Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem importing xls files

2014-10-14 Thread m. nease

My results are identical to Don Pobanz'--also LO 4.3.2.2 and Xubuntu 14.04.

On 10/14/2014 01:04 PM, Don Pobanz wrote:

On 10/14/2014 02:45 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:

El 14/10/14 a las 16:41, Tom Davies escibió:

Hi :)
Weird!  Both open fine in LibreOffice 3.5.7 on Ubuntu 12.04 (at least i
think i'm on 12.04, might be 14.04 but that's doubtful)

Errr, anyone able to open on Windows?
Regards from
Tom :)





I'm using 4.2.6.3 on Ubuntu 14.04.


For some reason bad.xls opens with Writer, not Calc, even when I say 
'open with Calc.'

Good.xls opens just fine.

Libreoffice 4.3.2.2
Ubuntu 14.04



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [MariaDB Announce] MariaDB 5.5.40 now available

2014-10-10 Thread m. nease

Thanks Tom,

I've just installed this from the Ubuntu Trusty repositories. Looking 
forward to attempting to figure it out(!).


Cheers,

mike

On 10/10/2014 04:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
For anyone using or interested in using Base ...

MariaDb is a drop in replacement for MySql.  It forked off from MySql in
much the same way as LibreOffice did from OpenOffice.  It's got most of the
original MySql community and devs.

On the other hand many web-hosting companies are still using Oracle's
MySql.  Plus the Postgresql people joined in with developing a native
connector for Base so Postgresql might be an easier choice for people
starting from scratch.

Back to the first hand, MariaDb is replacing MySql as the native database
program in many linux distros.  I know it's in Slackware but haven't
confirmed for the others yet.  So web-hosting companies might already be
using MariaDb and just calling it MySql in their marketing.

Regards from
Tom :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open .accdb in--or convert to--.odb in LibreOffice Base?

2014-10-08 Thread m. nease

Thanks Tom,

I think your post states the case very well.  Without a Windows machine 
I suspect this nut is practically impossible to crack.  The potential 
client may have Access and, if so, be willing to export his tables (as 
text files or whatever)--if so, I should be able to rebuild his bases in 
Base.


I don't like MS and won't use their products again, but feel I must say 
I made a good living using Access for years and really appreciated the 
program--just not the nightmare world of strings attached.  I'm really 
glad to have Base to replace it.


Thanks for your time and attention.

mike

On 10/08/2014 03:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Alex and Werner are giving good answers but you'll need to find
some way of temporarily borrowing a Windows machine in order to help.

Access is part of the whole vendor lock-in thing that MS seems to do so
well.  They don't seem to want to make it easy for people to use other
products to read their stuff as that seems to ensure that people 'have to'
keep buying into their products.

Once people DO start using non-MS alternatives they tend to find it easy to
move between a variety of different programs and tools quite easily.  They
also tend to never go back to MS tools because MS tools just aren't as safe
and reliable and don't perform so well either.

So, MS seems to have to create as many blockers as possible to avoid people
just quickly trying out alternatives.  They can't seem to compete on
quality or in fair markets

However people have been able to migrate their databases out of Access and
into Base.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 8 October 2014 10:48, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:


Le 07/10/2014 20:46, m. nease a écrit :


I'd like to do some work on Access databases (.accdb files) but haven't
been able to access(!) them using Base (and have no MS OS or MS
Office--happily).  Is this possible?

To assist in migration, also check out this Windows-only, GPL tool :

http://mdbdoc.sourceforge.net/



Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open .accdb in--or convert to--.odb in LibreOffice Base?

2014-10-08 Thread m. nease

Hi Dan,

I installed the Access2Base extension and tried it but to no avail. 
Possibly your Access database was an .mdb rather than an .accdb?


Thanks for your time and attention.

mike

On 10/08/2014 07:09 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:
There is an extension that should help you. Download it from the 
LibreOffice Extensions website:

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/access2base

About a year ago or so, I downloaded an earlier version and was able 
to access a Access database with it.


Dan

On 10/08/2014 06:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Alex and Werner are giving good answers but you'll need to find
some way of temporarily borrowing a Windows machine in order to help.

Access is part of the whole vendor lock-in thing that MS seems to do so
well.  They don't seem to want to make it easy for people to use other
products to read their stuff as that seems to ensure that people 
'have to'

keep buying into their products.

Once people DO start using non-MS alternatives they tend to find it 
easy to
move between a variety of different programs and tools quite easily.  
They
also tend to never go back to MS tools because MS tools just aren't 
as safe

and reliable and don't perform so well either.

So, MS seems to have to create as many blockers as possible to avoid 
people

just quickly trying out alternatives.  They can't seem to compete on
quality or in fair markets

However people have been able to migrate their databases out of 
Access and

into Base.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 8 October 2014 10:48, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:


Le 07/10/2014 20:46, m. nease a écrit :

I'd like to do some work on Access databases (.accdb files) but 
haven't

been able to access(!) them using Base (and have no MS OS or MS
Office--happily).  Is this possible?

To assist in migration, also check out this Windows-only, GPL tool :

http://mdbdoc.sourceforge.net/



Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open .accdb in--or convert to--.odb in LibreOffice Base?

2014-10-08 Thread m. nease

Thanks, Jaroslaw,

Your ideal solution is a bit over my head at this time, but I do 
appreciate it and will hang onto it for future reference.


Thanks again for your time and attention.

mike

On 10/08/2014 07:21 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 October 2014 12:08, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi :)
I think Alex and Werner are giving good answers but you'll need to find
some way of temporarily borrowing a Windows machine in order to help.

Access is part of the whole vendor lock-in thing that MS seems to do so
well.  They don't seem to want to make it easy for people to use other
products to read their stuff as that seems to ensure that people 'have to'
keep buying into their products.

Once people DO start using non-MS alternatives they tend to find it easy to
move between a variety of different programs and tools quite easily.  They
also tend to never go back to MS tools because MS tools just aren't as safe
and reliable and don't perform so well either.

So, MS seems to have to create as many blockers as possible to avoid people
just quickly trying out alternatives.  They can't seem to compete on
quality or in fair markets

+1

BTW, This is also why Kexi does not use Windows-only ADO, which (as
many believe) would be another variant of the lock-in.
mdbtools is used exclusively, under the mask.

Ideal solution would be to start and maintain a port of Jackcess to
C/C++ to avoid Java, even greater if this was independent project, not
a part of LO or Kexi.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open .accdb in--or convert to--.odb in LibreOffice Base?

2014-10-08 Thread m. nease

Thanks Tom (and everyone),

I'll keep that in mind for future replies.

Meanwhile, I think I've had enough advice for now and should perhaps 
mark the thread 'solved' (can someone advise me how to do that)?


To sum up, I'm convinced at this point that working a MS database from 
Base just isn't practical and that the data need to be exported from the 
Access db on a Windows machine with Access installed.  I had a brilliant 
suggestion off-line:  try the library?  Of course. My local library does 
have MS Office and I should be able to do anything I want with the thing 
there, including exporting the data for entry at home into a Base db.  
Duh! (Thanks, Brian!)


Thanks again to everyone for your time and attention.

mike

On 10/08/2014 12:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
You can include comments to various different people in a single email.

I like the DistroWatch method of saying something to the whole mailing-list
in general and then various paragraphs such as

@ Tom, Alex, Werner, Peter, Janoslaw, Dan, etc.  Thanks! :)

@ Dan.  ...

@ Peter.  Not had chance to try that yet but thanks.  So far just dodging
Windows entirely!

@ whoever 


I think Peter is onto a winner because he's actually done it the most
recently out of all of us.  I haven't managed it at all yet (except by
convincing my boss that we really don't need the crumbling old database at
all nowadays anyway and moved to just a VERY simple csv file instead of
having any database)

I think Jaroslaw wasn't a specific suggestion for this particular case but
more an idea for the whole of LibreOffice to consider for the future.
Really would be better to mention it on the Discuss mailing list except
that it's probably difficult to talk about Base there.  Bringing it up here
means he does actually reach people interested in and knowledgeable about
Base.  We often go off-track on this list and that often helps the person
deal with other stuff or work-out a better work-around.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 8 October 2014 19:29, m. nease mlne...@hctc.com wrote:


  Thanks, Jaroslaw,

Your ideal solution is a bit over my head at this time, but I do
appreciate it and will hang onto it for future reference.

Thanks again for your time and attention.

mike

On 10/08/2014 07:21 AM, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:

On 8 October 2014 12:08, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com tomc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Hi :)
I think Alex and Werner are giving good answers but you'll need to find
some way of temporarily borrowing a Windows machine in order to help.

Access is part of the whole vendor lock-in thing that MS seems to do so
well.  They don't seem to want to make it easy for people to use other
products to read their stuff as that seems to ensure that people 'have to'
keep buying into their products.

Once people DO start using non-MS alternatives they tend to find it easy to
move between a variety of different programs and tools quite easily.  They
also tend to never go back to MS tools because MS tools just aren't as safe
and reliable and don't perform so well either.

So, MS seems to have to create as many blockers as possible to avoid people
just quickly trying out alternatives.  They can't seem to compete on
quality or in fair markets

  +1

BTW, This is also why Kexi does not use Windows-only ADO, which (as
many believe) would be another variant of the lock-in.
mdbtools is used exclusively, under the mask.

Ideal solution would be to start and maintain a port of Jackcess to
C/C++ to avoid Java, even greater if this was independent project, not
a part of LO or Kexi.



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