Re: [libreoffice-users] word count in impress

2017-10-02 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2017/10/03 4:03, Krunose wrote:

On 02.10.2017 18:13, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
It happens once in a while .. I have to work (translate) PPT files  
for which I use Impress and then need to know the number of words.

In the entire file.
So far I could not figure out, whether there is a way to count all  
words in an Impress file.
(A similar question posted on the net somewhere was "closed, because  
it is irrelevant" ???)


Today I found, that one can get a word count in the real PPT by  
looking at properties.


Is there such a trick for Impress?

Thank you.
Thomas



I don't know about better solution but you could save presentation as  
html (as one file) and then open that file in Writer.


Could this work for you?

Kruno

Under "save as" I cannot find anything resembling "html", so the file  
has to be "exported" as xhtml.

But THAT give you all that computer language, which will NOT! be paid.
So the count for a test file I opened should be somewhere around 30  
pages (translation), but the word/character count

in Writer gives a count like 350 pages.
If the companies would pay me that much, that would be wonderfull,  
however that is unfortunately not how the world works ...


When I export it as html, I get a count of 52 words. That is obviously  
not correct either.


Apparently, this does not work.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] word count in impress

2017-10-02 Thread jorge Rodríguez

Hi Thomas:

        I think that I have a solution using GNU / Linux Ubuntu, or 
maybe the solution it would be able with other program similar that you 
can find:


    1) Install the program: gpdftext (GTK+ text editor for ebook PDF 
files, gpdftext opens a simple text-based PDF file, typically
intended for reading on an ebook reader and loads the text into a text 
editor window, autoformatting the text for long lines and paragraph breaks.
gpdftext is useful when the downloaded PDF uses a small font or wastes a 
lot of space in the margins so that a plain text file would display in a 
more comfortable font. gpdftext supports spell checking and editor font 
selection
and can save ASCII content as PDF.) Web site: 
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:linux/?q=gpdftext


    2) Save the Impress Presentation in .pdf format

    3) Open the Impress Presentation with gpdftext

    4) gpdftext convert the .pdf document in simple format text

    5) Save the document as .txt

    6) Open the document with Writer an use the tool that it has: 
Menu-> Word Count


I hope this help,

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 02/10/2017 a las 10:13, Thomas Blasejewicz escribió:

Good evening
It happens once in a while .. I have to work (translate) PPT files for 
which I use Impress and then need to know the number of words.

In the entire file.
So far I could not figure out, whether there is a way to count all 
words in an Impress file.
(A similar question posted on the net somewhere was "closed, because 
it is irrelevant" ???)


Today I found, that one can get a word count in the real PPT by 
looking at properties.


Is there such a trick for Impress?

Thank you.
Thomas




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Re: [libreoffice-users] word count in impress

2017-10-02 Thread Krunose

On 02.10.2017 18:13, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
It happens once in a while .. I have to work (translate) PPT files for  
which I use Impress and then need to know the number of words.

In the entire file.
So far I could not figure out, whether there is a way to count all  
words in an Impress file.
(A similar question posted on the net somewhere was "closed, because  
it is irrelevant" ???)


Today I found, that one can get a word count in the real PPT by  
looking at properties.


Is there such a trick for Impress?

Thank you.
Thomas



I don't know about better solution but you could save presentation as  
html (as one file) and then open that file in Writer.


Could this work for you?

Kruno

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Tabs and tab stops in text boxes

2017-10-02 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Ken,

Ken Springer schrieb:

Hi, Regina,

Yes, I'm in Writer.

Why am I using a text box?  Because there is this nice (or not so nice,
depending on the icon set) icon in the toolbar area that says "Insert
Text Box".  There's no indication the icon refers to a graphic object as
opposed to a text object/frame.  Using the word "Text" logically implies
you will be working with text, and not graphics.


And to make is more confusing, you can add a "text box" to a custom 
shape (a star e.g.) in Writer and that is an additional kind of "text box".




Digging a little deeper...

Right click on the frame.  At the bottom of the context box, it says
"Object", not "Frame".  And it really should say "Frame Properties" so
the context box entry accurately describes what the link will take you to.


Open the "Styles" pane of the sidebar. The third icon from left selects 
the tab "Frame styles". To these styles belong not only Frame, but 
Formula, Graphics (that are images not shapes) and OLE too. They are all 
kind of "Object". Therefore in some context not the specific but the 
more general term "Object" is used.


Shapes do not have styles in Writer but only in Draw and Impress.



Occasionally, I have had the same dialog box come up when right clicking
on a text box, but I can't reliably reproduce this.

Create a text frame the width of the page text area.  Height appears to
be unimportant.


You can set a minimal height which expands, if the content grows, or you 
can set a fixed height.


  Put a border on the bottom of the frame.  (This is for

reference only, so you can see what happens.)  Set the Vertical position
for Bottom to the page text area.

And look at that...  There's a gap between the frame and the page
margin.  :-)


A frame has an outer margin, a border and an inner padding (similar to 
the box model in CSS 
https://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-CSS2-20110607/box.html#box-dimensions).
Open "Properties" from the context menu (=right click) of the frame. Go 
to tab "Wrap". The section "Spacing" contains the values for the outer 
margin. Go to tab "Borders", the top right values are for "Padding". [It 
will be called Padding in the next LibreOffice version.]




There's a similar problem with an inserted image.  Do similar to the
text frame, but position vertically to the top of the page area.  Add a
caption below the image


A caption to the image inserts a frame. The image and the paragraph with 
the caption text are now content of the frame.


, and the image position is no longer next to the

top margin of the page.


You have to adjust margin and padding manually.



Now that you have a caption, the image position shifts away from the top
margin.



FWIW, with what I'm currently creating in LO, if I was being paid to
create documents similar to this, I would use, and recommend, a page
layout program.  :-)  But this gets me what I need to know and learn, so
I'm using LO.



If you will use LibreOffice like a layout program, you need a lot to 
learn, because that is not the common use of Writer. Do not hesitate to 
ask. LibreOffice has considerably more possibilities than a simple 
office worker would imagined. Describe what you want to get and people 
will give you tips how to get it.


Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Tabs and tab stops in text boxes

2017-10-02 Thread Ken Springer

Hi, Regina,

Yes, I'm in Writer.

Why am I using a text box?  Because there is this nice (or not so nice, 
depending on the icon set) icon in the toolbar area that says "Insert 
Text Box".  There's no indication the icon refers to a graphic object as 
opposed to a text object/frame.  Using the word "Text" logically implies 
you will be working with text, and not graphics.


Digging a little deeper...

Right click on the frame.  At the bottom of the context box, it says 
"Object", not "Frame".  And it really should say "Frame Properties" so 
the context box entry accurately describes what the link will take you to.


Occasionally, I have had the same dialog box come up when right clicking 
on a text box, but I can't reliably reproduce this.


Create a text frame the width of the page text area.  Height appears to 
be unimportant.  Put a border on the bottom of the frame.  (This is for 
reference only, so you can see what happens.)  Set the Vertical position 
for Bottom to the page text area.


And look at that...  There's a gap between the frame and the page 
margin.  :-)


There's a similar problem with an inserted image.  Do similar to the 
text frame, but position vertically to the top of the page area.  Add a 
caption below the image, and the image position is no longer next to the 
top margin of the page.


Now that you have a caption, the image position shifts away from the top 
margin.




FWIW, with what I'm currently creating in LO, if I was being paid to 
create documents similar to this, I would use, and recommend, a page 
layout program.  :-)  But this gets me what I need to know and learn, so 
I'm using LO.




On 10/2/17 4:08 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Ken,

are you working in Writer? Then I wonder, why you are working with a
text box and not with a frame? A text box is a graphic object with a
restricted edit engine.

Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] word count in impress

2017-10-02 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

Good evening
It happens once in a while .. I have to work (translate) PPT files for 
which I use Impress and then need to know the number of words.

In the entire file.
So far I could not figure out, whether there is a way to count all words 
in an Impress file.
(A similar question posted on the net somewhere was "closed, because it 
is irrelevant" ???)


Today I found, that one can get a word count in the real PPT by looking 
at properties.


Is there such a trick for Impress?

Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Tabs and tab stops in text boxes

2017-10-02 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Ken,

are you working in Writer? Then I wonder, why you are working with a 
text box and not with a frame? A text box is a graphic object with a 
restricted edit engine.


Kind regards
Regina

Ken Springer schrieb:

Hi, Rémy,

I got back to working with tabs again today.

And you appear to be right, they only work if you manually enter them
into the dialogue box.

Even that doesn't appear to work 100% correctly.  Let's say you have a
text box where the right edge of the box is at 7.50"  Do you think you
can put a right tab at 7.50"?  Nope.  It will wrap to the next line, at
the first tab stop.

You have to enter 7.49".

I did a bit of experimenting in Open Office, current version, appears to
be the same thing.  :-(

This testing was done earlier today, and I found a couple other "little"
things that don't seem quite right either.  I wish I could remember what
they were, but I didn't take the time to write them down.  But I did
find it disappointing.

I so want to use LO, and by extension OO, but LO always leaves me with
the feeling it's "not quite ready for Prime Time".

The little things like this tab issue just leave me so frustrated,
there's no enjoyment for me. Let's add the unfixed/ignored bugs to
the list.  :-(



On 9/5/17 7:15 PM, Remy Gauthier wrote:

Hi,

Fedora 25
LO 5.3.4.2

Tab stops in a text box seem to work only if you set them up via Format

Paragraph and enter them manually. Entering tab stops via the ruler

bar is useless when it comes to the text boxes. Additionally, if you
setup some tabs in a box (via Format > Paramgraph) and click into the
box, even though they are set, they will not appear on the ruler.

I hope this helps.

Rémy Gauthier.

Le mardi 05 septembre 2017 à 12:58 -0600, Ken Springer a écrit :

OX X 10.11.6 El Capitan

LO 5.3.6.1

Do they work?  I haven't been able to make them work up to this
point.  :-(





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