Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening
On 3/11/2014 10:25 PM, Alan B wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM, William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.uswrote: I have a spreadsheet that stalls when I try to open it and when I try to save it. It does eventually open after a very long time. I Just looking for confirmation the issue is with only one particular spreadsheet? Yes. Only one spreadsheet. Calc on Ubuntu does this to me fairly often with any spreadsheet. I filed a bug report but I don't think there's active interest in it. When the report was filed I got a suggestion to upgrade, did so and the problem stopped. Now, a few Ubuntu patches later, and the stall when open behavior is back. My work around has been Apache OpenOffice. When I get tired of the stalling (and it's only Calc not Write or other programs) I start using AOO Calc. Usually after a few LO patches are part of the Ubuntu updates the stalling stops. So... if is a problem with any spreadsheet, check if there is a newer LO and install that to see if the issue is resolved. If the issue isn't resolved by upgrading LO consider installing AOO and try opening the spreadsheet with AOO Calc. If the problem persists when the spreadsheet is opened with AOO Calc it is definitely the spreadsheet. Regardless of trying AOO, if it is only one particular spreadsheet, a bit more information would be helpful trying to diagnose the problem. - did this spreadsheet always act this way? No. - if no, -- what changes were made to the computer between the time the spreadsheet last opened normally and first opened slowly? i.e., add/remove, upgrade, or patch software I Upgraded to LO 4.2.1 from 4.2.0. -- what changes were made to the spreadsheet between the time it last opened normally and it first opened slowly? ie, add borders to cells, create new formulas, add more data No changes were made to the spreadsheet. I'd post a copy of it somewhere, but it's my personal budget from last year. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: cross references in footnotes
Tom Davies had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 12-03-14 16:04: Hi :) This wiki might help you post the bug-report https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Regards from Tom :) On 12 March 2014 12:51, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2014, Erik Jan ejvwaasd...@msn.com wrote: I made a document in Libreoffice 4.2.1 Mageia 3 with a few cross references to other footnotes in the document. When I exported the document to pdf some of these references had changed. After saving the document and reopening it the references were still wrong. I tried to correct them, but in vain. I made new cross references, but these also were changed after saving and reopening the file. So I went back to 4.1.5 but the problem remained. Then I went back to 4.0.6. In this version the wrong references were right again. Looks like a bug, so please submit and confirm the bug number, so those interested can subscribe. Making references in word-processors is a well-known deficiency. Suggest you import the LOwriter odt file into LyX and produce your pdf in that program. In Mageia 3 I uninstalled Libreoffice version 3 and installed from Libreoffice.org the newest versions available. I did the same with Openoffice before Libreoffce was made. Never had any problem. Now I went back to Libreoffice 4.6 from Mageia itself and I noticed that in the dependency list there were several libraries not coming from Libreoffice. I remember something with sqlite in it. So it is possible that some tasks in Libreoffice are taken care of by external libraries. If so the LO rpm's are no longer complete in themselves, nor are their dependency lists corrected for the new situation. Does this make sense? Greetings, Erik. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening
On 3/12/2014 11:11 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Also wondering what the memory setting are like Tools - Options - Memory On most machines you can bump al those values right up. the defaults are for very low spec machines. I've always meant to open a bug to add an option to allow you to set these, rather than as a fixed number, as a percent of system/available RAM. Ok, done... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76118 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] brief mention of LO in an article about Office 365 vs. Google Apps
I sure did not like the bloated idea that looks to be read or implied to LibreOffice. Bloated, to me means it takes up a proportionally large amount of drive space. 1 to 2 GBs worth at least. Also bloated means that it is bloated with too many options that are not used by most of its market. I do not think LO will ever be bloated in either definition. Yes, our developers will increase the internal options and others will develop options that are added on through the Extension Manager. I think the idea of an extension-based add on of options is a great idea. That way the users can pick and choose which ones are wanted and not be told you are required to have all these options that you will never use. I do not think LO will ever be a one package of every user type of office suite that MSO tries to be. Yes, LO can do a lot of things that MSO can do, but do we really want to do everything they can do? NO, since that would be a waste of our developers' effort. Plus it would make improving LO a much more difficult task. MSO takes 1 to 3 years to come out with their next version. Mostly that is due to having to fix all the issues that a bloated package has every time you try to improve it. MSO 2010 and its ribbon menu system hampered my efforts to make a document quickly on a system that needed some documents made up and displayed. I did not have access to my laptop at that time. So, I agree the writer might not have known much about LO except it is a competitor to MSO. At least having competitor status is a good thing, but the idea that LO is as Bloated as MSO is not. On 03/12/2014 01:18 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: I am not sure the writer knows what they are talking about. One can describe office suites, whether local or cloud, as light, medium, and heavy. The light ones (Abiword) try to cover the major functionality required by users for modest documents but deliberately omit features many features. Light applications are often best suited for home and very small office users. Medium have more features but try to avoid having the very rare features that only a very few users will ever need or use. I think LO and AOO strive to be here, relatively feature rich without the many of the very rarely used features. Medium applications try to hit the sweet of excellent performance with a fairly rich feature set. Medium applications can be used by a large majority of users. Heavy applications have all the features included even if this sometimes hurts overall usability and performance. MS Office is best known heavy office suite. Also, some zdnet.com writers tend to shill for MS and will not admit that users are in the best position to judge their needs and often a non-MS solution is the overall best solution. Jay On 03/12/2014 09:34 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: http://www.zdnet.com/is-office-365-worth-spending-3x-more-than-on-google-apps-727225/ Is Office 365 worth spending 3x more than on Google Apps? Summary: Office 365 is three times the cost of Google Apps. It's worth it -- but probably not for the reason you expect... By Matt Baxter-Reynolds :quote: Continuum Office's competition has always been products that have tried to emulate Office's enormous bulk -- think LibreOffice in particular. Google Docs doesn't try to do that at all. It's a very minimal product. We know that Office is enormous. There is nothing that the entire product suite can't do. People often complain about it's labyrinthine complexity. Another way to look at that is that Microsoft has actually done a skilled job in masking that complexity. There's enough in there to drive even the most ardent power user crazy. :unquote: Here is my question - are we trying to emulate MSO's enormous bulk [of options]? I hope it is not though of as the bulk of hard drive space needed to install MSO vs. LO. I know that LO will not spend money on the server costs for a cloud based version of LO hosted by LO, but it was an interesting read that may be reflected into the development of LO for Android devices. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: No sound from Impress.
I now have LO 4.2.2 and everything works OK for.wav sound. There is still a problem with video .m4v as it will either lock up, causing a Forced Reset, or it opens in Writer as gobbledegook. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/No-sound-from-Impress-tp4100849p4101218.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] an update color standard.soc file available
As I stated in other posts, I have been working on adding colors to the default set that comes with the LO install. My current list of colors is now at 3965 color boxes. Yes, there are some duplicates, but I have kept them due to their color sequences. First in the list are the included colors, then I start off with some color shading, then some specific named colors like various Bronze, Gold, Silver, Ruby, Blue, and other colors. After that I have a list of colors that are sorted by hue and lightness from lightest to darkest. You can also say they are sorted from #FF down to #00, i.e. from white/lightest towards black/darkest colors. That is the reverse of the original listing of colors in a color sheet PDF. After that, I have the 99 shades of Gray and then a Pantone style of color list. I am looking at merging other color lists into the hue-base part of the listing. Of course, in 4.1.x line, the color boxes are smaller than what I have seen on the 4.2.x tests. Yes, for many people, that may be too many color choices. But for now, I am making a large list. Later on, I will look into making specific smaller lists of colors, maybe for specific tasks. That may happen this spring. Maybe have a LO set that includes the Crayola colors for the kids and the color shades for the adult artists. https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors/standard.soc---March-13-2014--3965-color-boxes-in-list.soc Next will be adding these two color sets [resene-2010 is a little different from the original] http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/resene.pdf http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/resene-2010.pdf to this one already in the color list http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/ntc.pdf by the way - printing these colors out, unless you have an expensive printer, will be much darker than what you see on the monitors. I have tried this and have not printed these PDF files to look light enough to match my monitor's default brightness. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] QA Call Reminder
Hi All - Public QA call details: *Date*: Monday, March 17, 2014 *Time*: 1830 UTC -- _note the change from previous calls _Looking forward to talking. Warm Regards, Joel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: cross references in footnotes
Hi :) It makes sense but when you install rpms there is an automatic checking procedure in most distros. Only ones such as Slackware expect you to sort out dependancies on your own. Mageia is a gateway distro and tries to make things as easy as possible for normal users. You can usually force most (probably all) package manager to fix broken dependancies. It's something worth doing occasionally but normally it's all handled really well automatically. Regards from Tom :) On 13 March 2014 11:06, Erik Jan ejvwaasd...@msn.com wrote: Tom Davies had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 12-03-14 16:04: Hi :) This wiki might help you post the bug-report https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Regards from Tom :) On 12 March 2014 12:51, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/2014, Erik Jan ejvwaasd...@msn.com wrote: I made a document in Libreoffice 4.2.1 Mageia 3 with a few cross references to other footnotes in the document. When I exported the document to pdf some of these references had changed. After saving the document and reopening it the references were still wrong. I tried to correct them, but in vain. I made new cross references, but these also were changed after saving and reopening the file. So I went back to 4.1.5 but the problem remained. Then I went back to 4.0.6. In this version the wrong references were right again. Looks like a bug, so please submit and confirm the bug number, so those interested can subscribe. Making references in word-processors is a well-known deficiency. Suggest you import the LOwriter odt file into LyX and produce your pdf in that program. In Mageia 3 I uninstalled Libreoffice version 3 and installed from Libreoffice.org the newest versions available. I did the same with Openoffice before Libreoffce was made. Never had any problem. Now I went back to Libreoffice 4.6 from Mageia itself and I noticed that in the dependency list there were several libraries not coming from Libreoffice. I remember something with sqlite in it. So it is possible that some tasks in Libreoffice are taken care of by external libraries. If so the LO rpm's are no longer complete in themselves, nor are their dependency lists corrected for the new situation. Does this make sense? Greetings, Erik. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: cross references in footnotes
Tom Davies had de volgende lumineuze gedachte op 13-03-14 16:08: Hi :) It makes sense but when you install rpms there is an automatic checking procedure in most distros. Only ones such as Slackware expect you to sort out dependancies on your own. Mageia is a gateway distro and tries to make things as easy as possible for normal users. You can usually force most (probably all) package manager to fix broken dependancies. It's something worth doing occasionally but normally it's all handled really well automatically. Regards from Tom :) If my suggestion is right, the bug is not in Libreoffice but in the packaging. I am unable to sort this out any further. So I shall not register a bug. Thank you for your speedy anwers. Erik -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] libreoffice4 not recognize Chinese document correctly.
Hi, libreoffice4 not recognize Chinese document correctly. Such attachments. thanks. == peter pang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
