Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 13/09/2012 16:39, Jay Lozier a écrit : Why do you want to stop the creation of lock files? As I understand Enda's request, the problem lies in the following situation: 1. she opens an ODF file using LibO. 2. LibO automatically creates the .~lock flag thingy. 3. she closes the ODF file

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Jay Lozier
On 09/15/2012 02:28 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 13/09/2012 16:39, Jay Lozier a écrit : Why do you want to stop the creation of lock files? As I understand Enda's request, the problem lies in the following situation: 1. she opens an ODF file using LibO. 2. LibO automatically

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Jay Lozier wrote: On 09/15/2012 02:28 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 13/09/2012 16:39, Jay Lozier a écrit : Why do you want to stop the creation of lock files? As I understand Enda's request, the problem lies in the following situation: 1. she opens an ODF

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 15/09/2012 at 19:38, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: question: doesn't the Linux file system (ext2; ext3) register access time to a directory? in that case, wouldn't writing a file to a directory register in the directory's time-stamp? Yes, they does. On filesystem-level, directory

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 15/09/2012 at 19:38, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: question: doesn't the Linux file system (ext2; ext3) register access time to a directory? in that case, wouldn't writing a file to a directory register in the directory's time-stamp?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 15/09/2012 at 20:49, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: I don't know about OP backup tools (did not read whole thread), but rsync has --ignore-times and --size-only command-line options which may come handy in such situation. wouldn't really help her. I was pointing out that it is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-15 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 15/09/2012 at 20:49, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: I don't know about OP backup tools (did not read whole thread), but rsync has --ignore-times and --size-only command-line options which may come handy in such situation. wouldn't

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
Forgive me in asking, But only windows to my knowledge has a desktop.ini settings file and Enda said earlier on in the thread that the OS they had was ubuntu? surley ubuntu does not use a windows registry file for a settings store? On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, at 05:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1

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2012-09-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry about all that!  Ubuntu tends to be a lot cleaner than Windows, as Anthony points out there are no desktop.ini files and no thumbnail files (other than those you deliberately save because you want them).  The cookies and other invisible files we all get from normal use are much less

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Enda
I am the only user on the system. When I view a file, a dot file (like .~lock.file.doc#) is created. How can I override (stop) this in LibreOffice? - Enda - Original Message - From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 12,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Dan Lewis
What does it prevent you from doing? Are you trying to open this file more than once? You see, I'm confused why you need to override this function of LO. Since the dot files are hidden anyway, I don't see what difference the existence of these files make. The answer to my questions might

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Enda
When I backup all the files, I like to see which files are being backed up, if the folder has changed (by having a file created and deleted) I see this folder I when I backup. I would rather not see folders that have not really changed. (I am not trying to open the file more than once.)  -

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Jay Lozier
On 09/13/2012 10:00 AM, Enda wrote: I am the only user on the system. When I view a file, a dot file (like .~lock.file.doc#) is created. How can I override (stop) this in LibreOffice? - Enda Normally the lock file (.lock, .doc~) is created to prevent multiple users from updating the same

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Enda
There are many directories (and if the file has changed, I want it backed up), is there a way to stop creating dot files? - Enda From: John Clegg john.cl...@nailsea.net To: Enda enda...@yahoo.com Cc: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com;

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread John Clegg
Could you just not exclude this directory from the backup? On 13 September 2012 15:29, Enda enda...@yahoo.com wrote: When I backup all the files, I like to see which files are being backed up, if the folder has changed (by having a file created and deleted) I see this folder I when I backup.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Dries Feys
IMHO, why don't you exclude the dot-files from the backup? The really important dot-system files can then be another exception on the exclusion exception (opt-in) Met vriendelijke groeten, Cordialement, Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Senior Software Engineer On 13 September 2012

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Good back-up processes 'should' exclude anything that has not changed.  That is they 'should' be able to identify which files and folders have changed with a reasonable level of accuracy.  Like syncing process are meant to do.  Grsync is quite nice.  If you are happy on the command-line

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Do you delete cookies, temp-files, history, cache, desktop.ini, thumbnails and so on too?  It all seems too much effort and too likely to create problems.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To:

[libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-12 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 12.09.2012 15:23, Enda wrote: OS: Ubuntu Calligra does not create a dot file when viewing files, is there an option to turn this off in LibreOffice? I give up. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-12 Thread Jay Lozier
On 09/12/2012 09:23 AM, Enda wrote: OS: Ubuntu Calligra does not create a dot file when viewing files, is there an option to turn this off in LibreOffice? - Enda Do you want multiple users to be able to edit the file at the same time? I think this is causing confusion on the list. Often a

[libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 11.09.2012 18:01, Enda wrote: Can Libreoffice not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing? .~lock.file.doc# - Enda That's what it does. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-11 Thread Brian Barker
At 18:10 11/09/2012 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 11.09.2012 18:01, Enda Noname wrote: Can Libreoffice not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing? .~lock.file.doc# That's what it does. I think the questioner is asking Can it please *not* do so [when

[libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 11.09.2012 20:28, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:10 11/09/2012 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 11.09.2012 18:01, Enda Noname wrote: Can Libreoffice not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing? .~lock.file.doc# That's what it does. I think the questioner is