Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-17 Thread Russ Fineman
...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 15:24 On 08/14/2012 08:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday, your changes broke

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
through and 2 clicks instead of 1 is a pita that i wouldn't normally notice so much.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Thu, 16/8/12, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: Bjørn Nilssen b

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2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
including reply.  Does MS ever comply with RFCs?  Does it even try to or claim it tries to? Regards from Tom :)  --- On Tue, 14/8/12, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.net wrote: From: Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 15:24 On 08/14/2012 08:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote

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2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
sometimes use something else.  What people usually mean is they have never used it as a desktop OS.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Tue, 14/8/12, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
have moved to.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Tue, 14/8/12, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14

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2012-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
/8/12, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com, users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows and Ubuntu systems. This is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Jay Lozier
-users] Reply settings on this list have changed To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com, users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 1:03 I primarily use SUSE but also osx and win. I support Anne. If (as an example only) 80% of LO potential is win based

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2012-08-16 Thread James Knott
Tanstaafl wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows and Ubuntu

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-16 Thread Michael Manning
I strongly support the change. It is the fail-safe option. Users of this list know how to use their email to send back to the list regards Mike -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread Bjørn K Nilssen
På Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:31:07 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-15 Thread anne-ology
exactly; and well expressed. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Bjørn K Nilssen b...@bknilssen.no wrote: På Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:31:07 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org**: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have

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2012-08-14 Thread Andrew Brager
The questions on your poll are rather leading. The items you have selected as questions are really not the issue at all. This list is still a list, what else could it be? You're using it right now as you're complaining about it. So clearly, it's not private communication at all. You

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Bjørn K Nilssen
På Tue, 14 Aug 2012 02:12:33 +0200, skrev Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for your feedback, and assure you that I read every bit, even if I don't manage to reply to every message in detail. My offer stands valid, let's

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I hope this gets to the right place. I used Reply All in Thunderbird. The header looks correct, but people are going to get duplicate messages. Why not 'Reply to List' (I use the keyboard shortcut, CTRL-SHIFT-L)?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday, your changes broke my email filter which puts libreoffice user group messages in a specific folder. But then I changed the filter from looking at Reply-To: to To: and thought that would suffice. Now, this morning I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread anne-ology
yes, I agree. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote: On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I hope this gets to the right place. I used Reply All in Thunderbird. The header looks correct, but people are going to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 08/14/2012 08:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-08-13 4:01 PM, Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday, your changes broke my email filter which puts libreoffice user group messages in a specific folder. But then I changed the filter from looking at Reply-To: to To: and

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2012-08-14 Thread anne-ology
and you have how many computers ??? Just wondering, when do you have time for other things? - as eating, sleeping, or conversing with others - as friends family; and when do you tend to various jobs; both work hobbies ??? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM,

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2012-08-14 Thread Steven Shelton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/14/2012 5:50 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. I agree. The purpose of a list like this is to share information. Typically, when a person on a list such as this one hits REPLY, that person is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Steven Shelton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all you're all Linux users who administer at least one Linux installation. And, crap, this stupid change . . . this

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2012-08-14 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
3 desktops, 2 laptops, 1 tablet - currently out of storage cabinets and setup to run whenever I need it to. More in storage. 1 Blu-ray Player with Internet content apps. 3 network printers [bw duplexing, color laser, USB printer/copier/scanner/fax], 1 USB printer [printer/scanner/copier],

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Andrew Brager
So you're saying because everyone else you interact with does it wrong, it should also be done wrong here. Allow me to remind you that two (or 50) wrongs don't make a right. Why is it wrong? Refer to Brian Barker's post wherein he references an RFC. I'd repost what he wrote but I've

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/14/2012 10:54 AM, Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all you're all Linux users who administer at least one Linux

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread anne-ology
exactly; and well said. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/14/2012 5:50 AM, Bjørn K Nilssen wrote: My feedback is that I don't like the change at all. I agree. The purpose of a list like this is to share information. Typically, when

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread anne-ology
wow, you should be a great attorney; you're very expressive. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart enough to run an email tool. After all

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-14 Thread Joep L. Blom
On 14-08-12 19:03, anne-ology wrote: wow, you should be a great attorney; you're very expressive. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.netwrote: On 8/13/2012 7:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Not trying to be rude. All of you should be smart

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2012-08-13 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply List instead of the text on the Reply All button. I run Thunderbird 14.0. I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to post a message to the thread. It could be confusing to people, but does make it easier to

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2012-08-13 Thread Felmon Davis
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply List instead of the text on the Reply All button. I run Thunderbird 14.0. I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to post a message to the thread. It could

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread anne-ology
exactly, therefore to change the default, you're changing this list to where folks will now be corresponding privately rather than allowing the list to hear what's new and learn from others. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
I just posted a reply to a thread to the last poster instead of the thread by mistake. I am so use to pressing Reply and the next button being Reply All, that I now have to remember to skip the Reply button and remember that the Reply All button has been replaced with Reply List. This may

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread anne-ology
exactly. Let's take a poll - (1) to return this list to being an actual list or (2) to change this from a list to private communications between only select ones, depriving the group of learning the ins outs of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great for mailing lists as it groups all replies to one thread in a conversation view. it also has a *Reply to list and a *Reply all functionality. It only seems logical to me to hit reply to list as that is what it is. anyway as

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2012-08-13 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
I'm subscribed to quite a few lists by now, and some of them has had this ”new” behaviour for quite some time. I was kind of hoping THEY would change… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

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2012-08-13 Thread Betti Ann and Preston Smith
Exactly - and this is why I totally am not in favour of replying to the person rather than the list Our British Car list used to reply to the list and if someone asked a question everyone saw the answers and ensuing dialogue. Someone complained about reply to list and the reply to was changed

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2012-08-13 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great for mailing lists as it groups all replies to one thread in a conversation view. it also has a *Reply to list and a *Reply all functionality. It only seems logical to me to

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2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:39 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great for

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2012-08-13 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated mail client. http://mail.opera.com I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use it for years now; maybe it's erased by now. So it could be a good idea to use Opera

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2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
It has changed to become @myopera.com now. and as it is still in beta phase you only have 1gb of space which is still heaps for emails! They plan to increase it in the near future. (best thing with this is there is no adverts to annoy me or nor is there googles stupid tracking policy!) On Mon, 13

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2012-08-13 Thread Girvin R. Herr
Greetings, I hope this gets to the right place. I used Reply All in Thunderbird. The header looks correct, but people are going to get duplicate messages. Here is another side-effect of this change: Florian, Right! Yesterday, your changes broke my email filter which puts libreoffice user

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2012-08-13 Thread Steve Edmonds
I prefer the list, or even better a forum. I won't be bothered editing the to/cc fields on a reply so it will be reply-all and every poster I reply to will get a private copy. I suspect in time this will become the norm. Steve On 2012-08-14 08:01, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Greetings, I hope

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2012-08-13 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 08/13/2012 03:37 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I'm subscribed to quite a few lists by now, and some of them has had this ”new” behaviour for quite some time. I was kind of hoping THEY would change… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ It will just take some time to get use to NOT

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2012-08-13 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/13/2012 06:53 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: On 08/13/2012 03:37 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I'm subscribed to quite a few lists by now, and some of them has had this ”new” behaviour for quite some time. I was kind of hoping THEY would change… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg

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2012-08-13 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 08/12/2012 12:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other words, with any e-mail client, replies to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread anne-ology
you're mis-informed; I, for one, have never used a Linus-based machine; and I bet I'm not the only one. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: On 08/12/2012 12:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on

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2012-08-13 Thread David B Teague sr
On 8/13/2012 7:25 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: I see the Reply List next to Reply in Thunderbird. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com That reply list button is apparently a function of this list. It isn't on any other list that I subscribe to. Many thanks to the list managers who took care of this

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2012-08-13 Thread Steve Edmonds
I primarily use SUSE but also osx and win. I support Anne. If (as an example only) 80% of LO potential is win based and this is the target for growth then to be non-exclusive and encourage advancement in the win platform the support list should cater for the most common win. mail applications.

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2012-08-13 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello everyone, I just wanted to thank everyone for your feedback, and assure you that I read every bit, even if I don't manage to reply to every message in detail. My offer stands valid, let's wait for some more feedback and some more days, and then make a final decision. Florian --

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2012-08-13 Thread anne-ology
Steve, you're so right; thank you for some statistics. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.comwrote: I primarily use SUSE but also osx and win. I support Anne. If (as an example only) 80% of LO potential is win based and this is the target for growth

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 08/13/2012 07:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 08/12/2012 12:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other

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2012-08-13 Thread anne-ology
Another method is to have multiple e-addresses - in this way, the e-address will remain valid even if the ISP changes ;-) each e-address is known to certain ones; I log-in to the e-address I wish to peruse then go on to the next one, etc. [and I'll

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Girvin R. Herr
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: On 08/13/2012 07:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 08/12/2012 12:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to

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2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
It is fine the way it is as of now, in fact I quite like the change as it means I no longer get broken threads in my inbox which leads to it being cluttered. so my vote lies with the change, I use to use a Linux machine but found it beyond my comprehension so migrated back to windows. Florian you

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2012-08-13 Thread Felmon Davis
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Girvin R. Herr wrote: I think I discovered the secret. In this group now, it appears when someone Reply-Alls to a posting, The To: comes from the From: posting header entry, which is the poster's address and not practical to filter on in this case. However, the group

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2012-08-13 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I would bet that you have used a Linux based machine. and you just never knew it. Seems like Linux is everywhere. Seems that I own a DVR, a fancy Panasonic DVD player, and a phone that all seem to be based on Linux. It is everywhere, we just don't know it! :-) On 08/13/2012 07:55 PM,

[libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were automatically sent

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2012-08-12 Thread anne-ology
Just testing; and find this may be the silliest way of setting a list I've seen. If someone cannot take the minute time to check the 'to' 'cc' 'bcc' then the 'subject' line, then are they smart enough to operate a machine ;-) or to handle any secure documents

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2012-08-12 Thread Brian Barker
At 18:31 12/08/2012 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled). Well done! This new way fails safe. A message intended to be public may get sent privately by mistake - a minor

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2012-08-12 Thread Anthony Easthope
I quite like this idea of change as it now seems that less mistakes should be made! On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 01:33 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:31 12/08/2012 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed (so-called Reply to mangling