[libreoffice-users] docx table lines do not show

2011-02-15 Thread John King
Libreoffice 3.3 on both Ubuntu 10.10 and Windows XP .

I have received several docx files containing tables which do not display 
correctly in Libreoffice.

The outline of the table cells is visible on the page, but the lines 
themselves do not appear in print preview or when printed.  The border style 
is displayed as 'none', even though there is a border in the original word2007 
document.

The same thing happens in openoffice.org 3.2.1, but the lines display 
correctly in openoffice 3.3.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug in New Labels wizard?

2011-02-15 Thread Michael Crider
An update on this bug. I am now running the final 3.3 release of 
LibreOffice from the Ubuntu PPA (so I don't know if what I am seeing 
applies to the packages from libreoffice.org). The database list in the 
Label wizard is now mostly alphabatized, except names starting with 
lowercase letters are listed after all uppercase letters. All other 
lists of data sources mixes lowercase and uppercase names.


On 01/07/2011 04:19 PM, Michael Crider wrote:
When you choose File - New - Labels, there is a drop down menu with 
a list of Databases. I have not been able to figure out what order the 
databases are in. Every other list of databases I have run across in 
LibreOffice is in alphabetical order (which hasn't always been true in 
OpenOffice.org). This is the only one I have found that has its own 
ordering scheme.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Matthew Young

Hello,

I have a link for the image : 
http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png




Matthew


On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Yes, sadly attachments don't make it to the list so somewhere like imageshack
might be good to post the document.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Luukluu...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 14:49:37
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

On 15-02-11 15:39, Matthew Young wrote:

Hello,

I need to put a box around text and make the first letter larger than
the rest.

I have attached a screenshot of what needs to be done in Writer (the
original was in Word). I have looked and looked but I cannot seem to
find how to do that in Writer.


Please help.


Matthew


Insert/Frame
On the 5th tab you can set the border.

To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
the font-size

or do you mean something completly different, because i cannot see the
screenshot because attachments dont make it to this list.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
On 15-02-11 16:07, Matthew Young wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a link for the image :
 http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png



 Matthew


 On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Insert/Frame
 On the 5th tab you can set the border.

 To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
 the font-size


And you also read the above lines? or did you overlook them?

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[libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
Hi,

When replying to a message on this list,
What is the best method when talking abot quoting?
Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of
the story.

Luuk

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Matthew Young
I read them, and I *think* I can use another frame for the first letter. 
Thanks for the help!



On 02/15/2011 09:10 AM, Luuk wrote:

On 15-02-11 16:07, Matthew Young wrote:

Hello,

I have a link for the image :
http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png



Matthew


On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Insert/Frame
On the 5th tab you can set the border.

To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
the font-size

And you also read the above lines? or did you overlook them?




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[libreoffice-users] Re: How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
http://q.xs4all.nl/Example.odt;)

On 15-02-11 16:13, Matthew Young wrote:
 I read them, and I *think* I can use another frame for the first letter.
 Thanks for the help!
 
 
 On 02/15/2011 09:10 AM, Luuk wrote:
 On 15-02-11 16:07, Matthew Young wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a link for the image :
 http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png



 Matthew


 On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Insert/Frame
 On the 5th tab you can set the border.

 To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
 the font-size
 And you also read the above lines? or did you overlook them?

 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Luuk,

Am 15.02.2011 16:13, schrieb Luuk:

 When replying to a message on this list,
 What is the best method when talking abot quoting?
 Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of
 the story.

Please refer to this:

http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Thank you! :-)

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/02/11 15:15, Matthew Young wrote:

Hi,

I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the 
text right on top.




No it doesn't - I'm using TBird and it's set to bottom post.
Do you read a book from the bottom up?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Andy Brown

Matthew Young wrote:

Hello,

I need to put a box around text and make the first letter larger than
the rest.

I have attached a screenshot of what needs to be done in Writer (the
original was in Word). I have looked and looked but I cannot seem to
find how to do that in Writer.


Please help.


Matthew



Use the frame that has been suggested.  Then under Format- Paragraph 
select the Drop Cap tab to set the first character to what ever size you 
like.  It would be best to create a style for the paragraphs that you 
wish to use in this fashion and use it to set the style instead of the 
direct formatting as you can make changes to all paragraphs at one time 
if the need be.


HTH

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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Colin J. Williams



On 15-Feb-11 10:13 AM, Luuk wrote:

Hi,

When replying to a message on this list,
What is the best method when talking abot quoting?
Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of
the story.

Luuk


+1

It would be better if this were set up as a USENET Group.

Colin W.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
top-quoting fixed

On 15-02-11 16:15, Matthew Young wrote:
 On 02/15/2011 09:13 AM, Luuk wrote:
 Hi,

 When replying to a message on this list,
 What is the best method when talking abot quoting?
 Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of
 the story.

 Luuk

 Hi,

 I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the
 text right on top.

 Matthew



No, they dont, you can configure that ...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
On 15-02-11 17:00, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi,

 Matthew Young wrote (15-02-11 16:15)
 I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the
 text right on top.

 When you hit the space bar, Thunderbird scrolls down in the text of
 the message..

no, i get a message
Advance to next unread message in?


 Shift-Tab the opposite direction - of course.
You mean 'Shift-space'...


 Cor




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[libreoffice-users] activated quickstarter on ubuntu

2011-02-15 Thread jcg

Hi,
When the quickstarter of libreOffice is activated it prevents the shutdown
of ubuntu. this is also true for ooo and it's a well known reported bug
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027)!!
I found a solution (I don't remember on which forum) for ooo by mean of this
command line :
sudo sed -i '5s|true|false|g'
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.*/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Recovery.xcu
 

Of course this solution doesn't work for Libreoffice... I don't find the
similar file and thus fix the problem.

First, I don'understand the action of this command line. Some help ?
Second, on which file should I apply this commande line?

Other simple solution for this bug ?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] activated quickstarter on ubuntu

2011-02-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I find that using the quick starter part of OOo mad for difficulty with the
Update Manager with updating OOo from their repository.  So I never
used it.  So I decided that it was not something I was going to activate
in LibreOffice.

If it caused trouble updating some of the item that came from the
repository, including some of the extensions in the repository, then
it was not something that should be kept active.

I find that LibreOffice starts up very quickly and takes only a few
seconds from the time I click on the icon to the time I can use it.
So is it a real advantage of having the quick starter option active
over some of the issues I have seen with Ubuntu.  I do remember
needing to deactivate it when I was dealing with Windows, when I
needed to do some optional updating.

On 02/15/2011 11:50 AM, jcg wrote:

Hi,
When the quickstarter of libreOffice is activated it prevents the shutdown
of ubuntu. this is also true for ooo and it's a well known reported bug
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027)!!
I found a solution (I don't remember on which forum) for ooo by mean of this
command line :
sudo sed -i '5s|true|false|g'
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.*/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Recovery.xcu

Of course this solution doesn't work for Libreoffice... I don't find the
similar file and thus fix the problem.

First, I don'understand the action of this command line. Some help ?
Second, on which file should I apply this commande line?

Other simple solution for this bug ?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

The lines written under my name were not written by me.  Some geeky users might 
notice that my name is on a single  while the sentences following my name are 
on a double  so again we see people editing previous emails in the thread and 
unintentionally altering the message.  This time it is harmless and even 
flattering.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 15:10:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

On 15-02-11 16:07, Matthew Young wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a link for the image :
 http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png



 Matthew


 On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Insert/Frame
 On the 5th tab you can set the border.

 To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
 the font-size


And you also read the above lines? or did you overlook them?

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[libreoffice-users] Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

Ubuntu 10.04
I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the 
integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO doesn't 
have that).

I now want to replace that version of OO with LO.
I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO 
first...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Luuk,

Luuk wrote (15-02-11 17:06)

On 15-02-11 17:00, Cor Nouws wrote:

Matthew Young wrote (15-02-11 16:15)

I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the
text right on top.


When you hit the space bar, Thunderbird scrolls down in the text of
the message..


no, i get a message
Advance to next unread message in?


Yes, that is correct for a short text message. But try this one :-)


Shift-Tab the opposite direction - of course.

You mean 'Shift-space'...


Oops, of course. Apologies :-)





more ...





more 





more ...





more 


does space work up to here?

If not, there must be some hidden config ;-)

Ciao - Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
On 15-02-11 19:13, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 Ubuntu 10.04
 I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the
 integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO
 doesn't have that).
 I now want to replace that version of OO with LO.
 I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO
 first...


The info is on their help pages, and did not change since version 7.04

https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/add-applications/C/advanced.html

so, form a commandline you can type:

$ sudo apt-get remove /package

'package' should be replace by the name of the openoffice package, see the link 
for more info... ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 15 February 2011 09:15, Matthew Young rs.matthewcom.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the text
 right on top.

Clients which top-quote (thanks to M$'s Outlook which started the
trend) are fundamentally broken.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How can I do this in Writer?

2011-02-15 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2011/02/15 12:05 PM  Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

The lines written under my name were not written by me.  Some geeky users might
notice that my name is on a single  while the sentences following my name are
on a double  so again we see people editing previous emails in the thread and
unintentionally altering the message.  This time it is harmless and even
flattering.
The problem is caused by the client you are using for email. It is not indicating the lines 
quoted from the mesage being replied to. It is not caused by the editing of previous emails.




From: Luukluu...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 15:10:56
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I do this in Writer?

On 15-02-11 16:07, Matthew Young wrote:

Hello,

I have a link for the image :
http://www.matthewcom.info/OrangeFiles/NeedsToBeDoneinWriter.png



Matthew


On 02/15/2011 08:54 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Insert/Frame
On the 5th tab you can set the border.

To make the first letter large than the rest, is possible by changing
the font-size

And you also read the above lines? or did you overlook them?


This last line appears to be from you even though it isn't. There are no indications it is in 
the message being responded to. Please configure your email client properly


Larry
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[libreoffice-users] Re: top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2011/02/15 11:38 AM  Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email)  posts at the
top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along with any
signatures.
clip /

Please fix the quoting in your email client. The above was written by you.



From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl
clip /

Matthew Young wrote (15-02-11 16:15)

I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the
text right on top.

When you hit the space bar, Thunderbird scrolls down in the text of the
message..
Shift-Tab the opposite direction - of course.

Cor
The above section starting with When you hit the space bar also appears to be from you as 
well since there is no quote attribution. It is obviously from Cor, but if he had not signed it 
I would assume you wrote it.


Larry
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Re: [libreoffice-users] activated quickstarter on ubuntu

2011-02-15 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:17 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 I find that LibreOffice starts up very quickly and takes only a few
 seconds from the time I click on the icon to the time I can use it.
 So is it a real advantage of having the quick starter option active
 over some of the issues I have seen with Ubuntu.  I do remember
 needing to deactivate it when I was dealing with Windows, when I
 needed to do some optional updating.


I routinely keep at least one LO window open (and minimized) whenever
I am logged on and want a fast response from LO when opening another
doc.  This worked well enough for me that the quickstarter was not an
issue until I tried to use it, and then it caused problems, so I
don't.

If I had the time, I'd play with QS to see what it does that is so
annoying and find a way to defeat that.  I find it much simpler just
not to use it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-15 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 15-02-11 19:13, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 Ubuntu 10.04
 I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the
 integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO
 doesn't have that).
 I now want to replace that version of OO with LO.
 I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO
 first...

 The info is on their help pages, and did not change since version 7.04

 https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/add-applications/C/advanced.html

 so, form a commandline you can type:

 $ sudo apt-get remove /package

 'package' should be replace by the name of the openoffice package, see the 
 link for more info... ;)


It is simpler and more thorough to use synaptic for this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:38:16PM +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email)  posts at 
 the 
 top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along with any 
 signatures.  Some corporate users get all the previous thread deleted off the 
 bottom and a disclaimer added to the bottom.  So, at best they stick with the 
 defaults, the easiest thing.  
 
 
 The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office 
 users?  
 Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users?

Is there something wrong with educating new users?  

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-15 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 10:13 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 Ubuntu 10.04
 I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the 
 integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO doesn't 
 have that).
 I now want to replace that version of OO with LO.
 I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO 
 first...
 

Unless you are pressed for disk space why not just keep it so that you
can compare if you wish? LO (from libreoffice.org) and OOo (from
openoffice.org) will happily coexist as they are both installed in the
/opt folders. If not, just use synaptic.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: activated quickstarter on ubuntu

2011-02-15 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 08:50 AM, jcg wrote:
 
 Hi,
 When the quickstarter of libreOffice is activated it prevents the shutdown
 of ubuntu. this is also true for ooo and it's a well known reported bug
 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027)!!

You must be using LO from the PPA. LO from documentfoundation.org works
just fine, as does OOo from openoffice.org. Note comment #84 in that bug
report.

 I found a solution (I don't remember on which forum) for ooo by mean of this
 command line :
 sudo sed -i '5s|true|false|g'
 /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.*/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Recovery.xcu
  

That's not a solution; it turns off recovery.

 
 Of course this solution doesn't work for Libreoffice... I don't find the
 similar file and thus fix the problem.

Download  install the .deb (don't forget to add the help file) from:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download
and install. Unless of course you are troubleshooting and/or into
debugging the Ubuntu PPA version :-)
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bug in New Labels wizard?

2011-02-15 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 06:03 AM, Michael Crider wrote:
 An update on this bug. I am now running the final 3.3 release of 
 LibreOffice from the Ubuntu PPA (so I don't know if what I am seeing 
 applies to the packages from libreoffice.org). The database list in the 
 Label wizard is now mostly alphabatized, except names starting with 
 lowercase letters are listed after all uppercase letters. All other 
 lists of data sources mixes lowercase and uppercase names.
...
Can you post a screenshot somewhere? Perhaps http://imageshack.us/ ?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-15 19:36, MR ZenWiz a écrit :

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Robert Holtzmanhol...@cox.net  wrote:
:


Is there something wrong with educating new users?



Only that it takes some effort, like bottom posting, being courteous,
keeping logical threads, posting only what needs to be posted and so
on.

IOW, too much work for the lazy.



IMO, as we are many on the list helping, there will always be someone 
here to help educating new users. This is what a user help list is all 
about. Better to educate than to keep them in the dark.


Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-15 Thread plino

I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie.

I was trying to install Libreoffice under Ubuntu Netbook Edition 9.10 (the
only version that has drivers for my eeePC netbook) following these
instructions
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/new-ppa-makes-installing-libreoffice-on-ubuntu-easy/

But got this error messages
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install libreoffice 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release.gpg

Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release.gpg 

Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic Release 
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release.gpg  
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release 
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages  
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/restricted Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/multiverse Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Sources
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/restricted Sources
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
  404  Not Found
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/restricted Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/multiverse Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/universe Packages
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Sources
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/restricted Sources
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 
404  Not Found

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used instead.


I suppose this means there is a specific build for Karmic (something similar
as a specific build for Windows 2000) but not all needed files are available
for that specific OS version?

Thank you in advance for any help ;)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-15 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie.

Not uncommmon.

:
 W: Failed to fetch
 http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 404  Not Found


I'm guessing that you don't have that ppa installed, and I'm not sure
if it is available via ppa on Karmic.  Try downloading and installing
from the documentfoundation.org - that works nicely.

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