Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On 5/5/07, Erik Wikström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It downloads the DragonFly sourcecode to your computer so that you can compile it. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a compressed tarball of the sources instead of using cvsup. You can download tarballs from here: ftp://chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de/pub/DragonFly/snapshots/src it is great way. i a using 1.8.1 release hence will download that source and decompress it into: /usr :-) Yes, the steps under Keeping up to date are good, but use the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfile or /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-preview-supfile OK, i am using 1.8.1 release now but that tar file way is better than cvsup it you want preview. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a tarball as mentioned above. yep For third party application don't follow what's written under Installing software, look at http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/HowToPkgsrc and follow the steps under the section Pre-built pkgsrc packages, but use the addresses found on ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/All this directory does not exist :-( if a package you want can't be found there take a look in ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/vulnerable same as above. i checked that pkgsrc-current directory does not exist. any ideas of some other source ? -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On 5/10/07, Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 1:37 pm, arnuld wrote: On 5/5/07, Erik Wikström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if a package you want can't be found there take a look in ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/vulnerable same as above. i checked that pkgsrc-current directory does not exist. any ideas of some other source ? Joerg recently moved his site to pkgsrc-box.org - much easier to remember. yes and i don't even see xorg there: http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/meta-pkgs/ modular-xorg-fonts are there but xorg is not :-( -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
yes and i don't even see xorg there: http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/meta-pkgs/ modular-xorg-fonts are there but xorg is not :-( Have a look in ../x11. It looks like you will have to use modular xorg whether you like it or not now.
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On Thu, May 10, 2007 1:52 pm, arnuld wrote: yes and i don't even see xorg there: http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/meta-pkgs/ modular-xorg-fonts are there but xorg is not :-( There's no single meta-package for modular xorg yet, and I wish there was - it went from being a single step to a mess. However, others have already gone through this and listed the needed packages: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-users/2007/04/28/0005.html There's other examples, but this should work. I assume there will be a single meta-package again once modular xorg is 'settled' in pkgsrc.
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:14:47PM +0200, Erik Wikström wrote: For third party application don't follow what's written under Installing software, look at http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/HowToPkgsrc and follow the steps under the section Pre-built pkgsrc packages, but use the addresses found on ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/All if a package you want can't be found there take a look in ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/vulnerable Note that those packages are no longer updated. The current sets can be found under http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/current/DragonFly-1.8/All/ for pkgsrc HEAD and http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/All/ for the release branch. Before starting to mirror those, please contact me off-list. Joerg
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On Mon, May 7, 2007 6:55 am, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: Note that those packages are no longer updated. The current sets can be found under http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/current/DragonFly-1.8/All/ for pkgsrc HEAD and http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/All/ for the release branch. Matt - can you update DNS to point the CNAME for pkgsrc.dragonflybsd.org to this new location?
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
:On Mon, May 7, 2007 6:55 am, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: : : Note that those packages are no longer updated. The current sets can be : found under : http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/current/DragonFly-1.8/All/ : for pkgsrc HEAD and : http://www.pkgsrc-box.org/packages/stable/DragonFly-1.8/All/ : for the release branch. : :Matt - can you update DNS to point the CNAME for pkgsrc.dragonflybsd.org :to this new location? Ok, change made. -Matt Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
i wanted to have GCC 4.x based DragonFly system (for a C++ project) and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you are using HEAD, it is built automatically already. To use it set CCVER to gcc41. -- but Matt said please do NOT use HEAD. so i used LATEST preview release which was GCC 3.4 based. In /etc/mk.conf i added a line WANT_GCC41=yes but i do not know how to rebuild ? i tried Google and got this: # make buildworld # make buildkernel when i try this i get this message: do not know how to build world. funny message, i thought. so i have these questions: 1.) Is it a good idea to use DragonFly preview release as my general-purpose OS. actually, i want learn UNIX and i want GCC 4.x to work on a C++ project. i just use a Window Manager, xine-ui, firefox, emacs, bash, gimp, audacious or xmms and nothing else. i don't use Desktops. 2.) how to rebuild the preview release for gcc4.x and how long this process will be ? 3.) is it necessary to do this before rebuilding world: cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot co pkgsrc even after 4 hours, it is still downloading packages :-(. is it downloading the source code of every package ? 4.) DragonFlyBSd guide also advises to use cvs up after step 3. what is it and how much time will that take ? 5.) can you please provide a list of commands for rebuilding with GCC 4.1 as i re-partitioned my disk and reinstalled Arch GNU OS (a.k.a Linux) just to send this email. this i the only machine i have, my home PC. thanks in advance :-) -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On 5/5/07, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wanted to have GCC 4.x based DragonFly system (for a C++ project) and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you are using HEAD, it is built automatically already. To use it set CCVER to gcc41. -- but Matt said please do NOT use HEAD. so i used LATEST preview release which was GCC 3.4 based. In /etc/mk.conf i added a line WANT_GCC41=yes but i do not know how to rebuild ? i tried Google and got this: # make buildworld # make buildkernel when i try this i get this message: do not know how to build world. funny message, i thought. so i have these questions: 1.) Is it a good idea to use DragonFly preview release as my general-purpose OS. actually, i want learn UNIX and i want GCC 4.x to work on a C++ project. i just use a Window Manager, xine-ui, firefox, emacs, bash, gimp, audacious or xmms and nothing else. i don't use Desktops. 2.) how to rebuild the preview release for gcc4.x and how long this process will be ? 3.) is it necessary to do this before rebuilding world: cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot co pkgsrc even after 4 hours, it is still downloading packages :-(. is it downloading the source code of every package ? 4.) DragonFlyBSd guide also advises to use cvs up after step 3. what is it and how much time will that take ? 5.) can you please provide a list of commands for rebuilding with GCC 4.1 as i re-partitioned my disk and reinstalled Arch GNU OS (a.k.a Linux) just to send this email. this i the only machine i have, my home PC. thanks in advance :-) hmm.. this page gives lots of information tha i snot present in DragonFlyBSD handbook: http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/QuickStartBSDUser -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
On 2007-05-05 20:59, arnuld wrote: On 5/5/07, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wanted to have GCC 4.x based DragonFly system (for a C++ project) and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you are using HEAD, it is built automatically already. To use it set CCVER to gcc41. -- but Matt said please do NOT use HEAD. so i used LATEST preview release which was GCC 3.4 based. In /etc/mk.conf i added a line WANT_GCC41=yes but i do not know how to rebuild ? i tried Google and got this: # make buildworld # make buildkernel More on this at the end. when i try this i get this message: do not know how to build world. funny message, i thought. so i have these questions: 1.) Is it a good idea to use DragonFly preview release as my general-purpose OS. actually, i want learn UNIX and i want GCC 4.x to work on a C++ project. i just use a Window Manager, xine-ui, firefox, emacs, bash, gimp, audacious or xmms and nothing else. i don't use Desktops. Well, most of those applications will probably be available from pkgsrc and if not then some other workalike will be. And it's quite a good system to learn about UNIX on since it does not try to hide it's heritage like some Linux distros (Ubunto). 2.) how to rebuild the preview release for gcc4.x and how long this process will be ? It depends a bit on your computer and internet connection, but it can take a up to a couple of hours on a not to old PC. 3.) is it necessary to do this before rebuilding world: cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot co pkgsrc even after 4 hours, it is still downloading packages :-(. is it downloading the source code of every package ? No, it's not necessary, in fact I would not do that at all if I were you. Using binary packages are much easier, see below for more info. 4.) DragonFlyBSd guide also advises to use cvs up after step 3. what is it and how much time will that take ? It downloads the DragonFly sourcecode to your computer so that you can compile it. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a compressed tarball of the sources instead of using cvsup. You can download tarballs from here: ftp://chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de/pub/DragonFly/snapshots/src hmm.. this page gives lots of information tha i snot present in DragonFlyBSD handbook: http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/QuickStartBSDUser Yes, the steps under Keeping up to date are good, but use the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfile or /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-preview-supfile it you want preview. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a tarball as mentioned above. For third party application don't follow what's written under Installing software, look at http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/HowToPkgsrc and follow the steps under the section Pre-built pkgsrc packages, but use the addresses found on ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/All if a package you want can't be found there take a look in ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/vulnerable -- Erik Wikström
Re: rebuild DragonFly using gcc 4.1
Erik Wikström wrote: On 2007-05-05 20:59, arnuld wrote: On 5/5/07, arnuld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wanted to have GCC 4.x based DragonFly system (for a C++ project) Arnild, Pardon the top post, but I'd take all this a step or so further for a 'newbie' with only one machine: - Install a 'production' release of DragonFly in a separate slice before installing 'preview' or 'head' in its own slice. Equip the 'production' one with email, browser, man pages - all the 'tools' you need. And *keep* that one installed. i.e. - be able to boot to no fewer than TWO DFLY. Throw in FreeBSD, Minix or a Linux if you have the space, time, and inclination. Use a second drive or a USB stick if need be. Now you have a DragonFly baseline that is 'known stable', gets you man pages, packages, tarballs, browsing, etc - all with minimal hassle vs HEAD. From it, you can also manually mount the slice and partitions of the 'RD' version 'next door'. That lets you transfer files, inspect, alter, fix things of the sibling. Or clean it out and start with another. . which may be just another copy of the release version equipped with the Gcc 4.x compiler suite. PREVIEW or HEAD are probably not needed for your project at all *unless* their newest features - not just Gcc 4.x - are specifically part of the project itself. HTH, Bill Hacker and Trevor Kendall advised this: If you are using 1.8.x: In /etc/make.conf uncomment WANT_GCC41=yes and rebuild. If you are using HEAD, it is built automatically already. To use it set CCVER to gcc41. -- but Matt said please do NOT use HEAD. so i used LATEST preview release which was GCC 3.4 based. In /etc/mk.conf i added a line WANT_GCC41=yes but i do not know how to rebuild ? i tried Google and got this: # make buildworld # make buildkernel More on this at the end. when i try this i get this message: do not know how to build world. funny message, i thought. so i have these questions: 1.) Is it a good idea to use DragonFly preview release as my general-purpose OS. actually, i want learn UNIX and i want GCC 4.x to work on a C++ project. i just use a Window Manager, xine-ui, firefox, emacs, bash, gimp, audacious or xmms and nothing else. i don't use Desktops. Well, most of those applications will probably be available from pkgsrc and if not then some other workalike will be. And it's quite a good system to learn about UNIX on since it does not try to hide it's heritage like some Linux distros (Ubunto). 2.) how to rebuild the preview release for gcc4.x and how long this process will be ? It depends a bit on your computer and internet connection, but it can take a up to a couple of hours on a not to old PC. 3.) is it necessary to do this before rebuilding world: cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot co pkgsrc even after 4 hours, it is still downloading packages :-(. is it downloading the source code of every package ? No, it's not necessary, in fact I would not do that at all if I were you. Using binary packages are much easier, see below for more info. 4.) DragonFlyBSd guide also advises to use cvs up after step 3. what is it and how much time will that take ? It downloads the DragonFly sourcecode to your computer so that you can compile it. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a compressed tarball of the sources instead of using cvsup. You can download tarballs from here: ftp://chlamydia.fs.ei.tum.de/pub/DragonFly/snapshots/src hmm.. this page gives lots of information tha i snot present in DragonFlyBSD handbook: http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/QuickStartBSDUser Yes, the steps under Keeping up to date are good, but use the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-release1_8-supfile or /usr/share/examples/cvsup/DragonFly-preview-supfile it you want preview. If you have a slow connection you might want to download a tarball as mentioned above. For third party application don't follow what's written under Installing software, look at http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/HowToPkgsrc and follow the steps under the section Pre-built pkgsrc packages, but use the addresses found on ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/All if a package you want can't be found there take a look in ftp://packages.stura.uni-rostock.de/pkgsrc-current/DragonFly/RELEASE/i386/vulnerable