Hi Anne and Jay,
Le 2012-08-16 00:53, Jay Lozier a écrit :
(3) Thank you for standing up against these list-members who respond
at the bottom !
Actually there are two different philosophies. Top posting works best
when only a few people are actively involved in the conversation and all
are
På Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:29:24 +0200, skrev Andrew Brager
apb3...@bak.rr.com:
Thunderbird has the option. I don't know what other clients have it, if
any.
Opera have that option too.
But it still doesn't make the idea of making the From: the default To:
address for replies any better.
It
Hi :)
Bottom posting is a good way to alienate most of the target
market-shares that LO needs to break into. Many new people are
completely unaware that there is any other way of posting other than
top-posting because top posting is so widespread.
Also there
are a ridiculous number of rules,
Hi :)
Most word-processors (and incl LO, of course) have a strange
backwards P icon on one of the icon-menus/tool-bars at the top. You
can switch it on or off for your machine without affecting the way that
other people (on other machines) view your document because they have
their own setting
Hi :)
I'm not entirely sure what any of that has to do with LO or TDF.
My views are my own and nothing to do with TDF or LO so i try to keep them to
myself. There is no reason to bring politics into this world-wide list,
especially when it's just 1 country acting in a facist way.
Great
Hi :)
Interesting thought and a good diagram, thanks :)
Something i have wondered for a while is how to utilise what this particular
list has to offer, perhaps confirming bug-reports could be partially done
through this list?
Occasionally someone new on this list expresses an interest in
Hi :)
One event in 2 years is not worth creating a big fuss over. It got fixed
through some excellent work by Florian (as usual) and i think someone else.
The vast majority of people seem to realise that anything can go very public
and perhaps even go viral very fast.
We seldom seem to
Hi :)
There is a little documentation at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
but the most useful thing (for Base) is the Faq
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
also if you scroll down the Publications page you might notice a few other
Hello,
Michael Smith wrote on 2012-08-16 00:33:
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to write this message is not subscribed to the list. Do you maybe use an
alias?
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Hi Florian :)
We normally try to fix the problem on-list before contacting you.
Usually people just need a gentle nudge towards the documentation in
the signature of all mails from the lists.
Thanks tho and regards from
Tom :)
--- On Thu, 16/8/12, Florian Effenberger
Hi :)
My preference would be to simply ignore the blue-line and the invitation. You
can always change the colour of the line in
Tools - Options - Appearance
(i think. Somewhere around there anyway). I made mine dark-red because i just
hate blue. Blue is too corporate and over-used imo.
Hi :)
I thought slackware deliberately avoided having ANY office suite as part of
their fairly extremist views about computing? Probably most of the rest of the
slackware family have LO in the repos or as the default suite or are moving
towards it. I think it's good to have extremists pulling
I have a feeling it was some spam that the nabble bot might of missed?
although saying that it was an interesting read and thanks who/whatever
you are for the share :P
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, at 09:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I'm not entirely sure what any of that has to do with LO or TDF.
Hi :)
Brilliant! Thanks :) It's good to hear about how to solve problems
particularly on Macs. Thanks for digging-out the answer and eltting us know
how you did it. Hopefully it might help someone in the future.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
--- On Wed, 15/8/12, Ben Smith-Mannschott
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
Le 15/08/2012 21:37, Dan a écrit :
Or you could keep your cursor below the top of the text area of
a document. You could also create a default template which will have a
solid 10% gray line around the text area. Just don't stray above the top
of this
I'll try to explain more clearly what I did (libreoffice 3.5.5:
1 - create your image or whatever in draw. I created a 5.3/5.3in image
2 - file - export
3 - choose png (as you were talking about png initially; it might work the
same for other formats)
4 - in the next dialog, it show the good size
Hi :)
I have a Japanese friend (in the Cc field) that has been looking for a decent
(and preferably free!) japanese font. It seems that a lot of characters still
get shown as blank boxes (playing cards). Does anyone know of a decent and
fairly comprehensive japanese font?
Regards from
Tom :)
Hello,
I am using LibreOffice x86_64 on Linux, installed from official rpms.
Since it got updated to Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512), rkhunter
whines :
Checking for packet capturing applications
Warning: Process '/opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice.bin' (PID 15079) is
listening on the
Hi :)
MSO 2007 and 2010 can save as Pdf or rather
File - Export to Pdf
but it's very limited compared to LO's. With LO's you can choose a range of
options such as tagged (or not), 1a, compression rate or even uncompressed,
type of compression (defaults to the standard jpg), set the dpi for
Good evening from Japan
Naturally I do have a number of Japanese fonts in my computer, most of
which came with the OS, but I think there are also a few others.
Personally I do not mind to send a copy of those unless this represents
a crime of one sort or other.
Thomas
(2012/08/16 20:38), Tom
Hi :)
I think TDF, just like other companies and organisations, could have more than
1 product. It might be best if they bring their community and structures with
them and retain a lot of independence and work-flow but obviously there might
be some things that TDF could offer or would want
Ciao Everyone!
My current notebook system:
- OpenSuSE 12.1, updated, gnome 3.4.1, Kernel Linux 3.1.10-63-desktop,
x86-64 (on an Intel EM64T Cpu), italian GUIed;
- nVidia GeForce 9500M GS - 512 Mbyte dedicated Video RAM, kernel
integrated nouveau driver;
- LibreOffice vanilla Version *3.6.1.1*
Hi :)
Thanks for the links off-list! I haven't looked at the copyright permissions
on those yet but it might be worth copying them to the list. I know Webmaster
at Kracked Press will probably be keen to know!
Anyway, many thanks and regards from
Tom :)
--- On Thu, 16/8/12, Thomas
Hi :)
+1
Yahoo is set-up to be a pita anyway, i know. There is a reply button but to do
a reply-to-all takes 2 clicks and you have to wait after the 1st click for it's
sub-menu (with only 2 items in it) to appear. Other, proper email-clients, may
have tons of options but Yahoo only offers 2
Hi :)
Is it possible to set filters to look for items in a subject-line instead of
looking at where replies might go to? Messages from the users list always seem
to have [libreoffice-users] in the subject-line but not always in the same
place ...
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Tue, 14/8/12,
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On 08/16/2012 03:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Bottom posting is a good way to alienate most of the target
I strongly dislike bottom posting Just saying... If it were
obviously the correct and logical choice, then I expect more people
would tend towards it naturally.
I usually follow
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Hi :)
Hmmm, over 60% of the worlds top 50 supercomputers use GnuLinux and most of
the rest use other unix-based platforms. So anyone using the internet or any
email system has probably used Linux. Google servers run on GnuLinux. Almost
all mobile phones used GnuLinux although smart phones
Yes I would.
I just sent you, your friend, and Thomas B. an email off list about this
font problem.
Have you tried to search the Synaptic Package Manager [Ubuntu 10.04 for
me] for japanese font. There are a lot of listing there.
As I stated in that email, I think Thomas B. would know
Hi :)
Ahhh, nicely remembered! I do use Ubuntu but unfortunately my friend uses Xp
and may move to Win7 if work forces it on us as they seem to want to.
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Thu, 16/8/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P
I bet most of the fonts Japanese that comes with Ubuntu would be free to
distribute. There seems to be both TTF and OTF fonts listed. SO if
they are free to distribute, then you have no problems for your friend
to get them from you.
On 08/16/2012 09:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahhh,
Hi :)
That is very considerate of you! Typical of you really. I tried that for a
while but in life generally (ie not just in here) i find that whatever i do
annoys a large number of people so now i just do whatever is easiest for me to
get the job done.
I'm not convinced that whatever most
Thanks for clearing up that acronym.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/15/2012 08:48 PM, anne-ology wrote:
(2) Just what - or who - is RFC ???
Request for comments
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Hi :)
+1
It is good to experiment and play around with things in search of the best
answer. I think the way it was before was the best way i have ever seen from
any list. I was bragging about it on the Ubuntu lists quite recently where
they often have problems with the new type of system we
yes, I agree with you; and thanks for your kind words.
For the listers who promote Thunderbird Opera, the problems, some
of which are noted here, persist ;-(
BTW - what is PM ? ... Prime Minister doesn't fit into the context
;-)
Hi :)
I am not sure about current usage levels but 2 areas that Sun had problems
trying to break into were
1. Windows users
2. US and England etc
Europe, Brazil and many other places were quite happy to use a product that
wasn't primarily about making huge profits for a certain US company.
brilliantly said.
And may I add this use of acronyms is silly ... are we supposed to
memorize each new one ???
here's supposedly a complete listing -
http://www.all-acronyms.com/
Yes, growing up pre-computers was different from you post-computer
youngsters, but
And now someone has jumped on my bug and changed my reporting so that it shows
that it is only in 3.3 - that's the last straw. I will not have anything
further to do with bug reporting. All those fine devs can choke on their bloody
buggy product. Congratulations! You have alienated yet another
Gr, can't you just change it back?
Don't go! If you do you will be missed!
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Thu, 16/8/12, Marc Grober m...@interak.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply
unimportant. Start
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a
mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I
could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows
and Ubuntu systems.
This is
On 08/16/2012 10:50 AM, anne-ology wrote:
brilliantly said.
And may I add this use of acronyms is silly ... are we supposed to
memorize each new one ???
here's supposedly a complete listing -
http://www.all-acronyms.com/
Yes, growing up pre-computers was
On 08/16/2012 10:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I am not sure about current usage levels but 2 areas that Sun had problems
trying to break into were
1. Windows users
2. US and England etc
Europe, Brazil and many other places were quite happy to use a product that
wasn't primarily about
How old do you think engineering is?
granted this term existed, yet the definition has changed
post-industrialization.
Here are a couple sites which seem to be fairly accurate
historically -
http://www.creatingtechnology.org/history.htm
On 8/16/12 7:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Gr, can't you just change it back?
rant
That is not the point, Tom.
This bug was only really a matter of a file having been dropped. But the
devs have spent more time fiddling with how it is listed than if they
had just added the missing file. More
Tanstaafl wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
With this mix of system being used for various tasks, I would have a
mess if I tried to read emails on more than one system, even if I
could get a sync system to work properly between the various Windows
and Ubuntu
Hi Marc,
On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 08:23 -0800, Marc Grober wrote:
But the devs have spent more time fiddling with how it is listed
One thing that frustrates me, since I've only just subscribed is that
we seem to be talking about a load of bugs with no numbers I can easily
lookup.
Give it a rest.
I am 60. I know what an RFQ and what an RFC is. I know what NATO is and
what a BFF is, lol. I know where I can go to find acronyms because
I spent the time to go look. And if someone references zotero, instead
of asking a dozen times what it is, I can spend two seconds
The latest from Florian in misspelled CAPS (which now brings us to the
fact that the devs have touched this bug some 8 times without ever
bothering to actually read it) - Bravo Florian, we read you 5 by 5:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35361
Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com
And here is the best bit:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35361
--- Comment #42 from Björn Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com
2012-08-16 16:58:22 UTC ---
@Marc:
Seeing you boasting here:
I put the bug back into Resolved-Invalid status.
Done. Excuse me while I go abuse myself :-)
On 8/16/12 9:03 AM, Marc Grober wrote:
And here is the best bit:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35361
--- Comment #42 from Björn Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com
2012-08-16
Version 3.6 of Scalc treats a date entered in the format dd-MMM-yy as
text, not as a date which can be displayed in a user selectable format.
This is not true if the date is entered as mm/dd/yy or -mm-dd.
This is a change from 3.5.X and I consider it a bug.
Shaun Devlin
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Le 16/08/2012 13:00, Dan a écrit :
I think that the non-printable characters is Control+F10. Using
F10 opens the File Menu in LO for me.
Boy! Do I feel silly. Thanks for the correction, Dan.
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Am 16.08.2012 19:05, Shaun Devlin wrote:
Version 3.6 of Scalc treats a date entered in the format dd-MMM-yy as
text, not as a date which can be displayed in a user selectable format.
This is not true if the date is entered as mm/dd/yy or -mm-dd.
This is a change from 3.5.X and I consider it
I have several times gone through making and customizing the styles I
use in LibreOffice Writer, and each time I come back I discover that all
of my work has disappeared. The custom styles I created are gone, and
the modifications I made to the built-in styles have been discarded. I
assume I
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Thank you Marc, couldn't have sad it better my self. Now let the flame
wars begin again about top vs. bottom posting. I'm normally a bottom
poster, but am trying to convert.
- From another 60 something old fart!
On 08/16/2012 12:55 PM, Marc Grober
Le 16/08/2012 21:09, Kevin O'Brien a écrit :
I have several times gone through making and customizing the styles I
use in LibreOffice Writer, and each time I come back I discover that all
of my work has disappeared. The custom styles I created are gone, and
the modifications I made to the
Thank you, Jean-Francois. I will get on that right away.
On 08/16/2012 03:35 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
Le 16/08/2012 21:09, Kevin O'Brien a écrit :
I have several times gone through making and customizing the styles I
use in LibreOffice Writer, and each time I come back I discover
I actually agree with that. It makes sense and will mean more people
will become aware of both projects which is waht I suppose we really
need/want?
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, at 02:34 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I think TDF, just like other companies and organisations, could have more
than 1
On 08/16/2012 07:14 AM, anne-ology wrote:
Thanks for clearing up that acronym.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=RFC
You can repeat the same on Google, Yahoo!, Bing, Wikipedia et al.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/15/2012 08:48 PM,
I strongly support the change. It is the fail-safe option. Users of this
list know how to use their email to send back to the list
regards
Mike
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Michael,
It is pretty rare for specifics of bugs to be entered on the Users list, where
there might have a passing comment that a bug would be or had been filed. But
often no additional details of the bug in the discussion. But, that said, the
threads are pretty descriptive.
Being a new
Hi :)
A dev might have more joy with the very functional GMane interface rather than
the gui prettiness of Nabble.
Even so i think this list is too high-volume to be data-mined for the required
information and anyway it's extremely rare that specific bug reports are
referenced either by name
Hi :)
I think that on this particular list we should be open and allow people to use
any style they want.
Each
of the 3 main styles have merits but also have flaws. I think this
particular list should 1. Welcome people whatever style they use and
avoid demanding they change styles purely for
On 08/16/2012 04:45 AM, Philippe Naudin wrote:
Hello,
I am using LibreOffice x86_64 on Linux, installed from official rpms.
Since it got updated to Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512), rkhunter
whines :
Checking for packet capturing applications
Warning: Process
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, Tom Davies wrote:
The question is not about wrong or right imo, it's about whether we
want new people to start using LO and to feel welcome or do we want
to discourage all newcomers?
don't assume most new-comers are not familiar with mailing lists. some
aren't but many
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