Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-19 Thread planas
On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 11:09 +0200, Frieder wrote: > Am 19.06.2011 01:52, schrieb planas: > > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: > > > >> planas writes: > >> > >>> Lee, > >>> > >>> On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 21:42 +0200, lee wrote: > >>> > planas writes: > > > I believe that t

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-19 Thread lee
planas writes: > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: > >> planas writes: >> >> > >> >> >> >> When you need to package 80--90% of all features anyway, how >> >> important is it to put effort into packaging only 10--20% of all >> >> features seperately? >> >> >> > >> > The current pro

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-19 Thread Roland Hughes
The problem is that the programmers _never_ test with the extensions, so, when they make changes, the extensions quit working. Then the "maintainer" quits maintaining the extension. You want a shining example? Download, install, and try the SUN Weblog Publisher. On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 02:18 -04

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-19 Thread Frieder
Am 19.06.2011 01:52, schrieb planas: On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: planas writes: Lee, On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 21:42 +0200, lee wrote: planas writes: I believe that the 80/20 is somewhat misleading. As noted earlier must use approximately 20% but not the same 20%. I woul

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-18 Thread planas
On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 21:40 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: > On 06/18/2011 07:52 PM, planas wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: > > > >> planas writes: > > >> There you go: When you need a particular feature, you must have it. When > >> you need it, it

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 06/18/2011 07:52 PM, planas wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: planas writes: There you go: When you need a particular feature, you must have it. When you need it, it is totally irrelevant how often you or other users use it. How often a feature is used and/or how many

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-18 Thread planas
On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 10:39 +0200, lee wrote: > planas writes: > > > Lee, > > > > On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 21:42 +0200, lee wrote: > > > >> planas writes: > >> > >> > I believe that the 80/20 is somewhat misleading. As noted earlier must > >> > use approximately 20% but not the same 20%. > >> > >

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-18 Thread lee
planas writes: > Lee, > > On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 21:42 +0200, lee wrote: > >> planas writes: >> >> > I believe that the 80/20 is somewhat misleading. As noted earlier must >> > use approximately 20% but not the same 20%. >> > >> > I would estimate that somewhere around 50% of all the features ar

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-18 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
Il 17/06/2011 19:34, jorge ha scritto: Hi ! I think the most import is that there are several kinds of users, at least in OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Some of them use some features as statistical funcions; other use pivot table or macros ... as examples in CALC. Same in Writer, Base,

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 06/17/2011 05:55 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: On 6/17/2011 5:12 PM, planas wrote: The current problem is we do not have any good information of what features are not very important and do not extend the functionality for all but a few users. The question is what mix of included and extensible

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread Roland Hughes
Very few people know this, but OS/2 Warp was light years ahead of current Windows products with its speech technology. On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 17:55 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote: > On 6/17/2011 5:12 PM, planas wrote: > > The current problem is we do not have any good information of what > > featu

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread Eric S. Johansson
On 6/17/2011 5:12 PM, planas wrote: The current problem is we do not have any good information of what features are not very important and do not extend the functionality for all but a few users. The question is what mix of included and extensible features should be available beyond those that ar

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread planas
Lee, On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 21:42 +0200, lee wrote: > planas writes: > > > I believe that the 80/20 is somewhat misleading. As noted earlier must > > use approximately 20% but not the same 20%. > > > > I would estimate that somewhere around 50% of all the features are used > > reasonably often a

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
least that's the impression i have. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Sent: Fri, 17 June, 2011 15:33:52 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread lee
planas writes: > I believe that the 80/20 is somewhat misleading. As noted earlier must > use approximately 20% but not the same 20%. > > I would estimate that somewhere around 50% of all the features are used > reasonably often and the rest are rarely used. There are substantial features 100% o

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread jorge
as in Excel. It's all very imprecise of course. > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > From: yahoo-pier_andreit > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 17 June, 2011 16:01:29 > > Sub

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread planas
011 16:01:29 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use > about > 20% of the functionality. > > Il 17/06/2011 16:33, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions ha scritto: > > > > A paragraph that points to pcmag.com's article about &

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread lee
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions writes: > The extensions solve many of the functions that are needed by > the small percentage of users. We do not need them to be installed by > default. Spreading things across too many packages (that one can optionally install) isnĀ“t so great, either:

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread Tom Davies
ourse. Regards from Tom :) From: yahoo-pier_andreit To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 17 June, 2011 16:01:29 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality. Il 17/06/2011 16:33, webmaster f

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
Il 17/06/2011 16:33, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions ha scritto: A paragraph that points to pcmag.com's article about "100 Essential Tips for Microsoft Office 2010" list the following "rule": [quote] For most of the world, Microsoft Office 2010 follows the 80/20 rule: 80% of the people u

Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread Tom Davies
e impression i have. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Sent: Fri, 17 June, 2011 15:33:52 Subject: [libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the funct

[libreoffice-users] MSO's 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality.

2011-06-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
A paragraph that points to pcmag.com's article about "100 Essential Tips for Microsoft Office 2010" list the following "rule": [quote] For most of the world, Microsoft Office 2010 follows the 80/20 rule: 80% of the people use about 20% of the functionality. [unquote] That 80% that is not use