Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Alex Harui]

One of the reasons Flex and Royale are at Apache is so no corporation can pull 
the plug.  Apache specifically does not allow corporations to have any say in 
their projects.  If Adobe decides to stop paying me to work on Flex and/or 
Royale, if I can find some other way to get paid to do it, I can.

As long as there are 3 PMC members who can get it together to approve releases, 
the projects can live on at the ASF.  The community only has to be large enough 
to keep 3 PMC members motivated to participate on the mailing lists and process 
releases.

-Alex

On 6/22/19, 1:35 PM, "Scott"  wrote:

So I am an old program  60 so I would say I have seen it all many time 
over, we have tried/looked at royal a number of times 

As for royal, sorry it is late, we needed royal to be in full production 2 
years ago, when we tried royal we kept finding new issues or missing elements, 
yes I know this is community code and I wish the project all the success 

Now for the real issue, community unless there is a big user community then 
the key developed will do something else, just look at what happened to flex 
when adobe pull the plug, this could happened again and who is to say it will 
not, then royal will be  a dead end 

Sorry that’s just my view, over 40 years of development I have seen this 
happen many time

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:48, Piotr Zarzycki  
wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'm curious why are thinking that Royale is a dead end?
> 
> Thanks,
> Piotr
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 4:42 PM Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the
>> solutions are out there and air will do auto update etc ...
>> 
>> Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top
>> app but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well 
the
>> WebKit stuff is not difficult
>> 
>> With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a
>> deal on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this
>> approach
>> 
>> In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to
>> HTML5 but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1
>> day
>> 
>> Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your 
be
>> porting again
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a 
browser.
>>> Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should 
consider
>>> AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Blake McBride
>> 
>> 

Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Scott]

Yes with 450 screen that’s a big job, air or the local wed browse is the simple 
approach 

We went with royal, the design approach is the same as flex, we started by 
creating 1 to 1 components, the new compounded are JS CSS SVGS in our case 
about 30 components 

The royal component architecture is identical  to flex so your front end logic 
does not need to change, we had a simple, MVC design

As for AS3 we used a converter to TrueType, the code logic is the same, we used 
a tool and a bit manual work, we took the operation to add testing 

We do have a simpler application, 30 screens that generated about 1000 screens 
, we planned on 6 man months work, we are 3 into the project and on track, we 
will end up with a stand application, in the sweet spot of the industry, royal 
will never be in the sweet spot for the industry

It is a big hit on cost and time, but we have a future, this app has been 
running is some form or other for 20 plus years, this is our 3rd rewrite we 
started with a desk top products toolbook 1995, which was good for 15 years, 
then we moved to flex 2010, and html5 from 2200 

Happy to provide detailed information if you need 

Scott 

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Jun 2019, at 17:03, Blake McBride  wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Thanks for the response.  I have some questions below.
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 10:42 AM Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the
>> solutions are out there and air will do auto update etc ...
>> 
>> Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top
>> app but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well the
>> WebKit stuff is not difficult
>> 
>> With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a
>> deal on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this
>> approach
>> 
>> In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to
>> HTML5 but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1
>> day
>> 
> 
> Since my Flash front-end talks to the back-end with SOAP & REST, I am able
> to create an equivalent HTML front-end without changing the back-end.   But
> that is essentially a re-write of the front-end, and with 450 screens,
> that's a bit of a task.  I do not understand what you mean by "keeps all
> the as3 code" since the required JavaScript code for the HTML is very
> different.  I also don't know what "converted to TrueType" means since
> that's just a font.
> 
> 
> 
>> Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your be
>> porting again
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
>>> Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
>>> AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Blake McBride
>> 
>> 

Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Scott]

So I am an old program  60 so I would say I have seen it all many time over, we 
have tried/looked at royal a number of times 

As for royal, sorry it is late, we needed royal to be in full production 2 
years ago, when we tried royal we kept finding new issues or missing elements, 
yes I know this is community code and I wish the project all the success 

Now for the real issue, community unless there is a big user community then the 
key developed will do something else, just look at what happened to flex when 
adobe pull the plug, this could happened again and who is to say it will not, 
then royal will be  a dead end 

Sorry that’s just my view, over 40 years of development I have seen this happen 
many time

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:48, Piotr Zarzycki  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'm curious why are thinking that Royale is a dead end?
> 
> Thanks,
> Piotr
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 4:42 PM Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the
>> solutions are out there and air will do auto update etc ...
>> 
>> Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top
>> app but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well the
>> WebKit stuff is not difficult
>> 
>> With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a
>> deal on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this
>> approach
>> 
>> In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to
>> HTML5 but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1
>> day
>> 
>> Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your be
>> porting again
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
>>> Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
>>> AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Blake McBride
>> 
>> 

[Release] Wizards' Guide & Calculator

[leokan23]

Hi all, 

I am back again with a new release :) this was a 3 days sprint from me and
my team. As you may remember, a while back we released a companion app for
Pokemon Go, built 100% in flex which managed to get almost 1.5m downloads
and is used in more than 110 countries. The company which brought Pokemon
Go, released their new game which is basically a clone but in Harry Potter
universe.

So we had to release a companion app for that, and it looks awesome.

Once again  special thanks to @quick6black for his awesome Material Design
library for 
flex, which has become our base for many projects and extended to become an
awesome UI lib.

The app was just released in the store[1]  and my team and more info can be
found in our landing page.[2]

[1] Wizards' Guide
  
[2]https://simpleapps.gr/en/wizards-unite-companion-app
  






--
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Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Blake McBride]

Hi.  Thanks for the response.  I have some questions below.

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 10:42 AM Scott  wrote:

> AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the
> solutions are out there and air will do auto update etc ...
>
> Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top
> app but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well the
> WebKit stuff is not difficult
>
> With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a
> deal on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this
> approach
>
> In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to
> HTML5 but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1
> day
>

Since my Flash front-end talks to the back-end with SOAP & REST, I am able
to create an equivalent HTML front-end without changing the back-end.   But
that is essentially a re-write of the front-end, and with 450 screens,
that's a bit of a task.  I do not understand what you mean by "keeps all
the as3 code" since the required JavaScript code for the HTML is very
different.  I also don't know what "converted to TrueType" means since
that's just a font.



> Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your be
> porting again
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
> > Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
> > AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Blake McBride
>
>

Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Scott,

I'm curious why are thinking that Royale is a dead end?

Thanks,
Piotr

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 4:42 PM Scott  wrote:

> AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the
> solutions are out there and air will do auto update etc ...
>
> Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top
> app but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well the
> WebKit stuff is not difficult
>
> With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a
> deal on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this
> approach
>
> In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to
> HTML5 but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1
> day
>
> Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your be
> porting again
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
> > Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
> > AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Blake McBride
>
>

Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Scott]

AIR is a good option but you have the update  install problems, the solutions 
are out there and air will do auto update etc ...

Google web frame work well, you install a browser, that looks a desk top app 
but run the flex app like today, I have tried this and it work well the WebKit 
stuff is not difficult 

With the new commercial owners of air etc you should be able to come to a deal 
on the desk top install of flash, I have talked to Andrew about this approach 

In our case we had the skills and due to timing we went for a UX port to HTML5 
but keeps all the as3 code, we converted to TrueType in less that 1 day 

Royal is an option but to hard and IMHO a dead end, in a few years your be 
porting again 



Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Jun 2019, at 16:25, Blake McBride  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
> Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
> AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Blake McBride

Re: Flash app -> AIR

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Blake,

Well AIR would be the easiest cause in best case you won't change single
line in your core app.

Another option is Apache Royale, but if you are saying about fast option
it's probably don't fit to that.

Thanks,
Piotr



On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 4:25 PM Blake McBride  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
> Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
> AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake McBride
>

Flash app -> AIR

[Blake McBride]

Greetings,

I have a large Flex(3.5)/Flash app that (obviously) runs under a browser.
Since the Flash player is going away, I am wondering if I should consider
AIR.  What are my other options?  What's easiest?

Thanks.

Blake McBride