which normally starts a 
shutdown). I'm reblocking before restarting the build, as hammer has been 
running over a day on that filesystem and it got up to 29% full.

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: scroll wheel doesn't work

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 28 May 2012 22:29:41 Pierre Abbat wrote:
 It works now! I touched the wheel while looking at a website and it
 scrolled. I guess recompiling X fixed it.

When I rebooted, the scroll wheel stopped working. Any suggestions?

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera


Re: scroll wheel doesn't work

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 04 June 2012 13:13:42 Edward M wrote:
 On 06/04/2012 07:02 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
  Any suggestions?

  maybe connetor is loose from the computer. try reconnecting it.

The mouse works, and the scroll wheel works in Windows. Scroll wheel data are 
sent serially on the same line as mouse movement data. It's a software 
problem.

Pierre

-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: computer hung for no obvious reason

2012-06-04 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 04 June 2012 09:38:23 Pierre Abbat wrote:
 [2485/12503] Successfully built SDL_gfx-2.0.23
 [2486/12503] Starting build of  qt4-sqlite3-4.8.0nb2
 Read from remote host darner: Connection reset by peer
 Connection to darner closed.

.. 10550/10590
 10590/10590
Resolving...
Global dependency resolution failed, check /bulklog/meta/presolve-err.log for 
details
Building...
Initialisation complete.
[436/12503] Starting build of  digest-2004
[436/12503] Successfully built digest-2004
[437/12503] Starting build of  f2c-20100903
[437/12503] Successfully built f2c-20100903
[438/12503] Starting build of  libtool-base-2.2.6bnb6

Is this ever going to finish? Rolling-replace didn't work; I still don't have 
a working kmail on DF, and am still using the old konqueror. I've been 
running this build for at least three weeks, and every time I have to restart 
it it goes back to some already built package.

Pierre
-- 
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.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


the partition I'm doing the bulk build on

2012-06-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
# du -s *
7   COPYRIGHT
0   IN_CHROOT
10037   bin
839 boot
1   build.sh
51972   bulklog
0   compat
0   dev
2782472 distfiles
9477etc
0   home
0   media
0   mnt
2059650 packages
0   proc
1   root
35711   sbin
3   settings.conf
0   sys
0   tmp
du: usr/pkg/libexec: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/sbin: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/lib: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/bin: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/etc: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/info: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/man: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/share: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg/include: No such file or directory
du: usr/pkg: No such file or directory
711245  usr
26198   var
167870  wrkobjdir

# df .
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/crypt/pfs/@@-1:1 453435392 117572512 33586288026%/olv

/olv has no snapshots. Why is so much more space used than in files?

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: the partition I'm doing the bulk build on

2012-06-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday 01 June 2012 15:08:51 Sascha Wildner wrote:
 What did you do to have no snapshots on /olv?

 If you turned off the nightly cleanup then it has probably accumulated
 fine grained history.

-bash-4.2$ hammer config /olv
snapshots 0d 0d
prune 1d 5m
rebalance 1d 5m
dedup 1d 5m
reblock   1d 5m
recopy29d 10m

Before I started the bulk build, it finished hammer in less than an hour. It 
now takes half a day or more. I just ran ps and got this:

-bash-4.2$ ps waux|grep hammer
phma71667 40.0  0.1   4144   1224  0  DLM+5:02PM   0:00.05 grep hammer
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM   1:19.40  
(hammer-S0)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM   1:17.04  
(hammer-S2)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM  15:10.97  
(hammer-S0)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM  15:13.26  
(hammer-S2)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM   2:42.42  (hammer-M)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM   2:09.76  
(hammer-S1)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM   2:09.95  
(hammer-S3)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM  37:42.95  (hammer-M)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM  16:38.14  
(hammer-S1)
root   -1  0.0  0.0  0  0 ??  BLMFri09PM  16:51.96  
(hammer-S3)
root38834  0.0  0.0   2252124 ??  ILM 1:02AM   
0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/periodic/daily/160.clean-hammer
root38836  0.0  0.0   1160 20 ??  ILM 1:02AM   0:00.55 hammer 
cleanup
root79725  0.0  7.9 190584  81384 ??  DLM 1:45AM  11:17.88 hammer -t 
300 dedup /olv

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: scroll wheel doesn't work

2012-05-28 Thread Pierre Abbat
It works now! I touched the wheel while looking at a website and it scrolled. 
I guess recompiling X fixed it.

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: computer got hung while doing bulk build

2012-05-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday 24 May 2012 14:58:32 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 If you're using my simplepbulk script, run clean.sh again without the
 -a qualifier, and it'll rescan and restart with only  unbuilt
 packages.

 Also, this will possibly happen again.  I've had trouble getting
 builds to finish due to bug 2296, I think it is.

It resumed, but not where it left off:

.. 10500/10590
.. 10550/10590
 10590/10590
Resolving...
Global dependency resolution failed, check /bulklog/meta/presolve-err.log for 
details
Building...
Initialisation complete.
[436/12503] Starting build of  digest-2004
[436/12503] Successfully built digest-2004
[437/12503] Starting build of  f2c-20100903
[437/12503] Successfully built f2c-20100903

Pierre
-- 
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computer got hung while doing bulk build

2012-05-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
I brought up Firefox (I had been doing it on the laptop, but I took it out 
last night and will take it out tonight) and Gimp on darner. Also hammer has 
been running over 13 hours, which is highly unusual; usually it takes 20 or 
40 minutes. I have over 70 GB on the disk that holds the bulk build. The 
computer hung. On the window that's showing the bulk build, I see this:

[1736/12501] Starting build of  tex-pst-3dplot-1.94
[1736/12501] Failed to buildtex-pst-3dplot-1.94
[1752/12501] Starting build of  farsight2-0.0.26nb6
Read from remote host darner: Connection reset by peer
Connection to darner closed.

I have to reboot darner. How do I resume the bulk build?

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.



network routing malfunction

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Abbat
I have a VPN; sometimes it doesn't work properly.

chausie is the Linux box, which runs the VPN; it has eth0 and ppp0. darner is 
the DragonFly box; it has em0. linksys is a router; chausie's eth0 and 
darner's em0 are connected to the LAN side. sco is behind NAT on the other 
end of the VPN.

I woke up and finished a drawing and had to copy it to sco. My telnet session 
to sco had broken during the night. (sco doesn't have ssh; I telnet over the 
VPN.) I checked the VPN and found it had dropped, so I restarted it. I tried 
telnetting and failed. I tried pinging and succeeded, but running tcpdump on 
chausie showed that packets were not going through chausie. I ran route 
show and traceroute sco on darner and then packets started going through 
chausie and I logged in to sco. How come?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Abbat
Just passed 10%, though the big ones qt4 and kdelibs4 are already built.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: network routing malfunction

2012-05-23 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 23 May 2012 10:08:48 Nuno Antunes wrote:
 Are you saying that ping was working even if you didn't see the
 packets going through chausie?

 Which route is darner using to reach sco? Did it change before and
 after the traceroute?

The default route is through linksys, the route to sco is through chausie, but 
when I type route show, I get lots of routes for active 
connections. route on Linux just shows the routing table.

There is a computer nearby that responds to sco's address when I ping it and 
the VPN is down. The VPN is 192.168.100, and 100 appears to be a commonly 
used network, as the cable modem answers 100.1 when its WAN side is 
disconnected. However, traceroute showed packets going through chausie. I 
think that the act of showing the route caused it to work properly.

There is a Windows box on the network; the tcpdump showed NetBIOS packets 
going to sco and being rejected. sco runs Samba, and the Windows box needs to 
read from it at certain steps of drawing.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.



Re: DragonFly pkgsrc policy for packages without freely or generally available sources

2012-05-19 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Saturday 19 May 2012 12:00:31 John Marino wrote:
 On 5/19/2012 15:08, Venkatesh Srinivas wrote:
  Just for reference, can you point of some/all of these packages?
 
  Thanks!
  -- vs;
  http://ops101.org/4k/

 Hi Venkatesh,

 The following eight packages were masked:

 net/skype1

There's also a skype21 package. Is that available for DragonFly?

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-18 Thread Pierre Abbat
Packages for i386 are building. It's about 4% done, by number of packages, 
though qt4 and maybe some packages that depend on it will take a day or more.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


Re: pkgsrc2012Q1-firefox build fails(finished)

2012-05-11 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday 06 May 2012 00:02:25 Edward wrote:
 Thanks everyone for the support

Exhausted after 15 hrs of compiling, pkg_delete and
 pkg_rolling-replace, finally finished.
last message reads: no more packages to replace; done  Hope my apps
 will run and everything is sync. 8-)

Only 15 hours? My box has taken 22.5 hours so far just on Qt, and several days 
to rebuild everything.

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday, May 06, 2012 21:10:24 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 pkgtools/pbulk will build everything, upload it, and produce a report.
  There's very little documentation, though.  I think you can also
 'bmake package' for individual items and it will create packages in
 /usr/pkgsrc/packages.

I installed pbulk and am looking at the conf file. It looks like I need to 
change these:
base_url should end in 3.1.
master_mode should be off; I have only one DragonFly box.
bulklog should be /var/log/bulklog ?
packages is where the completed packages are stored? If so, it should be 
/olv/packages .

I have a few entries in mk.conf to allow certain licenses and build Firefox 
with the official branding. These should not be enabled when building packages 
for public consumption. Do I have to rename mk.conf when building packages?

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
I ran into another snag:

gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/obj/pkgsrc/devel/orc/work/orc-0.4.16/tools'
Making all in examples
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/obj/pkgsrc/devel/orc/work/orc-0.4.16/examples'
../tools/orcc --implementation -o example1orc.c ./example1orc.orc
../tools/orcc --header -o example1orc.h ./example1orc.orc
../tools/orcc --implementation -o example2orc.c ./example2orc.orc
../tools/orcc --header -o example2orc.h ./example2orc.orc
../tools/orcc --implementation -o example3orc.c ./example3orc.orc
../tools/orcc --header -o example3orc.h ./example3orc.orc
gmake[2]: *** [example3orc.h] Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)
gmake[2]: *** Deleting file `example3orc.h'
gmake[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
gmake[2]: *** [example3orc.c] Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped)
gmake[2]: *** Deleting file `example3orc.c'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/obj/pkgsrc/devel/orc/work/orc-0.4.16/examples'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/obj/pkgsrc/devel/orc/work/orc-0.4.16'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop.
bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/devel/orc
*** Error code 1

Stop.
bmake: stopped in /usr/pkgsrc/devel/orc
*** 'make replace' failed for package orc.
*** Please read the errors listed above, fix the problem,
*** then re-run pkg_rolling-replace to continue.

orc is required by gst-plugins0.10-base, which is required by swfdec, which 
isn't required by anything. I'm going to remove it and see what happens.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


Re: pkgsrc2012Q1-firefox build fails

2012-05-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday, May 07, 2012 14:50:31 Matthias Rampke wrote:
 I think you can, if pressed on time and this happens a lot for a particular
 .so, just create the symlink, let pkg_rolling-replace run through, then
 delete it.

pkg_rolling-replace stopped at glib2, which is a big package, saying that 
libpcre.so.0 was missing. I also couldn't get Konqueror to format a webpage as 
HTML, citing the same reason. I copied the so file from a snapshot. Only on 
DragonFly :)

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-07 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday, May 07, 2012 08:56:29 Pierre Abbat wrote:
 orc is required by gst-plugins0.10-base, which is required by swfdec, which
 isn't required by anything. I'm going to remove it and see what happens.

orc turned out to be required by a bunch of KDE programs.

=== Building for coreutils-8.13
/usr/pkg/bin/bmake  all-recursive
Making all in lib
/usr/pkg/bin/bmake  all-recursive
Making all in src
/usr/pkg/bin/bmake  all-am
  CCLD who
  CCLD users
  CCLD uptime
  CCLD stty
  CCLD stdbuf
  CCLD sort
sort.o: In function `sortlines':
sort.c:(.text+0x35bb): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
*** Error code 1

I'm continuing without upgrading orc or coreutils.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-06 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 22:02:18 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 My preferred method, when binary packages aren't available, is to
 update /usr/pkgsrc to the appropriate release and then use
 pkg_rolling-replace to upgrade the packages I use.  It'll take a
 little bit to build programs, but the amount of actual downtime will
 be minimal.  You can say, upgrade everything using that, though it's
 more manageable if you tackle it major app by major app, in my
 opinion.  You certainly have enough space to update.

What do you count as downtime? When it's in the middle of rebuilding kde, and 
I want to use kde, I consider kde down. I've been in that situation with 
Source Mage, and I got kwrite windows with the toolbar icons totally mixed up.

I'm running pkg_check before starting to rebuild, and I got this:

WARNING: No graphics/kdegraphics4/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No misc/kdeutils4/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No mail/postfix-current/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No x11/kdebase-runtime4/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No x11/kdebase-workspace4/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No x11/kdebase4/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?
WARNING: No x11/kdebindings4-python/Makefile - package moved or obsolete?

The kde packages are still in wip (which I just updated); there is a 
mail/postfix.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-06 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday, May 06, 2012 13:17:39 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 When packages get name changes, there's no automated way to
 transition.  I assume what happened is postfix-current became postfix
 and some of the KDE packages were renamed.  Looking at the kde4
 meta-package, I don't see any of those listed as dependencies.

kde4 doesn't depend on kdebase4?!

Also how can I set up my computer to build packages for others to use?

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-06 Thread Pierre Abbat
I ran into a snag. I ran pkg_rolling-replace -u -D MAKE_JOBS=3 a few times. I 
ran into a backup program with a license it didn't like; since I'm not using 
it, I removed it. Then I ran into this:

rr x11/xfontsel - xfontsel-1.0.2nb1  xfontsel-1.0.2nb2
rr x11/xlogo - xlogo-1.0.2  xlogo-1.0.2nb1
rr x11/xscreensaver - xscreensaver-5.14  xscreensaver-5.15
rr x11/xterm - xterm-259  xterm-259nb2
rr x11/zenity - zenity-2.32.1nb2  zenity-2.32.1nb5
*** Unable to read PKGCHK_CONF '/usr/pkgsrc/pkgchk_update-
darner.ixazon.lan.conf'
RR Excluding the following mismatched packages:
rr EXCLUDE=[]
RR Checking for rebuild-requested installed packages (rebuild=YES)
RR Checking for unsafe installed packages (unsafe_depends=YES)
RR Building dependency graph for installed packages
RR Tsorting dependency graph
RR Selecting autoconf (devel/autoconf) as next package to replace
RR Checking if autoconf has new depends...
RR autoconf has the following new depends (need to re-tsort):
rr [help2man]
RR Tsorting dependency graph
RR Selecting py26-asn1 (security/py-asn1) as next package to replace
RR Checking if py26-asn1 has new depends...
RR py26-asn1 has the following new depends (need to re-tsort):
rr [py27-setuptools python27]
RR Tsorting dependency graph
pkg_info: can't find package `py27-setuptools'
*** Couldn't extract PKGPATH from installed package py27-setuptools
*** Please read the errors listed above, fix the problem,
*** then re-run pkg_rolling-replace to continue.

There are lots of packages with py27 in their names in pkgin, but none is 
installed. In pkgsrc 2012Q1, there's only one package with a name containing 
py27: lang/py27-html-docs. py27-setuptools is present in pkgin, but not 
installed. How do I fix the problem?

Pierre
-- 
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Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-02 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 21:06:14 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 Are you asking about doing a full bulk build of all the packages, or
 adding/upgrading packages on your system?

Both. I'd like to upgrade the packages on my system, but I don't want a long 
time when the packages installed are partly old and partly new because it's 
still compiling them.

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 09:30:50 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Justin Sherrill
 
 jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote:
 I'd advise building from source instead of waiting for binaries at
 this point for 2012Q1.

How long does it take to build from source, and how much disk space does it 
take?

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-05-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 15:26:04 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu wrote:
 If everything goes well, maybe a week and 50G, though I haven't
 tracked disk usage over the whole history of the build.
 
 It never goes well.  Disks fill from hammer history, packages hang
 during build, machines crash, etc.  Yeah, I'm whining.

I have two disks, one with 21 GB free and one with 440 GB free. /usr/obj and 
/usr/pkgsrc are on the small disk. How do I build the packages?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


How do I tell what process is hogging the disk?

2012-05-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
Something just rattled the disk for several minutes in a row. I don't know 
what it was. I have some cron jobs, but those don't take more than a few 
seconds, except the nightly hammer run, and I know when that is. I ended up 
killing the process taking up the most memory, which turned out to be a 
Konqueror window where I was shopping for some solar stuff. I tried with top 
and systat to figure out the culprit, but did not succeed.

Pierre
-- 
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li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


test

2012-05-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
I got a reply in my inbox with a copy sent to the list, but I don't have the 
copy sent to the list yet.

Pierre
-- 
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binary packages for 2012Q1

2012-04-30 Thread Pierre Abbat
Do you know when the packages for 2012Q1 will be available?

Pierre
-- 
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Re: specifying -s flag for openntpd in rc.conf does not work

2012-04-04 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, April 04, 2012 15:57:34 David Crosswell wrote:
 Get a better client.
 This was sent with the 'Reply List' feature in Ice-Dove.
 This app. may not be available in DFly, but there must be others.
 Regards,

I use Kmail, which also has Reply to List. It has been available off and on in 
DFly (along with the rest of KDE4).

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.


Re: Removing 2.6 packages, switching to pkgsrc-2012Q1 packages

2012-03-29 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 22:39:22 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 The people this would inconvenience is anyone upgrading from 3.0.1 or
 3.0.2 to 3.0.3; your binary package target would change to a newer
 release, so you would end up needing to upgrade your pkgsrc software,
 if you're installing with binary packages.   If you only build pkgsrc
 software from source, you can move to 2012Q1 at your leisure.

Are you saying that there's a new version of pkg_radd or pkgin, and the old 
version won't handle new packages?

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


Re: Anyone know how to get bitcoin to compile?

2012-03-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 21:33:33 Venkatesh Srinivas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 bitcoind works fine on DragonFly; you just need to modify
 makefile.unix appropriately; I'll post an updated makefile in a day or
 so. Basically, you need to set the pkgsrc paths correctly and modify a
 few small things wrt library names.

Did you find it? Can you get the Bitcoin people to include it in the tree?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Anyone know how to get bitcoin to compile?

2012-03-20 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'd like to run bitcoin. I have a Linux laptop with a working bitcoin install, 
but I'd rather not keep my main wallet on my laptop, so I'd like to run 
bitcoin on my DFly desktop. So I gitted it from 
git://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.git and tried to compile. I got two 
completely different errors, both related to where packages install files.

The bitcoind program uses boost, and the makefile couldn't find it. Instead of 
CMakeLists.txt or a configure script, there's a makefile.unix which is supposed 
to work for all Unices, but doesn't. The include files are in 
/usr/pkg/include/boost/, and the makefile doesn't know to look in /usr/pkg/.

The GUI program uses Qt (a welcome change from the first version I tried to 
install, which used a future version of some GUI library that I had to 
install, and couldn't get right). I had to add /usr/pkg/qt4/bin to the path to 
get qmake to run, and it failed to find QMainWindow and other include files.

I asked on the IRC channel #bitcoin-dev and was denigrated for running an 
obscure operating system and not knowing how to get things to run on it. I 
know how to make my own programs run on it, but I don't have any GUI projects. 
I used to use autotools (in KDevelop) and now use CMake; I don't write 
makefiles and expect them to run on other systems, except for POV-Ray projects 
or Forth programs or things like that.

Could someone who knows how to port GUI programs talk with the Bitcoin people 
and figure this out? The short-term solution would be to write a 
makefile.pkgsrc 
that works on NetBSD and DragonFly. The best long-term solution, I think, 
would be to convert the whole build process to CMake. I've compiled Vidalia, 
which is a CMake and Qt project, on DragonFly with no problem.

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


Re: scroll wheel doesn't work

2012-03-14 Thread Pierre Abbat
Here's my latest try: I ran man psm and found that there are three 
operation levels which return different formats. In level 0, the mouse driver 
does not return scroll wheel information; in level 1, it does. There does not 
appear to be a command to change the operation level. I'm going to write one.

I turned off moused and ran dd if=/dev/psm0 of=./mousetest. I got dd: 
/dev/psm0: Resource temporarily unavailable. I tried cat; same problem. I was 
intending to read the output to determine what format the mouse is using.

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


Re: scroll wheel doesn't work

2012-03-14 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 15:19:16 Chris Turner wrote:
 This is probably overkill. Also, moused has an '-l' flag for this
 
 For reference - alot of the mouse documentation is somewhat 'cruft'
 from the MS/DOS PC-AT era and various nonstandard serial port drivers -
 for the most part things just 'work' for 'modern' (e.g. Pentium+/win95+
 era) ps2/USB mice in my experience.
 
 However, some KVM's do 'interesting' things with port data, so you'll
 probably want to post a dmesg to see if anything obvious stands out,
 and try running from the console with -f and -d flags will probably
 be of use here as well - for example - a test session for me
 shows 'Z' axix activity in the 'dz' field here:
 
 $ grep 'dz.*1' /tmp/mouse-log
 moused: activity : buttons 0x  dx 0  dy 0  dz -1
 moused: activity : buttons 0x  dx 0  dy 0  dz 1

I ran it in debug mode and saw no activity at all when I turned the wheel. 
Varying the level, I got three-byte packets at levels 0 and 2 and eight-byte 
packets padded with zeros at level 1.

 I misadvised earlier in this thread r.e. the '-z' flag and apologize -
 at the time I was not using moused  have switched back for testing here -
 
 my setup (moused, ps2 mouse, scroll OK) is as follows:
 
 $ dmesg |egrep '(psm|ums)'
 psm0: current command byte:0065
 psm0.atkbdc0.acpi0.nexus0.root0
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse [tentative] irq 12 on atkbdc0
 psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4-00, 5 buttons
 psm0: config:, flags:0008, packet size:4
 psm0: syncmask:08, syncbits:00
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse [attached!] irq 12 on atkbdc0

I got just this:
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0

The mouse is a Compaq MO42KC.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


something's wrong with bugs' certificate

2012-03-14 Thread Pierre Abbat
I get The root certificate authority's certificate is not trusted for this 
purpose. Is anyone else getting this?

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.


Re: something's wrong with bugs' certificate

2012-03-14 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 16:42:58 Antonio Huete Jiménez wrote:
 Hi Pierre,
 
 Certificate for https://bugs.dragonflybsd.org was obtained in
 https://www.startssl.com/. They were tested against Opera 11, Firefox 10,
 Chrome and IExplore 8-9 without issues.
 Also, they (StartSSL) claim they got support on most known browsers.
 What's your browser?

I'm running Konqueror, and I think this problem started less than a week ago. 
The site was coming up fine before. I tried another site, https://safe-
mail.net, and it came up fine.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


system rebooted for no apparent reason

2012-03-10 Thread Pierre Abbat
I tried to send a signed message in Kmail, which hung. I looked at top and 
found some curses program was trying to read the password. Instead of killing 
it, I tried to look at virtual console 1. I saw F1 DF/BSD and the computer 
proceeded to reboot. There was no kernel dump. How do I figure out what 
happened so that I can file a bug report?

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


gpg-agent was Re: system rebooted for no apparent reason

2012-03-10 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Saturday, March 10, 2012 16:20:44 Chris Turner wrote:
 However - if your signing setup in any way involves 3.0+ and a
 gpg-agent running as root - you might want to update from source
 to latest master-or-3.0 patch branch before digging since there
 are known issues with gpg-agent running as root that have
 been fixed.

There's no gpg-agent running.

 Also - if your KMail was running pinentry-curses - you might
 want to change that to one of the graphical password prompts
 to see if that changes things..
 
 See also:
 
 http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/gnupg-kmail.php
 
 which should fairly similar and discusses this.

I installed pinentry-qt4 and added the lines to the conf files, but I'm not 
sure what to do about X. The instructions assume that I start KDE by logging 
into the console and typing startx. I use kdm, and I'd like it to work 
whether I log into KDE (my usual) or XFCE (something doesn't work, but it's 
probably fixed in the new quarterly). Where do I put the gpg-agent command?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


load average

2012-03-08 Thread Pierre Abbat
I just rebooted ('cause I recompiled the kernel the other day) and restarted 
KDE. When I do this on DFly and run top, the load average is about 1.5. When I 
do it on Linux, the load average shoots up to 11 or 20 or higher. In both 
OSes, the computer is slow to respond and makes lots of disk noises. I think 
what's happening is, processes that are waiting for the disk are counted as 
running in Linux but not in DFly. Is there a way to tell how busy the system 
is that includes disk usage?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Raspberry Pi

2012-03-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
How hard would it be to port DragonFly to the ARM and run it on a Raspberry 
Pi?

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji


What's _slaballoc?

2012-03-05 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'm profiling a program so that I can optimize it and hopefully get it to run 
in real time. Here's 
the profile of the program running under Linux:

Flat profile:

Each sample counts as 0.01 seconds.
  %   cumulative   self  self total   
 time   seconds   secondscalls   s/call   s/call  name
 65.94  7.59 7.59   613648 0.00 0.00  tonegenerator::fwaves(int)
 11.29  8.89 1.30   613648 0.00 0.00  
__gnu_cxx::__enable_ifstd::__is_scalarfloat::__value, float*::__type 
std::__fill_n_afloat*, 
unsigned int, float(float*, unsigned int, float const)
  5.39  9.51 0.62 168385808 0.00 0.00  std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 
::operator[](unsigned int)
  2.78  9.83 0.32   991456 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble const, 
errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  
::_M_lower_bound(std::_Rb_tree_nodestd::pairdouble const, errec  const*, 
std::_Rb_tree_nodestd::pairdouble const, errec  const*, double const) const
  2.17 10.08 0.25 15606822 0.00 0.00  
std::lessdouble::operator()(double const, 
double const) const
  1.26 10.22 0.14   613648 0.00 0.00  mastertimer::skip()
  1.04 10.35 0.12 14558791 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble 
const, errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , 
std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  
::_S_key(std::_Rb_tree_nodestd::pairdouble const, errec  const*)
  0.87 10.45 0.10 main
  0.52 10.51 0.06   613648 0.00 0.00  tonegenerator::unfwave()
  0.48 10.56 0.06  8000250 0.00 0.00  
std::_Rb_tree_iteratorstd::pairdouble 
const, errec ::operator-() const
  0.43 10.61 0.05   999513 0.00 0.00  std::mapdouble, errec, 
std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  ::end()
  0.43 10.66 0.05   991456 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble const, 
errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  ::find(double const) const
  0.43 10.71 0.05   205449 0.00 0.00  downspike()
  0.35 10.75 0.04  1227298 0.00 0.00  std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 
::~vector()
  0.35 10.79 0.04   613648 0.00 0.00  std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 
::vector(std::vectorfloat, std::allocatorfloat  const)
  0.30 10.82 0.04  1840944 0.00 0.00  parity(unsigned int)
  0.26 10.86 0.03 14558791 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble 
const, errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , 
std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  
::_S_value(std::_Rb_tree_nodestd::pairdouble const, errec  const*)
  0.26 10.88 0.03  2011200 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble const, 
errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  ::end() const
  0.26 10.91 0.03  1970656 0.00 0.00  
std::_Rb_tree_iteratorstd::pairdouble 
const, errec ::operator!=(std::_Rb_tree_iteratorstd::pairdouble const, 
errec  const) 
const
  0.26 10.95 0.03  1524715 0.00 0.00  float* 
std::__copy_movefalse, true, 
std::random_access_iterator_tag::__copy_mfloat(float const*, float const*, 
float*)
  0.26 10.97 0.03   613648 0.00 0.00  std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 
::operator=(std::vectorfloat, std::allocatorfloat  const)
  0.26 11.01 0.0322128 0.00 0.00  compdiv(double)
  0.22 11.03 0.03  7046596 0.00 0.00  std::_Rb_treedouble, 
std::pairdouble const, 
errec, std::_Select1ststd::pairdouble const, errec , std::lessdouble, 
std::allocatorstd::pairdouble const, errec  
::_S_left(std::_Rb_tree_node_base const*)
  0.22 11.05 0.03  5504021 0.00 0.00  std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 
::size() const
  0.17 11.07 0.02  8056834 0.00 0.00  std::pairdouble const, 
errec* 
std::__addressofstd::pairdouble const, errec (std::pairdouble const, 
errec)
  0.17 11.10 0.02  1859754 0.00 0.00  
__gnu_cxx::__normal_iteratorfloat const*, 
std::vectorfloat, std::allocatorfloat  ::base() const
  0.17 11.12 0.02  1859754 0.00 0.00  
std::_Niter_base__gnu_cxx::__normal_iteratorfloat const*, std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat   ::iterator_type 
std::__niter_base__gnu_cxx::__normal_iteratorfloat const*, std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat   (__gnu_cxx::__normal_iteratorfloat const*, 
std::vectorfloat, 
std::allocatorfloat  )
  0.17 11.13 0.02  1048032 0.00 0.00  std::vectordouble, 
std::allocatordouble 
::operator[](unsigned int)
  0.17 11.15 0.02   613648 0.00 0.00  std::_Vector_basefloat, 
std::allocatorfloat 

dircolors

2012-02-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
Do you know where to get the dircolors program? I copied my bashrc from my 
Linux box and it has this code:


# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ $TERM != dumb ]; then
#eval `dircolors -b`
alias ls='ls -G'
#alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
#alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
fi

I tried copying the dircolors binary, but it complained about a library 
version.

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do


Where is -lm_p?

2012-02-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
I'm working on a program and I want to see how much time it's spending in each 
function. So I edit the CMakeCache and add the -pg flag:

//Flags used by the compiler during debug builds.
CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_DEBUG:STRING=-ggdb -pg

I then run cmake and make and get this:

[ 50%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/tone12.dir/midi.o
[ 75%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/tone12.dir/riffwave.o 
  
[100%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/tone12.dir/tonegen.o  
  
Linking CXX executable tone12   
  
/usr/libexec/binutils222/elf/ld: cannot find -lm_p  
  
*** Error code 1

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci


crash - should I upload the dump?

2012-02-20 Thread Pierre Abbat
I was copying something from a webpage to a document in Kate and the computer 
froze, then showed me the console saying that X could not be restarted. I 
killed kdm and logged in again. While all the windows were coming up, the 
computer turned itself off. I rebooted and found a dump numbered 12. Here are 
the tracebacks and some other info:

Version String: DragonFly v3.1.0.114.g7fba7-DEVELOPMENT #4: Sun Feb 5 15:33:37 
EST 2012 p...@darner.ixazon.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

panic: device_unbusy: called for non-busy device
Trace beginning at frame 0xcc956954
panic(,0,c06daaa4,cc956988,cc971160) at panic+0x19e 0xc0383933 
panic(c06daaa4,0,cc9569ac,c04c79b1,c2e85528) at panic+0x19e 0xc0383933 
device_unbusy(c2e85528,0,cc9712ac,cdd3aee0,cdd3aee0) at device_unbusy+0x1c 
0xc039f82f 
agp_close(cc9569b8,c08a5bf0,cdd3aee0,6,2000) at agp_close+0xb3 0xc04c79b1 
dev_dclose(cdd3aee0,6,2000,ccb9d660,d087f7b8) at dev_dclose+0x4b 0xc0366d17 
devfs_spec_close(cc9569fc,c08b3b78,d08c4be0,d087f7b8,0) at 
devfs_spec_close+0x14d 0xc0545be0 
vop_close(d08c4be0,d087f7b8,6,0,c0c789c0) at vop_close+0x7c 0xc03fb381 
vclean_vxlocked(d087f7b8,8,c0c789c0,c0d0f600,cc956b90) at vclean_vxlocked+0xf2 
0xc03ead71 
vgone_vxlocked(d087f7b8,c0c78a00,a00,cc97127c,cc956ba4) at 
vgone_vxlocked+0x50 0xc03eaf63 
vflush_scan(d08ae660,d087f7b8,cc956b90,c03fa6e4,cc956b50) at vflush_scan+0x98 
0xc03edc8d 
vmntvnodescan(d08ae660,2,0,c03edbf5,cc956b90) at vmntvnodescan+0x1af 
0xc03ede6f 
vflush(d08ae660,0,2,d08ae660,0) at vflush+0x181 0xc03ee0e6 
devfs_vfs_unmount(d08ae660,8,d08ae660,0,d08ae684) at 
devfs_vfs_unmount+0x46 0xc0546fc2 
vfs_unmount(d08ae660,8,14,1000,0) at vfs_unmount+0x68 0xc03fbda1 
dounmount(d08ae660,8,d08ae660,1,cc956c60) at dounmount+0x220 0xc03f6e00 
vfs_umountall_callback(d08ae660,0,4,0,c0c78c78) at vfs_umountall_callback+0x1f 
0xc03e9142 
mountlist_scan(c03e9123,0,6,cc956ca4,c03835d8) at mountlist_scan+0x119 
0xc03ee4fa 
vfs_unmountall(c06af5e0,0,c037c5c4,ccad2498,4000) at vfs_unmountall+0x22 
0xc03e860b 
boot(0,8,cc956d34,c065ebcc,cc956cf0) at boot+0x2d6 0xc03835d8 
sys_reboot(cc956cf0,cc956d00,4,0,0) at sys_reboot+0x3f 0xc0383c73 
syscall2(cc956d40) at syscall2+0x270 0xc065ebcc 
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x36 0xc062dc16 

(kgdb) #0  _get_mycpu () at ./machine/thread.h:79
#1  md_dumpsys (di=0xc0c02820) at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/dump_machdep.c:264
#2  0xc03830e8 in dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:925
#3  0xc03836fe in boot (howto=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:387
#4  0xc0383967 in panic (fmt=0xc06daaa4 device_unbusy: called for non-busy 
device) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:831
#5  0xc039f82f in device_unbusy (dev=0xc2e85528) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1513
#6  0xc04c79b1 in agp_close (ap=0xcc9569b8) at /usr/src/sys/dev/agp/agp.c:800
#7  0xc0366d17 in dev_dclose (dev=0xcdd3aee0, fflag=6, devtype=8192) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_device.c:168
#8  0xc0545be0 in devfs_spec_close (ap=0xcc9569fc) at 
/usr/src/sys/vfs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:1081
#9  0xc03fb381 in vop_close (ops=0xd08c4be0, vp=0xd087f7b8, fflag=6) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_vopops.c:310
#10 0xc03ead71 in vclean_vxlocked (vp=0xd087f7b8, flags=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1216
#11 0xc03eaf63 in vgone_vxlocked (vp=0xd087f7b8) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1424
#12 0xc03edc8d in vflush_scan (mp=0xd08ae660, vp=0xd087f7b8, data=0xcc956b90) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1266
#13 0xc03ede6f in vmntvnodescan (mp=0xd08ae660, flags=optimized out, 
fastfunc=0, slowfunc=0xc03edbf5 vflush_scan, data=0xcc956b90) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1081
#14 0xc03ee0e6 in vflush (mp=0xd08ae660, rootrefs=0, flags=2) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1198
#15 0xc0546fc2 in devfs_vfs_unmount (mp=0xd08ae660, mntflags=524288) at 
/usr/src/sys/vfs/devfs/devfs_vfsops.c:145
#16 0xc03fbda1 in vfs_unmount (mp=0xd08ae660, mntflags=524288) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_vfsops.c:137
#17 0xc03f6e00 in dounmount (mp=0xd08ae660, flags=524288) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:757
#18 0xc03e9142 in vfs_umountall_callback (mp=0xd08ae660, data=0x0) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1801
#19 0xc03ee4fa in mountlist_scan (callback=0xc03e9123 
vfs_umountall_callback, data=0x0, how=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:905
#20 0xc03e860b in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1790
#21 0xc03835d8 in boot (howto=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:375
#22 0xc0383c73 in sys_reboot (uap=0xcc956cf0) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:202
#23 0xc065ebcc in syscall2 (frame=0xcc956d40) at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/trap.c:1328
#24 0xc062dc16 in Xint0x80_syscall () at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/exception.s:878
#25 0x001f in ?? ()
Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

Pierre
-- 
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Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.


Re: 3.0 release this weekend

2012-02-17 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday, February 17, 2012 00:38:41 Samuel J. Greear wrote:
  I don't know if it [KDE] installed completely in 2.10, come to think of
  it.
 
 The KDE versions in pkgsrc are grossly out of date. Users should actually
 have better luck compiling newer KDE version by hand from the KDE repo's
 directly, because of work Alex H. did getting DragonFly patches into
 upstream.

I'm running KDE 4.5.5 from 2011Q3. I couldn't get a complete KDE in 2011Q2, 
IIRR. I don't see any KDE in i386/DragonFly-3.0/pkgsrc-2011Q4/All/. x86_64 has 
kdebase_runtime4, but not kdebase4, so it's not usable.

The current version is 4.8. Any chance of getting the packages in pkgsrc 
updated to 4.8?

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji


can't start a new X session

2012-02-13 Thread Pierre Abbat
I tried to start a new X session using switch user in KDE. I got no kdm 
prompt; X failed to start, and in its log file I found (WW) xf86OpenConsole: 
VT_ACTIVATE failed. I then logged on to a console and tried startx. That 
worked, but got me a bare X screen with an xterm, which isn't what I wanted. I 
tried switch user again, which worked, but the computer went up to 71% of 
swap used and stopped responding. I rebooted and the computer hung while 
starting my own X session. I rebooted again, my X session finished starting, 
and I tried switch user again. Again I got VT_ACTIVATE failed. What's 
wrong?

Here's the relevant section of /etc/ttys:

# Virtual terminals
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25  on  secure
ttyv5   /usr/pkg/bin/kdm -nodaemonxterm   on  secure
ttyv6   /usr/pkg/bin/kdm -nodaemonxterm   off secure
ttyv7   /usr/pkg/bin/kdm -nodaemonxterm   off secure
ttyv8   /usr/pkg/bin/kdm -nodaemonxterm   off secure
# Serial terminals

Pierre
-- 
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Re: Can someone look at a kernel crash dump?

2012-02-11 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 00:30:40 Thomas Nikolajsen wrote:
 panic: assertion m-wire_count  0 failed in pmap_unwire_pte at
 /usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:1091
 
 This seems to match issue 2296 (panic: assertion m-wire_count  0
 failed).
 
 What was you doing on your computer when this happened?
 (which programs were running, heavy load etc)

I don't remember. If someone had been available to look at the dump when it 
happened, I probably would have remembered. I had the computer reboot several 
times without a dump and was trying to track down what turned out to be the 
linprocfs bug.

 Is this master or rel3_0 (or something else)?

master

 Has you seens this issue before  how often?

I've seen it before, but when it happened I didn't know what the issue was. 
All I knew is that it rebooted and gave me a dump.

 (Please use bugs (www or bugs@) to report bugs; much easier to track)

I don't know what bug to file until someone looks at the dump. All I know is 
that it reboots and either does or doesn't give me a dump.

Pierre
-- 
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Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.


Re: Can someone look at a kernel crash dump?

2012-02-10 Thread Pierre Abbat
Here are the backtraces (?):

Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
panic: assertion m-wire_count  0 failed in pmap_unwire_pte at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:1091
cpuid = 1
Trace beginning at frame 0xd356bab0
panic(,1,c067fe44,d356bae4,cc997a60) at panic+0x19e 0xc03839b3 
panic(c067fe44,c0733193,c07332a9,c0732964,443) at panic+0x19e 0xc03839b3 
pmap_unuse_pt(d356bb28,d4789898,28248000,1,c20fadc4) at pmap_unuse_pt+0xc5 
0xc0659b9c 
pmap_remove_all(c08aa370,c065bb9c,ff80a000,c065b504,d356bc50) at 
pmap_remove_all+0x1da 0xc0659de6 
pmap_page_protect(c1157e64,0,330ee000,0,d356bbc0) at pmap_page_protect+0xed 
0xc0659f48 
vm_fault_object(2,2816e000,2,d356bc74,d356bc68) at vm_fault_object+0x97b 
0xc0587955 
vm_fault(d35ddbf0,2816e000,2,c,d35ddbf0) at vm_fault+0x38b 0xc0588783 
trap_pfault(d590e618,0,d356bd40,d356bd20,0) at trap_pfault+0xd2 0xc065d4f3 
trap(d356bd40) at trap+0x402 0xc065d9aa 
calltrap() at calltrap+0xe 0xc062d227 
--- trap 0, eip = 0x7, esp = 0x10203, ebp = 0x280a49ec ---

_get_mycpu () at ./machine/thread.h:79
79  __asm (movl %%fs:globaldata,%0 : =r (gd) : m(__mycpu__dummy));
(kgdb) #0  _get_mycpu () at ./machine/thread.h:79
#1  md_dumpsys (di=0xc0c028e0) at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/dump_machdep.c:264
#2  0xc0383168 in dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:925
#3  0xc038377e in boot (howto=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:387
#4  0xc03839e7 in panic (fmt=0xc067fe44 assertion \%s\ failed in %s at %s:
%u) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:831
#5  0xc0659b9c in pmap_unwire_pte (info=optimized out, m=optimized out, 
pmap=optimized out) at /usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:1091
#6  pmap_unuse_pt (pmap=0xd4789898, va=unavailable, mpte=0xc2252c6c, 
info=0xd356bb28) at /usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:1131
#7  0xc0659de6 in pmap_remove_all (m=0xc1157e64) at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:2038
#8  0xc0659f48 in pmap_page_protect (m=0xc1157e64, prot=0 '\000') at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:3111
#9  0xc0587955 in vm_page_protect (prot=optimized out, m=optimized out) at 
/usr/src/sys/vm/vm_page.h:535
#10 vm_fault_object (fs=0xd356bc50, first_pindex=optimized out, fault_type=2 
'\002') at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:1660
#11 0xc0588783 in vm_fault (map=0xd35ddbf0, vaddr=672587776, 
fault_type=optimized out, fault_flags=12) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:497
#12 0xc065d4f3 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd356bd40, usermode=optimized out, 
eva=optimized out) at /usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/trap.c:1006
#13 0xc065d9aa in trap (frame=0xd356bd40) at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/trap.c:596
#14 0xc062d227 in calltrap () at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/exception.s:787
#15 0x2805367f in ?? ()
Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
(kgdb) (kgdb) 
Token   collisions owner
pmap_token   0 not held
dev_token0 not held
vm_token  11036369 not held
vmspace_token0 not held
kvm_token0 not held
proc_token3733 not held
tty_token   172439 not held
vnode_token  0 not held
vmobj_token 606484 not held
(kgdb) Cputime limit exceeded

panic: assertion m-wire_count  0 failed in pmap_unwire_pte at 
/usr/src/sys/platform/pc32/i386/pmap.c:1091
cpuid = 1
Trace beginning at frame 0xd356bab0
panic(,1,c067fe44,d356bae4,cc997a60) at panic+0x19e 0xc03839b3 
panic(c067fe44,c0733193,c07332a9,c0732964,443) at panic+0x19e 0xc03839b3 
pmap_unuse_pt(d356bb28,d4789898,28248000,1,c20fadc4) at pmap_unuse_pt+0xc5 
0xc0659b9c 
pmap_remove_all(c08aa370,c065bb9c,ff80a000,c065b504,d356bc50) at 
pmap_remove_all+0x1da 0xc0659de6 
pmap_page_protect(c1157e64,0,330ee000,0,d356bbc0) at pmap_page_protect+0xed 
0xc0659f48 
vm_fault_object(2,2816e000,2,d356bc74,d356bc68) at vm_fault_object+0x97b 
0xc0587955 
vm_fault(d35ddbf0,2816e000,2,c,d35ddbf0) at vm_fault+0x38b 0xc0588783 
trap_pfault(d590e618,0,d356bd40,d356bd20,0) at trap_pfault+0xd2 0xc065d4f3 
trap(d356bd40) at trap+0x402 0xc065d9aa 
calltrap() at calltrap+0xe 0xc062d227 
--- trap 0, eip = 0x7, esp = 0x10203, ebp = 0x280a49ec ---

It's number 11 in my crash directory on leaf.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


File corrupted on crash reboot. Can someone help diagnose?

2012-02-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
I had an email that I was writing to a few people. The computer rebooted 
itself. I restarted Kmail and found the message window empty. I cd'ed into the 
directory where it keeps autosaved copies of email being composed and found 
that it had been overwritten with zero bytes. Fortunately I could recover the 
content with undo (I've had this happen on Linux and was out of luck). Can 
someone receive the undo output and the reboot times and figure out what 
happened? I don't want to post it publicly, as it's a personal email, but I 
can send it privately to a developer.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Forcing crash dump doesn't work

2012-02-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
My computer rebooted itself again. (I'm pretty sure now it's a bug in hammer, 
from the time when it does it and the left periodic.cunsolerfu files.) I typed 
in the disk password, then it finished booting except for X, which failed to 
start. I removed the stale lockfile, killed kdm, logged into X, and switched 
back to the console to examine the periodic.* files. Suddenly I got a db 
prompt. I switched to my other machine and looked up the website for what to 
do next. I typed panic, and it output a whole bunch of stuff and gave me a 
prompt again. I typed call dumpsys and it rebooted. But then I found no new 
dumps in /var/crash. How do I get one?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Re: Akonadi/dbus was: repeated reboots

2012-02-02 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday, February 02, 2012 04:08:53 Chris Turner wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:47:57AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
  Also, when Kmail started, Akonadi complained about not being able to
  register with dbus. I thus have to write this on the Linux box. How do I
  fix it?
 
 I think this is roughly related to the GConf error you reported earlier
 that I was seeing as well - something seems amiss with gconf or dbus at
 the moment - I'm trying to write a test client to isolate the issue and if
 that works and the issue is not clear, I will try to see if there is some
 configuration/pebcac error, and if not, see if some gconf/dbus experts
 can assist determining if this is a bug there, or something on the df side
 
 For refs, building dbus w/o KQueue support did not seem to help the
 issue along for me, fwiw - and I enabled a system dbus and hald prior
 to both tests which I had not previously enabled.

I rebooted and Kmail is working now, but Konversation still shows only one 
server and channel, #konversation, so I have to reenter all my channels.

I have 2011Q4 in /usr/pkgsrc, but Q3 in pkgin, and have rebuilt one package. 
Should I try building dbus in Q4 or wait till the packages come out?

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: Hello all

2012-02-02 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday, February 02, 2012 08:48:19 8 Tail wrote:
 Never really used a Mailing List before. Also is this the appropriate
 venue to ask beginner questions about this OS and installation? Thanks.

Welcome to DragonFly! You want to odon8 your computer?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Paper size

2012-02-02 Thread Pierre Abbat
I have a printer connected to chausie, my Linux box, and shared with CUPS. 
When I print something on chausie, it defaults to A4. When I print something 
on darner, it defaults to Letter, whether I'm printing from a KDE program or 
something else like Aurora, and I have to change it to A4. Here are the 
settings of the printer as seen from darner:

PrintoutMode/Printout Mode: Draft Draft.Gray *Normal Normal.Gray High 
High.Gray Photo
PageSize/Page Size: Custom.WIDTHxHEIGHT Letter *A4 Photo Photo5x7 PhotoTearOff 
3x5 5x8 A5 A6 A6TearOff B5JIS Env10 EnvC5 EnvC6 EnvDL EnvISOB5 EnvMonarch 
Executive FLSA Hagaki Legal Oufuku w558h774 w612h935
Quality/Resolution, Quality, Ink Type, Media Type: *FromPrintoutMode 
300ColorCMY 300ColorCMYK 300DraftColorCMY 300DraftColorCMYK 300DraftGrayscaleK 
300GrayscaleK 300PhotoCMY 300PhotoCMYK 300PhotoCMYKFullBleed 600ColorCMY 
600ColorCMYK 600GrayscaleK 600PhotoCMY 600PhotoCMYcmK 600PhotoCMYcmKFullBleed 
600PhotoCMYK 600PhotoCMYKFullBleed

paperconf outputs a4. Since both are set to A4, why do the apps insist on 
defaulting to Letter?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Re: Paper size

2012-02-02 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday, February 02, 2012 15:35:58 Chris Turner wrote:
 On 02/02/12 14:00, Pierre Abbat wrote:
  paperconf outputs a4. Since both are set to A4, why do the apps insist
  on defaulting to Letter?
 
 Because it is the 1 true paper size :D
 
 j/k even though from the usa I prefer a4 anyhow ...
 
 Seriously- the thing about unix printer setups and configuration tools is
 that there are so many to choose from - some are going to use PAPERSIZE
 env var, some will use paperconf, some will have their own (eg.
 gnome-print), etc.
 
 Probably the printer is printing whatever raw data is given to it from the
 application - so its likely in the program config rather than printer
 setup config or one particular configuration tool.
 
 Don't have any specific tips for these applications - but I'd check the
 docs for the individual apps 1st.

The locale settings in KDE are metric and A4. I did a page setup in Aurora and 
tried printing. It still came up with Letter. KDE programs on chausie come up 
with A4.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko


repeated reboots

2012-02-01 Thread Pierre Abbat
My computer just rebooted three times. First it was running the nightly job, 
either hammer or pkg-admin (I don't know which since I wasn't running top). 
Then it rebooted while I was doing nothing in particular. Then it rebooted a 
third time and X failed to come up. I had to reboot it again to get X to 
work. None of the reboots resulted in a dump, so I'm stumped. What bug should 
I file?

Also, when Kmail started, Akonadi complained about not being able to register 
with dbus. I thus have to write this on the Linux box. How do I fix it?

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.



Re: Gconf error

2012-01-29 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 00:49:37 c.turner wrote:
 Did you ever figure this out? it seems I have run into the problem,
 and alas, it is not so simple since it touches the mess of
 dbus/gconf/hal/ which I have deliberately avoided learning until now :D

I didn't, and I've been happily using kate and kwrite since. I have had kmail 
die aborning because Akonadi (whatever that is) could not register with dbus, 
then the next time I booted, it could register with dbus. I did bmake 
replace on dbus, which appeared to make no difference, and I did rcrun enable 
dbus, which may have made a difference.

I had a cryptic error starting Kmail on my Ubuntu laptop and found out how to 
fix it with akonadiconsole. I probably have to do something similar on DFly, as 
my address book is in a directory which Kontact doesn't know about on DFly, 
rsynced from my Linux box. I can access it in Kontact on DFly, but it doesn't 
automatically bring up email addresses when I type the name. akonadiconsole is 
in a separate package on Ubuntu, but is in the akonadi package in DFly.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko


unexpected reboot

2012-01-28 Thread Pierre Abbat
My computer rebooted while I was browsing a website and left no kernel dump. 
How can I figure out what happened?

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa


Re: 3.0 release candidate images

2012-01-27 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Friday, January 27, 2012 15:21:08 Justin Sherrill wrote:
 I just put these together.  It's RCa because I haven't even tested
 these in a VM yet, so hopefully they are... bootable?  The next ones,
 if made, will be 3.0-RCb.  Please test, file bugs, you know what to
 do.

I don't have a spare box, but if you have one that uses the Intel video 
driver, or one that doesn't, please check whether DRI works in the X server. 
I've seen bug #2280 before and after branching 3.0.

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.


Is it OK to just build the kernel?

2012-01-26 Thread Pierre Abbat
I pulled the latest to fix the setitimer bug and made quickworld. While I was 
doing that, the kernel panicked (though it may have been caused by some web 
browsing). I resumed quickworld, but I got an error, so I'm making buildworld. 
If that fails, is it OK to build and install just the kernel, reboot, and 
build the world? The current kernel and world I'm running are from a week or 
two ago, but it looks like the entire C library has to be rebuilt.

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.


Re: error compiling kernel

2012-01-26 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Sunday, January 22, 2012 04:13:18 Thomas Nikolajsen wrote:
  I just opened bug 2279 (make -j 3 buildkernel fails on UP) which seems
  like
 
 A fix was committed, please test latest master.

make -j 2 buildkernel succeeds.

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do


Re: X reboot

2012-01-26 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Thursday, January 26, 2012 00:06:50 Romick wrote:
 From: Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu
 Subject: Re: X reboot
 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:24:38 -0500
 
  On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 17:09:30 Romick wrote:
  Hello,
  
  If you have intel video then you can try edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
 Section Device
 
   Identifier devname
   Driver intel
   ...
  
   Option DRI False
  
 EndSection
  
  That worked. What does it mean?
 
 I don't know. Something broken intel or drm.

I meant, what does DRI mean?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.


Re: kernel version in git repo

2012-01-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:47:09 YONETANI Tomokazu wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 05:20:44PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
  I have a bug report (starting X causes reboot) in which I gave a date but
  not an exact version, and I've been asked to check out the latest code
  and see if it fixes an unrelated bug (make -j2 buildkernel). What git
  command can I use before checking out so that you can reproduce the
  first bug?
 
 The output from `uname -a' contains a prefix of the commit hash
 of the source code from which the kernel was built

Matthias answered by private email and I added the output of git show to the 
bug report. uname -a wouldn't work, since I copied the previous kernel after 
finding out that the one I built caused the X server to reboot.

Pierre
-- 
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Re: X reboot

2012-01-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 17:09:30 Romick wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 If you have intel video then you can try edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
 
Section Device
  Identifier devname
  Driver intel
  ...
 Option DRI False
EndSection

That worked. What does it mean?

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera


Re: kernel version in git repo

2012-01-25 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 14:22:50 Matthias Rampke wrote:
 Ooops, forgot to add users@ again. For the record, here's the core bit:

You don't need to add users@. Just hit the reply-to-list button. I'm on the 
list, so I don't need a reply in my inbox, just the one in the list folder.

Pierre
-- 
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kernel version in git repo

2012-01-24 Thread Pierre Abbat
I have a bug report (starting X causes reboot) in which I gave a date but not 
an exact version, and I've been asked to check out the latest code and see if 
it fixes an unrelated bug (make -j2 buildkernel). What git command can I use 
before checking out so that you can reproduce the first bug?

Pierre
-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.


Re: error compiling kernel

2012-01-18 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 03:28:07 Thomas Nikolajsen wrote:
 I just opened bug 2279 (make -j 3 buildkernel fails on UP) which seems like
 the same issue (http://bugs.dragonflybsd.org/issues/2279).
 
 Does buildkernel work without '-j' ?
 Is this an UP system (ncpu=1)?

ncpu=2, the config is GENERIC, and it works without -j. I think this is the 
first time I've tried to build with -j, as it's the first time I've had enough 
memory to make it worth trying.

 (generally it is better to send bugs to bugs@; or just use the GUI)

What GUI?

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.


error compiling kernel

2012-01-17 Thread Pierre Abbat
CCVER=gcc44 BINUTILSVER=binutils221 OBJFORMAT_PATH=/ 
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/pkg/bin cc -O -pipe -nostdinc -
I/usr/include -I. -I/usr/src/sys/dev/disk/aic7xxx/aicasm -std=gnu99 -Wsystem-
headers -Werror -Wall -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-
prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -
Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -Wchar-
subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -static  -o aicasm.nx 
aicasm.no aicasm_symbol.no aicasm_gram.no aicasm_macro_gram.no 
aicasm_scan.no aicasm_macro_scan.no -ll
=== dev/disk/aic7xxx/ahc
=== dev/disk/aic7xxx/ahc/ahc_pci
( cd .. ; make aic7xxx_reg.h )
make: don't know how to make aic7xxx_reg.h. Stop
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
make -V SFILES -V SYSTEM_SFILES | xargs  env MKDEP_CPP=cc -E mkdep -a -f 
.newdep -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe  -Wall -Wredundant-decls -
Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -
Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wold-style-definition -std=c99 -Wold-style-declaration -g 
-nostdinc -I. -Iinclude -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -
I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC -I/usr/src/sys/dev/acpica5 -
I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica-unix/include -
I/usr/src/sys/dev/netif/ath/hal -I/usr/src/sys/dev/netif/ath/hal/ath_hal  -
D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h  -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-
growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -ffreestanding -
mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-stack-protector -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -
mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-ssse3 -mno-sse4.1 -mno-sse4.2 -mno-sse4 
-mno-sse4a  -mno-sse5 -mno-abm -mno-aes -mno-avx -mno-pclmul -mno-popcnt 
-msoft-float
rm -f .depend
mv -f .newdep .depend
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
# 

I did make -j 2 buildworld and make -j 2 buildkernel. The kernel and world 
I'm currently running are dated August 19.

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.


ssh -Y doesn't work

2012-01-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
bash-4.2$ ssh -Y chausie
Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
Last login: Mon Jan 16 05:23:37 2012
phma@chausie:~$ kooka
[1] 2822
phma@chausie:~$ Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
kooka: cannot connect to X server localhost:10.0

[1]+  Exit 1  kooka
phma@chausie:~$ 

chausie is a Linux box; running ssh -Y darner on chausie does work.

Pierre
-- 
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Re: ssh -Y doesn't work

2012-01-16 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday, January 16, 2012 12:33:03 Chris Turner wrote:
 On 01/16/12 11:21, Pierre Abbat wrote:
  Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11
  forwarding.
 
 ^ this is the problem
 
 Make sure that your DISPLAY is correct on this box, and that X clients can
 connect to your X server from here before trying ssh.

I already know that. I'm running Kmail on DragonFly now.

 Also always a good idea to make sure you *need* ssh -Y instead of plain-
old
 ssh -X.

What's the difference?

 Alternately you can likely muck with the X cookies on the remote end -
 see also xauth(1).

I don't understand X cookies, but I tried again and it worked:
bash-4.2$ xauth nextract - $DISPLAY
0100 0011 6461726e65722e6978617a6f6e2e6c616e 0001 30 0012 
4d49542d4d414749432d434f4f4b49452d31 0010 snip16bytesofhex
bash-4.2$ ssh -Y chausie
Last login: Mon Jan 16 12:19:01 2012 from darner.ixazon.lan
phma@chausie:~$ xauth nextract - $DISPLAY
No matches found, authority file - not written
phma@chausie:~$ xclock
[1] 11334
(I ran kooka directly on chausie already and scanned what I needed.)

Pierre
-- 
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