Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Suo / 锁琨珑
I haven't used Manjaro before, but since it's a derivative of Arch Linux, LibreOffice must be in it's official repo, and installing LibreOffice must be the same as it is in Arch linux, just try: pacman -S libreoffice This will install the most recent libreoffice release for you. You can also

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Kevin Suo / 锁琨珑 wrote: I haven't used Manjaro before, but since it's a derivative of Arch Linux, LibreOffice must be in it's official repo, and installing LibreOffice must be the same as it is in Arch linux, just try: pacman -S libreoffice This will install the most recent

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hmmm, are you a regular distro-hopper?  Probably a good idea to install onto a new separate partition so that you can easily get back to your regular OS if things are not as smooth as they first appear!  Should be fun though :)  Good luck and happy hunting! Regards from Tom :) 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread M Henri Day
2013/6/9 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Hmmm, are you a regular distro-hopper? Probably a good idea to install onto a new separate partition so that you can easily get back to your regular OS if things are not as smooth as they first appear! Should be fun though :) Good luck and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 06/08/2013 02:04 PM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 06/07/2013 03:48 PM, Luuk wrote: On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote: Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33: Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/6/9 Kevin Suo / 锁琨珑 suokunl...@gmail.com: I haven't used Manjaro before, but since it's a derivative of Arch Linux, LibreOffice must be in it's official repo, and installing LibreOffice must be the same as it is in Arch linux, just try: pacman -S libreoffice This will install the most

Re: [libreoffice-users] GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 06/08/2013 06:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) There are a lot of very simple drawing programs on GnuLinux; gpaint (a bit like Paint in Windows accessories), gnome-paint, apparently mtpaint is as bit less simple and good for photos but still very basic. Draw is excellent, especially for

[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 07/06/2013 12:33, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi Tom, Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with GnuLinux? My 2cents : Canon : OK for workgroup printing, even fairly complicated option stuff *_IF_* you manage to get hold of a PPD file that you can then

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I wish I asked a tech person, on a domain/hosting phone call, where he got his LO copy for his Arch system. He loved LO on his Arch computer. I really hope you can get the 4.0.3 version installed, or 4.0.4 at the end of the month. It is much better than my Ubuntu's distro - 3.6.x for

Re: [libreoffice-users] GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/6/9 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There are a lot of very simple drawing programs on GnuLinux; gpaint (a bit like Paint in Windows accessories), gnome-paint, apparently mtpaint is as bit less simple and good for photos but still very basic. The Linux magazine ”Linux

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 06/09/2013 09:52 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 07/06/2013 12:33, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi Tom, Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with GnuLinux? My 2cents : Canon : OK for workgroup printing, even fairly complicated option stuff *_IF_* you

[libreoffice-users] Re: Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Hudson
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 14:58:05 +0200, M Henri Day wrote: 2013/6/9 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Hmmm, are you a regular distro-hopper? Probably a good idea to install onto a new separate partition so that you can easily get back to your regular OS if things are not as smooth as they

[libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/8/13 11:14 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: I like the concept that are core features combined with extensions/plugins to add little used features. Also, extensions/plugins would allow the dev team to focus on the core code and not run done every minor feature that is wanted. And the

Re: [libreoffice-users] GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought we were aiming at ones that look as simple as possible and don't have a lot of features.  Gimp and inkscape are hugely powerful but because of that they are a bit complicated.  MyPaint might be ok, it sounds like it might be simple.  Krita sounds like a KDE app but apart from

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) According to Distrowatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro Manjaro already has LO 4.0.2 by default!  I'd stick with that!  I would guess it doesn't use the Debian family (Mint, Ubuntu etc) .deb installers but also doubt it uses Redhat's .rpms either.  So, i really

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Upscope
On Friday, June 07, 2013 09:30:49 PM Stefan Gruber wrote: Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33: Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with GnuLinux? Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series... Stefan -- system: opensuse 12.3 -- To

[libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171 issue. The combatabts were GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, MyPaint and Pinta. MyPaint won the user interface round, but was worst in a few categories, such as text support, user interface

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 06/09/2013 11:56 AM, Upscope wrote: On Friday, June 07, 2013 09:30:49 PM Stefan Gruber wrote: Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33: Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with GnuLinux? Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series... Stefan --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 06/09/2013 12:00 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171 issue. The combatabts were GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, MyPaint and Pinta. MyPaint won the user interface round, but was worst in a few

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmmm, are you a regular distro-hopper?  Probably a good idea to install onto a new separate partition so that you can easily get back to your regular OS if things are not as smooth as they first appear!  Should be fun though :)  Good luck and happy

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Rich Lewis
This is very true. The only way to ensure compatibility is if you control all the extensions, which would be a nightmare. Sticking with the paradigm of upgrading software breaks a lot of uncontrolled X, Microsoft did this on a larger scale. When they introduced Internet Explorer 10 they

[libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 10:54 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 06/09/2013 12:00 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171 issue. The combatabts were GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, MyPaint and Pinta. MyPaint won

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2013/6/9 Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com: On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171 issue. The combatabts were GIMP, Inkscape, Krita, MyPaint and Pinta. MyPaint won the user interface round, but was worst in a few

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 10:54 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 06/09/2013 12:00 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171 issue. The combatabts were GIMP,

[libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 11:55 AM, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 10:54 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 06/09/2013 12:00 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/9/13 8:11 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: The Linux magazine ”Linux Format” compared image editors in their LXF171

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Jay Lozier
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 15:06:54 -0400, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: snip snip/ I've a friend who wanted to take a picture, place numbers over it and create a clock face. The only software she knew about was Photoshop Essentials. And I don't know how much time she'd spent on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 I didn't really get all the car tools references but the general idea came through anyway.  Sometimes you only need a minimal tool and then it is often better to choose something simple. However, i chose to use Gimp because i hoped to learn more skills just by seeing extra options in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There could be a core group of Extensions/Add-ons that are maintained as part of the program.  Official add-ons.  Then a bunch of 3rd party or experimental ones.  Encourage all to be made as OpenSource so that if/when the original maintainer vanishes then others could take over.  Regards

[libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 1:50 PM, Tom Davies wrote: I didn't really get all the car tools references but the general idea came through anyway. If you're interested, feel free to email me about the tools references, and I'll do my best to explain them. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.4 Firefox 20.0 Thunderbird

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:50:17AM +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2013-06-08 10:10, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/7/13 3:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote: snip I too wouldn't touch Kingsoft with a barge pole. I want to steer towards using formats that will be around and usable in a few years time.

[libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 2:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi:) There could be a core group of Extensions/Add-ons that are maintained as part of the program. Official add-ons. Then a bunch of 3rd party or experimental ones. Encourage all to be made as OpenSource so that if/when the original maintainer vanishes

Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread TOKI Kantoor
On 06/07/2013 01:25 PM, jorge wrote: I have installed Kingsoft in my Android Tablet because at this moment I think is the best option in that plataform and we don't have LibreOffice or OpenOffice for Android. Try EuroOffice For Android for ODT format files. Their website claims that CALC

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: GIMP - was: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 09/06/2013 21:45, Jay Lozier a écrit : I think you described the typical computer users. They only know a couple applications and use them even if they are not good for the situation. I suppose it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a

Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahh, brilliant!  Looks like we do have good options after all.  Thanks for that one! Regards from Tom :)  From: TOKI Kantoor toki.kant...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013, 22:29 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users]

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Hmmm, i was thinking of the official ones covering certain fairly commonly used functionality and the 3rd party ones tending to go for interesting oddities.  But if a 3rd party one was directly competing with an official one and doing it better then it would be great to have some

[libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/9/13 5:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Hmmm, i was thinking of the official ones covering certain fairly commonly used functionality and the 3rd party ones tending to go for interesting oddities. But if a 3rd party one was directly competing with an official one and doing it better then

[libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-09 Thread Urmas
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
It makes me ask the question how do people on distros such as Gentoo / Mageia / Slackware / CentOS solve this problem, Logic tells me that they would download the source code from here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=src This then leads me to the conundrum as to how do they resolve