Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS
pioneer!

[1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod
e



On Wed, 9 Oct 2013, at 04:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)

 I suspect that a lot of your concerns and more besides are shared by
the

 LO devs and in some cases by the companies they work for.



 My guess is that is part of the reason we don't already have 1-click

 installers.  We already have at least 2 systems that work (repos and

 copypaste from instructions) so there is nothing driving them to
produce

 some hasty bodge in the release early and release often style.

 Another, slightly wilder, guess is that you might need to do 1 extra
step

 = such as unzipping a container-file (as we can do with .odt files).



 This whole topic, about 1-click installers, is a chinese whisper
(not

 sure why the Chinese get the blame for it as we all do it).  It would
be

 better for one or 2 of us to contact the devs to initially find out

 1.  If there is a plan or vague idea to create 1-click installers for
the

 3 or 4 ways of packaging such things for GnuLinux (maybe and Bsd?)

 If there is then 2 follow-up questions arise

 2.  How imminent are such plans?  Soon or years away?

 3.  Are compiled binaries going to be available? (perhaps in .deb or
.rpm

 form for people to repackage for various distros such as Slackware
(or

 use tools such as the alien thing))



 At the moment we are all just making guesses based on something that
1

 person thinks they might vaguely remember having heard or read about
some

 time ago.  With no proof or links to anything to suggest that vague

 memory has any basis in fact.  Errr, that 1 person was me so i deeply

 apologise for that and for not intervening sooner [hangs head in
shame]

 [shuffles feet]



 Apols and regards from

 Tom :)







 

 From: Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net

 To: users@global.libreoffice.org

 Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2013, 0:35

 Subject: Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins:

 (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)





 snip /



 Of course, I could always compile the source

 code, but that can be another can of worms and it takes a lot longer
to

 compile LO than to just repackage the already compiled binary.  I am
not

 sure what your definition of distro is in your reply above.  It
could

 mean the LO distro or the Linux distro, in my case Slackware.



 snip /



 Generally, such package installers need to be run as root and that is
a

 no-no with me.



 snip /



 Take care.



 Girvin Herr



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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
Economies of scale! When I worked at the mall they paid someone to do
the gift wrapping around Christmas time which many people enjoyed as it
saved them the time! Although my boss passed this wisdom onto me: The
Wrapping is the only attractive part of the whole operation, there's
nothing quite like the thrill of getting a papercut while struggle to
box up something as awkward as a blow up doll Okay that's being a
little bit cynical, I am trying not to imply that the work of TDF have
gone and produced a fully open source adult toy which is very fun to
play with! However there are these like that on the market which run on
the FLOSS model!
See here:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/25/body-hacks-building-abody-hacks-building-an-open-source-theremin-like-vibratorn-open-source-theramin-like-vibrator/
 
I personally would like to see someone such as Nixie Pixel as a calender
girl for Libreoffice, The marketing strategy here would be amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/user/NixiePixel

On Wed, 9 Oct 2013, at 11:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Clicking on that link didn't work in my 'email client'
 http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-code
 
 Actually Girvin did say that he didn't want to compile from source. 
 Imagine the pre-compiled binary to be a new toy.  Some people prefer to
 wrap it in posh, elegant wrapping paper (lets say that is the .rpm
 paper).  Others prefer something cheerful and friendly (that's the .deb). 
 
 Girvin takes the present, unwraps it (and thanks the givers (as we all
 do, right?)) and then wraps it in some other wrapping paper to give to
 his system.  
 
 
 So i think what is being suggested is that if we do ever get 1-click
 installers then as well as having the source-code it might be nice to
 have the shiny new toy also available without wrapping paper, or to have
 a version wrapped in either version of the wrapping paper already being
 used.  
 Regards from 
 Tom :)  


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Latest

2013-06-23 Thread Anthony Easthope
That was not meant to happen!

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, at 02:12 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 02:07 24/06/2013 +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote:
 So
 
 To which the answer, I suppose, is So what?
 
 (Sorry: couldn't resist!)
 
 Brian Barker
 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Προτάσεις βελτίωση Libre Ofice

2013-06-12 Thread Anthony Easthope
 και να το αποθηκεύσω σαν εικόνα πράγμα που με βοηθάει
 ειδικά να κάνω logos για site. Καλό θα ήταν να είχε και αυτό το
 feature το LIbre Ofice Impress.
 
 Προσωπικά δεν κατηγορώ το Impress απλά θέλω το Libre Ofice να είναι 
 άξιος αντικαταστάτης του MS Ofice γιατί πιστεύω στην ιδέα του ελεύθερου 
 και ανοικτού λογισμικού και θέλω να συνεισφέρω σε αυτό. Αν υπάρχουν  
 κάποια απο αυτά θα ήθελα να μου πείτε που είναι στο Impress. Ακόμα θα 
 ηθελα αν κάποια από τα παραπάνω features είναι υπό ανάπτυξη για τις 
 επόμενες εκδόσεις του Libre Ofice.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
It makes me ask the question how do people on distros such as Gentoo /
Mageia / Slackware / CentOS solve this problem, Logic tells me that they
would download the source code from here:
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=src

This then leads me to the conundrum as to how do they resolve the
conundrum of dependency!  The whole issue then gets shrouded by the
different factions of the distros loyal fan-base claiming why their way
is the +Best+. I myself have been guilty of it!. I propose redoing the
design of the Linux download page and adding Icons for the DEB based
installer and the same for the RPM based one. Having a generic Linux
package as well would also be an advantage perhaps implemented by using
*bz2 format and using a tux logo as it's header?

It might solve some confusion that I initially had.
One further comment:
Would I be right in saying the source code can be ported to work on BSD
based systems such as FreeBSD and BeOS? I'd be interested in the process

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, at 07:03 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Tom Davies wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  Hmmm, are you a regular distro-hopper?  Probably a good idea to install 
  onto a new separate partition so that you can easily get back to your 
  regular OS if things are not as smooth as they first appear!  Should be fun 
  though :)  Good luck and happy hunting! 
  Regards from 
  Tom :) 
 
 I'm an _occasional_ binge distro-hopper, boot up something from a 
 'live' drive and have a look, sometimes install for a real 
 look-around. but basically I've been with the same distro for about 
 three or so yrs.
 
 when it comes to installing for testing, I have one or two machines to 
 play with for this sort of purpose plus even if I only had one 
 machine, it's easy to switch in a spare hard-drive and play. (laptops 
 are easy to open.)
 
 and best of all is to know gparted and grub2.
 
 F.
 
  
  From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2013, 9:17
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?
  
 
  On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Kevin Suo / 锁琨珑 wrote:
 
  I haven't used Manjaro before, but since it's a derivative of Arch
  Linux, LibreOffice must be in it's official repo, and installing
  LibreOffice must be the same as it is in Arch linux, just try:
 
  pacman -S libreoffice
 
  This will install the most recent libreoffice release for you.
 
  You can also check the arch wiki about libreoffice:
  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libreoffice
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Kevin Suo
  Beijing, China.
 
  I'm not completely sure of the question but out of curiosity and 
  booted a 'live' version of manjaro and LO is definitely on board.
 
  the distribution looks quite interesting. I didn't foresee having 
  the patience for arch but manjaro is good for the impatient.
 
  it found everything on my acer aspire 1 725-0802 without any fiddling. 
  I prefer the 'trinity desktop' to kde4 but this version looks quite 
  livable.
 
  I may actually install it. beats doing real work.
 
  F.
 
 
 
  06/09/2013 09:45 AM, Anthony Easthope:
  Hi!
 
 
 
  I was curious as I'm currently in the process of migrating
  my distribution to manjaro Linux which is the best download for it? I'm
  having some confusion as Manajro is a Arch derivative that is neither
  RPM or DEB based, for those that don't know Arch has the AUR (Arch user
  repository) which is essentially one massive storehouse for all the
  packages available for GNU/linux at this time. It works on the same
  principle as Ubuntu's PPA system except instead of there
  being multiple depositary's there is just one. Arch uses a rolling
  release model so it is at the cutting edge of all software / kernel
  changes, However the same can not be said for their LO packages.
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Which download for Arch/Manjaro linux?

2013-06-08 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi!



I was curious as I'm currently in the process of migrating
my distribution to manjaro Linux which is the best download for it? I'm
having some confusion as Manajro is a Arch derivative that is neither
RPM or DEB based, for those that don't know Arch has the AUR (Arch user
repository) which is essentially one massive storehouse for all the
packages available for GNU/linux at this time. It works on the same
principle as Ubuntu's PPA system except instead of there
being multiple depositary's there is just one. Arch uses a rolling
release model so it is at the cutting edge of all software / kernel
changes, However the same can not be said for their LO packages.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: no answers to my question

2013-05-23 Thread Anthony Easthope
I did some initial research on this. It seems that .pages ect formats
work in the same way as ODF formats in the fact they are some form of
compressed archive. I was able to explore them through a archive such as
7zip. 

On Thu, 23 May 2013, at 01:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks Alex!  I guess we would rather have devs working on more widely
 used stuff.  It's always possible to put these ideas forwards possibly
 for Extensions and just see if that sparks a new dev into working on
 LibreOffice.  I was wondering if there was already an Extension for
 OpenOffice or something lurking around some long forgotten corner of the
 internet but i guess the original poster would have already tried
 googling for that sort of thing.  
 
 I found the link that i keep losing
 http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
 but if Apple are no longer supporting their own formats then i doubt
 anyone else will be keen to!
 Regard from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013, 11:44
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: no answers to my question
  
 
 Le 22/05/13 20:45, Tom Davies a écrit :
 
 Hi Tom,
 
  Hi :)
  It might be worth putting forwards as a major project for next year's 
  Google Summer of Code.  The topics for this year have been selected  
  already.  
 
 Seriously, I doubt that anyone is going to volunteer to provide Claris
 or Appleworks support. These are old binary formats.
 
 
 Now, Pages/Numbers/Keynote support might interest more people, but for
 that you would need a Mac developer with some serious time on his/her
 hands and at the moment there aren't many floating around in this project.
 
 To my knowledge, not even other apps on OSX can open the
 Pages/Numbers/Keynote files. One would have thought that if the problem
 of interoperability with these formats was that acute, then some bright
 Mac spark would have developed an app that could do just that, convert
 them to something more useful.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Find and Replace Formatting?

2013-05-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hey



I have a document that needs to be formatted to be correctly wrapped -
What I was wanting to do was remove the hard breaks at the end of every
line. Is there an easy way to do this? The symbol looks like a
backwards P (Standard non-printing character?)

The document is to big for me to go through an manually do this
by deleting it manually.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloader Not Working

2013-05-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-10 Thread Anthony Easthope
The thing that amuses me is the creative or at least literary geniuses
we seem to have on this list. Anne I compliment you! Although I don't
often respond to the list much these days I still make the effort to
read all threads! I have often considered some aspects of what it is I
can do and I'm still stuck on the time and involvement, It sucks being
in the position where you constantly are traveling and unable to
keep on top of this all!  Anyhow, I'd best be off I've got rehearsals
to go to! well on that note - Currently using LO to draft a play that a
youth theatre group will be using as part of the International Festival
of the Arts!



Cheerio!

Ant



On Fri, 10 May 2013, at 11:56 AM, e-letter wrote:

 On 08/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 

 

  On 8 May 2013 08:41, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote:

 

  On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi Tom,

  

  

   On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  

   Hi :)

   That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more
fun

   an

  be

   more useful in other areas of the project!!

  

  [...]

 

 

 

 

  Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please
mark

  top-post spam: delete

 



 A deliberate addition to see who would bite the bait and prefer not
to

 discuss the original topic; it worked ;)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Get Involved with LibreOffice - No Programming Skills Needed

2013-05-06 Thread Anthony Easthope
I'd be keen but unfortunately to much happens at my end to be of much
use! I could try my best though. 

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, at 10:47 PM, Joel Madero wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Tom Davies
 tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
 
  Hi :)
  I thought this was a good call and wondered if anyone new is interested.
  It can be quite addictive tthough so take care!
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 2 new people jumped in the room today :-D Another 10-15 is still needed
 but
 we're getting there!
 
 
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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages ...

2012-12-07 Thread Anthony Easthope
Omg. First off how slow can you get?? :D It takes me 1 hour to walk from
one end of my city to the other - which is about 12km. Tom cheer up! you
sound so somber. 

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, at 11:12 PM, anne-ology wrote:
CONGRATULATIONS!
  sounds as if you're in great shape.
 
I walk fast; started as a youngster to keep up with my grandpa -
 6'2 -
  actually, at only 5' 2 1/2 nearly everyone walks faster
  than
 me, so my walk is more of a slow run  ;-)
 
Actually, in the summertime, I bike ... and sometimes it takes me
 longer - when I stop to gaze at the foliage or the birds ... ... ...
 
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 Hi :)
  Average walking speed for most people is generally considered to be around
  4miles/hour so you are either very fit, or walking downhill a lot.  It is
  important to eat properly and get plenty of exercise and not smoke but many
  people here are office workers.
 
  I cycle to work but then my work-place moved a lot nearer.  On push-bike i
  can get up to around 20 miles/hour if the road is clear.  It used to take
  me half hour to get to work but now takes around 10mins with most of that
  being stuck in traffic.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
--
  *From:* anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
  *To:* Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  *Cc:* Felmon dav...@union.edu; users@global.libreoffice.org
  *Sent:* Thursday, 6 December 2012, 3:02
 
  *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf
  import]
 
Hey, you G-Men ... do you walk each morn' -
takes me about 30-45 minutes to walk about 5 miles, care to join
  me  ;-)
 
 
 
  On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  wrote:
 
  Hi :)
   +1
   about the body image.  Women have travelled miles for just 1 sight of me.
   Unfortunately the direction is away from me not towards.
  
   Reply to all and then copypaste?  List manager?
   http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
   http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/
   errr i don't know about GMane.
  
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
   
From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 9:21
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Losing own messages [was Re: Pdf
  import]
   
   On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote:
   
Hi :)
   
I think there is some default setting when you apply to these lists
   that sets it so you can't see your own posts except through Nabble or
   GMane.  So, it's not just GMail that is blocking him.
   
   who's the list-manager again?
   
Personally i think it's a huge benefit.  I see my own posts in
  people's
   replies and notice all the horrible typos and embarrassments that i
  didn't
   notice while typing.  So, i am quite glad of it.
   
   diff'rent strokes. I'd rather see my own posts than my own face and
  torso.
   
This crazy need for Reply to or whatever is a different story.  It's
   made it much more difficult to get through the posts and i make a lot
  more
   typing mistakes now too.
   
   it's impossible! I have to type in the correct mailing list address for
   every reply.
   
Regards from
Tom :)
   
   apologies to Brian: I didn't see his post (it wasn't delivered for some
   reason).
   
   I wish I could wean myself of gmail.
   
   F.
   
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu Libreoffice

2012-12-06 Thread Anthony Easthope
Its good to see that there are now .DEB packages for installation
because for awhile there wasn't. I'm thankful for all the suggestions,
it just seems I need to get a good grounding in Terminal theory now. I'm
glad I made the change over to Ubuntu as there is so much more support
out there for it when compared to other distros. I'm only having some
compatibility issues with it at the moment (My android phone is not
being detected even though I have done so much config for it lol)  
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, at 04:15 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
 On 06/12/12 03:00, Don Myers wrote:
  Hi Anthony,
 
  This is how I update to each new version of the Document Foundation
  version of Libre Office. This is for the 64 bit version, but simply
  substitute the 32 bit version for the 64 bit. This is for the latest
   3.6.4.3 release:
 
  Download LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the
  desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will
  give you the folder LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US Run
  the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove
  libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i
  ~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb 3.
  sudo dpkg -i
  ~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.6-debian-menus_3.6.4-3_all.deb
 
 A shorter option is as follows:
 1   Download the appropriate file(s)
 2   tar zxvf ./wherever you downloaded to/downloaded '.tar./gz'
 file
 3   sudo dpkg -iR ./as above/extracted installation
 directory/DEBS
 
 The 'R' option, as suggested by it's character, invokes a recursive 
 operation on all .deb files in all sub-directories, thus avoiding the 
 redundant operation on the desktop integration stuff.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu Libreoffice

2012-12-06 Thread Anthony Easthope
Further more I am running 12.10 but with GNOME as my default shell. I
had a friend remove alot of the unity elements as in my opinion its just
so messy and hard to work with! 
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, at 11:14 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
 Its good to see that there are now .DEB packages for installation
 because for awhile there wasn't. I'm thankful for all the suggestions,
 it just seems I need to get a good grounding in Terminal theory now. I'm
 glad I made the change over to Ubuntu as there is so much more support
 out there for it when compared to other distros. I'm only having some
 compatibility issues with it at the moment (My android phone is not
 being detected even though I have done so much config for it lol)  
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, at 04:15 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
  On 06/12/12 03:00, Don Myers wrote:
   Hi Anthony,
  
   This is how I update to each new version of the Document Foundation
   version of Libre Office. This is for the 64 bit version, but simply
   substitute the 32 bit version for the 64 bit. This is for the latest
3.6.4.3 release:
  
   Download LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the
   desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will
   give you the folder LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US Run
   the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove
   libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i
   ~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb 3.
   sudo dpkg -i
   ~/Desktop/LibO_3.6.4.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.6-debian-menus_3.6.4-3_all.deb
  
  A shorter option is as follows:
  1   Download the appropriate file(s)
  2   tar zxvf ./wherever you downloaded to/downloaded '.tar./gz'
  file
  3   sudo dpkg -iR ./as above/extracted installation
  directory/DEBS
  
  The 'R' option, as suggested by it's character, invokes a recursive 
  operation on all .deb files in all sub-directories, thus avoiding the 
  redundant operation on the desktop integration stuff.
  
  Peter HB
  
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[libreoffice-users] New Zealand English Dictionary Submission

2012-12-06 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi guys



Forgive me if this is on the wrong list but I have come up with a idea
which I think I'm capable of.

What I want to do was make a New Zealand English
dictionary extension but I was unsure how to go about this.

I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to start apart from using a
existing British English word-list as a starting point.

Some assistance would be greatly received as well!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New Zealand English Dictionary Submission

2012-12-06 Thread Anthony Easthope
yes there is. but not to quell the author of it is actually lacking alot
of words and place names. I was hoping to make a more up to date version
of the former.

On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, at 01:38 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 
 On 2012-12-06 4:37 PM Anthony Easthope wrote:
  What I want to do was make a New Zealand English
  dictionary extension but I was unsure how to go about this.
 
 There already is one for LibreOffice.
 http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/english-new-zealand-dictionary-hyphenation-thesaurus
 
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[libreoffice-users] Ubuntu Libreoffice

2012-12-05 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hey guys



I'm back after what seems like ages! anyway encountered a problem which
is probably due to inexperience but anyhow.

I was wondering if there was a simple way to compile a Tar ball version
of LO on ubuntu? I've searched all documentation but its doing my head
in!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Suitability of Lo in Small organisations

2012-10-20 Thread Anthony Easthope
I haven't yet given them the 3.5.7 release as I have still been away!
the bugs where mainly freezing  wordcount and thelike

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012, at 03:49 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 +1
 Was it something that would have been easily fixed by renaming the User
 Profile?
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 7:17
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Suitability of Lo in Small organisations
  
 It would be interesting to learn what version was used, which bugs were 
 observed and if they were 
 all reported an when.
 
 
 On 2012-10-19 10:39, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Hi guys
 
 
 
  I was wondering what would perhaps be the best release of LO to
  recommend to a small charitable organisation.
 
  I had a problem with the latest release as it was quite buggy and the
  church  athletics club I installed it for was not to happy when they
  found the bugs interrupted their workflow,
 
 
 
  So what is the most stable release?
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Graph moves to top left of sheet

2012-10-20 Thread Anthony Easthope
I suggest you search using the term chart as LO works with chart not
specifically Graphs :) you might be able to find what your looking for 

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012, at 12:15 PM, moorelife wrote:
 I've checked for the use of the term 'graph' in the already reported
 bugs,
 but nothing comes up, so here goes something:
 
 Scenario:
 - an existing OpenOffice spreadsheet is opened with LibreOffice 3.5.7.2.
 - the graph which was at cell L3 now shows to be at A1, overlaying all
 the
 data that is there. 
 - moving the graph does to its old location does not do anything,
 - because reopening in LibreOffice has it at A1 again!
 
 I have the offending spreadsheet available, if anyone needs it...
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] What has happened to the proposed Zotero integration?

2012-10-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi guys



I'm just back from holiday and wondering what was done about LO
supposedly approaching Zotero for integration?

if there was nothing done then after my exams I will endeavor to draft
a whitepaper



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Re: [libreoffice-users] What has happened to the proposed Zotero integration?

2012-10-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
I CCed the same message to the discuss mailing list, it was here that
the idea originated anyway

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, at 07:39 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 Anthony
 
 I don't understand your question. Zotero and LibreOffice get along pretty
 well. 
 At least when I was last using them together (few weeks ago) they did. If
 you 
 have any problems, then you will have better chances of getting good
 answer if 
 you clarify.
 
 If you are talking about interactions between The Document Foundation and
 Roy 
 Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media (legal entities behind
 LibreOffice 
 and Zotero, respectively), then you might have more luck asking on
 general TDF 
 mailing list (disc...@documentfoundation.org). This is user-support
 mailing 
 list and most (?) of us are not associated with TDF in any way.
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[libreoffice-users] Suitability of Lo in Small organisations

2012-10-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi guys



I was wondering what would perhaps be the best release of LO to
recommend to a small charitable organisation.

I had a problem with the latest release as it was quite buggy and the
church  athletics club I installed it for was not to happy when they
found the bugs interrupted their workflow,



So what is the most stable release?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Invitation to join LibO's QA Team

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Easthope
This sounds like something I would love to do. Although the IRC timing could 
get awkward as my time zone is so far ahead of Europe and the Americas! 

Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Everyone,

This is an invitation to our users to join the volunteers with the quality
assurance team and help continue to make LibO a better software suite for
everyone. No programming skills are needed (although if you have some it
can be useful).

What we do:

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/

Our current project is to get our large backlog of bugs triaged (organized,
confirmed, prioritized). Because our team isn't very large we have a
difficult time keeping up with new bug reports (along with doing the other
tasks needed to be done by QA) so we are looking to add a few (if not more)
people. We are currently trying a group together to do a triage event on
IRC where a group of us spend 1-2 hours triaging as many bugs as possible.

If you're at all interested please reply to this email and we'll go from
there.


Best Regards,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead

2012-09-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
This doesn't really seem to be a good move by Microsoft as it would drive many 
people away it!. it is such a great thing that Lo exists


Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

On 18/09/2012 at 20:13, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

  Note, too, that the old argument, I bought it, 
 so it's mine, will be out the window--if it's rented, it clearly is 
 not yours to copy, etc.

As far as I remember, it was never yours. Most EULAs forbid e.g. reselling of 
box copy. They clearly state that they grant you right to use software, 
nothing more.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't send document as e-mail attachment to Opera Mail

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Easthope
Thats a tricky one. I don't exactly have a solution to the opera problem
but it might be best to associate the email client (Thunderbird maybe?)
as the default. From the best of my knowledge the opera browser can not
become associated with the *.eml format which Thunderbird  Evolution
use? -- As an aside what is the reason your using the M2 Client? from my
own experience it has loads of issues and is not as half as good as
thunderbird or evolution for that matter

I almost feel like I am talking through a hole in my head. 
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012, at 12:10 AM, wpost wrote:
 I use LibreOffice 3.4.5, and Opera 12.02 as a mail client, running Linux
 Mint
 Debian Edition 201204. LibreOffice has a send document as email
 command.
 Searching the web, I see it works fine with some other mail clients
 (Thunderbird, etc.) on Linux. But when I try it, I get the error message:
  
 LibreOffice was unable to find a working e-mail configuration. Please
 save
 this document locally instead and attach it from within your e-mail
 client.
  
 The relevant configuration appears to be found at Tools - Options -
 Internet
 - Email. I've tried opera, /usr/bin/opera, and  /usr/bin/opera
 --remote
 'openComposer(new-window)' (all without the double quotes). All of the
 above work from the terminal, and the latter (taken from Opera's
 documentation) opens a new message composition window, but none make
 LibreOffice's error go away.
  
 Searching the web, this list, and LibreOffice's Get Help references turns
 up
 nothing relevant.
  
 I'm out of ideas. Does anyone know how to make LibreOffice and Opera Mail
 play together?
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as document when opening it for viewing

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
Forgive me in asking, But only windows to my knowledge has a desktop.ini
settings file and Enda said earlier on in the thread that the OS they
had was ubuntu? surley ubuntu does not use a windows registry file for a
settings store?

On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, at 05:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 +1
 Do you delete cookies, temp-files, history, cache, desktop.ini,
 thumbnails and so on too?  It all seems too much effort and too likely to
 create problems.  
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012, 15:11
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as 
 document when opening it for viewing
  
 What does it prevent you from doing? Are you trying to open this file 
 more than once? You see, I'm confused why you need to override this 
 function of LO. Since the dot files are hidden anyway, I don't see what 
 difference the existence of these files make. The answer to my questions 
 might enlighten me.
 
 --Dan
 
 On 09/13/2012 10:00 AM, Enda wrote:
  I am the only user on the system. When I view a file, a dot file (like 
  .~lock.file.doc#) is created. How can I override (stop) this in 
  LibreOffice?
 
 
  - Enda
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder 
  as document when opening it for viewing
 
  On 09/12/2012 09:23 AM, Enda wrote:
  OS: Ubuntu
 
  Calligra does not create a dot file when viewing files, is there an 
  option to turn this off in LibreOffice?
 
 
  - Enda
  Do you want multiple users to be able to edit the file at the same time?
  I think this is causing confusion on the list.
 
  Often a program will create a lock file to prevent other users from
  modifying a file while someone is editing the file. This is a fairly
  common procedure and in some programs can be over ridden.
 
  A dot file can also refer to the MSO XP Word template with *.dot
  extension.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:41 PM
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: not create a dot file in same folder as 
  document when opening it for viewing
  Am 11.09.2012 18:01, Enda Noname wrote:
  Can Libreoffice not create a dot file in same folder as document when
  opening it for viewing?
  .~lock.file.doc#
  Is it really that difficult to tell us exactly about the situation? We
  don't even know the operating system.
  Is it really that difficult to copy some documents into a test
  directory, display hidden files and open them read-only?
 
  4 tests on Linux:
  1) libreoffice -view blah.odt [no lock file]
  2) chmod -w blah.odt
  libreoffice blah.odt [no lock file]
  3) menu:FileOpen... [X] Read Only [no lock file]
  4) menu:Save As... [X]Password blah2.odt with a read-only password
  close, re-open blah2.odt [creates a lock file]
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Disparities in the LO 3.6.1 Wordcount

2012-08-31 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi guys



I was just doing an assignment that needed a word count and was using
LO 3.6.1 and found that the word count is not working as it once was. I
quite like the new bottom status bar update it is a new and decent
update although it seems to be buggy at this stage. Take this block of
text which is from my assignment:



Power does corrupt and throughout history there has been a number of
examples of totalitarian governments. I have decided to explore the
theme “Power Corrupts”

Throughout this whole year I have studied texts across a various amount
of genres and now have found that within some of the texts I have
studied there was a strong connection throughout them that connection
was the idea that power corrupts. The  texts which had the best
connections where: Schindlers List by Steven Spielburg , Changes by
Tupac , Answer by  Frederic Brown and examination day by Henry
Releasable. Each text carried the theme of power corrupts in a
different way but all had the same parallels and critiques of the
world. It also appears that some of the texts are subtlety warning us
about the potential problems with totalitarian regimes that have
occurred in the past or which could occur in the future.



The first text I looked at was Schindlers list. Schindler's List is
the based-on-truth story of Nazi Czech business man Oskar Schindler,
who uses Jewish labour to start a factory in occupied Poland. As World
War II progresses, and the fate of the Jews becomes more and more
clear, Schindler's motivations switch from profit to human sympathy and
he is able to save over 1100 Jews from death in the gas chambers. With
The realisation that Schindler has as to what the Nazis where really
doing also awoke in Schindler how corrupt the regime actually was.
Steven Spielberg the director uses several events in the film to
highlight the corruptness of the Nazi’s for example when Schindler
finds out that some of his workers are to be sent to an extermination
camp he bribes the officer with a valuable gold watch in order to
release the prisoners. A character which personifies corruption
throughout Amon Goeth who does all sorts of twisted and corrupt things
such shooting everybody who was associated with one person who stole a
chicken. The following extract of dialogue also shows us how evil he
really is



now LO reports this as being 258 words. I count it myself and get
roughly 350. I then copy and paste this block of text into a online
word counting thing such as: [1]http://www.wordcounttool.com/

and get 338 and then I take it over to MO which gives me 338! I don't
know what to trust!

antiso...@myopera.com

References

1. http://www.wordcounttool.com/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Disparities in the LO 3.6.1 Wordcount

2012-08-31 Thread Anthony Easthope
Its good to see that it was fixed! it really is a great new feature!

On Fri, 31 Aug 2012, at 12:01 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote
 Hi,
 
 you might have a look at
 'Bug 53399 - Word count inconsistent and wrong with non-breaking space'
 → https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53399
 Status: RESOLVED FIXED
 
 The bug-fix will be available in LibreOffice 3.6.2.
 
 mjk
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Hi guys
 
 
 
  I was just doing an assignment that needed a word count and was using
  LO 3.6.1 and found that the word count is not working as it once was. I
  quite like the new bottom status bar update it is a new and decent
  update although it seems to be buggy at this stage. Take this block of
  text which is from my assignment:
 
 
 
  Power does corrupt and throughout history there has been a number of
  examples of totalitarian governments. I have decided to explore the
  theme “Power Corrupts”
 
  Throughout this whole year I have studied texts across a various amount
  of genres and now have found that within some of the texts I have
  studied there was a strong connection throughout them that connection
  was the idea that power corrupts. The  texts which had the best
  connections where: Schindlers List by Steven Spielburg , Changes by
  Tupac , Answer by  Frederic Brown and examination day by Henry
  Releasable. Each text carried the theme of power corrupts in a
  different way but all had the same parallels and critiques of the
  world. It also appears that some of the texts are subtlety warning us
  about the potential problems with totalitarian regimes that have
  occurred in the past or which could occur in the future.
 
 
 
  The first text I looked at was Schindlers list. Schindler's List is
  the based-on-truth story of Nazi Czech business man Oskar Schindler,
  who uses Jewish labour to start a factory in occupied Poland. As World
  War II progresses, and the fate of the Jews becomes more and more
  clear, Schindler's motivations switch from profit to human sympathy and
  he is able to save over 1100 Jews from death in the gas chambers. With
  The realisation that Schindler has as to what the Nazis where really
  doing also awoke in Schindler how corrupt the regime actually was.
  Steven Spielberg the director uses several events in the film to
  highlight the corruptness of the Nazi’s for example when Schindler
  finds out that some of his workers are to be sent to an extermination
  camp he bribes the officer with a valuable gold watch in order to
  release the prisoners. A character which personifies corruption
  throughout Amon Goeth who does all sorts of twisted and corrupt things
  such shooting everybody who was associated with one person who stole a
  chicken. The following extract of dialogue also shows us how evil he
  really is
 
 
 
  now LO reports this as being 258 words. I count it myself and get
  roughly 350. I then copy and paste this block of text into a online
  word counting thing such as: [1]http://www.wordcounttool.com/
 
  and get 338 and then I take it over to MO which gives me 338! I don't
  know what to trust!
 
  antiso...@myopera.com
 
  References
 
  1. http://www.wordcounttool.com/
 
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 Releases/3.6.1/RC1 · Bugs fixed against 3.6.0 RC3
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.1/RC1#List_of_fixed_bugs
 
 Releases/3.6.1/RC2 · Bugs fixed against 3.6.1 RC1
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.1/RC2#List_of_fixed_bugs
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sorry for the change but

2012-08-16 Thread Anthony Easthope
I have a feeling it was some spam that the nabble bot might of missed?
although saying that it was an interesting read and thanks who/whatever
you are for the share :P 

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, at 09:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)  
 I'm not entirely sure what any of that has to do with LO or TDF.  
 
 My views are my own and nothing to do with TDF or LO so i try to keep
 them to myself.  There is no reason to bring politics into this
 world-wide list, especially when it's just 1 country acting in a facist
 way.  
 
 Great to hear the US is pushing active young people into
 prostitution and other black-market trades.  Starvation and death or
 being deported back to face retribution and possibly torture is always
 a great option.  Certainly a great way for the US to ensure there are
 plenty of people out there that have good reason to dislike or even
 hate the US.  That ensures continuing conflict and ensures future
 arms-sales and ensures the US military can look forward to sending many
 of it's young men and women to serve and possibly die in lands far from
 home.  Wonderful!
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 --- On Thu, 16/8/12, Lynne Stevens jackie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Lynne Stevens jackie...@gmail.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Sorry for the change but
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 16 August, 2012, 2:17
 
 
 
 omega
     The
 Omega sector
 America's Last
 Line of
 Defense
 
 *Gov jan Brewer just stopped Obamme amnesty dead in it tacks
 YESS
 *
 
 *http://click.email.iheart.com/?qs=78932a3a2d2d3383f2e8df4d922dd99d7a3b8e20afd16f321097733679e0b8d9
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]

2012-08-16 Thread Anthony Easthope
I actually agree with that. It makes sense and will mean more people
will become aware of both projects which is waht I suppose we really
need/want? 

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012, at 02:34 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think TDF, just like other companies and organisations, could have more
 than 1 product.  It might be best if they bring their community and
 structures with them and retain a lot of independence and work-flow but
 obviously there might be some things that TDF could offer or would want
 such projects to incorporate.  I had thought such projects might include
 database back-ends, Gnome Office (if that needs a home), Calligra Office
 (although they are probably well organised already).  
 
 Probably it's all been discussed on the discussion's list here but this
 is an exciting time for TDF and there are a lot of opportunities for
 planning road-maps into the future.  
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Tue, 14/8/12, Marc Grober m...@interak.com wrote:
 
 From: Marc Grober m...@interak.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Zotero Integration with LO [Proposition
 / Feature Request?]
 To: 
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 19:16
 
 See zotero.org 
 You will find a few videos
 It is what you might think of as a bibliographic tool. I recommend it to
 all my students (along with FF and LO.) It also provides for sharing of
 collaborati libraries. I would have to suggest that the zotero community
 might appear to be less prone to spatting and more cohesive, and that
 would be my only heartburn in a closer relationship. 
 
 
 
 On Aug 14, 2012, at 5:20 AM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
        Could you please explain what is Zotero?
  
  
  
  On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Anthony Easthope 
  antiso...@myopera.comwrote:
  
  Hi Guys
  
  I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it as
  a feature request or a partnership suggestion.
  
  My idea is as follows:  The Document Foundation partners up with Roy
  Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making The
  Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work.
  
  I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I will
  outline my reasons as to why this could work below
  
   * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it can
  be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes
     for Zotero
   * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography  referencing
  tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for
     many people
   * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension
  which is also open source so at the same time we are not just
     supporting one open-source initiative but three!
   * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as well
   * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero
  related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero)
   * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even mean a
  new approach and reinvigorate the project
  
  
  Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so wish!
  
  
  Regards
  
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  antiso...@myopera.com
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Zotero Intergration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]

2012-08-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
I have facilitated your request and the deed is now done.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, at 10:29 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
 Hi Anthony,
 
 Le 2012-08-14 01:52, Anthony Easthope a écrit :
  Hi Guys
 
 
 
  I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it
  as a feature request or a partnership suggestion.
 
  My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy
  Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making
  The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work.
 
 
 
  I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I
  will outline my reasons as to why this could work below
 
 
 
 * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it
   can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes
   for Zotero
 * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography
   referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for
   many people
 * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension
   which is also open source so at the same time we are not just
   supporting one open-source initiative but three!
 * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as
   well
 * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero
   related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero)
 * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even
   mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project
 
 
 
  Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so
  wish!
 
 
 
  Regards
 
  Anthony Easthope
 
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 This would be best posted on the discussion list. If, after discussion, 
 the consensus is that it it a good idea, then someone would submit a bug 
 (feature) request.
 
 Could you repost this to the discussion list?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Marc
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great
for mailing lists as it groups all replies to one thread in a
conversation view. it also has a *Reply to list and a *Reply all
functionality. It only seems logical to me to hit reply to list as
that is what it is. anyway as the cliche goes I was jus sayin

Regards
Anthony

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:19 PM, anne-ology wrote:
exactly.
 
Let's take a poll - (1) to return this list to being an actual
list
  or
  (2) to change this from a list to
  private
 communications between only select ones, depriving the group of learning
 the ins  outs of LO.
 
 
 
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
 
  I just posted a reply to a thread to the last poster instead of the thread
  by mistake.  I am so use to pressing Reply and the next button being
  Reply All, that I now have to remember to skip the Reply button and
  remember that the Reply All button has been replaced with Reply List.
   This may cause some problems, if too many of our list users get the reply
  posting that were meant to go to the lists instead.
 
  Christian L. just sent me a notice that my posting went to him instead the
  How can I know which one is a spam? thread in the Website list.
 
  I nearly sent this posting to anne-ology instead of the User list.  This
  is going to be a problem, maybe.
 
 
 
  On 08/13/2012 01:06 PM, anne-ology wrote:
 
  exactly, therefore to change the default, you're changing this
  list
  to where folks will now be corresponding privately rather than allowing
  the
  list to hear what's new and learn from others.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
 
  On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 
   I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply List
  instead of the text on the Reply All button.  I run Thunderbird 14.0.
 
  I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to post a
  message to the thread.  It could be confusing to people, but does make
  it
  easier to send a message to the poster, off list.  I use to copy the
  email
  address of the poster and then paste it to my To: section.  This will
  be
  easier to do that, but hopefully not too many people will forget to use
  the
  new Reply List button instead of the Reply button.
 
   myself, I am not so clear why people are interested in sending private
  email to people on a public list. I did it yesterday but only because I
  had
  trouble posting to the list and was overeager to get my word
  ('hucksterism') in.
 
  the default mode on a list of replying to the list made sense to me. not
  a
  big deal for me since I mostly lurk.
 
  F.
 
 
  --
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated
mail client. http://mail.opera.com

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:39 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
  To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great
  for mailing lists as it groups all replies to one thread in a
  conversation view. it also has a *Reply to list and a *Reply all
  functionality. It only seems logical to me to hit reply to list as
  that is what it is. anyway as the cliche goes I was jus sayin
 
  Regards
  Anthony
 
 When you say Opera mail, do you mean the Opera web mail or the Opera
 M2 email client?
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 
  On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:19 PM, anne-ology wrote:
 exactly.
 
 Let's take a poll - (1) to return this list to being an actual
 list
   or
   (2) to change this from a list to
   private
  communications between only select ones, depriving the group of learning
  the ins  outs of LO.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
  webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
 
   I just posted a reply to a thread to the last poster instead of the 
   thread
   by mistake.  I am so use to pressing Reply and the next button being
   Reply All, that I now have to remember to skip the Reply button and
   remember that the Reply All button has been replaced with Reply List.
This may cause some problems, if too many of our list users get the 
   reply
   posting that were meant to go to the lists instead.
  
   Christian L. just sent me a notice that my posting went to him instead 
   the
   How can I know which one is a spam? thread in the Website list.
  
   I nearly sent this posting to anne-ology instead of the User list.  
   This
   is going to be a problem, maybe.
  
  
  
   On 08/13/2012 01:06 PM, anne-ology wrote:
  
   exactly, therefore to change the default, you're changing this
   list
   to where folks will now be corresponding privately rather than allowing
   the
   list to hear what's new and learn from others.
  
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
  
   On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  
  
I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply 
   List
   instead of the text on the Reply All button.  I run Thunderbird 
   14.0.
  
   I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to 
   post a
   message to the thread.  It could be confusing to people, but does make
   it
   easier to send a message to the poster, off list.  I use to copy the
   email
   address of the poster and then paste it to my To: section.  This 
   will
   be
   easier to do that, but hopefully not too many people will forget to 
   use
   the
   new Reply List button instead of the Reply button.
  
myself, I am not so clear why people are interested in sending 
   private
   email to people on a public list. I did it yesterday but only because I
   had
   trouble posting to the list and was overeager to get my word
   ('hucksterism') in.
  
   the default mode on a list of replying to the list made sense to me. 
   not
   a
   big deal for me since I mostly lurk.
  
   F.
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
It has changed to become @myopera.com now. and as it is still in beta
phase you only have 1gb of space which is still heaps for emails! They
plan to increase it in the near future. (best thing with this is there
is no adverts to annoy me or nor is there googles stupid tracking
policy!)

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:50 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
  Opera Webmail. I move around to much on computers to use a dedicated
  mail client. http://mail.opera.com
 
 I actually have an Opera Mail address, but I didn't use it for years
 now; maybe it's erased by now. So it could be a good idea to use Opera
 Mail for email lists, then… How much space is there for each user
 these days?
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 
  On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:39 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
  2012/8/13 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
   To me it seems fairly straightforward. I use Opera mail and it is great
   for mailing lists as it groups all replies to one thread in a
   conversation view. it also has a *Reply to list and a *Reply all
   functionality. It only seems logical to me to hit reply to list as
   that is what it is. anyway as the cliche goes I was jus sayin
  
   Regards
   Anthony
 
  When you say Opera mail, do you mean the Opera web mail or the Opera
  M2 email client?
 
 
  Kind regards
 
  Johnny Rosenberg
  ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
  
   On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 09:19 PM, anne-ology wrote:
  exactly.
  
  Let's take a poll - (1) to return this list to being an actual
  list
or
(2) to change this from a list to
private
   communications between only select ones, depriving the group of learning
   the ins  outs of LO.
  
  
  
   On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P 
   webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
  
  
I just posted a reply to a thread to the last poster instead of the 
thread
by mistake.  I am so use to pressing Reply and the next button being
Reply All, that I now have to remember to skip the Reply button 
and
remember that the Reply All button has been replaced with Reply 
List.
 This may cause some problems, if too many of our list users get the 
reply
posting that were meant to go to the lists instead.
   
Christian L. just sent me a notice that my posting went to him 
instead the
How can I know which one is a spam? thread in the Website list.
   
I nearly sent this posting to anne-ology instead of the User list.  
This
is going to be a problem, maybe.
   
   
   
On 08/13/2012 01:06 PM, anne-ology wrote:
   
exactly, therefore to change the default, you're changing 
this
list
to where folks will now be corresponding privately rather than 
allowing
the
list to hear what's new and learn from others.
   
   
   
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu 
wrote:
   
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
   
   
 I did not know that you could make the email client state Reply 
List
instead of the text on the Reply All button.  I run Thunderbird 
14.0.
   
I have to get use to using the Reply List instead of Reply to 
post a
message to the thread.  It could be confusing to people, but does 
make
it
easier to send a message to the poster, off list.  I use to copy 
the
email
address of the poster and then paste it to my To: section.  This 
will
be
easier to do that, but hopefully not too many people will forget 
to use
the
new Reply List button instead of the Reply button.
   
 myself, I am not so clear why people are interested in sending 
private
email to people on a public list. I did it yesterday but only 
because I
had
trouble posting to the list and was overeager to get my word
('hucksterism') in.
   
the default mode on a list of replying to the list made sense to 
me. not
a
big deal for me since I mostly lurk.
   
F.
   
   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
It is fine the way it is as of now, in fact I quite like the change as
it means I no longer get broken threads in my inbox which leads to it
being cluttered. so my vote lies with the change, I use to use a Linux
machine but found it beyond my comprehension so migrated back to
windows. Florian you made a good choice and I am glad that you have made
it and it must be noted that no matter what one can do you will never be
able to please everybody as that is one of the raw elements of human
nature because as I am sure your all aware humans do no not generally
like a lot of change of difference and that is one of the major root
causes of all disputes!

Regards
Anthony
:)

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, at 03:07 AM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 
 
 webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  On 08/13/2012 07:36 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
  On 08/12/2012 12:31 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hello,
 
  this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed
  (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled).
 
  So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other
  words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were
  automatically sent directly to the list.
 
  In the past, this lead to two major problems:
 
  1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list,
  where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case
  where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of
  worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people
  hit reply and thought it would reply to the sender only.
 
  2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that 
  working
  with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because
  of reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also
  led to the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who
  needed to spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden
  with others. While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just
  one way to find out...
 
  Therefore, I have applied a change:
 
  Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. 
  You
  either need to use the reply to all feature of your e-mail 
  program, or
  - preferably - the reply to list/reply to group feature, which will
  direct replies directly to the list.
 
  This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default
  setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the 
  wheel
  here. Those seeking for details should have a look at
  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 
  I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the
  outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it,
  so I am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for 
  your
  understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are 
  unusable
  with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists
  are unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those
  two, even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are
  mutually exclusive to each other.
 
  In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and
  again, I beg for your understanding.
 
  Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the
  community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of 
  you
  is to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or
  not. Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will
  immediately switch back to the old behaviour.
 
  Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm
  somehow sitting between two chairs here.
 
  Florian
 
 
  Hey All,
 
  Not trying to be rude.  All of you should be smart enough to run an 
  email tool.  After all you're all Linux users who administer at least 
  one Linux installation.
 
  For those of you having trouble with email filters try filtering on 
  libreoffice-users in the subject line.  That should get all your 
  email to the right folder.
 
 
  I filter on email address.
 
  LibreO - Website folder gets webs...@global.libreoffice.org
  LibreO - Projects Global folder gets proje...@global.libreoffice.org
  LibreO - Marketing US folder gets market...@us.libreoffice.org
  LibreO - Marketing Global folder gets market...@global.libreoffice.org
  LibreO - Users Global folder gets users@global.libreoffice.org
 
  So each list goes into its own folder in Thunderbird.
 
  I also have different folders for newsletters, friends, family, 
  organizations I deal with, domain related, purchases via Amazon and 
  PayPal accounts, etc., etc..  All of these folders are based on email 
  address filtering and not subject line filtering.  So, once I get an 
  email from a proper source, then I get to decide which folder that 
  email address will go into.  Subject lines and other filtering methods 
  do not work as well for me.  Every 

[libreoffice-users] Zotero Intergration with LO [Proposition / Feature Request?]

2012-08-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi Guys



I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it
as a feature request or a partnership suggestion.

My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy
Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making
The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work.



I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I
will outline my reasons as to why this could work below



  * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it
can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes
for Zotero
  * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography 
referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for
many people
  * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension
which is also open source so at the same time we are not just
supporting one open-source initiative but three!
  * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as
well
  * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero
related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero)
  * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even
mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project



Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so
wish!



Regards

Anthony Easthope

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Re: [libreoffice-users] COPY/PASTE HOTKEY PROBLEM

2012-08-12 Thread Anthony Easthope
What sort of document are you working on? That happened to me when I
selected a paragraph that had over 10 , 00 words in  it but it was
resolved by a re-installation of LO. also what os is this problem
occurring on?
oh and the LO version please!
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, at 10:57 PM, Jacob Octavius Jarlskov wrote:
 Everytime I press ctrl+c or ctrl+v Writer freeze and collaps. Any ideas?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-12 Thread Anthony Easthope
I quite like this idea of change as it now seems that less mistakes
should be made!

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, at 01:33 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 18:31 12/08/2012 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have 
 changed (so-called Reply to mangling has been disabled).
 
 Well done!
 
 This new way fails safe.  A message intended to be public may get 
 sent privately by mistake - a minor inconvenience that can easily be 
 remedied by sending the message again correctly.  The old method 
 risked messages intended to be private being sent publicly - a 
 unfortunate consequence that simply cannot be undone.
 
 Interestingly, there's an argument that list processors have no 
 business inserting a Reply-To header, which is instead the sole 
 domain of the message's author.  RFC 2822 appears to require this: 
 'When the Reply-To: field is present, it indicates the mailbox(es) 
 to which the *author* of the message suggests that replies be sent 
 (my emphasis).  The author of a message, of course, is not the list.
 
 Brian Barker
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
I was mistaken as to which version of MO I learnt to use as a 5 year
old. It was MO 2000 not 2003. I am 16 not 14 also!

On Thu, 9 Aug 2012, at 10:10 PM, Dan wrote:
 Dan wrote:
  T Hopkins wrote:
  The ribbon interface is definitely MO's big vulnerability.
 
  I would also argue that continuing development and promotion of Base is 
  important.  In
  particular, decreasing the accessibility curve and making the usefulness 
  of Base more
  apparent to users.
 
  Cheers, tod
 
  Tod Hopkins Hillmann  Carr Inc. todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
 
I agree. But where are the people who are willing to write the Base 
  Guide? This takes time. I have been
  working on this project since OOo 2.0. (OK, I may be rather slow.) I just 
  completed a rewrite of chapter 2
  this afternoon. Rewrites of Ch 3  4 should take less time. Furthermore, 
  there are very few volunteers to
  review my work. Then they need to be proof read for grammar, spelling, etc.
 
  --Dan
 
   Addendum: The first four chapters for the Base Guide in draft form
   are available at
 http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft.
 These were written for OOo 3.3.0. For LO, chapter 1 has already been
 published.
 
 --Dan
 
  On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:
 
  On 08/09/2012 02:43 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
  On 08/08/12 22:26, T Hopkins wrote:
  The difference in cost of the initial license, when considered from the 
  full
  deployment/productivity calculation of an IT manager, is often not the 
  deciding
  factor. The primary cost of changing software is not the license, but
  installation, configuration, training, and lost productivity during 
  conversion.
 
  The total costs of all that would be FAR lower by converting from Office 
  2003 or
  any of its predecessors to LO compared to converting to Office 
  2007/2010.users
  could at least get going almost immediately with LO whereas the new 
  ribbon seemed
  to be almost unfathomable to a lot of people, so yes, going from one 
  version of MS
  Office to a SIMILAR version (as in Office XP to Office 2003 or Office 
  2007 to 2010)
  I agree. Going from a menu-based Office to a ribbon-based Office no, I 
  don't
  agree.
 
  AFAIK, MSO 2007/2010 are the only major packages that use the ribbon 
  interface. All
  other recent Windows software I have seen still uses the traditional 
  menus. IMHO most
  users can adapt to a reasonable menu layout fairly quickly; it is more 
  about finding
  how to access a command than fighting the interface and finding the 
  command.
 
  I would expect most users could learn the LO fairly quickly because it 
  is same
  familiar menu style interface they are using on most packages.
 
  The total cost to install includes rolling out the software to the users. 
  If a
  company is not planning a major office suite roll out then converting to 
  any other
  suite will not occur. The ideal time to convert an organization is when 
  they are
  planning to replace their current suite. Then the a comparison of all 
  costs makes
  sense.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] re. the youngster ...

2012-08-09 Thread Anthony Easthope
I rerember tales of people learning to use COMODORES. I am in shock to
reliase how far in which we have come since those days, I think you will
find with the new generation there will be a greater acknowledgment of
open source and that will be the way of the future - One can only but
hope :)

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012, at 04:46 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
 
 On 2012-08-10 14:04, James Knott wrote:
  I also used to work with punch card equipment.
 And a breakthrough was marksense cards that freed you from the punch 
 terminal.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Anthony Easthope
When at home it is a case of using LO but when at work and school it is
a matter of using Mo as that is what everybody else uses.

I prefer to use LO for the simplicity that it has attached with it. I
remember being taught as a 5 year old to use MO 2003 and becoming quite
proficient in its use. Now as a High School Student I was forced to
crack MO for the first few years as I had no Knowledge of LO. Now since
I have made the switch I have not looked back as NZ now has severe
copyright laws in which I was breaching.

Long live Open Source!

Anthony

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012, at 11:26 PM, T Hopkins wrote:
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 
  The problem doesn't seem to be so much with management not wanting to 
  change - it seems to be with fear of the IT dept. 
 
 There are very sound reasons that businesses are conservative. 
 Businesses don't like change because change costs money.  You don't argue
 for change by saying something is just as good or not as bad as you
 think.  You must argue that change is BETTER than not changing and will
 ultimate increase productivity, which increases profits.
 
 The difference in cost of the initial license, when considered from the
 full deployment/productivity calculation of an IT manager, is often not
 the deciding factor.  The primary cost of changing software is not the
 license, but installation, configuration, training, and lost productivity
 during conversion.  If you put all of this on a balance sheet for a
 company that is currently using MS Office, the cost of upgrading the
 existing software is often much lower than the cost of changing new
 software, even when that new standard has a free license.  
 
 Cheers,
  tod
 
 Tod Hopkins
 Hillmann  Carr Inc.
 todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-07-24 Thread Anthony Easthope
I have a comment on the error dialogue.
I once got into a heated debate with my ICT teacher earlier on this year
and in the debate the comment was made by her that: Microsoft with that
error dialogue are really just trying to insinuate that their products
are superior to others

I in a way kind of agree with her because Microsoft have always insisted
that the MO range of extensions should be the industry standard. Due to
this sort of approach I find roadblocks when trying to submit work in
.ODT format to institutions such as NZQA (New Zealand Qualifications
Association). they keep getting angry at me for using a so called UN
recognized file format. I have now managed to persuade my school and
some other institutions that for a truly open submission and form of
collaboration that the use of ODF standards should be encouraged. the
major problem with persuasion is that people are not willing to make the
change is due to the lack of knowledge of understanding of opensource
and how it can really become better than commercial counterparts.

With education there can be a global revolution in the sense that open
source programs such as LO will become commonplace and the illegal act
of actions such as piracy (search on youtube crack microsoft offfice
2010 to see what I mean!) will almost cease, 

Regards 
Anthony Easthope


On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, at 09:03 PM, Don Parris wrote:
 I would like to take something of a straw poll, if that's ok.  I simply
 want to know whether any of you have shared documents using the ODF
 format
 with MS Office users (preferably in a business environment), and what was
 the reaction?  What problems
 
 I am not seeking advice on how to share documents with MS Office users.
  Nor am I interested in an in-depth analysis of why one might experience
 problems in sharing such documents.  I simply want to know your
 experience.
 
 I have been sharing a simple spreadsheet document between LO (at home)
 and
 MSO (at work) in the OD format.  The experience has been interesting on
 the
 MS Office side of it.  I get error messages (that don't seem to be real
 errors), and if I choose the repair option, it claims to fix the
 errors,
 and even gives me a link to click to see the list of alleged corrections.
  The list is just a near-empty XML document.  And to save a document in
  ODF
 raises a warning *every single time*, with no opportunity to say stop
 warning me.
 
 I know most of us still have to deal with both suites.  I just wonder if
 anyone else (how many???) has experienced similar issues.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD

2012-07-24 Thread Anthony Easthope
I was doing some reading about New Zealand's connection to the world and
it turns out we down under tap into some underwater fiber cable and that
the Government for some reason hires it from the US government, anyway
somewhere in the agreement it mentions that NZ can't exceed a ceartin
limit otherwise it would cook the service or something like that, anyway
I am writing this in a hurry as some one else wants the Mac so ill see
if i can post the link at a later date!

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, at 02:06 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi again (sorry for the double-posting)  :)
 
 The issue about New Zealand's connection to the rest of the world cropped
 up years ago in Ubuntu.  I think either Universities there or the
 authorities or someone ran a big hosting site to mirror the essentials
 and somehow Ubuntu managed to get mirrored on that.  Server-to-server
 'up'-loading (or is it downloading or cross-loading?) should be far
 faster than going through a domestic route!  
 
 I think the Ubuntu crowd discussed posting physical media to get the bulk
 done more easily.  
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Sat, 21/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 wrote:
 
 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 21 July, 2012, 23:18
 
 
 DO you have a broadband Internet connection?  The .iso file is listed
 here.
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.5
 If you do not have broadband connection, there should be a way for you to
 get a copy from some source.  I have shipped one to Malta from the USA,
 but do not like to spend my own money on shipping, most of the time.
 
 --
 
 Here is a link to the Online version of the DVD. [actually to the Install
 page]
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/install.html
 
 Browse this site and you will find all of the files and such on the DVD. 
 The online site tends to get updated more often than the physical media
 or the .iso file does, but still it will give you a look at the DVD.
 
 Right now, the only real updates to the online version [same as the
 physical one really] is the fact that there are 2 more chapters in Draw
 online than the one that can be bought or the .iso file to be downloaded.
 
 Mostly there are the documentation, the 180+ dictionaries, the
 extensions, templates, artwork, the extra free packages, etc., etc..  I
 did not fee that a DVD should contain only the basic install files for
 LibreOffice.  That would be a waste of a DVD. So it got filled with a lot
 of things that I [and others] thought a user might want to have with
 him/her on a DVD so that they did not have to go looking for it
 elsewhere.  I must have 99% of the dictionaries that can work with
 LibreOffice, unless you get them via any language packages, like you need
 for a Linux install.
 
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.5
 On 07/21/2012 05:44 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  I am curious as to what the 2gb of extras contain! I am considering
  purchasing a dvd but not sure if it is able to be shipped to New Zealand
  if it could that would be great!
  
  On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 04:07 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
  On 07/20/2012 10:08 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
  Thanks to Drew, we now have a service that will print-on-demand a
  copy of the LibreOffice North American Community DVD - version 3.5.5.
  
  Here is a link for a direct retail page:
  http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00B1FF2L
  **Kunaki handles all the payment collection.**
  
  [...]
  
  Well done, Drew! I had been researching manufacturers, this is the same
  used by Raphael Hertzog to distribute his Debian remix:
  http://raphaelhertzog.com/products/debian-cd-dvd/
  
  I had that in my personal ToDo for a while
  (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD#ToDo), glad
  you're validating it. If/when you have a sample of what they ship, it'd
  be important to have pictures. I'll order one to carry it and use as a
  demo. I plan to finish my local design and use the same ship by
  september.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Fabian Rodriguez
  http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca
  
  
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Re: New Zealand connection,was Fw: Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD

2012-07-24 Thread Anthony Easthope
I must say that we down under are now slowly undertaking a country wide
program to get majority of the country connected through fibre. I for
one had a digger parked on my front lawn for 2 weeks while they where
laying it down my street. only there is a catch to this scheme we are
unable to connect to it until 2015! or at least thats for my region
(taranaki)

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, at 05:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Ahh, finally i got this far back in the thread!
 
 Didn't New Zealand win the Best backdrop award at the Oscars?  Surely
 that has to count for something! 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
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 From: Russell Wilson russwilso...@yahoo.com.au
 Subject: Re: New Zealand connection, was Fw: Re: [libreoffice-users] now
 can Purchase a NA-DVD
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 24 July, 2012, 15:15
 
 try  starting with something like 1/4 population of New York, 1000 times
 its surface area, and 1/4 of 1% of its financial worth
 
 Russell
 Dunedin, New Zealand
 
 snip /
 
 
 Tom Davies wrote:
  Weird.  I assumed it was all done by satellites and that was why the 
  connection to the outside world had such limited bandwidth and was so slow.
 
 Satellites are so 20th century.  ;-)
 
 Actually, with all the fibre cables that have been laid around the world, I 
 don't understand how NZ could have such poor connections.
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi 

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is
there a suitable sudo get-apt install code?

on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to
10gb worth of them!

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:36 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts.  I am a 
 font person so I should know this.  I have over 100,000 of them in my 
 collection.
 
 Do you want to install the core fonts on  you Ubuntu system?  I run both 
 10.04 and 12.04.
 
 If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, 
 you get something like
 
 ttf-mscorefonts-installer
 
 That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I 
 am typing from here.
 
 Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most 
 of the Windows versions from XP to Win7.  Since I tend to have 200+ 
 fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track 
 of the names of the current core fonts.  There are references to them 
 in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to 
 know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some 
 font choosing in a web site's CSS theme.  I use to do that.
 
 SO,
 if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS 
 thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package.  
 It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned.  BUT, if you really 
 need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the 
 free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back.  I really have not 
 looked for many new ones lately.
 
 
 
 On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Hi
 
  I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
  After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
  on what they would consider to be core fonts.
  I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
  so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
  single one of them!

 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
I am curious as to what the 2gb of extras contain! I am considering
purchasing a dvd but not sure if it is able to be shipped to New Zealand
if it could that would be great!

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 04:07 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
 On 07/20/2012 10:08 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
  Thanks to Drew, we now have a service that will print-on-demand a 
  copy of the LibreOffice North American Community DVD - version 3.5.5.
 
  Here is a link for a direct retail page:
  http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00B1FF2L
  **Kunaki handles all the payment collection.**
 
 [...]
 
 Well done, Drew! I had been researching manufacturers, this is the same 
 used by Raphael Hertzog to distribute his Debian remix:
 http://raphaelhertzog.com/products/debian-cd-dvd/
 
 I had that in my personal ToDo for a while 
 (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD#ToDo), glad 
 you're validating it. If/when you have a sample of what they ship, it'd 
 be important to have pictures. I'll order one to carry it and use as a 
 demo. I plan to finish my local design and use the same ship by
 september.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Fabian Rodriguez
 http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was
using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to
why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote:
If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened
to
 me a few times -
my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches
[CCleaner
 is good] - re-start the computer;
when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again.
 
One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were
 some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might
 not be as good a program as it is  ;-)
 
Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine
 only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept
 them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these
 robotic eyes  :-)
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov
 mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote:
 
 I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze.
 
  The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for
  about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the
  network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in
  all. LO then completes startup.
 
  This happens
  - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the
  pause and network requesting still happen)
  - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO
  document through a file manager
  - with Java RE option on or off
 
  With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second
  LO document. The pause only occurs during startup.
 
  How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that
  it opens without the 10-second pause?
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a
ccleaner equivalent for debian

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
 Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was
 using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to
 why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be.
 
 On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote:
 If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened
 to
  me a few times -
 my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches
 [CCleaner
  is good] - re-start the computer;
 when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again.
  
 One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were
  some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might
  not be as good a program as it is  ;-)
  
 Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine
  only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept
  them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these
  robotic eyes  :-)
  
  
  
  On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov
  mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote:
  
  I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze.
  
   The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for
   about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over 
   the
   network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in
   all. LO then completes startup.
  
   This happens
   - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the
   pause and network requesting still happen)
   - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO
   document through a file manager
   - with Java RE option on or off
  
   With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second
   LO document. The pause only occurs during startup.
  
   How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that
   it opens without the 10-second pause?
  
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startup

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
 If there is no registry or temporary paging system within the OS then
 how does that work? It is a curiosity within itself 
:D
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:57 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I run Ubuntu. As I understand it, Linux (including Ubuntu) doesn't use a 
 registry, therefore you don't need to have a registry cleaner.
 
 Don
 
 
 On 07/21/2012 05:50 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Infact your workaround could work in theory, the problem is finding a
  ccleaner equivalent for debian
 
  On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 11:48 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Anne that work around works on windows but as the gentlemen said he was
  using debian squeze which is a variation of linux. I am curious as to
  why it is hanging to - by rights it should not be.
 
  On Fri, 20 Jul 2012, at 09:15 PM, anne-ology wrote:
  If you're referring to it getting hung-up, then this has happened
  to
  me a few times -
  my solution is to shut it down - clear out the caches
  [CCleaner
  is good] - re-start the computer;
  when it re-starts, OO/LO works great again.
 
  One of the problems with OO/LO is its immense size; if there were
  some way to reduce its size then this might not occur, but then it might
  not be as good a program as it is  ;-)
 
  Mine is not caused by 'calling home or anywhere' since my machine
  only allows 'cookies', etc. which I accept and only at the time I accept
  them; in fact, each time I've tested my machine, it's invisible to these
  robotic eyes  :-)
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Robert Mesibov
  mesi...@southcom.com.auwrote:
 
  I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze.
  The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for
  about 10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over 
  the
  network connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in
  all. LO then completes startup.
 
  This happens
  - with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the
  pause and network requesting still happen)
  - when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO
  document through a file manager
  - with Java RE option on or off
 
  With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second
  LO document. The pause only occurs during startup.
 
  How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that
  it opens without the 10-second pause?
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice GNOME 3 Compatibility

2012-07-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi Guys

Just had a problem with LO after installing the GNOME 3 shell on ubuntu
12.04 lts. it appears that LO window now bleeds from the bottom right
edge when using opening a Calc window. it never occurs any other time:

Some trouble shooting data
* LO 3.5.2
* LO was updated by the repositry 
* ATI Raedon Linux version Graphics
* compaq presario cq 20

any available fix?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice GNOME 3 Compatibility

2012-07-18 Thread Anthony Easthope
The problem was fixed. All that was needed was a re installation of the
shell.
as to why I was using GNOME. it was a matter of curiosity as I am new to
unix (only had it for 2 weeks on the laptop)  I wanted to experience
all that it had to offer me. still have a long way to go yet but GNOME 3
on my system is working fine and I would dare say that it when combined
with Docky makes a very nice environment to work in. there is a trade
off though. if you use it you lose assess to the Home Dash as it is a
core part of unity I believe. A good thing to rerember is that if your
windows key is mapped correctly it brings it up as well as the HUD
:)
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, at 09:02 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 There was a thread about problems with the desktop environment and LO 
 with the darker desktop themes, I think.
 
 ---
 
 My question is why are you using GNOME 3 shell for 12.04?  From my 
 readings of articles about the current GNOME 3 shell, it is still not 
 fully functional, or at least the last article[s] seem to state.
 
 I have no problem with LO using 12.04 and MATE for the desktop 
 substitution instead of GNOME 3 shell.  I wanted my desktop to look as 
 much like the GNOME desktop that 10.04 has, so I went with MATE and it 
 works great.
 
 That is why I went with MATE for Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop that was 
 updated from 10.04 to 12.04 and the added MATE to get it working like I 
 needed.
 
 I run LO 3.5.4 on all my Ubuntu and Windows systems at this point.
 
 On 07/18/2012 03:16 AM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Hi Guys
 
  Just had a problem with LO after installing the GNOME 3 shell on ubuntu
  12.04 lts. it appears that LO window now bleeds from the bottom right
  edge when using opening a Calc window. it never occurs any other time:
 
  Some trouble shooting data
  * LO 3.5.2
  * LO was updated by the repositry
  * ATI Raedon Linux version Graphics
  * compaq presario cq 20
 
  any available fix?
  cheers Anthony
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No help in LO

2012-07-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
By bundle I kind of envisaged all of the webpages collated together in a
pdf or something like that, I will definitely join!.
I am also a graphic designer  music producer in my spare time going by
the Alias Antisocky
If you google my alias you will find some of my work.
any way I really wish there was a way in which I could truly contribute
as LO has been such an asset to me during this year at school!

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, at 07:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 The Docs Team rarely gets involved in any coding!  You are welcome to
 join their team and help out there!  It's not easy to figure-out how to
 start being active but once you do it's reasonably easy to get stuck into
 work without having to worry about that sort of thing.  
 
 I'm not completely sure what you mean by bundled.  The individual
 chapters are bundled into complete books but i think you mean something
 else.
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Sat, 14/7/12, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com wrote:
 
 From: Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No help in LO
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 14 July, 2012, 5:43
 
 As an after thought is there a way in which one could collaborate the
 online documentation into a bundle?
 I would be willing to lend a hand if there was no coding involved :P
 
 
 On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, at 11:56 AM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
  Tom, et al,
  I might also add that I have read a few of the manuals, such as Writer, 
  Calc, Base and Draw and, although it is very good compared to, say, the 
  OO 2.4 era, it sometimes states to use Help for more information or 
  details. So, Help is needed to be complete. I have used Help 
  occasionally and you are right in that sometimes it is incomplete or 
  downright incorrect, but it is better than trial and error.
  Girvin Herr
  
  
  Tom Davies wrote:
   Hi :)
   Lol, that is not complete disagreement! I agree it's handy to have both 
   but if you are missing the built-in help then view it as a feature not a 
   bug.  Afaik the Help was last updated for the 3.3.0 and there have been 
   quite a few changes since then.  
   Regards from
   Tom :)  
  
  
   --- On Fri, 13/7/12, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: No help in LO
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Date: Friday, 13 July, 2012, 10:53
  
  
   Tom wrote
     
   Forget the help. 
   ...
   The help is growing a bit ragged around the edges as it is getting
   out-dated quite fast.
  
       
  
   I disagree completely. Do get the offline help. It is a quite efficient 
   and
   handy quick reference for LibreOffice even if it is(?) outdated.
  
   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86〈=en-GBversion=3.5.5
  
   (notice the second button)
  
   I agree with Tom the Publications are VERY good, but it's not exactly the
   same as pressing F1
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Saving protected spreadsheets in different format

2012-07-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
It is ok as if you think about in a logical way as it is the logical
event in the sequence of steps that LO takes when exporting the file. It
does sound weird though and could lead to trouble if you somehow
overwrite the old password when changing it during the export process. 
Interesting 

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, at 09:17 PM, Milos Sramek wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is it a bug or not?
 
 1. I open an xls file with a sheet with cells protected by a password
 2. I save it in odf format - no messages, works without problems
 3. I open the new odf file and want to save it in xls. LO requires 
 change of the password (without asking for the original one)
 
 Is it OK that LO asks for the password change when saving from odf to 
 xls but not when saving from odf to xls?
 What do you think?
 
 (according to the help it is ok that LO can change the password, I am 
 asking only about the different behavior in  similar situations)
 
 Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. onDebian

2012-07-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
I am quite excited about this release and can't wait to run it on Ubuntu
LTS 12.04! I must say its sad to see no major updates to the
biblographing section. I am hanging in there for the stable release.

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, at 08:15 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi AG :)
 It is a good idea to run the 3.6.0 beta in parallel with your existing
 version.
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
 
 There is no need to wipe one in order to run the other.  However stable
 something is on other people's machines (or unstable for that matter) is
 irrelevant.  What matters is how stable it is on YOUR machine and that is
 something no-one knows until YOU try it.  
 
 One advantage with test-driving the early pre-releases of a branch is
 that IF you have problems then it's easy to catch the devs interest in
 fixing it while they are keen and excited about the new branch.  Waiting
 until everyone else is using it means the devs attention is more divided
 between everyone else's issues.  
 
 Typically a new branch means a big step up to a new plateaux of increased
 compatibility with MS formats, faster start-up and operation, very much
 increased functionality and a slightly sexier lookfeel.  
 
 I would definitely recommend taking the 3.6.0 beta out for a test-drive
 as much as possible asap but keep your older version lurking in the
 back-ground somewhere jic.  Why wait for other people?  
 
 Good luck and regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Fri, 13/7/12, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 15:16 +0100, AG wrote:
 
 snip /
 
  
  Hi Drew
  
  I noticed from the video that you are using 3.6 beta. How long have you 
  been using it for and is sufficiently stable to rely on for academic 
  work? Any noticeable advantages over 3.5.*?
  
 
 Actually over all it seems rather stable - I've run into rough spots
 with one extension is all.
 
 As for the video being 'so yesterday' - seems 3.5 RC1 is out and ready -
 from the announcement a few minutes ago:
 
 Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.0 RC1 is not ready for
 production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.5 for that.
 
 The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
 builds download page at
 
   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
 
 The (still growing) list of features for the upcoming 3.6.0 is on our
 wiki - please help filling gaps there, e.g. by providing more
 screenshots:
 
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.6 
 
 so - I haven't tired that RC with my problematic extension, it is still
 only a 'candidate'.
 
 //drew
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. onDebian

2012-07-14 Thread Anthony Easthope
Great! this has been a great find and is exactly what i need! i was
forced to use MO for awhile as a paper I was doing needed Referencing :)
continuing my love for opensource!

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012, at 01:08 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 On 14/07/2012 at 09:52, Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com wrote:
 
  I must say its sad to see no major updates to the
  biblographing section.
 
 Yeah, this is really important feature for scientific writing, yet no one
 seems 
 to bother about it.
 
 I have used Zotero[1] for few of my papers. So far so good. You can give
 it 
 a try. It is open-source software, so you can use it free of charge.
 There is 
 also package in Debian repository (xul-ext-zotero - this is
 Iceweasel/Firefox 
 extension version). Perhaps you will find it also in Ubuntu.
 
 [1] http://www.zotero.org/
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. onDebian

2012-07-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
I thought most debian releases had unity or at least GNOME 3 as their
GUI and they all feature a Dock.
It could be that quick starter is unique to the windows release as
windows has that proviso on the taskbar

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, at 12:11 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 On 12/07/2012 at 18:25, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Can you please elaborate - or direct me to a site that explains - the
  handy menu part that can be replicated with the desktop environment?
 
 I have never used quickstarter (for LO or OOo), but I can imagine it's 
 something like:
 right-click on icon in tray
 → Open LO Writer
 → Open LO Calc
 → Open LO Impress
 and so on.
 
 So, it's a way to quickly open LO component of choice. And this indeed
 can be 
 easily reproduced with any/most of environments.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No help in LO

2012-07-13 Thread Anthony Easthope
As an after thought is there a way in which one could collabarate the
online documentation into a bundle?
I would be willing to lend a hand if there was no coding involved :P


On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, at 11:56 AM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 Tom, et al,
 I might also add that I have read a few of the manuals, such as Writer, 
 Calc, Base and Draw and, although it is very good compared to, say, the 
 OO 2.4 era, it sometimes states to use Help for more information or 
 details. So, Help is needed to be complete. I have used Help 
 occasionally and you are right in that sometimes it is incomplete or 
 downright incorrect, but it is better than trial and error.
 Girvin Herr
 
 
 Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  Lol, that is not complete disagreement! I agree it's handy to have both but 
  if you are missing the built-in help then view it as a feature not a 
  bug.  Afaik the Help was last updated for the 3.3.0 and there have been 
  quite a few changes since then.  
  Regards from
  Tom :)Â  
 
 
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  From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: No help in LO
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Friday, 13 July, 2012, 10:53
 
 
  Tom wrote

  Forget the help. 
  ...
  The help is growing a bit ragged around the edges as it is getting
  out-dated quite fast.
 
  
 
  I disagree completely. Do get the offline help. It is a quite efficient and
  handy quick reference for LibreOffice even if it is(?) outdated.
 
  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86〈=en-GBversion=3.5.5
 
  (notice the second button)
 
  I agree with Tom the Publications are VERY good, but it's not exactly the
  same as pressing F1
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to install medical dictionary?

2012-06-24 Thread Anthony Easthope
ok. you should of  installed it in the following way:

Download the file
Browse to where it is saved on your hard drive
Right click on it and select open with - libreoffice

LO will then automatically install it and you should be able to find it
installed within the exstensions list that you can access from the start
up menu

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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012, at 04:07 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
 I have downloaded a medical dictionary (en-us-openmedspel.oxt) but can't
 find where
 to put the file.
 
 In LO 3.3 I would put it in
 /usr/share/lib64/libreoffice/extensions/language but
 I can't find that directory in LO 3.5 (build 392).  I also haven't been
 able to find
 a language folder in any of the paths.
 
 Where do I put this file in LO 3.5 in order to access it when needed?  I
 looked in
 the help section but found it rather vague about dictionaries, nothing
 about where
 they are stored.
 
 Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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[libreoffice-users] Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

2012-06-20 Thread Anthony Easthope
Hi guys

I have been recently been given a project where I have to sign my
Document with a personal signature (as in a certificate) 
Now I know that you can do this with LO but what I am confused about as
to how I can get a Personal User Certificate that is able to identify me
 is at not cost to my self. If some one would be able to advise me on
where to get one  how best to install the certificate for use withing
LO that would be of a huge help! (:

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

2012-06-20 Thread Anthony Easthope
I am currently using Windows 7 and thanks for the quick response :)


On Wed, Jun 20, 2012, at 05:59 PM, Marc Grober wrote:
 
  I have been recently been given a project where I have to sign my
  Document with a personal signature (as in a certificate)
  Now I know that you can do this with LO but what I am confused about as
  to how I can get a Personal User Certificate that is able to identify me
is at not cost to my self. If some one would be able to advise me on
  where to get one  how best to install the certificate for use withing
  LO that would be of a huge help! (:
 
 get a cert from CACert.org
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5 Installation problem

2012-06-19 Thread Anthony Easthope
Check within the Program files 86 folder and also within
temporary/roaming data incase it left behind system data


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 09:20 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
 On 06/19/2012 08:58 PM, Brian Charlton wrote:
  Hello,
 
  As I said in my first email, Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium.
 I missed it, my apols.
 
  I have tried downloading again - and the Beta release of 3.6 and still get
  the same problem.
 
  Note that the message I am getting refers to LO 3.5 Quickstarter, but it is
  not installed at that stage. After removind LO 3.4, I still got the same
  message and failure.
 
  I am at a loss.
 Try using RevoUninstaller as suggested by Tom. I believe there is a free 
 version to remove the leftovers from the Windows uninstall. I understand 
 Windows sometimes leaves stuff behind when using the MS supplied 
 uninstaller. (I use Linux so I normally do not deal with Windows 
 specific issues).
 
  Brian
 
  On 20 June 2012 09:40, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 06/19/2012 07:20 PM, Brian Charlton wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Thanks for the responses, but I have tried all the options mentioned and
  still get the same result. I now do not have LibreOffice at all!!!
 
  Because 3.4 is no longer available, I tried the Release Candidate, but
  that
  failed as well.
 
  What am I doing wrong?
 
  Brian
 
  Curious, what is your OS?
 
  Try downloading LO again, I am assuming you have a corrupted install file.
  This can be checked by comparing your hash with the one listed.
 
 
  On 19 June 2012 17:43, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
Hi :)
  As Dave said there are a few different ways to do this.  A couple more
  ways
  1.  The best way is to uninstall the 3.4.x
 
  2.  Alternatively before trying to install the 3.5.x 'just' open the
  3.4.x
  and go to
  Tools - Options - Memory
  and untick the option that is something like Start-up/Load LibreOffice
  on
  system start-up/reboot/boot but then to make sure you properly install
  the
  3.5.x alongside the 3.4 to keep both
  http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/**Installing_in_parallelhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
 
  Dave's 1st option is probably the fastest way to deal with it.
  Regards from
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  From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5 Installation problem
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Tuesday, 19 June, 2012, 8:27
 
   Original Message  
  From: Brian Charlton briangcharl...@gmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:36:53 +1000
 
Hello,
  I am trying to install LibreOffice 3.5 on my Windows 7 64-bit system,
  but
  it fails to complete.
 
  I go through the process and click the Install Button, The UAC then
 
  appears
 
  and I click that. Shortly after I get a separate widow which says:
 
Please exit LibreOffice 3.5 and the LibreOffice Quickstarter before 
  you
  continue with an OK button
 
  On clicking the OK button, the window disappears and the main installer
  tells me that:
 
The wizard was interrupted before LibreOffice 3.5 could be completely
  installed with a Finish Button.
 
  I have tried several times. How can I make this a successful
 
  installation?
 
  (I am a current user of LibreOffice 3.4)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Brian Charlton
 
Did you try what the installer suggested and exit the LibreOffice
  Quickstarter (right click on the icon in the taskbar tray) then try
  again. Alternatively, open Windows Task Manager and end any processes
  named soffice.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spell checking

2012-06-19 Thread Anthony Easthope
I found this problem a while ago as well but I found it was fixed with a
re installation of the dictionary packages so I suppose it might be a
good idea to re download them all again 

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012, at 08:28 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 06/16/2012 07:38 AM, Allen Myers wrote:
  Please, can you correct your spell checking program: UK English does NOT
  spell defensive and offensive with a c in place of the s.
  
  
 
 Where did you get this dictionary from?
 
 Looking at the en_GB.dic file provided by LO 3.5 I see:
 
 defence/52  1
 defenceless/73  1
 defend/10   1
 defendant/2 1
 defender/2  1
 defenestrate/6  1
 defenestration/21
 defensibility/5 1
 defensible/17   1
 defensive/731  no 'c' there
 
 offence/9   1
 offend/10   1
 offended1
 offender/2  1
 offensive/451  no 'c' there either
 
 en_US.dic shows the same:
 defensive/239   1
 offensive/361
 
 So again, where did you get your dictionary from? Have you added an
 additional dictionary?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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