[libreoffice-users] Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
I previously posted http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Pasting-plain-text-into-Calc-changes-row-height-and-undo-doesn-t-revert-td4086328.html about an issue with row height, but the problem is even more basic than I realized at the time. Pasting isn't required at all to trigger it. This is still in a vanilla install of LibreOffice v 4.1.3.2 installed via PortableApps.com in Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Create a new spreadsheet. Already there's a problem: row #1 has height 0.17 with Default value unchecked. All other rows (presumably) have height 0.18 with Default value checked. You can now perform one of a variety of innocuous operations and the row height inexplicably changes. Examples: * Enter a character, say x, in cell A2 and press Enter. Row height is unchanged. Enter the same character in cell A2 and press Enter again. Row height is unchanged. Perform an Undo operation (reverting A2 content from x to x) -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. * Select cell A3, and click Format Change Case lowercase -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. I'm sure there are many more examples. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I use a listbox to query database
Hi :) The simple answer is Yes for most of it but for the last question there it's No (because you are not asking too much). The detailed answer from Michael kinda assumes you are somewhat familiar with spreadsheets. Spreadsheets are flat and many fields/cells contain identical data. For example if one of your most prolific presenters is called Firdausi then you would have a lot of repetitions of her name. Any mis-spellings or typos would result in one or more lines missing when you searched for the presentations she could do. A database can be relational rather than flat. You would have 2 or more tables. Each row would have a unique identifier, called an ID which is normally generated automatically. One of your tables, or a separate one would link the tables together. Lets say you had 1 table called Names and 1 called Topics (ie keeping names short and simple to help humans do redesigning in the future). Lets assume you have additional tables such as Address and Venue but lets kinda just ignore those. Now the topics table might have headings such as; ID= an automatically generated and reasonably small whole number (you are unlikely to need 12 digits in here!) Title= text-field, probably under 256 characters Description = text-field, avoid setting limits here in order to avoid problems in the future. If users disobey the 3 keywords rule you kinda need the system to be fail-safe. Person = Name.ID = small whole number but this value is set by the list-box rather than being generated automatically The Names table might have headings/fields such as; ID = auto-generated small(ish) whole number again Name1st = text-field under 256 characters NameLast = text-field under 256 characters Address = Address.ID Now the relationship between those 2 tables is that the ID field in the Names table is a 1-to-1 relationship with the Person field in the Topics table. However between the Names and the Address tables you would probably have a many to one relationship because you might have 2 or 3 different people all at the same address. Actually my brain is a bit fried and it might also be a 1-to-1 because it looks like we might have neatly dodged that extra complication. Anyway, the point is that you can have different tables, with different relationships between them. The normal users see none of that. It's only the database designers who get that level of detail (unless you are using MS Access in which case it's tricky to avoid normal users stumbling into designers turf and accidentally make a horrible mess and even break things without having a clue what they did and thus being completely useless at helping give enough information to help fix the problem). With Base normal users could just be seeing familiar Writer documents. These are really Forms or Reports. Normal users can change the formatting and wording and shift things around. The documents might have drop-downs to help them move between different topics or presenters, or venues or addresses. You set what normal users have access to. Really clever ones might figure out how to access more fields, in which case 'promote' those rare individuals to help design new documents for other things Data-entry people would need to go into Base and probably use something that looks a lot like a Calc spreadsheet (but with drop-downs). They might tumble into designer turf but are likely to be smart enough to know to go get help or to be able to get back into their own area and rescue themselves with a click or 2. Designers seldom need to see the data itself but just work with the headings, tables layouts, relationships and maybe help set-up forms and reports for normal users in Writer. So, with Base (unlike MS Access) each level of people involved can get on with just the area they are good at. They don't need to get involved in the complexities of anyone else's role, for the most part. Also you can see that while flat spreadsheets can get very large very quickly and has a high potential for breakages and problems the typical database stays much smaller and is thus usually a lot faster and smoother. Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 06:22, Michael Manning michaelgmann...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, Can I make the suggestion that you use 3 tables - one for the presenters, one for the presentations, and one for the topics. You may need another one but we will get to that in a minute. I am suggesting a separate table for presenters as one presenter may make a number of presentations over time and so you will not have to repeat data in the tables - one of the rules of data normalisation. Each presentation will also link to a number of topics. It is possible to setup the tables so that each presentation can link to any number of topics. The structure outlined above will waste database space if there are fewer than 3 topics assigned and will have a problem if you wish to assign
[libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3
Hi ALL, As appraised to you all I am an ordinary computer user limited to word, excel ppt. But an ardent fan supporter of LIBRE OFFICE. Was till now using LO 3.?.? not sur eof the succeeding digits. Recently downloaded 4.1.3 but am facing lot of problems with it: Hangs for no good reason - almost at par with MS Office with VISTA got a pdf file converted to word online the resultant was .rtf LO 4 would open it in .odt allow me to save it in .odt but when I try to open the LO file I receive an error msg box: Libre Office 4.1.3.2X RedRead-Error. Circle Error reading file. OK Have tried it several times but to the same result. I feel LO 4.1.3.2 needs some time before novices like can use it. What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? I do not want to first uninstal LO 4.1.3.2 then install LO 3.5.7 is this possible? or will there be a down time i.e. uninstall LO 4.1.3.2 then download LO 3.5.7 then install it? Kindly suggest thanks regards kunwar --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
Hi :) I don't know what is happening there. None of my rows change heights. All start at 0.42cm and stay that way with the default font. Admittedly i am not on WIn7 but i don't think i've had the problem in Xp or Win7 either. E, i don't think i'm on 4.1.x either Did you try renaming your User Profile? Have you tried a different branch of LibreOffice, say the 4.0.3? Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 12:41, whatever document-foundation-mailing-l...@jessemccarthy.net wrote: I previously posted http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Pasting-plain-text-into-Calc-changes-row-height-and-undo-doesn-t-revert-td4086328.html about an issue with row height, but the problem is even more basic than I realized at the time. Pasting isn't required at all to trigger it. This is still in a vanilla install of LibreOffice v 4.1.3.2 installed via PortableApps.com in Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Create a new spreadsheet. Already there's a problem: row #1 has height 0.17 with Default value unchecked. All other rows (presumably) have height 0.18 with Default value checked. You can now perform one of a variety of innocuous operations and the row height inexplicably changes. Examples: * Enter a character, say x, in cell A2 and press Enter. Row height is unchanged. Enter the same character in cell A2 and press Enter again. Row height is unchanged. Perform an Undo operation (reverting A2 content from x to x) -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. * Select cell A3, and click Format Change Case lowercase -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. I'm sure there are many more examples. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can I use a listbox to query database
Hi :) Ooops! I meant to stop at the end of the 1st paragraph there! It seems Mike and i disagree on a few points. 1. I try to get names of things as different as possible for the sake of clarity. At 3am after 12 cups of coffee the eye can sometimes skate over the difference between presentations and presentor especially if you have to adjust the size of columns each time to see the last few letters. 2. The use of the word topics. I was thinking of each presentation being only about 1 topic. Then i stumbled into the problem of not having a name for what the 3 keywords are for. Michael uses the word more correctly imo. 3. I tend to group similar thing togather, so use fields such as Name1st (well, i use Nm1st) and NameLst. However if the table is called Name then headings such as 1st and Last would be seen in Forms, Reports and Queries as Name.1st, Name.Lst anyway 4. I got muddled about the different relationships and i'm fairly sure i was wrong there 5. In the examples i gave i just kept the ID heading short but Mike's way is better even if i think those headings are t long and too similar. It's better to have a little clue as to which tables these similar things belong to. In my defence i'd say that it doesn't really matter but again the 12 cups of coffee issue comes into play. Clarity helps. Actually none of these or similar disagreements really matters, except point 4. It just shows there are slightly different ways of doing things or ways of saying things but both of us had much the same approach. Mike went for using an additional table to pull the relationships together whereas i took a short-cut and used an existing table. Mike's way is better. Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 12:01, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) The simple answer is Yes for most of it but for the last question there it's No (because you are not asking too much). The detailed answer from Michael kinda assumes you are somewhat familiar with spreadsheets. Spreadsheets are flat and many fields/cells contain identical data. For example if one of your most prolific presenters is called Firdausi then you would have a lot of repetitions of her name. Any mis-spellings or typos would result in one or more lines missing when you searched for the presentations she could do. A database can be relational rather than flat. You would have 2 or more tables. Each row would have a unique identifier, called an ID which is normally generated automatically. One of your tables, or a separate one would link the tables together. Lets say you had 1 table called Names and 1 called Topics (ie keeping names short and simple to help humans do redesigning in the future). Lets assume you have additional tables such as Address and Venue but lets kinda just ignore those. Now the topics table might have headings such as; ID= an automatically generated and reasonably small whole number (you are unlikely to need 12 digits in here!) Title= text-field, probably under 256 characters Description = text-field, avoid setting limits here in order to avoid problems in the future. If users disobey the 3 keywords rule you kinda need the system to be fail-safe. Person = Name.ID = small whole number but this value is set by the list-box rather than being generated automatically The Names table might have headings/fields such as; ID = auto-generated small(ish) whole number again Name1st = text-field under 256 characters NameLast = text-field under 256 characters Address = Address.ID Now the relationship between those 2 tables is that the ID field in the Names table is a 1-to-1 relationship with the Person field in the Topics table. However between the Names and the Address tables you would probably have a many to one relationship because you might have 2 or 3 different people all at the same address. Actually my brain is a bit fried and it might also be a 1-to-1 because it looks like we might have neatly dodged that extra complication. Anyway, the point is that you can have different tables, with different relationships between them. The normal users see none of that. It's only the database designers who get that level of detail (unless you are using MS Access in which case it's tricky to avoid normal users stumbling into designers turf and accidentally make a horrible mess and even break things without having a clue what they did and thus being completely useless at helping give enough information to help fix the problem). With Base normal users could just be seeing familiar Writer documents. These are really Forms or Reports. Normal users can change the formatting and wording and shift things around. The documents might have drop-downs to help them move between different topics or presenters, or venues or addresses. You set what normal users have access to. Really clever ones might figure out how to
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs
Hi :) Font files are fairly small and deleting one, even one that you never appear to use, could have fairly dire consequences in Windows (people have tried it before). So it's better to keep them. Windows comes loaded with many proprietary fonts with weird copyright restrictions. Ubuntu therefore uses ones that have copyleft licenses (= permissive copyright that don't restrict usage) fonts. You can probably google it (or duck-duck-go or other search engine it) to find those fonts and install them on Vista fairly easily. I think you have to drag them into the C;/Windows/fonts folder. Just out of curiosity why go from Ubuntu to the currently worst version of Windows? (hmm, some would say Win8 is worse but both are clearly fighting for last place). Since they have just stopped selling Win7 i would guess they stopped selling Vista ages ago and it's end-of-life might even have happened already. Xp is still supported (although not for long) and Win7 doesn't stop being supported until next year. Errr, you don't have to answer, it's more of a rhetorical question tbh. We all get forced into things we don't want to do sometimes or find the best choice we have is a bad one. Regards from Tom :) On 11 December 2013 22:11, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I just installed LO 4.1 on my win vista laptop. the font I normally use on my desktops (ubuntu 13.10) is freesans. There is no freesans in the font list. Is this a 'windows thing'? How large (in K) are each font file (I'm sure they vary somewhat)? How do I delete the ones that I will never use? During the install, I saw a message saying that the install program was deleting backup files. Are these files that were created during the install process, LO files from the previous version, or MY BACKUP FILES?? :) John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
I don't see Default value anywhere on my sheet. Where do you see it? On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, whatever document-foundation-mailing-l...@jessemccarthy.net wrote: I previously posted http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Pasting-plain-text-into-Calc-changes-row-height-and-undo-doesn-t-revert-td4086328.html about an issue with row height, but the problem is even more basic than I realized at the time. Pasting isn't required at all to trigger it. This is still in a vanilla install of LibreOffice v 4.1.3.2 installed via PortableApps.com in Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Create a new spreadsheet. Already there's a problem: row #1 has height 0.17 with Default value unchecked. All other rows (presumably) have height 0.18 with Default value checked. You can now perform one of a variety of innocuous operations and the row height inexplicably changes. Examples: * Enter a character, say x, in cell A2 and press Enter. Row height is unchanged. Enter the same character in cell A2 and press Enter again. Row height is unchanged. Perform an Undo operation (reverting A2 content from x to x) -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. * Select cell A3, and click Format Change Case lowercase -- row height changes to 0.17 with Default value unchecked. I'm sure there are many more examples. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar Shivpal Singh: What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? Kunwar, if it is of interest for you: you can install both versions in parallel - see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office ole automation
Hi, thank you all for reaction. I see that this is not a trivial problem - we will search further. best Milos Dňa 2013-12-11 15:07, Paul wrote / napísal(a): Hi, The OP said the system uses OLE automation, which requires MSO to be installed to work. Even though the created files can be imported into LO, I gather the OP wants to remove the dependency on MSO completely. As far as I know, this won't be possible at all; some sort of workaround will be required. It's been a while since I last looked at OLE and COM, and I can't remember all the differences between them, but I understand that the relevant OLE components (are they servers, like with COM? I forget.) are installed with MSO, and while LO may provide equivalents, I highly doubt they will be registered under the same names. Without the vendor agreeing to change the application, if this bit of code runs without MSO being installed it will produce errors. If it is possible to not run this code, it may be possible to make an alternate arrangement, like exporting the data from the database directly into csv, or some such arrangement. There might be ways to work around the problem, but you'd need to know a bit more about the system as a whole. Paul On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:38:07 -0500 Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 06:56 AM, Milos Sramek wrote: Hi, a friend of mine has asked me for help. Their (small) company would like to get rid of dependency on Microsoft tools. The situation is: They have a company information system, which every now and then generates a spreadsheet table, which lands in MS Excel on some computer. For this MS Office ole automation is used. He has asked me, if it is somehow possible to redirect this to LibreOffice. Vendor if the information system has refused to support something like that (a small company fully dependent on MS). Is this somehow possible? Does anybody have experience with it? thanks Milos Milos, I have a few of questions: What is the backend of the information system? There almost always is a database present. Maybe it could configured to save the data in another format - most likely csv/tsv. If you are very lucky it may support export to ods. What Excel format are they using? If xls (most likely), directly importing into Calc maybe the easiest solution. If the xlsx, it will probably work but there are reports that xlsx files are more problematic. How complex is the spreadsheet? If it is basically a data with at most a few formulas and no outside links or internal links between sheets then importing into Calc will be much less troublesome. I doubt this is true. Are there any macros in the Excel spreadsheet? Though I doubt any are present, this would be one area that would make using Calc very difficult. Thinking about your question, I would install LO and try opening several of the spreadsheets and see if problems occur. Calc does a very good job of opening MSO formats. -- email jabber: sramek.mi...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office ole automation
Hi Milos, We basicly had the same problem. We still have a MS licence on our servers, but most of the workstations have LO installed. Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com Watch our company movies on www.tvh.tv On 12 December 2013 15:30, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thank you all for reaction. I see that this is not a trivial problem - we will search further. best Milos Dňa 2013-12-11 15:07, Paul wrote / napísal(a): Hi, The OP said the system uses OLE automation, which requires MSO to be installed to work. Even though the created files can be imported into LO, I gather the OP wants to remove the dependency on MSO completely. As far as I know, this won't be possible at all; some sort of workaround will be required. It's been a while since I last looked at OLE and COM, and I can't remember all the differences between them, but I understand that the relevant OLE components (are they servers, like with COM? I forget.) are installed with MSO, and while LO may provide equivalents, I highly doubt they will be registered under the same names. Without the vendor agreeing to change the application, if this bit of code runs without MSO being installed it will produce errors. If it is possible to not run this code, it may be possible to make an alternate arrangement, like exporting the data from the database directly into csv, or some such arrangement. There might be ways to work around the problem, but you'd need to know a bit more about the system as a whole. Paul On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:38:07 -0500 Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/11/2013 06:56 AM, Milos Sramek wrote: Hi, a friend of mine has asked me for help. Their (small) company would like to get rid of dependency on Microsoft tools. The situation is: They have a company information system, which every now and then generates a spreadsheet table, which lands in MS Excel on some computer. For this MS Office ole automation is used. He has asked me, if it is somehow possible to redirect this to LibreOffice. Vendor if the information system has refused to support something like that (a small company fully dependent on MS). Is this somehow possible? Does anybody have experience with it? thanks Milos Milos, I have a few of questions: What is the backend of the information system? There almost always is a database present. Maybe it could configured to save the data in another format - most likely csv/tsv. If you are very lucky it may support export to ods. What Excel format are they using? If xls (most likely), directly importing into Calc maybe the easiest solution. If the xlsx, it will probably work but there are reports that xlsx files are more problematic. How complex is the spreadsheet? If it is basically a data with at most a few formulas and no outside links or internal links between sheets then importing into Calc will be much less troublesome. I doubt this is true. Are there any macros in the Excel spreadsheet? Though I doubt any are present, this would be one area that would make using Calc very difficult. Thinking about your question, I would install LO and try opening several of the spreadsheets and see if problems occur. Calc does a very good job of opening MSO formats. -- email jabber: sramek.mi...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- DISCLAIMER http://www.tvh.com/newen2/emaildisclaimer/default.html This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
Hi Tom, Tom Davies wrote Did you try renaming your User Profile? Yes, no change. It was a new, vanilla install anyway, Tom Davies wrote Have you tried a different branch of LibreOffice, say the 4.0.3? No. If it's possible to install that via PortableApps, maybe I'll try it for the hell of it. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913p4087947.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
jomali wrote I don't see Default value anywhere on my sheet. Where do you see it? Format Row Height -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913p4087949.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs
On 12/12/2013 04:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Font files are fairly small and deleting one, even one that you never appear to use, could have fairly dire consequences in Windows (people have tried it before). So it's better to keep them. Windows comes loaded with many proprietary fonts with weird copyright restrictions. Ubuntu therefore uses ones that have copyleft licenses (= permissive copyright that don't restrict usage) fonts. You can probably google it (or duck-duck-go or other search engine it) to find those fonts and install them on Vista fairly easily. I think you have to drag them into the C;/Windows/fonts folder. Just out of curiosity why go from Ubuntu to the currently worst version of Windows? (hmm, some would say Win8 is worse but both are clearly fighting for last place). Since they have just stopped selling Win7 i would guess they stopped selling Vista ages ago and it's end-of-life might even have happened already. Xp is still supported (although not for long) and Win7 doesn't stop being supported until next year. Errr, you don't have to answer, it's more of a rhetorical question tbh. We all get forced into things we don't want to do sometimes or find the best choice we have is a bad one. Regards from Tom :) On 11 December 2013 22:11, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I just installed LO 4.1 on my win vista laptop. the font I normally use on my desktops (ubuntu 13.10) is freesans. There is no freesans in the font list. Is this a 'windows thing'? How large (in K) are each font file (I'm sure they vary somewhat)? How do I delete the ones that I will never use? During the install, I saw a message saying that the install program was deleting backup files. Are these files that were created during the install process, LO files from the previous version, or MY BACKUP FILES?? :) John I don't understand why freesans is not in the windows version. Does MS exert some kind of restriction to keep 'free' fonts out of apps? that's weird. Re: your question re: win. Good one. I use Ubuntu on my desktops. Unfortunately, I have a need for database applications that are run by others in my company, so i can't have them selecting queries, forms, etc. as in LO, and I am constantly looking for a database program with a language, e.g. Foxpro in Linux. Not found. The sqls are back ends, and I will need to learn a C like language to write the application. I hit the ground running with dBASE II in 1980 creating business applications with only some basic (dartmouth) experience. Since MS does not give us backup CDs for the laptops, and they create drivers for laptop features (modem and what else), I don't want to remove win from the laptops. I have only dual booted one with suse 8.2 a few years ago. John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
Hi, I would suggest to use https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ without forgetting : 1 problem/1 bugtracker. Before this, rename your LO directory profile (see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile). Julien -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-4-1-3-tp4087929p4087985.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs
Hi :) The fonts are in the OS, not in the LO installer and different OSes have different fonts by default but you can always add new ones. Sometimes after installing a new font LibreOffice doesn't pick-up on it and i don't know how to fix that. Our usual fonts expert hasn't been around for several days so it might be worth checking the archives to see if you can understand his usual answer to this. Base is a good front-end and prefers to work with an extenal back-end rather than an internal one. That makes it ideal for reading/writing-to back-ends on servers. Base can be a good local front-end. On this list we often have some experts at working with MySql as a back-end, sometimes Postgresql and others. Dual-booting is a great way to go but if you go that way with Vista then it's probably wise to resize the Windows partitions from inside Windows. Before Service Pack one Vista often broke if resized by external tools (such as if you had Windows on another partition or used GnULinux tools). Usually it's MUCH safer to do that sort of thing to partitions that are NOT mounted (in order to avoid the potential for corrupted data). Normally after resizing Windows it needs to check the integrity of the partitions next time you boot into Windows so just let it run through that process. I guess John knows all that already but it's one for the archives. Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 19:28, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: On 12/12/2013 04:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Font files are fairly small and deleting one, even one that you never appear to use, could have fairly dire consequences in Windows (people have tried it before). So it's better to keep them. Windows comes loaded with many proprietary fonts with weird copyright restrictions. Ubuntu therefore uses ones that have copyleft licenses (= permissive copyright that don't restrict usage) fonts. You can probably google it (or duck-duck-go or other search engine it) to find those fonts and install them on Vista fairly easily. I think you have to drag them into the C;/Windows/fonts folder. Just out of curiosity why go from Ubuntu to the currently worst version of Windows? (hmm, some would say Win8 is worse but both are clearly fighting for last place). Since they have just stopped selling Win7 i would guess they stopped selling Vista ages ago and it's end-of-life might even have happened already. Xp is still supported (although not for long) and Win7 doesn't stop being supported until next year. Errr, you don't have to answer, it's more of a rhetorical question tbh. We all get forced into things we don't want to do sometimes or find the best choice we have is a bad one. Regards from Tom :) On 11 December 2013 22:11, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I just installed LO 4.1 on my win vista laptop. the font I normally use on my desktops (ubuntu 13.10) is freesans. There is no freesans in the font list. Is this a 'windows thing'? How large (in K) are each font file (I'm sure they vary somewhat)? How do I delete the ones that I will never use? During the install, I saw a message saying that the install program was deleting backup files. Are these files that were created during the install process, LO files from the previous version, or MY BACKUP FILES?? :) John I don't understand why freesans is not in the windows version. Does MS exert some kind of restriction to keep 'free' fonts out of apps? that's weird. Re: your question re: win. Good one. I use Ubuntu on my desktops. Unfortunately, I have a need for database applications that are run by others in my company, so i can't have them selecting queries, forms, etc. as in LO, and I am constantly looking for a database program with a language, e.g. Foxpro in Linux. Not found. The sqls are back ends, and I will need to learn a C like language to write the application. I hit the ground running with dBASE II in 1980 creating business applications with only some basic (dartmouth) experience. Since MS does not give us backup CDs for the laptops, and they create drivers for laptop features (modem and what else), I don't want to remove win from the laptops. I have only dual booted one with suse 8.2 a few years ago. John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All
[libreoffice-users] Re: Row height inexplicably changes after various innocuous operations
It reminds me this bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72278 and 2 others related. The 3 of them have been fixed so it could be interesting you give a try to one of the pre release http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ 4.1.4 RC2 or 4.2.0 Beta 2 Julien -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Row-height-inexplicably-changes-after-various-innocuous-operations-tp4087913p4087988.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs
If you install fonts while LO is running it won't recognize them until you close LO and restart it. Virgil Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:04:56 + Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs From: tomc...@gmail.com To: jsow...@americansentry.net CC: users@global.libreoffice.org Hi :) The fonts are in the OS, not in the LO installer and different OSes have different fonts by default but you can always add new ones. Sometimes after installing a new font LibreOffice doesn't pick-up on it and i don't know how to fix that. Our usual fonts expert hasn't been around for several days so it might be worth checking the archives to see if you can understand his usual answer to this. Base is a good front-end and prefers to work with an extenal back-end rather than an internal one. That makes it ideal for reading/writing-to back-ends on servers. Base can be a good local front-end. On this list we often have some experts at working with MySql as a back-end, sometimes Postgresql and others. Dual-booting is a great way to go but if you go that way with Vista then it's probably wise to resize the Windows partitions from inside Windows. Before Service Pack one Vista often broke if resized by external tools (such as if you had Windows on another partition or used GnULinux tools). Usually it's MUCH safer to do that sort of thing to partitions that are NOT mounted (in order to avoid the potential for corrupted data). Normally after resizing Windows it needs to check the integrity of the partitions next time you boot into Windows so just let it run through that process. I guess John knows all that already but it's one for the archives. Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 19:28, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: On 12/12/2013 04:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Font files are fairly small and deleting one, even one that you never appear to use, could have fairly dire consequences in Windows (people have tried it before). So it's better to keep them. Windows comes loaded with many proprietary fonts with weird copyright restrictions. Ubuntu therefore uses ones that have copyleft licenses (= permissive copyright that don't restrict usage) fonts. You can probably google it (or duck-duck-go or other search engine it) to find those fonts and install them on Vista fairly easily. I think you have to drag them into the C;/Windows/fonts folder. Just out of curiosity why go from Ubuntu to the currently worst version of Windows? (hmm, some would say Win8 is worse but both are clearly fighting for last place). Since they have just stopped selling Win7 i would guess they stopped selling Vista ages ago and it's end-of-life might even have happened already. Xp is still supported (although not for long) and Win7 doesn't stop being supported until next year. Errr, you don't have to answer, it's more of a rhetorical question tbh. We all get forced into things we don't want to do sometimes or find the best choice we have is a bad one. Regards from Tom :) On 11 December 2013 22:11, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: I just installed LO 4.1 on my win vista laptop. the font I normally use on my desktops (ubuntu 13.10) is freesans. There is no freesans in the font list. Is this a 'windows thing'? How large (in K) are each font file (I'm sure they vary somewhat)? How do I delete the ones that I will never use? During the install, I saw a message saying that the install program was deleting backup files. Are these files that were created during the install process, LO files from the previous version, or MY BACKUP FILES?? :) John I don't understand why freesans is not in the windows version. Does MS exert some kind of restriction to keep 'free' fonts out of apps? that's weird. Re: your question re: win. Good one. I use Ubuntu on my desktops. Unfortunately, I have a need for database applications that are run by others in my company, so i can't have them selecting queries, forms, etc. as in LO, and I am constantly looking for a database program with a language, e.g. Foxpro in Linux. Not found. The sqls are back ends, and I will need to learn a C like language to write the application. I hit the ground running with dBASE II in 1980 creating business applications with only some basic (dartmouth) experience. Since MS does not give us backup CDs for the laptops, and they create drivers for laptop features (modem and what else), I don't want to remove win from the laptops. I have only dual booted one with suse 8.2 a few years ago. John -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3
Hi Everyone, also try the incoming 4.1.4.x release, in the RC1 there were almost 100 bug fixed (with 2 rtf import filter related, ;-) ): http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/4.1.4/ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.4/RC1 Make us know the resulting behaviors... I suggest to you to rename your LibreOffice home dir as stated in the Julien mail... Have a nice day, Carlo ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu Il 12/12/2013 09:38, Kunwar Shivpal Singh ha scritto: Hi ALL, As appraised to you all I am an ordinary computer user limited to word, excel ppt. But an ardent fan supporter of LIBRE OFFICE. Was till now using LO 3.?.? not sur eof the succeeding digits. Recently downloaded 4.1.3 but am facing lot of problems with it: Hangs for no good reason - almost at par with MS Office with VISTA got a pdf file converted to word online the resultant was .rtf LO 4 would open it in .odt allow me to save it in .odt but when I try to open the LO file I receive an error msg box: Libre Office 4.1.3.2X RedRead-Error. Circle Error reading file. OK Have tried it several times but to the same result. I feel LO 4.1.3.2 needs some time before novices like can use it. What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? I do not want to first uninstal LO 4.1.3.2 then install LO 3.5.7 is this possible? or will there be a down time i.e. uninstall LO 4.1.3.2 then download LO 3.5.7 then install it? Kindly suggest thanks regards kunwar --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3
Hi :) In the future it might be best to just keep the installer files somewhere locally. That way you can easily uninstall and then reinstall later. I tend to keep the old installers accident anyway but by the time i might want to reinstall it's easier for me to just download the next newer version. I try to delete some of the versions so that i only have 1 or 2 at a time. As for why Vista keeps hanging. Does it happen with other programs or is it just MS Office and LibreOffice so far? Have you done a defrag and run disk cleanup fairly recently? It's a good idea to do routine maintenance like that about 1/month. Also do you know how much free-space you have on your hard-drive? Windows tends to need over 20% free otherwise it suffers from more slow-downs. I often find people simply haven't emptied their recycle bin or haven't emptied the wastebin in their email program. Regards from Tom :) On 12 December 2013 21:04, Carlo Strata carlo.str...@tiscali.it wrote: Hi Everyone, also try the incoming 4.1.4.x release, in the RC1 there were almost 100 bug fixed (with 2 rtf import filter related, ;-) ): http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/4.1.4/ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.4/RC1 Make us know the resulting behaviors... I suggest to you to rename your LibreOffice home dir as stated in the Julien mail... Have a nice day, Carlo ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu Il 12/12/2013 09:38, Kunwar Shivpal Singh ha scritto: Hi ALL, As appraised to you all I am an ordinary computer user limited to word, excel ppt. But an ardent fan supporter of LIBRE OFFICE. Was till now using LO 3.?.? not sur eof the succeeding digits. Recently downloaded 4.1.3 but am facing lot of problems with it: Hangs for no good reason - almost at par with MS Office with VISTA got a pdf file converted to word online the resultant was .rtf LO 4 would open it in .odt allow me to save it in .odt but when I try to open the LO file I receive an error msg box: Libre Office 4.1.3.2X RedRead-Error. Circle Error reading file. OK Have tried it several times but to the same result. I feel LO 4.1.3.2 needs some time before novices like can use it. What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? I do not want to first uninstal LO 4.1.3.2 then install LO 3.5.7 is this possible? or will there be a down time i.e. uninstall LO 4.1.3.2 then download LO 3.5.7 then install it? Kindly suggest thanks regards kunwar --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
The fact that I had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one. I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the command line. In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could do easy testing for bug reports. Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable parallel installations? On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote: Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar Shivpal Singh: What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? Kunwar, if it is of interest for you: you can install both versions in parallel - see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc 4.1.3.2 410 crashes on Fedora 19
Hi Tom, thanks for the hint but could you please help me on how I have to do what your proposed. My IT knowledge seems to be insufficient. First maybe let me know what a package manager is and how to start it in XP. R On 2013-12-11 19:03, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Maybe a dependancy problem somewhere? Can you get one of your package managers to fix broken packages or check for errors? Regards from Tom :) On 10 December 2013 15:43, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: Hi , I observed crashes of v4.1.3.2 on XP/SP3 when opening certain calc files. I could not trace the cause of the problem. Changing of the user profile did not help. Additionally I observed crashes when I changed page formats in the format window (F11). Changing to default or customized page formats caused Writer to crash. I had to give up 4.1.3.2 and went back 4.0.6 just. In 4.0.6 I don't observe any of these above problems. But I miss a few new features of 4.1.3.2... On 2013-12-06 10:57, Peter Langfelder wrote: Hi all, curious if anyone else noticed this - after last update a few days ago that also updated libreoffice, calc crashes upon startup or when opening documents. That is, starting libreoffice without any arguments works, but starting a new spreadsheet or opening a spreadsheet file (.ods) or running calc from command line crashes. The crash does not produce any useful debugging information, I only get a message saying [1]+ Exit 135libreoffice and ABRT reports signal 7 (SIGBUS). I wonder whether this is unique to my machine or whether others can also observe it. I am running a fully updated Fedora 19, $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 3.11.9-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 21:22:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and libreoffice --version reports LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 410(Build:2) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Theme madness - Help!
I have been using SO/OO/LO since StarOffice 0.9, with the latest version being 4.1.3.2 on Xubuntu 13.10. In all that time I have never had problems with the appearance of menus, background colors, etc. But now suddenly the appearance is horribly wrong. Menu fonts are in some very large font but hard to read because the strokes are extremely thin. Some icons, e.g. the format painter icon, are a Greek character. I tried to change the theme, but was taken to a Firefox page with hundreds of themes, all of which looked even worse than the mess I have now, although I must confess that I was so disgusted that I stopped looking after a couple pages. My previous version was 3.5.7.2 from the repos on Xubuntu 12.04. How can I get a clean, uncluttered look back, like I had before? I might add that for a long time I have used only a customized formatting toolbar (all others turned off), which I keep in a square window off to the right. I opened up LO just now and it was still off to the right, but had reverted to a single line. What is going on with my settings? Should I uninstall the version from the Ubuntu repository and install the version from LO instead? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice bug
I have a nice desktop running windows seven and I have downloaded libre office. I recently came across a very annoying problem that caused me to lose a good deal of work. While typing a report the green save bar at the bottom of the screen started repeatedly filling up and it was on an unbreakable save cycle for lack of a better term. I believe it was triggered by the autosave function. Any attempt to exit the program failed. I put my computer to sleep and when I woke it up the file was still in a save cycle. I could not scroll type or highlight in the document. I was forced to command quit it. I figured it had at least saved because of the nature of the problem but this was not the case. I lost the part of the report i had been working on. Please investigate the problem. It caused a good bit of grief but could have been alot worse. P.S. I have relatively good virus-ware and avoid sketchy sites so I don't think that was the problem. Thanks, Arik Jenkins Mechanical Engineering atjenk...@crimson.ua.edu ariktjenk...@gmail.com Cell: 865-368-9772 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Can I use a listbox to query database
Le 12/12/2013 04:01, Bob Muir a écrit : Hi Bob, I want to make the database easily searchable for people with little computer experience. Is there a way to present a screen to such users with dropdown lists of the topics (same entries as in the Topics table) that will produce a list of the relevant presentations? I don’t what them to have to deal with creating a query or a report. Am I asking for too much? Yes, at least in the sense that if I have understood your quandry you essentially want a read-only form that will allow you to query the data via drop-down lists and automatically filter the remaining data accordingly. That kind of automatic functionality would generally require macro programming. However, you might want to take a look at the FormFilter mode and see whether you can tweak that to get what you want. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
