Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 20 November 2013 05:02:04 PM John Meyer wrote: > On 11/20/2013 5:39 PM, Doug wrote: > > On 11/20/2013 06:50 PM, John Meyer wrote: > >> On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > >>> I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather > >>> than continuing to mim

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 20 November 2013 04:39:49 PM Doug wrote: > No, find a _word processor_ not a desktop publisher. Forget all this > "styles" nonsense--let somebody else format the pages for publication in > a magazine or book! As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, > a lot of what's written on

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread John Meyer
On 11/20/2013 5:39 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/20/2013 06:50 PM, John Meyer wrote: On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather than continuing to mimic the typewriter in document creation, I think it's time we found ways to crea

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Doug
On 11/20/2013 06:50 PM, John Meyer wrote: > On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather >> than continuing to mimic the typewriter in document creation, I think >> it's time we found ways to create documents for a wide ra

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
-Original Message- From: John Meyer Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:50 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread John Meyer
On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather than continuing to mimic the typewriter in document creation, I think it's time we found ways to create documents for a wide range of reading options -- paper, computer screen,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
Tom wrote: As for why bother to try other Office Suites or other programs there are many possible reasons; ... My reason for trying other programs is my obsessive search for software perfection. My "thing" is word processing, and ever since I abandoned DOS (and my PC-Write) in favor of Wind

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) D for Document, of course. Weirdly there is a lot less wording in the ISO specification for it. MS's OOXML has a lot more words but then doesn't stick to it's own specifications quite so well. Accidents are only to be expected so we are all just supposed to buy their newer version to keep u

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Doug
On 11/20/2013 06:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) /snip/ > > ODF usage is on the rise and maybe a stepping stone might smooth the > way for a while. Hopefully as uptake of LibreOffice (and the other > programs that also use the same format natively) increases then some > of that will increase t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Tom Davies
nyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? >>> >>> Virgil >> >> Virgil >> >> I believe FreeOffice is proprietary and is the free version of SoftMaker's >> office suite. >> >> Jay >>> >>> >>> -

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Jay Lozier
On 11/20/2013 08:02 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: -Original Message- From: John R. Sowden I dropped them a note requesting a copy of the license. They responded saying there is none. Does this mean that the free version is public domain? I'm not up on German law to know. No, it wo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
-Original Message- From: John R. Sowden I dropped them a note requesting a copy of the license. They responded saying there is none. Does this mean that the free version is public domain? I'm not up on German law to know. No, it wouldn't be public domain (at least here in America)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-20 Thread John R. Sowden
of SoftMaker's office suite. Jay -Original Message- From: Doug Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker On 11/18/2013 06:36 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:32 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/18/2013 03:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Errr, you did say you knew the list wouldn't be happy about the suggestion! No need to defend your choice further! Personally i think people should try out alternatives because i believe LibreOffice is so much better that people will return to it. With some alternatives they are better for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Edmonds
May be Denis could try it on his 10 minute calc sheet and compare speeds. Steve On 2013-11-20 16:27, Doug wrote: On 11/19/2013 09:10 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/19/2013 07:30 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does anyone know if it wa

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Doug
On 11/19/2013 09:10 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: > > On 11/19/2013 07:30 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does >> anyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? >> >> Virgil > Virgil > > I believe FreeOffice is proprietary and is th

[libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 11/19/2013 08:50 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:30:24 -0500 "Virgil Arrington" dijo: FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does anyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? You can download a free version for Linux or Windows; I di

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:30:24 -0500 "Virgil Arrington" dijo: >FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does >anyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? You can download a free version for Linux or Windows; I didn't see a Mac option. It appears to be a complet

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Jay Lozier
Jay -Original Message- From: Doug Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker On 11/18/2013 06:36 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:32 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/18/2013 03:40 PM, Charles Smith wrote: On 11/18/13 11:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-19 Thread Virgil Arrington
FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does anyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? Virgil -Original Message- From: Doug Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-18 Thread Doug
On 11/18/2013 06:36 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: > > On 11/18/2013 06:32 PM, Doug wrote: >> On 11/18/2013 03:40 PM, Charles Smith wrote: >>> On 11/18/13 11:58 AM, Doug wrote: This list may not like the suggestion, but Softmaker has a free version of its word processor and spreadsheet. You might

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-18 Thread Charles Smith
Thanks for the link. I searched for Softmaker and just found the commercial site. Charles Sent from my iPod Touch On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Doug wrote: > On 11/18/2013 03:40 PM, Charles Smith wrote: >> On 11/18/13 11:58 AM, Doug wrote: >>> This list may not like the suggestion, but Softma

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-18 Thread Jay Lozier
On 11/18/2013 06:32 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/18/2013 03:40 PM, Charles Smith wrote: On 11/18/13 11:58 AM, Doug wrote: This list may not like the suggestion, but Softmaker has a free version of its word processor and spreadsheet. You might find it less fiddly than LO. --doug Hmmm...No Mac versio

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-18 Thread Doug
On 11/18/2013 03:40 PM, Charles Smith wrote: > On 11/18/13 11:58 AM, Doug wrote: >> This list may not like the suggestion, but Softmaker has a free version >> of its word processor and spreadsheet. You might find it less fiddly >> than LO. >> >> --doug > Hmmm...No Mac version and not free--unless I

[libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

2013-11-18 Thread Charles Smith
On 11/18/13 11:58 AM, Doug wrote: This list may not like the suggestion, but Softmaker has a free version of its word processor and spreadsheet. You might find it less fiddly than LO. --doug Hmmm...No Mac version and not free--unless I overlooked something on the website. Charles -- To unsub

[libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker Office for Android soon to enter public beta - ODT read and write support

2011-05-07 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/05/11 17:18, toki a écrit : Hi Jonathon, > >> Softmaker is about to go public beta with its Softmaker Office for Android, >> a comparison sheet of functionality here : > > Is there anything that can create/edit ODF spreadsheets, and > presentations on the Android? Yes, there is, called

[libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker Office for Android soon to enter public beta - ODT read and write support

2011-05-06 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 05/05/11 00:19, Steve Edmonds a écrit : >> > Just checked the linux version, 30 euro. Captions above and below > pictures, picture rotation, opens the problem docx ok, not as good on > the odt files. > Not as smart as LO, a bit slow, but hey everything we are discussing works. > steve > Oh