Re: [libreoffice-users] Bullets Numbering

2014-03-22 Thread A


Thank you Kevin, Alex, Tom  Steve for responding.  Your suggestion 
works for the simple case just fine.


I suppose now I have a different yet very related question.  The 
document is more complex and I can't get it to work right.


Kevin, your articles are helpful, though I admit I skipped the first one.

For example:

1. Level One
a. Level Two
b.
c.
d.
e.
f.
g.
i. Level Three
ii.
h.
i.
j.
k.
2.
3.
4.
a.
b.
5.
etc.

I've tried various things, none of them will give me the above 
structure.  It refuses to number item 1h (or anything thereafter) 
properly.  Kevin, I read your article 2 and 3 which are very 
informative.  But I'm still unable to get it to behave.  It will do a 
variety of (mostly bizarre) things.  At various points it made the h 
an a, if I restart numbering, a b, if I continue the previous 
numbering an o for some reason, a bullet when I hit enter after g.ii., 
and absolutely nothing at one point.  Clearly I'm doing something wrong, 
but I'm at a loss as to determine what it is.


Thank you in advance for any helpful suggestions.
On 03/21/14 11:27, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

I have some detailed explanations here:

http://www.ahuka.com/?page_id=522
http://www.ahuka.com/?page_id=529
http://www.ahuka.com/?page_id=542

Regards,

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:39 AM, A publicf...@bak.rr.com wrote:

I see all manner of numbering schemes, but not the one I want.

I want:

1.
 a.
 b.
 c.
2.

etc.

Please note each one ends in a period (.) and that's what I'm looking for.

1.
 a) is not what I want.

(well, the person I'm trying to help doesn't want that).  It's for a legal
document.

Is it possible?  If so, how?

Thank you in advance.

- Andrew

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bullets Numbering

2014-03-22 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 22/03/14 10:07, A a écrit :

Hi,

 I've tried various things, none of them will give me the above
 structure.  It refuses to number item 1h (or anything thereafter)
 properly.  Kevin, I read your article 2 and 3 which are very
 informative.  But I'm still unable to get it to behave.  It will do a
 variety of (mostly bizarre) things.  At various points it made the h
 an a, if I restart numbering, a b, if I continue the previous
 numbering an o for some reason, a bullet when I hit enter after g.ii.,
 and absolutely nothing at one point.  Clearly I'm doing something wrong,
 but I'm at a loss as to determine what it is.

In the options tab of bullets and numbering :

- set Level 1 to use numbers;
- set Level 2 to use lower case letters;
- set Level 3 to use romanized lower case letters

When typing use return to add a new line with the same numbering level
style, and Tab to indent and switch to the numbering level style below.

Empty new lines seem to remove the numbering style settings.
Using Shift-Tab to move up a numbering style level doesn't work as
expected if you are on the last line of your document, it jumps two
levels up (I don't consider that to be normal behaviour, but maybe that
is how it is designed).

Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-22 Thread Dale Erwin

Using LibreOffice 4.1.5 on Win 7 home premium:

I have a master document with 50 sub-documents.  The problem I am having 
is that the sub-documents are not rendered the same way when opened 
separately as when opened in the master document.


This is a bilingual dictionary with an English-Neapolitan section and a 
Neapolitan-English section.  Each letter of each section is contained in 
its own sub-document.  For each letter, at the top of the page, on left 
(even numbered) pages, there appears the first word on the page, 
left-justified, in slightly larger font, and on right (odd numbered) 
pages, the last word on the page, right-justified and in slightly larger 
font.


This cannot be accomplished using headers since it must be different on 
each page.  Well, I suppose it could be accomplished using headers but 
it would require a separate style for every page in the nearly 400 page 
book.  Consequently, I have used the first line on each page for this 
purpose with the regular text pushed down and beginning on the fourth line.


This has a very aesthetically pleasing appearance in the sub-documents, 
but in the master document the line spacing is obviously not rendered in 
the same way so that on some pages in the master document, the first 
line will be what was the last line in the previous page of the 
sub-document, pushing the headline word down... and obviously unusable.


Is there some reason why the master document does not render the 
sub-documents in the same was as they are rendered when opened separately?


Dale Erwin

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bullets Numbering

2014-03-22 Thread Tim Deaton

On 3/22/2014 9:17 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 22/03/14 10:07, A a écrit :

Hi,


I've tried various things, none of them will give me the above
structure.  It refuses to number item 1h (or anything thereafter)
properly.  Kevin, I read your article 2 and 3 which are very
informative.  But I'm still unable to get it to behave.  It will do a
variety of (mostly bizarre) things.  At various points it made the h
an a, if I restart numbering, a b, if I continue the previous
numbering an o for some reason, a bullet when I hit enter after g.ii.,
and absolutely nothing at one point.  Clearly I'm doing something wrong,
but I'm at a loss as to determine what it is.

In the options tab of bullets and numbering :

- set Level 1 to use numbers;
- set Level 2 to use lower case letters;
- set Level 3 to use romanized lower case letters

When typing use return to add a new line with the same numbering level
style, and Tab to indent and switch to the numbering level style below.

Empty new lines seem to remove the numbering style settings.
Using Shift-Tab to move up a numbering style level doesn't work as
expected if you are on the last line of your document, it jumps two
levels up (I don't consider that to be normal behaviour, but maybe that
is how it is designed).

Alex


If I want an empty new line WITHOUT changing the level I'm on, and 
without giving a bullet or number to that empty line, then I create 
the empty line by typing [ctrl]-[enter] at the end of the previous line.


Also, in the Formatting toolbar, the Decrease Indent (or 
[ctrl]-[alt]-[left arrow]) and Increase Indent (or [ctrl]-[alt]-[right 
arrow]) icons are helpful.


Hope this helps,
Tim Deaton

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Re: [libreoffice-users] stop automatic scrolling

2014-03-22 Thread Tim Deaton
I suspect that this is a feature of the mouse driver, and that it works 
in a variety of programs.


I have noticed that when scrolling up or down thru a document using the 
scroll-wheel of the mouse.  Something I do turns on an 'automated' 
scroll.  I'll notice a new symbol on the screen (light blue and 
transparent, if I remember correctly).  If I move the mouse pointer to 
be horizontal with that symbol, the scrolling will stop.  If I move the 
pointer above the symbol, the document will scroll toward the top.  If I 
move the pointer below it, then the document will scroll toward the bottom.


If I remember correctly, hitting [esc] will kill this 'automated' scroll.

-- Tim Deaton
===


On 3/21/2014 5:10 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:

Greetings,
I am not sure this is a LibreOffice problem.  I have seen it in other 
applications, such as Firefox as well.  I think it is an unstable 
mouse or mouse driver effect.  I noticed it usually occurs when I am 
hovering the mouse cursor in the vertical scroll bar.  I found that 
clicking somewhere in the vertical scroll bar usually stops it.  I 
haven't seen it lately, but then maybe I stopped hovering the mouse 
cursor in the vertical scroll bar.

Girvin Herr


On 03/21/2014 03:24 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Have you tried renaming your User Profile yet?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

That often fixes weird things that shouldn't happen = particularly if
they haven't always happened and just started mysteriously one day for
no apparent reason (perhaps after adding a new Extension)
Regards from
Tom :)



On 21 March 2014 09:59, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote:

Good evening
Probably this is a stupid question, but ...
I noticed time and again, that LO starts scrolling and cannot be
stopped, until the end of the file is reached,
when I click below the blue rectacle on the right side scroll bar in
order to get just a little further down.

I have been looking, and searching the help documentation for 
automatic

scrolling (or similar expressions), but
could not find yet the trick to make LO stop this. (it is really
annoying, when you are taken to place you don't want to go to)

How do you stop, or customize, this behavior.

Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] stop automatic scrolling

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I had forgotten but i've had this in the dimdistant past too but it's
usually been a hardware/hygiene issue.

To solve tons of these sorts of irritations i've had success doing
things such as unplugging the mouse and then plugging it back in again
(sometimes to a different usb-port), cleaning the mouse (or surface of
the track-pad) and the mouse-pad (or chucking it and using the
table-top instead until that gets dirty too), rebooting the machine
(this one has obviously been tried).  Running standard update
procedure for which-ever OS.  Even once or twice updating drivers for
the Human Interface Device (ie, mouse) (errr, only in Windows
because other OSes automatically update drivers as part of the
standard update).  I've even completely dismantled a few mice
(mouses?), even optical ones (when unplugged jic) and been amazed at
the weird gunk inside.

With keyboards it's a good idea to shake them upside-down but avoid
being under it as the shower of paper-clips (even tho i've not used
any nor been anywhere near paper-clips for about a decade they still
seem to appear), crumbs, weird dust, hairs that don't even look human
(hopefully).  I've even dismantled a few and thoroughly cleaned but
then been unable to get the space-bar back in (isn't that where
astronauts drink?).

Anti-bac wipes across keyboards and mices surfaces shouldn't hurt much
either, right?

At client's or colleagues desks i just plug in a 'new' one, check it
works and take the old one away to clean it (or bin it) out-of-sight.

Not possible for a track-pad obviously!  For them a wipe with a dryish
damp cloth and then one of those cotton buds (that shouldn't be used
for cleaning ears) to twizzle around the edges.

I tend to see all this as fairly routine maintenance (ie to be avoided
at all costs until it's too late and i regret not doing it all
earlier).  Even the cleanest and most hygienic people shed skin over
the years, plus skins have natural oils to protect against all-sorts


@ Dan Hall, please post as a fresh new question.  Actually the
international translators occasionally solve this problem quite often
for people.  Generally it's due to things like the regionalisation of
the Operating System mis-matching the language installed with
LibreOffice or
Tools - Options - Language Settings
not having the correct language selected.  Sometimes the correct
dictionaries are not installed on the OS so there's nothing for LO to
grab onto.  Most of these sorts of things are more likely in Windows
but they occasionally happen in other OSes too.  Please let people
know which OS (Xp, right?) when you post the fresh new question.
Really kind of the shop to set it up wrong and then sell you more
stuff!  Around where i live therre are tons of shops but only 2 i
trust as almost all the others have shafted me over the years.  Pc
World seems to be the worst although Currys/Dixons were appalling the
one time a client used them (and apparently ripped of tons of other
people over the whole Sony Vaio case too).  The 2 i trust are small
independent businesses that actually deliver more than they promise.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 21 March 2014 23:48, Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net wrote:
 I have also noticed this in various programs.  Clicking in the scroll bar
 does stop it, and I haven't had it scroll past where the cursor is (if it's
 still in the scroll bar).  This is primarily in newer versions of software,
 and my suspicion is that it's related to programming for mobile devices or
 tablets.  I do have one application where clicking in the scroll bar causes
 the list to jump to the point where the click was done; I'll see if the
 developers can tell me whether there's any correlation.

 Dave Liesse



 On 3/21/2014 14:10, Girvin Herr wrote:

 Greetings,
 I am not sure this is a LibreOffice problem.  I have seen it in other
 applications, such as Firefox as well.  I think it is an unstable mouse or
 mouse driver effect.  I noticed it usually occurs when I am hovering the
 mouse cursor in the vertical scroll bar.  I found that clicking somewhere in
 the vertical scroll bar usually stops it.  I haven't seen it lately, but
 then maybe I stopped hovering the mouse cursor in the vertical scroll bar.
 Girvin Herr


 On 03/21/2014 03:24 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Have you tried renaming your User Profile yet?
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

 That often fixes weird things that shouldn't happen = particularly if
 they haven't always happened and just started mysteriously one day for
 no apparent reason (perhaps after adding a new Extension)
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 21 March 2014 09:59, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote:

 Good evening
 Probably this is a stupid question, but ...
 I noticed time and again, that LO starts scrolling and cannot be
 stopped, until the end of the file is reached,
 when I click below the blue rectacle on the right side scroll bar in
 order to get just a little further down.

 I have been 

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Document Freedom Day - March 26th

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Talking of file formats ...
Regards from
Tom :)


On 22 March 2014 10:20, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Immanuel Giulea
 giulea.imman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hanover, NH is within driving range for me from Montreal.


 Updated blurb (now with time and location):

 ---

 For all of you interested in open standards and FOSS, LibreOffice will
 be hosting a lunch meetup noon on Saturday, March 29th at Ramunto's in
 Hanover. We'll be celebrating Document Freedom Day (DFD) and talking
 about what we can do to encourage the use of open formats by local
 government and schools.

 For more details, please see the event page here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Document_Freedom_Day/USA/New_Hampshire

 RSVP appreciated (so I can plan numbers accordingly :-)

 Cheers,
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