[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
Hi! I wasn't able to view the pictures in your message, in both Nabble and mailing list. I only get plain text. I have been trying out LibreOffice on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS in VMware player today. Everything is working fine. No all these windows bugs. - 雷聲 靐䨻: if you can see four Chinese

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
This reply goes to every one who has offered their help. I just want to say thank you. I have tried out LO on Ubuntu 12.04 and on Windows 7 in a VM, and these issues are simply almost gone on the Linux platform but remain the same on the virtual Windows. I will briefly answer all my questions in

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
I have tested LO for these issues on Ubuntu in a VM. Now I am much more confident that the problems I've described are Windows-specific issues and not directly related to LO itself. See my own reply to these problems. These issues may have arisen during the porting of LO to Windows, or may be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 30/01/14 17:45, ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪ wrote: Environment: Ubuntu 12.04 64bit in VMWare, clean install Isn't that the wrong way round? Shouldn't it be Windows in VMWare on Ubuntu? ;-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
Gordon Burgess-Parker-3 wrote Isn't that the wrong way round? Shouldn't it be Windows in VMWare on Ubuntu? ;-) Yeah, for so many years I have been keeping my self from the wonderful world of Linux, getting stuck here and there on the Windows platform .What a mistake! - 雷聲 靐䨻: if you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Only if you want it the stable and robust way around by adding the strengths of both OSes rather than adding their weaknesses. Regards from Tom :) On 30 January 2014 17:50, Gordon Burgess-Parker gor...@gbpcomputing.co.uk wrote: On 30/01/14 17:45, ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪ wrote: Environment:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪
CVAlkan wrote with Linux at least, Writer sometimes helps too much by silently substituting fonts for you and doesn't always make good choices - leading to it looking like one font (which you know has the character you want) is in use, when it really isn't. Hi, sadly (and interestingly) I

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪
Hi, Peter! Peter Maunder wrote Is their any reason you are still using the MS CP936 on your system rather than Unicode.? This is for downward compatibility with older programs not supporting Unicode. Every Windows distribution has this option, in Win7 it's in Control Panel→Region and

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread NeilBR
Sadly the way MS Office uses styles tends to introduce weirdnesses so a lot of people seem unwilling to try to understand them at all. I'll second that. One of the weirdest thing with styling in MSO is that format and style sometimes get mixed up, which is well exemplified by what Word calls

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Peter Maunder
Well there are three main issues that meet here and it helps me to keep them separate. I hope I am not confusing matters further by describing them. 1) Unicode, which your system supports, the standard characters that the system understands. 2) The Fonts you are using and are installed on your

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
Thanks for the suggestion. After reading your reply, I suspect this might be issues of LibreOffice on Windows (or more precisely Windows with asian code page configured for non-Unicode applications) but not on Linux. Peter Maunder wrote I can insert the face as a special character, and both the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Peter Maunder
♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪ wrote Thanks for the suggestion. After reading your reply, I suspect this might be issues of LibreOffice on Windows (or more precisely Windows with asian code page configured for non-Unicode applications) but not on Linux. As for keyboard direct input, Windows appear to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread MR ZenWiz
OT: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:45 AM, ♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪♪͡♪ gisrup2...@126.com wrote: - 雷聲 靐䨻: if you can see four Chinese characters instead of blobs or question marks than your browser/OS has a good support for Unicode and CJK characters! (P.S. the four chracters put together means loud

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Don C. Myers
Hi, Relative to 雷聲 靐䨻: if you can see four Chinese characters instead of blobs or question marks than your browser/OS has a good support for Unicode and CJK characters! (P.S. the four chracters put together means loud thunder) in Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity, in Thunderbird e-mail the 4 characters

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
MR ZenWiz wrote OT: in Chrome, I see 3 characters and a blank box. In Firefox and Seamonkey, I see three characters and a box with 4A 3B on two lines. Your browsers supports Unicode CJK characters, but either they do not associate a proper display font for the CJK Unified Ideographs

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
Tractor wrote in Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity, in Thunderbird e-mail the 4 characters are present. If I paste the same in LO Write from the Document Foundation 4.1.4.2 they also show up a 4 characters. Your browser probably has full support for CJK characters in the basic multilingual plane. I'm

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪
Thanks again. I am planning to check these issues in virtual machine with Windows or Linux installed, which I think would yield some more helpful results. I'm afraid I did not make myself clear regarding the non-Unicode support in Windows. I am confident that my OS is set up with Unicode support.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Don Myers
Hi Neil, At work, my e-mail is automatically downloaded to Thunderbird and comes off the server. At home it is automatically downloaded but stays on the server. So I checked the characters here at home tonight in both Firefox and Chrome. Here is what I have: (I've enlarged them for clarity.)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:18:32 -0800 (PST), ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪ gisrup2...@126.com a écrit : Tractor wrote in Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity, in Thunderbird e-mail the 4 characters are present. If I paste the same in LO Write from the Document Foundation 4.1.4.2 they also show up a 4 characters.

[libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-28 Thread CVAlkan
Hi Neil: You don't mention whether you are solely using LibreOffice's language support features or whether you are also using one of the OS-wide input method utilities that are available. I've found that, with Linux at least, Writer sometimes helps too much by silently substituting fonts for you