Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Garrett
Samuel J. Greear wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features,

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? For me it was a Journey in search of the right software for the Job I had in my hands. I first

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Siju George
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Justin C. Sherrill jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: On Fri, September 24, 2010 6:28 am, Siju George wrote: What I am looking forward to? 1) CARP implementation whereby I can run 2 systems on the same IP 2) Qemu support so I can make DragonFly my main Desktop

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-24 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Fri, September 24, 2010 9:49 am, Siju George wrote: Oh thanks :-) Hope I will get sounds from the VMs too on my hardware. So Iculd run a Linux VM for flash ;-) I think multimedia/libflashsupport will work, so you can get your browser on DragonFly running it. I had success with it some

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-23 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :On Monday 20 September 2010 16:51:47 Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: : Why _no one_ answered my question concerning DF BSD contained in my : post: : http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2010-07/msg00091.html : :I don't know why no one answered, but I didn't answer because I don't know

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-23 Thread Jan Lentfer
Samuel J. Greear schrieb: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features,

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-23 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or Originally it looked like

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-23 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:33:28PM -0600, Samuel J. Greear wrote: What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features, methodologies, something about the community? I suspect the HAMMER filesystem to be

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-23 Thread elekktretterr
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:33:28PM -0600, Samuel J. Greear wrote: What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features, methodologies, something about the community? I suspect the HAMMER filesystem to be

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-22 Thread Oliver Fromme
Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features, methodologies, something about the community? First of all, I'm a FreeBSD user (since 2.0.5), and I'm not

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Today I think that the SSI goal has become less important. :The cluster hype has diminished and been partially :replaced by the cloud hype. Today, it is extremely :important to have excellent SMP scalability. Multi-core :systems are common, my desktop at home is a 6-core AMD :Phenom II X6 which

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Clark
I enjoyed working with pre Sys-V SunOS. I blame taking the C compiler out of the distro, the giving in to peer pressure to move to Sys-V, and the decade lost in the pipe dream of replacing Windows with platform-independent Java for the turning of Sun Microsystems into an overpriced chair

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-22 Thread David Rhodus
On the discussion of large SSD caches, Anyone seen these : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=18120%20600038493IsNodeId=1name=1TB -DR

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-22 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On the discussion of large SSD caches, Anyone seen these : : :http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEN=18120%20600038493IsNodeId=1name=1TB : :-DR I'm a bit leery of PCIe based SSDs. They have a ton of bandwidth but they are also going to be driver-dependent and

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-21 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:49:11 +0200, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: [...] BTW. I looked over packages. It seems to me the applications are not fresh. Wait a minute - I think that OpenBSD is more up-to-date concerning the packages. [...] We use pkgsrc for packages, so we depend on what

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-21 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:21:19 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: (...) I will try to answer here and now. The purpose of my question(s) is because I believe DragonFly BSD is not adequately represented in the easily accessible (main page and pages directly linked from it)

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-21 Thread Tim Darby
I got interested in DragonFly early on because of the stated goals. It was exciting to see a BSD project that was really trying to advance the kernel. I started replacing more and more of my machines with DF until I had only one holdout, an OpenBSD machine for pf, and then that one got replaced

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-21 Thread Dennis Melentyev
Since the very beginning, the goals are high: async messaging, lwkt, SSI. Later came HAMMER, dma, vkernels. Waiting eagerly for recent locking changes to stablize (and to upgrade my home server) And, sure, for smooth operation on my 2.4GHz P4 with 512MB RAM (ok, it has 1.5Gig for a month or so)

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-21 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Moin, well, I have a lot of reasons: - At first, I was surprised how easy it was to get patches etc. accepted in the DragonFly repo - The vkernel is really useful for giving CS courses at the university. Its about hacking a real OS kernel and not some kind of OS Java simulator. And

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
:That explains the noticable performance difference just logging in... I :always just thought avalon was getting used for something else I didn't :know about... Yah, the bulk build runs Avalon out of memory faster than it can swap pages out because the bulk build is also loading the disk

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-21 Thread Max Herrgård
Hi. I don't remember why I ended up using DragonFly, it certainly wasn't because of fancy project goals and such, but I do remember my venture into BSD land started on IRC, something like this: luxh: hi. which is the best distro? @coolguy: none. all the cool guys use freebsd luxh: what's that?

Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Samuel J. Greear
This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical features, methodologies, something about the

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Monday 20 September 2010 15:59:40 Colin Adams wrote: In my case it was the name. I'm obsessed with dragonflies, and my photo blog about them now runs on DragonFly BSD, to make things nice and tidy. It's the name for me too, though I'm also drawn to HAMMER. I run ReiserFS on Linux, and have

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Yocto
On Monday 20 September 2010 15:59:40 Colin Adams wrote: In my case it was the name. I'm obsessed with dragonflies, and my photo It's the name for me too, though I'm also drawn to HAMMER. I run ReiserFS on Same here. :) The name and the spirit, its community show, trying to push tech (

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/9/20 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:41:53 -0400 Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:51:47 Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: Why _no one_ answered my question concerning DF BSD contained in my post: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2010-07/msg00091.html I

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-20 Thread Samuel J. Greear
2010/9/20 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:06:42 +0300 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/20 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-20 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:21:19 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: 2010/9/20 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:33:28 -0600 Samuel J. Greear s...@evilcode.net wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Neumann
Am 20.09.2010 21:33, schrieb Samuel J. Greear: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this list? Technical

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-20 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/9/21 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: [...] A lot of people ask about and got excited on the three characters ZFS. Do you see any real advantage and applications for HAMMER for such home configurations? With emphasis on snapshots being stored on second disks? 1. HAMMER is much more

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Mon, September 20, 2010 3:33 pm, Samuel J. Greear wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following this

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Guillermo Amaral
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 09:50:30PM -0400, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: On Mon, September 20, 2010 3:33 pm, Samuel J. Greear wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD

Re: SMP (Was: Why did you choose DragonFly?)

2010-09-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
I think our ability to advertise our features has been a bit lacking. We're programmers more than we are salesman. Take device serial numbers in devfs for example. A simple feature that gives one a guaranteed device path to access a physical hard drive, no matter where it was

Re: Why did you choose DragonFly?

2010-09-20 Thread Joe Talbott
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 01:33:28PM -0600, Samuel J. Greear wrote: This mail is intended for the infrequent responders and lurkers on the list just as much as the regular posters. What has drawn you to use the DragonFly BSD operating system and/or participate in its development by following