Re: [libreoffice-users] AltSearch extension no longer listed

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Thank you, Robert. The URL has changed (from 
show/alternative-dialog-find-replace-for-writer to show/70066). Maybe the 
search tool took a while to pick it up, since I'm sure (pretty sure) that I 
tried doing a search again before sending my message.
- Robert #2


From: Robert Großkopf 
Sent: April 15, 2024 16:20
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AltSearch extension no longer listed

Hi Robert,

> I can no longer find AltSearch (Alternative Find & Replace for Writer) at 
> https://extensions.libreoffice.org. Can 
> anyone else find it?

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/70066

Seems to be updated 17 hours ago.

Regards

Robert (Großkopf)


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[libreoffice-users] AltSearch extension no longer listed

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

I can no longer find AltSearch (Alternative Find & Replace for Writer) at 
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/. Can anyone else find it?

According to https://web.archive.org, it was still there as of 2024 Mar 10.

It's very old and unmaintained, and apparently it's buggy (e.g., 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38261#c28), but it has 
always done what I needed. It is still available at 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/AltSearch.

Thank you.

- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Annoying reformatting issue.

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Chris -

I would try the Alternative Find and Replace extension. It's very old and 
unmaintained, and apparently it's buggy (e.g., 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38261#c28), but it has 
always done what I needed. I can't find it now at 
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/ but it is still at 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/AltSearch.

- Robert


From: Chris J. 
Sent: April 13, 2024 12:10
To: lo user help 
Cc: Chris Johnson 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Annoying reformatting issue.

Hi,

Ubuntu linux 23.10

LibreOffice 7.6.5.2

Before I had figured out what styles could do in Writer, I made the
newbie mistake of hand formatting everything. You can see where this is
going. I only needed a massively huge three styles to do everything I
needed. Most story submissions are pretty much the same format
requirements. If I even need another I just make new style. Very handy.

In both cases I have the same problem, although the first is a tad more
complicated as there are tabs to be removed. I have three styles. For
stories that's all you need; chapter heading, paragraph, and scene
change. At least that's all I've ever needed.

So, question; is there a way to automate the application of the styles
and remove the tabs at the beginning of paragraphs. Normal find and
replaces doesn't cut it. Otherwise I'm forced to go through several
books by hand.

Thank you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Stuart: Thanks for pointing out this new Spotlight feature. I'd somehow missed 
seeing it in the release notes. (The release notes refer to Highlight rather 
than Spotlight.) It tells you that some direct formatting exists but it doesn't 
seem to say what it is or where it is. (I have an example where it says there's 
direct formatting for some paragraphs but I can't find any format changes.)

Thomas: If upgrading to the latest version (now version 24.2) doesn't help, 
could you make the document available somewhere?

- Robert


From: V Stuart Foote 
Sent: March 27, 2024 06:56
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: Thomas Blasejewicz 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

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On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

> Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but
> includes a few Chinese characters
>
> -> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
> If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is -
> and how do I correct it?

Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied
Paragraph and Character styling.
Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the Sidebar (checkbox bottom
right), and as menu entries via the main Format -> Spotlight

Available at the 7.6.0 release, so time to update. See the release
notes: 
https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.documentfoundation.org%2FReleaseNotes%2F7.6%23Writer=05%7C02%7Crobert.funnell%40mcgill.ca%7C9c8ed98bbe754ed197c608dc4e4cafba%7Ccd31967152e74a68afa9fcf8f89f09ea%7C0%7C0%7C638471338478244869%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=FC%2BsQtD787nrzkuIEKU904VNiZ7SxbRoMraK4K5%2Fnko%3D=0

Regards,

Stuart

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From: V Stuart Foote 
Sent: March 27, 2024 06:56
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: Thomas Blasejewicz 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

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Thomas, *

On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

> Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but
> includes a few Chinese characters
>
> -> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
> If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is -
> and how do I correct it?

Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied
Paragraph and Character styling.
Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the Sidebar (checkbox bottom
right), and as menu entries via the main Format -> Spotlight

Available 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer, how to replace Manual Page Breaks (CNTRL-ENTER) with a printable character string.

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Honorato -

I missed seeing your message. I think you can do what you want using the 
Alternative Find & Replace extension 
(https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/alternative-dialog-find-replace-for-writer).
 As described at http://macrojtb.hys.cz/HelpAltSearch_en.html, specify \m to 
find manual page breaks and specify \r (in the Replace field) to remove them.

- Robert


From: Mike Flannigan 
Sent: March 26, 2024 08:59
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: honoratomor...@yahoo.es 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer, how to replace Manual Page Breaks 
(CNTRL-ENTER) with a printable character string.


You did a good job of explaining your problem.
Sorry we do not have an answer to your question.


Mike


On 3/20/24 09:09, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote:
> Subject:
> [libreoffice-users] Writer, how to replace Manual Page Breaks
> (CNTRL-ENTER) with a printable character string.
> From:
> honorato moreno ruiz 
> Date:
> 3/19/24, 14:04
>
> To:
> "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>
>
>   Good afternoon. Sorry my English
> I need to replace Manual Page Breaks (CNTRL-ENTER) with a printable character 
> string.
> My problem is that the "Search" function does not distinguish the Manual Page 
> Break from the Paragraph Break (ENTER). That is, putting the expression "$" 
> in the "Search" field gives me both the Page Breaks and the Paragraph Breaks. 
> This way it replaces all of them, the page ones and the paragraph ones, which 
> is not what I want (I need to keep the paragraph ones).
> In other words, I can't find the regular expression to search for Page Break 
> and it doesn't give me paragraph breaks at the same time.
> There is a similar question in April 2023, which can be found by "Remove 
> manual page breaks in Writer". But the solution does not work for me, because 
> my colleague pjferra needed to replace the page breaks with paragraph breaks, 
> and Kyodake responds, correctly, to that need in which it does not matter to 
> replace the two types of breaks in the operation, since they are replaced by 
> paragraph breaks.
> Has this situation arisen before for you? Have you managed to solve it?
> Thank you so much for your attention.
> Honorato Moreno



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reference manager adding into LibreOffice writer

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Şerife -

I don't know about Mendeley, but Zotero works well with LO Writer. Just follow 
the instructions at https://www.zotero.org/support/installation. As explained 
at https://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_integration, 'the word 
processor plugins are bundled with Zotero and should be installed automatically 
for each supported word processor on your computer when you first start Zotero.'

- Robert


From: Şerife ÇAKIR 
Sent: March 25, 2024 03:46
To: Users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Reference manager adding into LibreOffice writer


Hi,
I have a trouble. I am writing my thesis and using LibreOffice writer
instead of Office Word. But I am not adding Mendeley or the other reference
adding extensions, like Zotero, endnote into LibreOffice. I need it
immediately. Can you help me about it? I don't want to enter for each
reference by manual. I want to add automatically with an extension, like
Mendeley.

Thanks in advance. Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

The detail is interesting, and also helps to understand the context. I'm more 
familiar with page styles than with sections, but a quick search suggests that 
sections will do what you need. If your changes in the number of columns always 
occur at page breaks, page styles might be more elegant, but whatever works for 
you ... :-) Good luck with getting your father's poems printed the way you want 
them.
- Robert


From: Keith Jackson 
Sent: March 19, 2024 12:55
To: W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single 
page

I wanted to avoid defining page styles since this requires, I assume, switching 
back and forth between styles on some pages and is more sophistication than I 
want to get into.  Also it would require me to thoroughly understand styles.

My father, or maybe my stepmother, had typed in his collection of poems years 
ago on a semi-fancy paper and assembled them into a “book” held together by a 
cerlox binding.  He gave copies to his sons and daughter and possible to one or 
two other family members or family friends.  I’m trying to retain the 
appearance of his pages in my digital copy.  Unfortunately, my father died in 
2018 so asking him about any of this is impossible.

I had planned to type and enter his poems into a text document of some kind 
years ago but entering it all by hand was onerous since I’m not a touch typist 
and I stopped this endeavour.

But more recently I have discovered that OCR (optical character recognition) 
has improved vastly since the last time I tried it.  I discovered, while doing 
something else, that I could photo the pages of his book with my cell phone, 
then use Google Lens to select and copy just the text from these pages. I 
mailed the text to myself. Then saved the text into page files (rtf (rich text 
format) files) and the text was preserved and there was almost never any 
extraneous characters.

Because this capture process lost the line structure of the poems, I had to 
edit every page file and re-establish the poem line structure.  That’s all done 
(including correcting some minor spelling and grammatical mistakes in the 
process) and I am now trying to assemble the poems into a single Word document 
using LibreOffice.

My ultimate plan is to use this file to print copies of his poems into 
hardcover book copies.  One of my brothers has lost or misplaced his copy of 
the cerlox book already.  I know there are relatively inexpensive places to get 
a small number of books like this printed so I will distribute his poems to 
family members and possibly friends as a more durable medium for his poetry.

Sorry for the detail but just thought you might be interested.
Another person was very helpful and suggested using sections for the 2 and 3 
column pages.  So, I’m going to try that approach since it sounds excellent.

Keith



On Mar 19, 2024, at 12:18 PM, W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
mailto:robert.funn...@mcgill.ca>> wrote:

Keith -

Have you considered defining 2-column and 3-column page styles? Press F11 to 
see the Styles dialogue; click on the icon for Page Styles; right-click on 
'Default Page Style'; and click on 'New'. There's a tab for Columns. When you 
want to switch page styles, you can do Insert > More Breaks > Manual Break. 
Then select 'Page break' and the desired style for the next page.

- Robert


From: Keith Jackson mailto:kmjack...@sympatico.ca>>
Sent: March 19, 2024 11:56
To: Mike Flannigan mailto:mf...@mflan.com>>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> 
mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

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Thanks, Mike, for your suggestion.

I had 3 ideas actually based on what I saw in the LibreOffice Writer manual.
I wondered if Frames, or Sections, or Tables were the best approach since it 
looked like any of these might work.
Having 3 tables side by side on the same page might work but I think text for 
that page would have to be manually inserted into the tables and it wouldn’t 
flow automatically from the first to the second and to the third table.

I wasn’t clear on the application of frames or sections to do this which is why 
I thought I’d ask the support email.
another person wrote me and basically suggested a section as the best solution.

But your suggestion was much appreciated.

Thanks,
Keith


> On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Mike Flannigan 
> mailto:mf...@mflan.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Setting individual tables that are left aligned, or center
> aligned, or right aligned may be a good option.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/19/24 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Keith -

Have you considered defining 2-column and 3-column page styles? Press F11 to 
see the Styles dialogue; click on the icon for Page Styles; right-click on 
'Default Page Style'; and click on 'New'. There's a tab for Columns. When you 
want to switch page styles, you can do Insert > More Breaks > Manual Break. 
Then select 'Page break' and the desired style for the next page.

- Robert


From: Keith Jackson 
Sent: March 19, 2024 11:56
To: Mike Flannigan 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

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Thanks, Mike, for your suggestion.

I had 3 ideas actually based on what I saw in the LibreOffice Writer manual.
I wondered if Frames, or Sections, or Tables were the best approach since it 
looked like any of these might work.
Having 3 tables side by side on the same page might work but I think text for 
that page would have to be manually inserted into the tables and it wouldn’t 
flow automatically from the first to the second and to the third table.

I wasn’t clear on the application of frames or sections to do this which is why 
I thought I’d ask the support email.
another person wrote me and basically suggested a section as the best solution.

But your suggestion was much appreciated.

Thanks,
Keith


> On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Mike Flannigan  wrote:
>
>
> Setting individual tables that are left aligned, or center
> aligned, or right aligned may be a good option.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/19/24 09:06, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org 
>  wrote:
>>
>> users_59192.eml
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page
>> From: Keith Jackson  
>> Date: 3/18/24, 20:57
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>> You may have seen this question many times so I will apologize in advance 
>> for asking it.
>>
>> I have a Writer document formatted as docx.  It will contain some of my 
>> father’s poems but I have a need on a few pages to have the poem appear in 
>> two or three columns on a page continuing from the bottom of, or a specified 
>> point in, the first column to the second column and, in one case, to a third 
>> column.  The text must not wrap within each column because it is lines of 
>> poetry.
>>
>> Can you tell me the best way to do this?   I’ve checked the manual and have 
>> some ideas but would appreciate someone guiding me to the best  method to do 
>> this.
>>
>> Thank you for your time in advance.   Oh, and in case it is important, I am 
>> using LibreOffice 7.3.7.2.
>>
>> Keith Jackson
>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>>
>


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From: Keith Jackson 
Sent: March 19, 2024 11:56
To: Mike Flannigan 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: 

Re: [libreoffice-users] A curiosity.

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Chris -

Writer recognizes a paragraph by the fact that you pressed the Enter key. If 
you select Formatting Marks in the View menu, you'll see paragraph symbols (¶) 
where Writer thinks there are paragraph breaks. Whether the first line is 
indented or not should be controlled by the paragraph style that you're using, 
not by explicitly using the tab character.

(One way of editing the current paragraph style is to right-click somewhere 
inside a paragraph and then, in the menu that pops up, select Paragraph and 
then Edit Style, and look under Indents & Spacing. It's recommended to use the 
Text Body style for most of your paragraphs, not the Default Paragraph Style.)

- Robert


From: Chris J. 
Sent: January 27, 2024 12:59
To: lo user help 
Cc: Chris Johnson 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] A curiosity.

Hi.

This isn't so much a problem as a curiosity.

Running Libre Office 7.6.4.1 on Ubuntu linux 23.10.

In Writer, very simple format that matches most submission requirements,
nothing fancy. New paragraphs get indented with a tab. Very often, not
quite always, There's a little green squiggle under the first character,
double quotes for dialogue, or a word, narration. That little green
squiggle means Writer has a question or suggestion about something. If I
left click on it, very often it tells me I should delete the white space
in front of it.

I'm confused. Does Writer know from paragraphs or not? Is there
something I should be doing to signify a new paragraph other than tab?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding hotkey

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Jarek -

I wasn't aware of that shortcut (I close LibreOffice by clicking on the X 
button or by using Ctrl+Q) but I looked it up in the Customize > Keyboard 
dialogue (in LO 7.6.4.1). For me, Alt+F4 is greyed out so it can't be modified 
or deleted. Ctrl-F4, which apparently does the same thing, is also greyed out. 
Is that not the case for you?

- Robert


From: Jarek.Krcmar 
Sent: December 28, 2023 10:22
To: Users Libreoffice 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Adding hotkey

Hello, I'm writing to you because I managed to delete the access control
by deleting the alt + 7 shortcut. But I accidentally deleted the alt +
F4 shortcut because now I can't close Libreoffice. Could you please
advise me how do I add the shortcut to the list? Thank you in advance
for your answer. Best regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Charles -

I admit that those instructions are confusing. Can you use the menus to go to 
Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > General? There, under Settings, you 
should see 'Measurement unit' and then 'Tab stops'. In that field, my 
LibreOffice says 1.25 cm, meaning that I have tab stops set every 1.25 cm 
across the page.

This was the default setting. It seems to be what you want, and I don't know 
why you don't have it. Are you using a special template file? What paragraph 
style are you using?

- Robert


From: charles meyer 
Sent: December 27, 2023 18:40
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

I see a lot of words on this page  but few make sense to me.

I want to set tabs so when I press the Tab key the 1st goes over to the
right a bit to the right then when I press the Tab key again it moves the
cursor incementaly ot eh right and so on.

Now, when I press the Tab key it moves the cursor about 1/4 of the way
across the page but when I press the Tab key again ity leaps the curso way
overot the right.

I don't see from the above link how to step by step (screenshots help here)
set the Tabs to move incermwentralt.

Thank you.

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Request for help About libreoffice

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Damian -

I can't see the images that you referred to, but what you described (Desktop 
icons look different than File Explorer icons do) sounds like behaviour that 
also applies to other programmes running under Windows. I don't know if there's 
a way to change the behaviour.

- Robert


From: Damian Witczak 
Sent: December 27, 2023 07:23
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Request for help About libreoffice

Hello and welcome.
I have a request for you regarding your program.
Because I have a problem that I installed your program on my computer, it works 
and is perfect, but there is one problem that bothers me and I can't find a way 
out of this problem.
Meaning.When I have files on my desktop, an icon appears with an image of the 
text inside the fileWhat does the first photo show, i.e. the p.s.s. file?And if 
I move the files to the folder, your program icons appear, as shown in the 
photo p.s.s 1
I can't set the images of icon files to be the same on my desktop as in the 
folder.
Can you please help me?
Best regards, Damian Witczak




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Hello and welcome.
I have a request for you regarding your program.
Because I have a problem that I installed your program on my computer, it works 
and is perfect, but there is one problem that bothers me and I can't find a way 
out of this problem.
Meaning.When I have files on my desktop, an icon appears with an image of the 
text inside the fileWhat does the first photo show, i.e. the p.s.s. file?And if 
I move the files to the folder, your program icons appear, as shown in the 
photo p.s.s 1
I can't set the images of icon files to be the same on my desktop as in the 
folder.
Can you please help me?
Best regards, Damian Witczak




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Indents

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Charles -

When I type in text and then press the space bar (the long key at the bottom of 
the keyboard), the cursor always goes exactly 1 space across the page. What 
you're describing sounds like the behaviour of the Tab key (on the upper left 
side of my keyboard, with arrows on it). It sounds as though your tab settings 
have been unset or removed for some reason.

There are instructions for setting the tab stops at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/6.2/en-GB/text/shared/guide/tabs.html. Does that 
help?

Please reply to the list (users@global.libreoffice.org) rather than directly to 
me.

- Robert


From: charles meyer 
Sent: December 27, 2023 17:58
To: W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Indents

I type in text, the press the space bar and instead of the cursor going 2-5 
spaces across the page it jumps almost to the end of the line.

In WordPerfect, I could set the Indents so that if I type text and then press 
the spacebar the cursor would move 2-4 spaces to the right and then I could 
press the space bar and the cursor would travel 3-4 spaces,etc etc.

How does one "set that up" in Writer?

Thanks,

Charles.

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 8:20 PM W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
mailto:robert.funn...@mcgill.ca>> wrote:
Charles -

I'm afraid that I don't understand what you mean.

For one thing, 'indent' refers to having the beginnings and/or the ends of 
lines spaced in from the margins, which doesn't seem to be what you mean.

If you're referring to wide white spaces between words in a line, the only time 
that happens with single space characters (that I can think of) is if (1) 
you're using full text justification (both the left and right sides of the text 
in a paragraph are aligned); and (2) you have a long string of unbroken text 
(e.g., a very long word or a URL) that must be wrapped onto the next line. That 
leaves a relatively small amount of text that needs to be stretched to fill the 
distance from margin to margin, resulting in wide spaces between words. That is 
more likely to happen if your text column is narrow.

Am I close to understanding what you mean?

- Robert


From: charles meyer mailto:reachmepl...@gmail.com>>
Sent: December 26, 2023 19:43
To: users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> 
mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Indents

Hi All,

Hope you're all enjoying good holiday cheer.

In Libre, is there a way to ensure that indents on each line go across the
page incrementally and  not huge indeed each time you press the Space Bar?

If not and you must use a Style, which Style have you found which gives you
incremental indeed in each line?

Thank you,

Charles.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Indents

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Charles -

I'm afraid that I don't understand what you mean.

For one thing, 'indent' refers to having the beginnings and/or the ends of 
lines spaced in from the margins, which doesn't seem to be what you mean.

If you're referring to wide white spaces between words in a line, the only time 
that happens with single space characters (that I can think of) is if (1) 
you're using full text justification (both the left and right sides of the text 
in a paragraph are aligned); and (2) you have a long string of unbroken text 
(e.g., a very long word or a URL) that must be wrapped onto the next line. That 
leaves a relatively small amount of text that needs to be stretched to fill the 
distance from margin to margin, resulting in wide spaces between words. That is 
more likely to happen if your text column is narrow.

Am I close to understanding what you mean?

- Robert


From: charles meyer 
Sent: December 26, 2023 19:43
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Indents

Hi All,

Hope you're all enjoying good holiday cheer.

In Libre, is there a way to ensure that indents on each line go across the
page incrementally and  not huge indeed each time you press the Space Bar?

If not and you must use a Style, which Style have you found which gives you
incremental indeed in each line?

Thank you,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] common to all pages header

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Does your first page have a 'First Page' page style rather than the 'Default 
Page Style'?
- Robert


From: Chris J. 
Sent: December 21, 2023 13:42
To: lo user help 
Cc: Chris Johnson 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] common to all pages header

Hi,

Next problem.

I can get a nice page number centered in a footer propagated for all
pages no problem.

I want to do the same kind of thing in the header, right justified with
some words preceding a page number.

Again, no problem for the first page only. For some reason it isn't
propagating to all the following headers on successive pages. Help much
appreciated, as always. Thank you.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

If you already have a scanned image, you can convert it to text using OCR 
software like Tesseract-OCR, which has already been mentioned. It is free and 
open-source, and is available for Linux, MS Windows and Mac. gImageReader 
(https://github.com/manisandro/gImageReader) is a nice GUI for Tesseract.
I would expect a scanner to give a better quality image, and thus better OCR, 
than a phone camera.
- Robert

From: Michael H 
Sent: October 29, 2023 20:40
To: Mike Flannigan
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org; Kenneth Groninga
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document

If you have a paper document you want to turn into text, and your scanner
doesn't give you text output as an option... you can download Google Lens
and point your phone at the document and copy each page that way.

But the copied text is in your phone, so you'll have to email it to a
desktop or use another editor like google docs or calibra office to paste
into, then open that with libreoffice.  But saving files as PDF isn't
good.  PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit
the file.  That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for
finished work. use ODT format for libreoffice... you'll save yourself a lot
of headache. but when you send it, you do need to output it to another
form, PDF is best, but you can use .doc or .docx .  but MS formats aren't
intended to be the working format for libreoffice, but a way to exchange
information to non-informed users.



On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM Mike Flannigan  wrote:

>
>
> On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote:
> > When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image?
> >
>
> By using OCR to turn it into text.  Often the
> OCR is built-in to the scanning software.
>
>
> Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't insert citation (Zotero)

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Have you considered asking about this at https://forums.zotero.org/discussions? 
They are generally very responsive.
- Robert


From: John Jason Jordan 
Sent: September 28, 2023 01:40
To: LibreOffice 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Can't insert citation (Zotero)

I have recently installed SparkyLinux, based on Debian Stable, and it
came with LibreOffice 7.4.7.2 installed without choice in the default.
The default, however, did not install Zotero, which I absolutely must
have. The distribution's repositories have Zotero 6.0.27, so I
installed it, and later I replaced it with Beta 7.0.0.42. When I launch
Writer I find the Zotero toolbar in View > Toolbars, and it looks
normal, but when I click on it to enter a citation nothing happens; no
error messages, nada. There is also a button for Add/Edit Bibliography,
but it also does nothing.
...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cool! LibreOffice is free, open source and very good office suite!

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

From: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
Sent: August 18, 2023 10:52

>> It's not part of LibreOffice but the open source equivalent to Outlook
>> is Evolution. There is even a plugin which allows it to work with an
>> exchange server.
>> ...

> Dear Tony,

> I am using Windows 10. So I think I can't use Evolution as it only
> works on Linux platforms.

You might want to try using Evolution under WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux). 
I haven't tried it yet but I think it's supposed to work.

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Draw Newbie

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Vince -

You could probably do it with LO Draw (or with Inkscape), but I use more 
specialized software for that purpose: Sweet Home 3D.

I have a brief note about it at 
http://audilab.bme.mcgill.ca/~funnell/graphics/graphics3dmodel.html#intDesign.

- Robert

Am 02.07.2023 um 19:39 schrieb Vince@Verizon:
> I am using Windows10x64bit Home on DELL desktop and LO 7.3.2.2 (x64) /
> LibreOffice Community.
>
> I have never made any use of the LO Draw module in the past, and
> wonder if it is suitable for creating a 2-dimension drawing that shows
> room layout with dimensions, to scale if possible.
>
> My immediate need is to create a document/drawing of the household
> room dimensions, e.g., square footage dimensions, as if I needed to
> paint the ceiling or the walls or needed to lay down carpeting or hard
> wood flooring, or calculate/show square footage of lawn areas, etc.
>
> Is LO Draw the appropriate module for me to learn? Or, is there some
> other program that is simpler to learn and to use?
>
> Up till now I have been making a hand sketch of the area of interest,
> scan the sketched layout, create a PDF and then type/enter dimensions
> as text annotations within the PDF. I think there might be a simpler
> method.
>
> I look forward to receiving suggestions/comments from the LO Draw
> community users. In the meantime, I will be reading the LO Draw Users
> Guide.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Image Anchor Selection

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Mike -

That's not a bad idea, but it might be messy to implement. An easier 
alternative would be to just change 'To page' to 'To page (deprecated)' or 'To 
page (avoid using)'.

- Robert

From: Mike Scott 
Sent: June 12, 2023 12:05
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Image Anchor Selection

A thought in passing - it would seem the OP's issue is that the UI has
changed, but he had no (ready) way of knowing in what way. In this case
a context menu item has been moved to the depths of a dialogue box.

Might it be a good idea, when this is done, to leave the original menu
entry in place, but have it just show an information box saying where
the item can be found and maybe give a pointer to [a web page with] some
hints on the matter? And leave that in place for several releases.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Image Anchor Selection

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Joe -

It may be worth reading the thread at 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/problem-with-anchor-picture-in-all-page/61556/6, 
perhaps especially the last message, by mikekaganski. As I understand it, the 
'Anchor to page' feature is still available but has been made somewhat harder 
to get at because its use has caused a lot of confusion.

- Robert

From: Joe Conner 
Sent: June 7, 2023 15:35
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Image Anchor Selection

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Libreoffice 7.5.3.2 (X86_64) on  Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS

In some prior editions of LibreOffice when using Writer I had the option
to anchor an image TO PAGE. Now my only choices that appear in the
context menu are TO PARAGRAPH, TO CHARACTER, or AS CHARACTER.

How can I get the TO PAGE choice to become available?

By dropping choices from a context menu seems to me to be a regression
of functionality.

Should I file a bug report?

Thank you. Joe Conner


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer- table of contents hyperlink problem

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

I just checked using LO 7.3 under Windows 10 with a document created 2 or 3 
months ago, and the TOC links work fine, taking me to the appropriate section. 
I checked with the same document using LO 6.1 under Debian Linux 10 and the 
links worked properly there also.
- Robert


From: Tim Lloyd 
Sent: May 20, 2023 17:17
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer- table of contents hyperlink problem

Hi,

I had a quick look at an old writer doc and this works as you explained
it. Fedora 38 with LO 7.5.3.2

I haven't tried it yet with a new doc

Regards

On 21/5/23 01:30, . wrote:
> When using Writer I added a table of contents (TOC) and all of the
> individual contents lines, when hovering over one, will say
> "Ctrl+click to open hyperlink"
>
> However, when doing  a "ctrl-click" and clicking on the link (the
> little hand appearing) the link doesn't take me to the page that's
> being referred to- it only stays on the link I just clicked.
>
> How can I fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Impress and Speaker's Notes With pptx Files

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

James -

I assume that you're asking whether Impress can save to .docx? I think the 
answer must be 'no'. In any case, .docx files are no more open-source than 
.pptx files are. Impress can save to either .ods format, which is really 
open-source, or to PDF.

- Robert


From: James 
Sent: May 19, 2023 18:53
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Impress and Speaker's Notes With pptx 
Files

Can PowerPoint save to something like docx?
I think that is a more opensource file format.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Jonathan -
When you double-click, the character is inserted immediately and you stay in 
the Special Characters dialogue, so you can then just double-click the next 
character(s). When you're done, you click on Cancel to exit from the dialogue. 
At least that's what's happening for me in LO 7.3.2.2.
- Robert


From: Jonathan Allen 
Sent: April 30, 2023 13:07
To: lo.harald.ber...@t-online.de 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

...
> Now I have to double click each character (and vowel-point/accent)
> in turn, then re-enter Insert Special Character.  Not a clever choice.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Jonathan -

You can get almost the same behaviour as you were used to by double-clicking on 
each character.

- Robert

From: Jonathan Allen 
Sent: April 30, 2023 12:32
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Insert Special Characters

Hi,

I have just taken an upgrde (with Linux Mint) from LO 5.something to
7.3.7.2.  Lots of good things, but I'm really upset about the way
Insert Special Characters has changed.  I used to be able to enter
a long string (one or more words) in Hebrew or Greek characters,
with them being compiled in a box below the character set, then hit
'insert' to put the whole thing into my document.  Now, it seems as
though I have to do it one character at a time, which is much more
time-consuming.  If there any way to get the old behaviour?

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cutting a block of multi page text

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Chris -

If I understand correctly, I think that all you need to do is click at one end 
of the text block, and then scroll to the other end and shift-click. That 
should select all the text in between.

I don't know how to do this while taking advantage of a bookmark at the second 
location.

- Robert


From: Chris J. 
Sent: April 23, 2023 14:08
To: lo user help 
Cc: Chris Johnson 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Cutting a block of multi page text

Hi.

This would seem to be a common thing to do for a writer. I'm missing it.

I'm in LO Write. I need to cut a multi-page block of text between two
bookmarks, save it and insert the text in a different chapter. The
insert is easy part.

How do I cut a block of text between two bookmarks without dragging the
cursor over it?

Thank you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer word counts.

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Chris -

Were your asterisks separated by spaces? My impression is that any character(s) 
delimited by white space will be counted as a word.

- Robert


From: Chris J. 
Sent: March 25, 2023 11:00
To: lo user help 
Cc: Chris Johnson 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer word counts.

I've known for a while now that LO Writer's words counts and MS Word
counts are close but not the same. I was entering an asterisked scene
break just now and noticed the word count increased by three. A little
experimenting revealed that Writer counted three asterisks as words.
This would account for some of the differing word counts between the
two. I've noticed it happening in other areas I haven't narrowed down yet.


What all exactly does LO Writer count as words? To a story writer words
counts mean something.


Thank you.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice parent company

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

'LibreOffice is community-driven and developed software, and is a project of 
the not-for-profit organization, The Document Foundation.' You can find more 
details at https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/who-are-we/ .

Apache OpenOffice is under the umbrella of the all-volunteer Apache Software 
Foundation (https://www.apache.org/), also not a company.

You can read about the complicated relationship between LibreOffice and Apache 
OpenOffice at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#History and/or 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice#History

- Robert

From: Andrew Pitonyak 
Sent: February 18, 2023 07:50
To: Amn Ojee Uw
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice parent company

Apache is not required to LibreOffice.

I don't think I would classify LibreOffice as a company.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] double-spacing within an outline

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

When editing a paragraph style, in the 'Organizer' tab you can specify 'Next 
style'. Is that set to be your custom 'block outline' style? I don't really 
understand why two Enters would kick you out if one doesn't.

A style purist would say that you should define a separate style with greater 
spacing, rather than using blank paragraphs.

- Robert

From: Eric Beversluis 
Sent: December 16, 2022 11:20
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] double-spacing within an outline

I have a custom outline style that I call 'block outline' because it
doesn't use bullets or alphanumerics to head the different levels.

It's set to single space. But there are times I want to double
space--e.g., to make a greater break between "paragraphs" at a given
outline level. But when I hit enter/return twice I get kicked out of my
custom outline style.

Is this a "feature" of LO Writer outlining or is there some setting that
will keep me in the current outline style when I add an extra line
spacing? (The only thing that works now is to single space, add some new
text, and then go to the start of that "paragraph" and hit enter/return
again.)

Using Ubuntu 20.04 and LO 7.3.6.2 on Dell XPS.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] hyphenation

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

My assumption is that Chris is looking for help on when to hyphenate compound 
adjectives (like 'the red-brown dog' but 'the big brown dog'), similar to how 
LO has rules about when to hyphenate words at the ends of lines. Hyphenation of 
compound adjectives involves a lot of judgment and personal taste. As far as I 
know, there's nothing about it in LO.
- Robert

From: Dave Liesse 
Sent: December 15, 2022 20:04
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] hyphenation

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Chris,

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is.  I hyphenate things all the time with 
no problems.

If Regina's suggestion is what you need, you can also insert the non-breaking 
hyphen with Ctrl-Shift-Hyphen (much faster for me, anyway, then having to move 
my hand to the mouse).

Dave


On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Chris J. wrote:
> Hi.
>
>
> I likely know the answer to this. I'm looking for verification or a
> better answer.
>
>
> The only hyphenation ability in LO Write I'm seeing is for word
> splitting and end of a line.
>
>
> What I'd really like is help with compound adjectives. Does anything
> like that exist in LO Writer?
>
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

Or you can do Insert > Formatting Mark > Non-breaking hyphen. 
Does that work for you?
- Robert

From: V Stuart Foote 
Sent: March 24, 2021 14:56
To: LibreOffice Users
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

You've missed the one Unicode point that does exactly what you require, but its 
use will depend on the font in use.

U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN

You can enter via LibreOffice Special Character dialog, or LibreOffice's 
Unicode toggle. That is you can type U+2011 and then +X to toggle the 
glyph.

If the font in use does not "cover" the codepoint, you'll get a fallback 
replacement or possibly the no glyph value for the font.

When added to canvas the non-breaking hyphen character will receive NPC 
highlighting.



From: John Kaufmann 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 1:31 PM
To: LibreOffice Users 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

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I had always thought that the difference between a "dash" and a "hyphen" is 
that the dash is a character (that is, will not break a character string), 
while the hyphen hyphenates (that is, breaks at the end of a line if the 
character string following the hyphen is too long to fit on the line).  So, 
needing a non-breaking substitute for that horizontal bar on my keyboard, I 
invoked:
Insert > Special Character
to get (what I would call) a dash.

LibreOffice has such mid-height horizontal-bar characters in three character 
groups:
"General punctuation", characters:
U+2010 (HYPHEN)
U+2012 (FIGURE DASH)
U_2013 (EN DASH)
U+2014 (EM DASH)
U+2015 (HORIZONTAL BAR)
"Mathematical Operators", character:
U+2212 (MINUS SIGN)
"Box Drawing", character:
U+2500 (BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL)

The five characters of the "General Punctuation" group mostly seem to just 
represent different widths of hyphen (despite three being called FIGURE DASH, 
EN DASH, EM DASH), in that in a character string each will end a line of 
characters if the string following is too long to fit. Only the HORIZONTAL BAR 
acts as a common character, such that the string of which it is a member will 
not break there; but it is very long to be used as a non-breaking hyphen.

The MINUS SIGN in the "Mathematical Operators" group has a special operation: 
It will break at the end of a line, but will itself move to the next line, to 
stay with the character following MINUS SIGN.

The BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL character acts like the HORIZONTAL BAR -- 
that is, as a true, non-breaking character -- but is also too long to be used 
generally as a non-breaking hyphen.

Is there a clean way to make a non-breaking dash/hyphen?

-John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] reference manager

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, Cor Nouws wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A note:
>
> Recently I met a scientist using LibreOffice. Enthusiastic about the
> program. She mentioned that for here work Mendely is perfect.
> So since the question arises now and then, just mentioning here.
> https://www.mendeley.com/reference-management/reference-manager/
>
> greetings,
> Cor
>

Zotero (https://www.zotero.org/) also works very well with LibreOffice 
and it is free/libre and open-source, which Mendeley is not.

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Advice needed on reporting a bug

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2019, Tom Williams wrote:

> Hi!  I have a Word document that I downloaded from an online Sharepoint
> site that appears mis-formatted in LibreOffice Writer 6.2.7.1 on Ubuntu
> 19.04 Linux.   It appears as if the page breaks are off.   In any event,
> the document is a legal document so I'm not willing to post the document
> "as is" in a bug report, if I end up filing one.
>
> What would be a good alternative to preserve the information that shows
> the formatting issues but not include the other legal information, in
> the document?
>
> Thanks in advance!

One possibility is to replace all characters by something else. For 
example, in Find & Replace, turn on 'Regular expressions' (under 
'Other options') and replace '[a-z]' by 'x'.

When you say 'the page breaks are off', do you mean that the page 
breaks occur in different places? Are they off by only a little? Maybe 
it's because the document uses a font that your system doesn't have so 
the font is being replaced by a font with slightly different font 
metrics?

I believe that sometimes the formatting won't be quite the same even 
between different versions of Word, much less between Word and another 
word processor.

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to prevent Impress from changing font size?

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Sun, 26 May 2019, Malcolm Jaros wrote:

> Using Impress Version: 6.0.7.3 in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, when I add to text in a 
> slide the font size automatically reduces to keep the text within the text 
> box. 
> Can I prevent this auto resizing of the font? 
> If so, how do I do this?

Right-click on the frame and select 'Position and Size' from the 
pop-up menu. Then check the 'Fit height to text' box.
(This is based on an old posting that I found by searching:
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg07211.html)

I'm confused by how this is related to enabling the Text toolbar (View 
> Toolbars > Text) and using the option 'Fit text in textbox size'.

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Inserting a Trademark Symbol in Label

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019, Budge wrote:

> ...
> My problem is that once I select Special Characters the Font is shown and 
> then a huge list of available Subsets and using for example Basic Latin, I 
> get a whole lot of characters, all too big and all overlapping so even if the 
> TM symbol is there I cannot see it.
> ...

I have never seen the behaviour you describe, with oversize characters 
in the Special Character selection window. I just tried it with the 
DejaVu fonts in my LO version 6.2.0.3 under Windows 10, to be sure.

What version of LibreOffice are you using, and under what version of 
which operating system? Do you have extensions or accessibility 
options running that might affect the behaviour?

- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Adding keyboard shortcut

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, V Stuart Foote wrote:

> Rich Shepard wrote
>>> The *delete* you want is assigned in LibreOffice via the "Backspace"
>>> function, aka a *rubout*.
>>
>>Not quite. The backspace key deletes the character to the left of the
>> cursor's position while the Del key deletes the character to the right of
>> the cursor's position. I want to make ctrl-d function like the Del key.
>
> Yes sorry, that is correct. They are different deletions. The "Delete"
> performs what is also called a "forward delete".
> Have looked at the project source code.  The forward delete action is among
> a class of actions directly implemented in the edit shell and assigned to
> the keyboard (symkey) for the Delete key.
>
> It is not  available to assign to additional Keyboard shortcut or menu
> entry.
>
> Doing so would require creation of an UNO commond to perform the deletion,
> that would be available for use in UI customization.

That seems like something that should be corrected. What other actions 
are directly implemented like that?

In the meantime, would it work to define a macro that does 
forward-character and then backward-delete, and bind it to Ctrl-D?

- Robert


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO insertion point artefact

[W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.]

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, cortical wrote:

>
> In Writer, wherever the cursor is clicked , cases carriage returns, and 
> spaces to be inserted down to that point.

Look in Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > Formatting Aids.
Is the 'Direct cursor' feature enabled?

- Robert


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