Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-03 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Dave Hayes wrote: Somewhat related to this topic, is there a reason that the installer isn't built from source along with a make world? because it is not necessary, makes stuff more complicated, needs either a) the source in cvs or b) a network connection, which we neither want. -- Serve -

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 12:36:32AM -0400, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Wed, August 1, 2007 11:34 pm, Matt Emmerton wrote: For pkgsrc, why couldn't we just include a recent snapshot of /usr/pkgsrc on the CD (much like how FreeBSD provides a snapshot of /usr/ports). The tree that I

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread Gergo Szakal
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 00:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with this - not including pkgsrc shrinks the size of the download, but it's still 80-something meg, and you end up using the bandwidth anyway pulling pkgsrc down through anoncvs, which also requires

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread Dave Hayes
Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After this release I would also like to see a bit of a cleanup of the nrelease build, such as creating separate targets that just build make variables like WITH_INSTALLER instead of rollup targets (e.g. 'make installer release' instead

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread James Frazer
What would be useful would be to create a /usr/pkgsrc/Makefile with some simple targets to acquire and maintain a pkgsrc tree so people don't have to go poking around figuring out how to get it. I will put something like that in place for this release since it will take

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Somewhat related to this topic, is there a reason that the :installer isn't built from source along with a make world? :-- :Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, its on of those things that we are on fence for. Generally speaking we do want to use

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I think this addresses the concerns of my initial (possibly :poorly phrased) question. If you could do that then that would be great. : :Thanks. Yah. It's in. It puts a Makefile in /usr containing easy targets and directions for pkgsrc and src.

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-01 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Matthew Dillon wrote: No. We only include kernel sources on the CD. Generally speaking there isn't much of a point including anything else on a CD, but I would love to see an nrelease target for a DVD which preinstalls all sorts of nice packages and contains the full pkgsrc

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-01 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Wed, August 1, 2007 11:34 pm, Matt Emmerton wrote: For pkgsrc, why couldn't we just include a recent snapshot of /usr/pkgsrc on the CD (much like how FreeBSD provides a snapshot of /usr/ports). The tree that I updated last night is 387MB uncompressed, 195MB compressed. I agree with this

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-08-01 Thread Matthew Dillon
: For pkgsrc, why couldn't we just include a recent snapshot of /usr/pkgsrc : on the CD (much like how FreeBSD provides a snapshot of /usr/ports). The : tree that I updated last night is 387MB uncompressed, 195MB compressed. : :I agree with this - not including pkgsrc shrinks the size of the

Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-07-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
The 1.10 release is looking a lot better now. We are basically just waiting for a new pkgsrc bootstrap kit and a little more testing. All major issues except booting a machine with a USB root with EHCI loaded have been resolved. All the fixes made to date have been

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-07-31 Thread James Frazer
The 1.10 release is looking a lot better now. We are basically just waiting for a new pkgsrc bootstrap kit and a little more testing. a) is the pkgsrc bootstrap kit installed along with the system? or b) does the installer ask to install it? or c) is this something that requires

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-07-31 Thread James Frazer
At least since three releases or so the bootstrap is being installed and pkgsrc tools can directly be used. This won't change, so yes, there will be a pkgsrc bootstrap installed. Hmmm, maybe I'm thinking of the pkgsrc src tree... is that included as well?

Re: Release 1.10 update - 31-Jul-07

2007-07-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
: At least since three releases or so the bootstrap is being installed and : pkgsrc tools can directly be used. This won't change, so yes, there : will be a pkgsrc bootstrap installed. : :Hmmm, maybe I'm thinking of the pkgsrc src tree... is that included as :well? No. We only include