[libreoffice-users] security warning AOO
Today, following mail was distributed from annou...@openoffice.apache.org. Can LibO users face the same threat? QUOTE CVE-2015-1774 OpenOffice HWP Filter Remote Code Execution and Denial of Service Vulnerability A vulnerability in OpenOffice's HWP filter allows attackers to cause a denial of service (memory corruption and application crash) or possibly execution of arbitrary code by preparing specially crafted documents in the HWP document format. Severity: Important Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Versions Affected: All Apache OpenOffice versions 4.1.1 and older are affected. Mitigation: Apache OpenOffice users are advised to remove the problematic library in the program folder of their OpenOffice installation. On Windows it is named hwp.dll, on Mac it is named libhwp.dylib and on Linux it is named libhwp.so. Alternatively the library can be renamed to anything else e.g. hwp_renamed.dll. This mitigation will drop AOO's support for documents created in Hangul Word Processor versions from 1997 or older. Users of such documents are advised to convert their documents to other document formats such as OpenDocument before doing so. Apache OpenOffice aims to fix the vulnerability in version 4.1.2. Credits: Thanks to an anonymous contributor working with VeriSign iDefense Labs. UNQUOTE -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office version 4.3.5.2 - crashing
I don' t recall having read in AskLibO a question about the way LibO crashes at this particular W7 machine. Tom's proposal is definitely worth to give it a try. On 2015-01-01 10:45, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It might be worth renaming your User Profile; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Regards from Tom :) On 31 December 2014 at 18:40, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Hi Rogier, This may sound silly, but as an interim solution, how about installing an older version of LO? It must be better than going back to MSO! Perhaps you could give a few more details of your setup, maybe that will help someone dig deeper into the problem. For example, you say the latest version of LO, but which branch and latest version as of when? Exactly which version have you installed, and which version did you have before? Did you do a clean install, or install over the previous version? Do you have java installed, and which version? Which version of windows 7 are you on, and is it 32 or 64 bits? Do you get any error messages when LO crashes? Any other details that you might have that could assist us? Paul On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:19:33 -0500 Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com wrote: Since I've installed the latest version it crashed upon opening. The LO startup window will flash on the screen, and then the program crashes. In short, I had to switch back to MSOffice in the middle of a project, and after 15 years with OO and LO, it ain't easy going back ;-) Any suggestions, please? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and I'm on a Windows 7 machine. *Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen http://viz.me/vliscony/t/7* *About Me http://about.me/vliscony* -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Acess2Base
Again, thanks Jim for your comment and the 2 interesting links. I had to recognize that we need to get professional support of a BASE and CALC expert and hope that this expert knows if a BASE DB with macros for data export into CALC will run on W7 and Linux. Regards, Reinhold On 2014-08-11 11:18, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 08/10/2014 08:02 PM, rost52 wrote: Thanks Jim for introducing this topic. A small company I know is using an ACCESS DB with macros exporting certain information into EXCEL spreadsheets. This ACCESS DB is currently preventing the company to change over from MSO to LibO and Linux. A 2 step approach is discussed: First to migrate from MSO to LibO using W7 and second moving from Windows to Linux. (Distributions not yet decided but most likely Linux Mint of Linux Mint Debian or Antergos.) Therefore, 1 more question from my side: Assuming that using Access2Base helps us to get the DB and the macros into Base and create the Calc spreadsheets, can this BASE DB with the LibO macros be used as they are when changing from W7 to Linux? I don't know. I just discovered it a few hours ago. My impression is that it lets people that know how to write macros for Access use a syntax they are similar with to write macros in Base. I could be wrong. Here is a link to the website: http://www.access2base.com/access2base.html Here is a link to an OpenOffice discussion forum about it: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47t=61447 HTH Regards, Jim On 2014-08-11 06:47, Jim Byrnes wrote: I am still using the 3.xx version of LO that came with Ubuntu 12.04 and haven't been on the main LibreOffice site for some time. I've been reading the naming discussion (Fresh/Still etc) and decided to look at the site. While there I stumbled across Acces2Base. I've always thought writing macros in LO was way harder than it should be because of UNO, so this is an interesting development. A couple of questions: (1) Has anyone here used it and does it make writing macros for Base easier? (2) I write most of my macros for Calc so is there a Excel2Calc planned? Regards, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Acess2Base
Thanks Jim for introducing this topic. A small company I know is using an ACCESS DB with macros exporting certain information into EXCEL spreadsheets. This ACCESS DB is currently preventing the company to change over from MSO to LibO and Linux. A 2 step approach is discussed: First to migrate from MSO to LibO using W7 and second moving from Windows to Linux. (Distributions not yet decided but most likely Linux Mint of Linux Mint Debian or Antergos.) Therefore, 1 more question from my side: Assuming that using Access2Base helps us to get the DB and the macros into Base and create the Calc spreadsheets, can this BASE DB with the LibO macros be used as they are when changing from W7 to Linux? On 2014-08-11 06:47, Jim Byrnes wrote: I am still using the 3.xx version of LO that came with Ubuntu 12.04 and haven't been on the main LibreOffice site for some time. I've been reading the naming discussion (Fresh/Still etc) and decided to look at the site. While there I stumbled across Acces2Base. I've always thought writing macros in LO was way harder than it should be because of UNO, so this is an interesting development. A couple of questions: (1) Has anyone here used it and does it make writing macros for Base easier? (2) I write most of my macros for Calc so is there a Excel2Calc planned? Regards, Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?
I remember having read an information that after v3.6 the number of filters for older version got reduced. I therefore keep a copy of 3.6.7 normal and 3.6.5 portable. On 2014-06-28 22:23, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best ability to import really old word processor formats. I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for those old file formats, but I may need one of them. I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the files to be able to work with the current tech. Right now, I have to find a working floppy drive to access the disc. Right now, the only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it. My main system does not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are the same. So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats. The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became the standard format before FOSS office packages came out. Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try? As I have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then I will know which legacy format I need to work with. It would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to the modern formats - MSO's and ODF. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any reason why resizing an image does not keep aspect ration by default?
This is great news! Thanks JBF! On 2014-04-14 16:27, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Hi, Le 12/04/2014 20:48, Simon a écrit : Hello, I can hardly understand the choice made in the default behavior when resizing an image. Enhancement request already reported : https://bugs.libreoffice.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71669 Default will be changed in version 4.3 : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3/fr#Writer Best regards. JBF -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer printing problem
driver? printer? This is what I am using: http://www.pdf995.com Use this SW already since many years. Thanks for the doPDF hint. On 2014-02-06 23:14, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: PDF955?PDF printer/driver? I use doPDF for windows [default printer] and CUPS-PDF for Ubuntu [default printer] On 02/06/2014 07:03 AM, rost52 wrote: Hi Joe, Owens remark on his printer reminded me that I did not provide printer info. I used pdf955. ROSt On 2014-02-06 18:54, Joe Alders wrote: rost52 bugquestcontri at online.de writes: Hi Joe, I tested Version: 4.1.4.2 Build ID: 0a0440ccc0227ad9829de5f46be37cfb6edcf72 on XP/SP3 with a selected part of a text and printed it. I also printed a page in the middle of a several page long document. In both cases Writer did not change cursor position, same part of the document remains on screen before and after printing May I ask you to publish the link of your question to the AskLibO forum here? ROSt52 Hello rost52, Here the link: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/28581/document-in-writer-always-jumps-to-first-page-after-printing-command There was one recently response. You wrote that your O.S. is XP/SP3 and that brought me to the idea that I can install LO on my old XP/SP3 machine and see if the problem is also there. Keep you informed. Joe. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer printing problem
Hi Joe, OS and LibO version is the same. Are there somewhere settings which can have an influence? HW differences? If you have an idea where to look, please advice I will do so and report. ROSt On 2014-02-08 21:25, Joe Alders wrote: Joe Alders capricorn.alders at hetnet.nl writes: There was one recently response. You wrote that your O.S. is XP/SP3 and that brought me to the idea that I can install LO on my old XP/SP3 machine and see if the problem is also there. Keep you informed. Joe. Hello rost52, Just installed and tested the latest LO 4.1.4.2 on my old XP SP3 computer: The printing behaves exactly as on my Win 7 one. Joe. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer printing problem
Hi Joe, Owens remark on his printer reminded me that I did not provide printer info. I used pdf955. ROSt On 2014-02-06 18:54, Joe Alders wrote: rost52 bugquestcontri at online.de writes: Hi Joe, I tested Version: 4.1.4.2 Build ID: 0a0440ccc0227ad9829de5f46be37cfb6edcf72 on XP/SP3 with a selected part of a text and printed it. I also printed a page in the middle of a several page long document. In both cases Writer did not change cursor position, same part of the document remains on screen before and after printing May I ask you to publish the link of your question to the AskLibO forum here? ROSt52 Hello rost52, Here the link: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/28581/document-in-writer-always-jumps-to-first-page-after-printing-command There was one recently response. You wrote that your O.S. is XP/SP3 and that brought me to the idea that I can install LO on my old XP/SP3 machine and see if the problem is also there. Keep you informed. Joe. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer printing problem
Hi Joe, I tested Version: 4.1.4.2 Build ID: 0a0440ccc0227ad9829de5f46be37cfb6edcf72 on XP/SP3 with a selected part of a text and printed it. I also printed a page in the middle of a several page long document. In both cases Writer did not change cursor position, same part of the document remains on screen before and after printing May I ask you to publish the link of your question to the AskLibO forum here? ROSt52 On 2014-02-04 04:20, Joe Alders wrote: Hello, After a very disappointing experience using the LibreOffice Forum at the 'ask' part of the LibreOffice site, I will try this forum for help. This is my problem using Writer: When printing a part of a Writer document and being somewhere in this document, it always jumps to the first page after giving the 'print' command. This only happens when I want to print a particular page or pages. It does not happen when I will print the complete document. I find this very annoying and hope that someone on this forum can help me out here. I am using Windows 7 64 bits Home Premium. Thanks in advance, Joe. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Auto save didn't work?
Thanks Alex. It was a helpful. On 2014-01-15 23:38, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 15/01/2014 04:30, rost52 a écrit : Hi, Is below statement only valid for a Mac or also for a PC with XP? This is my experience on Mac over the different versions of LO from 3.3.0 to present, and having moved through Snow Leopard to Lion to Mountain Lion and now Mavericks. I have seen issues in the past on Linux where autosave was activated and didn't function as intended, i.e. it was impossible to recover anything, but that was a while ago, and probably with Openoffice.org at the time. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] CeBit Exhibiton
I just saw on the LibO homepage https://www.libreoffice.org/default/ the great news that LibO gets shown at the CeBit in Hannover. This will expose LibO also to large, medium, and small size enterprises as well as to a very large audience which regards the CeBit as a leading exhibition. ROSt52 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Auto save didn't work?
Hi Alex, Is below statement only valid for a Mac or also for a PC with XP? In the past (LibO version before 4.1.4.2 eg.4.0.5 or 6 and earlier) I never observed problems with autosave and recovery when LibO crashed. Thanks in advance for your comment. ROSt52 On 2014-01-14 23:39, Alex Thurgood wrote: However, LO, at least in the 4.0.x versions (don't know if later versions do better) doesn't know how to deal with this situation with regard to temporary files that it creates (your autosave files are store in a temporary file store), so they just get wiped from memory when the app is shut down. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
Thanks for the hint with 4.0.6. This version is indeed very stable and it has a least one feature which I missed in previous version. Thus I currently very happy with 4.0.6. I used 4.0.5 before, changed to 4.1.3.2 and then back to 4.0.6. Maybe Tom is write and something happend during the download/installation of 4.1.3.2 and thus this version showed a few bugs of which one I could not accept. Currently I am thinking about installing 4.1.4 but maybe I don't have time for installation and then 4.1.5 will be released. On 2013-12-17 05:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: If you want to try 4.0.6 first, since you jumped from 3.6.x, it might be a good idea. It is at the end on that line and I use it all of the time. Sure, you can try 4.1.4 when it comes out, but 4.0.6 is very stable and you can use it as a stepping stone to the 4.1.x line. The messages about 4.1.3 being too buggy for you [or others] suggests going to 4.0.6 and not going back down to the 3.6.x line. Later, when all of the possible problems with 4.1.4 comes in, you can decide if it is ready for you to use. Still, personally, I would try 4.0.6, for now. Then look into 4.1.4 or 4.1.5 later. On 12/16/2013 06:47 AM, Dr. R. O. Stapf - the service institute japan wrote: Hi Tom,Thanks for the hint, I will do with the 4.1.4 version which is scheduled to be released this week.RPresidentthe service institute japan... the service enhancement companywww.tsij.org On 2013-12-14 00:46, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ahh, i think just go for a standard normal reinstall of 4.1.3. maybe re-download the installer to make sure that isn't the problem Regards from Tom :) On 13 December 2013 02:42, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:The fact that I had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one. I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the command line. In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could do easy testing for bug reports. Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable parallel installations? On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote:Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar Shivpal Singh:What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7?Kunwar, if it is of interest for you: you can install both versions in parallel - seehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallelRegards, Nino-- To unsubscribe e-mail to:users+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc 4.1.3.2 410 crashes on Fedora 19
Thanks Tom for clarification. R On 2013-12-14 00:43, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry, i thought you were using a GnuLinux. Windows doesn't have that sort of feature. Perhaps just try reinstalling a newer version of LibreOffice instead? Let us know how that goes, especially if any error messages pop-up Apols and regards from Tom :) On 13 December 2013 02:47, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: Hi Tom, thanks for the hint but could you please help me on how I have to do what your proposed. My IT knowledge seems to be insufficient. First maybe let me know what a package manager is and how to start it in XP. R On 2013-12-11 19:03, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Maybe a dependancy problem somewhere? Can you get one of your package managers to fix broken packages or check for errors? Regards from Tom :) On 10 December 2013 15:43, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: Hi , I observed crashes of v4.1.3.2 on XP/SP3 when opening certain calc files. I could not trace the cause of the problem. Changing of the user profile did not help. Additionally I observed crashes when I changed page formats in the format window (F11). Changing to default or customized page formats caused Writer to crash. I had to give up 4.1.3.2 and went back 4.0.6 just. In 4.0.6 I don't observe any of these above problems. But I miss a few new features of 4.1.3.2... On 2013-12-06 10:57, Peter Langfelder wrote: Hi all, curious if anyone else noticed this - after last update a few days ago that also updated libreoffice, calc crashes upon startup or when opening documents. That is, starting libreoffice without any arguments works, but starting a new spreadsheet or opening a spreadsheet file (.ods) or running calc from command line crashes. The crash does not produce any useful debugging information, I only get a message saying [1]+ Exit 135libreoffice and ABRT reports signal 7 (SIGBUS). I wonder whether this is unique to my machine or whether others can also observe it. I am running a fully updated Fedora 19, $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 3.11.9-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 21:22:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and libreoffice --version reports LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 410(Build:2) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
The fact that I had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one. I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the command line. In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could do easy testing for bug reports. Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable parallel installations? On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote: Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar Shivpal Singh: What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from Source Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2 allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7? Kunwar, if it is of interest for you: you can install both versions in parallel - see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc 4.1.3.2 410 crashes on Fedora 19
Hi Tom, thanks for the hint but could you please help me on how I have to do what your proposed. My IT knowledge seems to be insufficient. First maybe let me know what a package manager is and how to start it in XP. R On 2013-12-11 19:03, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Maybe a dependancy problem somewhere? Can you get one of your package managers to fix broken packages or check for errors? Regards from Tom :) On 10 December 2013 15:43, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: Hi , I observed crashes of v4.1.3.2 on XP/SP3 when opening certain calc files. I could not trace the cause of the problem. Changing of the user profile did not help. Additionally I observed crashes when I changed page formats in the format window (F11). Changing to default or customized page formats caused Writer to crash. I had to give up 4.1.3.2 and went back 4.0.6 just. In 4.0.6 I don't observe any of these above problems. But I miss a few new features of 4.1.3.2... On 2013-12-06 10:57, Peter Langfelder wrote: Hi all, curious if anyone else noticed this - after last update a few days ago that also updated libreoffice, calc crashes upon startup or when opening documents. That is, starting libreoffice without any arguments works, but starting a new spreadsheet or opening a spreadsheet file (.ods) or running calc from command line crashes. The crash does not produce any useful debugging information, I only get a message saying [1]+ Exit 135libreoffice and ABRT reports signal 7 (SIGBUS). I wonder whether this is unique to my machine or whether others can also observe it. I am running a fully updated Fedora 19, $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 3.11.9-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 21:22:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and libreoffice --version reports LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 410(Build:2) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc 4.1.3.2 410 crashes on Fedora 19
Hi , I observed crashes of v4.1.3.2 on XP/SP3 when opening certain calc files. I could not trace the cause of the problem. Changing of the user profile did not help. Additionally I observed crashes when I changed page formats in the format window (F11). Changing to default or customized page formats caused Writer to crash. I had to give up 4.1.3.2 and went back 4.0.6 just. In 4.0.6 I don't observe any of these above problems. But I miss a few new features of 4.1.3.2... On 2013-12-06 10:57, Peter Langfelder wrote: Hi all, curious if anyone else noticed this - after last update a few days ago that also updated libreoffice, calc crashes upon startup or when opening documents. That is, starting libreoffice without any arguments works, but starting a new spreadsheet or opening a spreadsheet file (.ods) or running calc from command line crashes. The crash does not produce any useful debugging information, I only get a message saying [1]+ Exit 135libreoffice and ABRT reports signal 7 (SIGBUS). I wonder whether this is unique to my machine or whether others can also observe it. I am running a fully updated Fedora 19, $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 3.11.9-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20 21:22:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and libreoffice --version reports LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 410(Build:2) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
Units and their system is a question of what you are used to and for what you developed a feel. The metric system has it is advantage in the factors of 10 or 1/10. I consider this as the reason why most countries adopted the metric system. If a country is serious about a change, than all measures must be provided for a while in both units and after while the old units must disappear. Is there a chance that all countries go metric? It depends on the pride to use a different one with all disadvantages link to it. On 28.08.2013 03:34, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think our cars show both too. I think road signs only show miles. Errr, i am a cyclist so any distance away just seems forever away until i reach it. 60 miles might take just a few hours one day but then an 8mile might be unfeasible another. Bit of an exaggeration of course. Regards from Tom :) From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2013, 19:08 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats? Ruth Ann wrote: Metric just never caught on here in the USA. And I noticed that as the signs were replaced, the news ones just gave the distance in miles again. You can thank Reagan for that one. Peanut Carter had implemented a plan to convert, but Reagan killed it. This was the same period as when Canada switched. Oh, and our cars still do show the speed in both miles per hour and kilometers per hour - but I think that is probably just in case we happen to visit Canada (who has gone metric, I think) :-) Both Canada and Mexico along with every other country an American can drive to, uses Km. The U.S. is stuck with 2 third world countries as the last holdouts. How does it feel to have the U.S. on par with Liberia and Myanmar (Burma). Regardless, thanks to world trade, more and more U.S. companies are having to work with the metric system, if they want to sell elsewhere. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?
I did not believe that the US, Liberia and Myanmar are the only countries. But they are indeed the only ones left.http://gizmodo.com/5786004/these-are-the-three-countries-who-dont-use-the-metric-systemThus, which country will change next? Myanmar, as they open the country for investments?The last two can use a coin to find out which country changes next or, which one remains the last non-metric country I hope to get old enough to see which country is the last one being non-metric... National pride!On 28.08.2013 03:08, James Knott wrote: Ruth Ann wrote:Metric just never caught on here in the USA. And I noticed that as the signs were replaced, the news ones just gave the distance in miles again.You can thank Reagan for that one. Peanut Carter had implemented a plan to convert, but Reagan killed it. This was the same period as when Canada switched.Oh, and our cars still do show the speed in both miles per hour and kilometers per hour - but I think that is probably just in case we happen to visit Canada (who has gone metric, I think) :-)Both Canada and Mexico along with every other country an American can drive to, uses Km. The U.S. is stuck with 2 third world countries as the last holdouts. How does it feel to have the U.S. on par with Liberia and Myanmar (Burma). Regardless, thanks to world trade, more and more U.S. companies are having to work with the metric system, if they want to sell elsewhere. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
As a proud papa... I would open the document in Writer, select all and set styles to Default. Then create the styles I wanted and reformat the whole document. On 12.07.2013 01:17, Wolfgang Keller wrote: For example, several years ago, my 14 year old son challenged himself to type a 50,000 word novel in November, which is National Novel Writers Month. He met his goal, and quickly dropped the project. As a proud papa, I wanted to put his document to paper. He wrote the original in WordPerfect, and it was a formatting mess, with stray tabs, carriage returns, and inconsistent formatting across chapter and section headings. I began the task of reformatting his 127 page novel using WordPerfect, the original program. It didn't take long for me to realize it would take days and days to wade through all of the formatting codes inserted by WP. I have to say that unlike MS Word and its clones OO and LO, Wordperfect *does* allow proper use of styles for structure markup. Among the dozens of different document processing applications I have used over the past 25 years, Wordperfect was one of the best for authoring strongly structured documents, at par with Framemaker. Unfortunately it fell into the hands of an incompentent company (at Corel). Obivously, nothing (besides Indesign with a *competent* typographer in front of it) beats the typographic output of LyX/LaTeX, so if you want to produce a PDF ready for print, there's no other choice. I even use it for letters. Until they get redesigned to implement a proper structure markup style concept and correct typographic features (all line- and page-breaking algorithms from LaTeX are open-source), LO and OO have their value mostly for generating documents from databases. Sincerely, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu
It is good to see that there are more LibO users who don't understand the improvements concerning templates from 3.6 to 4.0. Since a few weeks I try to understand it and still struggle. The only advantage is that I immediately can see thumbnails and this is combined with the disadvantage that the full name of the template is not visible. I hope that someone is brave enough and rethinks the advantages of the old template manager (up to 3.6) and creates a real good one even if this one looks and functions more like the one until 3.6 Reinhold . On 04.07.2013 21:23, Virgil Arrington wrote: I confess that I don't understand this type of improvement in software development. It's sort of like when MS decided that users couldn’t understand the Windows menu structure that had been used for two decades and gave us the ribbon. The LO/OO method of organizing templates has been around for...what, ten ... fifteen years now? If I'm not mistaken it goes all the way back to StarOffice. Long time users have grown accustomed to it. So, what would prompt someone to think it needs fixing? Was there a survey showing that a ton of new people would suddenly start using LO if it would only change its goofy way of organizing templates? I know people are always resistant to change; it took me a couple years to abandon DOS in favor of Windows. And, over time, I may get to like the new template menu placement (if I ever reinstall LO 4 after going back to 3.6.6). But to change a working menu structure just because we can? I just don't get it. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tim Lloyd Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:49 AM To: Thomas Blasejewicz Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu Hi Thomas, I have to admit this confused me also. I don't know whether you can simply organize anymore. From the manual: To begin, choose *File **New **Templates***from the Menu bar to openthe Template Manager dialog. http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/published-lo-4.0/wg4-0-ch10-templates/view At this point you can add, modify, delete and move! Cheers On 07/04/2013 02:38 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good afternoon The last few days I upgraded from 3.6 something to 4.0.4. And this morning I noticed the template menu is gone. One of my computers has still 3.6 on it and there it is under Files - Templates. That's also where the extension items for the extension template changer appeared. After along search I found, that the template changer can now only be found in an unmarked grave = empty white space with a black triangle at its right margin BELOW File - Exit. But so far I was not able to find anything like Templates - Organize anywhere. Where is this now??? Or has the software advanced so far, that creating, deleting, organizing templates etc. is now a thing of the past? Thank you. Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installer Languages
I am one the persons living in a country where my main computer language is not the local (= Japanese) language. On top of this I use 4 languages on my PC. All is working perfectly fine. My OS is XP Prof English with Asian language support package. My PC is equipped with a Japanese keyboard, which is different from the US keyboard, because this makes working in Japanese easier. However, it should also be possible with other keyboards. When I go for the download of LibO, I get the Japanese version offered. I neglect this and choose Change System, Version or Language There I select OS and LibO English US, because this is the multi-language version. I use English as default language and select in the CUSTOMIZED installation additionally Japanese, German, and Dutch; I also include the GUIs in these languages. I personally work with English GUI, the others are for people who need to something on my PC. When I need to switch between Latin character languages I just type in the language and only need to adjust the spell checker. (There is a little bug in 3.6.5 but not too bad; it is reported already.) When switching to Japanese, I use a special key on my keyboard (with a non-Japanese keyboard a certain key combination is needed) and I can work in Japanese. LibO allows switching word-by-word if needed. Switching the GUI takes about 1 min. Tools / Options / Language Settings / Languages selection of the needed GUI language, OK, close LibO and start it again. I am personally very pleased with this functionality of LibO. During the installation you need to unfortunately to understand the local language. The installation wizard starts only with the local language. To choose the installation wizard language could be an enhancement for people who don't speak the local language. I wrote this contribution because the equivalent can be applied for all other non-latin character languages. On 2013-03-11 20:57, Tom wrote: Hi :) There is some discussion on the translators list about which language appears when you install LibreOffice. If you happen to live in a country where the dominant language is not your own then when you buy a computer which language is the LibreOffice installer in 1. your own language 2. the dominant language of the country 3. English (US) Obviously you can change it or add different languages but you have to understand the default language enough to be able to navigate your way around. Apparently in Japan it's not possible to buy a machine with Japanese on it. Keyboards have English as the main letter on each key but it's rare to find one that has Japanese characters even as 2nd place. There are many other reasons why a person's computer might be talking a language that is not easy or them to understand. Here is how the Ubuntu installer gets around the problem. Their installer lists languages with each name written in the language it relates to ... My machine's Regional settings are set to English so i get this at first ... Ubuntu-English-v2.png http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4042985/Ubuntu-English-v2.png However if i use the keyboard aroows to move down a bit then i get to Greek like this ... Ubuntu-ελληνικά-v2.png http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4042985/Ubuntu-%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AC-v2.png note that the installer's dialogue box increases in size to accommodate the increase in paragraph size. Of course it's a bit annoying for me because i only understand 1 language so i can't read all the different names. So if i want to install in Japanese for one of my colleagues then i don't know the difference between Chinese, Korean, Japanese or other ones that look similar to me (errr, ok i cheated and used Google translate). I think the LibreOffice installer might be even better if it could have 2 columns with the 2nd column being a listing in whichever language happens to be selected at the time. For example in the 1st screen-shot the columns would show (just restricting the English English ελληνικά Greek 日本人 Japanese but in the 2nd screen-shot they would appear as English Αγγλικά ελληνικά ελληνικά 日本人 ιαπωνικά I just wondered what other people here thought about the issue. Also i wondered if anyone else have to do IT Support for people whose 1st language is different from your own? Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installer-Languages-tp4042985.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: About.com Readers' Choice Awards 2013 for Office Software
What is the voting procedure? On 2013-03-12 02:08, anne-ology wrote: When one votes more than once in a poll, then that poll is skewed ;-) the mass media has been using these skewed polls for the past few decades; their results are skewed, but no one seems to care anymore ;-( On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Just wanted an update on this so i put it together. If LibreOffice is not offered as a choice then on one day i vote for Google-docs but on another i vote for AOO and the next for NeoOffice. So, i alternate The tricky one is Blackberry because LibreOffice is given as a choice but apparently isn't available on Blackberry. Has anyone else got a system they like using? I keep forgetting to vote every day but AOO seem to have all their people voting all the time so they have recovered from their initial slow start and look like they might take the lead! Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013, 16:53 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] About.com Readers' Choice Awards 2013 for Office Software Further to Italo's post, here is more information: FYI, the About.com Readers' Choice Awards 2013 for Office Software started on Feb. 19 and will end on March 19. You may vote every 24hrs. Let's make our LibreOffice suite the office suite of choice and it would be nice if we won out on all categories where we appear! To vote, you can log in with your Facebook or About.com accounts or you can enter your email address in a field on the page. Here are the details: = = The Readers' Choice Awards 2013 for Office Software categories webpage can be found here: http://office.about.com/od/ReaderResponse/tp/About-Com-Readers-Choice-Awards-2013-For-Office-Software-Nominations.htm = = [edited by Tom on 2013-03-11] As of today, March 11[edited] 2013, LibreOffice ranking in the various Office Software Suites categories is: = Favourite Office Suite for Android: Google Docs/Apps 80% -- Quickoffice Pro HD 20% = Favourite Office Software Suite or App for iOS: Google Apps 72% -- iWork 18% -- Documents Free 9% = Favourite Office Software for Mac: LibreOffice 84% -- iWork 4% -- MSO 2% -- NeoOffice 8% = Favourite Office Software for Windows: LibreOffice 58% -- MSO 3% -- AOO 38% = Favourite Office Software for BlackBerry: LibreOffice 85% -- OfficeSuitePro 14% = Favourite Office Software for Business: MSO 3% -- Google Docs/Apps 38% -- AOO 56% -- WordPerfect 1% = Favourite Academic Software Suite: MSO Home and Student 9% -- Google Apps for Education 90% = Favourite Site for Office Software Templates: LibreOffice templates 59% -- MSO templates 1% - OpenOffice templates 39% = Favourite Cloud Office Suite: LibreOffice, at present, does not have an official Cloud implementation, but is working on it. There is the portable version but that is a little different Favourite Cloud Office Suite: Google docs 80% -- MS 365 6% -- ThinkFree 6% -- NeoOffice 6% = Favourite Office Software Company or Organization Based on Social Responsibility: TheDocumentFoundation 61% -- TheApacheFoundation 35% -- Microsoft 0% = Congrats to all who are voting every 24hrs. If you are not voting yet, feel free to join in. It will make a difference to our brand and show that we are a very committed community. Cheers, Marc [edit: thanks to Marc for pulling the first set of results together] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Another award :-)
Great news On 2013-03-11 22:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I just thought you would like to know about Florian's recent post to the marketing list Congrats to all and regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger hidden To: market...@global.libreoffice.org; market...@us.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 March 2013, 10:47 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Another award :-) Hello, I'm proud to announce that LibreOffice has received another award during CeBIT: https://plus.google.com/116265564718884370181/posts/XVBrGbJQA43 Way to go, folks! ;-) Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] promotion possibility for LibO
Thanks Tom - I really wonder how why this list creates this miserable layout...Info is send the marketing team.On 2013-02-25 17:06, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) This list seems to mess up formatting sometimes so it's worth putting an extra line around urls.Your link to http://openclipart.org got mixed up with the and that followed and resulted in a somewhat weird 404.However yes you can forwards the link to the marketing team market...@global.libreoffice.org Regards from Tom :) From:rost52bugquestcon...@online.deto:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Monday, 25 February 2013, 7:36Subject:[libreoffice-users] promotion possibility for LibO Accidentally I found the following link:http://openclipart.org/andthere I found following textHow can I use these images inOpenOffice.org?--OpenOffice.org(up to version2.3) does not natively support SVG files, however there are twobroad approaches to getting theOCALimages into OpenOffice.The first approach is using vector formats, which are inherentlyhigher quality and scale very well. The second, or fall back,approach is to use bitmap/raster formats, which do not scale well.Can this be forwarded to our marketing people to possibly usethis for promotion?--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: promotion possibility for LibO
Hi Stuart, My concern is not the SVG. LibO can save metafiles in SVG format, thus I assume that it can also import SVG files. Modification of such files is again another story. But thanks for hint and link. I saw on the homepage several times OpenOffice mentioned and I though it would be good to have LibO mentioned as well. Thats all. ROSt52 On 2013-02-25 23:43, V Stuart Foote wrote: rosttyo wrote Can this be forwarded to our marketing people to possibly use this for promotion? @rossttyo, Sure, but not clear what you are suggesting. LibreOffice's import of SVG has been very good since at least the 3.3 builds and fidelity to standards when editing imported SVG in Draw is still improving. You may want to work a bit in a current LibreOffice build with images from the Open Clipart site. You'll find that ALL LibreOffice components will correctly import and render the SVG to bitmap directly. And you'll find that Draw can directly open for edit these SVGs with some loss of format--mainly with transparency issues. Admittedly it would be nice to natively work/save in SVG rather than using export from Draw ODG. But, then I would probably be using the FOSS Inkscape http://inkscape.org project if I were doing any substantive vector art work as SVG. So what is it you were suggesting that LiberOffice Marketing promote regards this stale OpenOffice era blurb? Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/promotion-possibility-for-LibO-tp4039887p4039964.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] promotion possibility for LibO
Accidentally I found the following link:http://openclipart.org/and there I found following textHow can I use these images in OpenOffice.org? -- OpenOffice.org(up to version 2.3) does not natively support SVG files, however there are two broad approaches to getting theOCALimages into OpenOffice. The first approach is using vector formats, which are inherently higher quality and scale very well. The second, or fall back, approach is to use bitmap/raster formats, which do not scale well. Can this be forwarded to our marketing people to possibly use this for promotion? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Embedded Java
Avira Internet Security implemented today a counternmeasure to the Java 7 problem and also showed a special notice on this topic. They state that AVIRA users are safe now. . (XP/SP3) On 2013-01-14 12:57, NoOp wrote: On 01/13/2013 07:44 PM, Paul Schwartz wrote: Does this update fix the Java plugin for Firefox? Don't know. Ask them: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/get-community-support ... Yes. If you are using your distributions version of Oracle Java 7, then they will (eventually) issue a security update. If you have installed on your own, Java7u11 is now available: https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Also from Japan a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Reinhold On 2012-12-22 4:22, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: On 12/21/2012 01:46 PM, RODRIGUEZ FONSECA JORGE ALBERTO wrote: Me too for you and all Regards, Jorge Rodríguez - Mensaje original - De: Eliane Domingos de Sousa elianedomin...@libreoffice.org Para: users@global.libreoffice.org Enviados: Viernes, 21 de Diciembre 2012 7:59:50 Asunto: [libreoffice-users] Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Hi all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! A git for you TDF, thanks for all you do for us! http://blog.pt-br.libreoffice.org/2012/12/21/feliz-natal-e-prospero-2013/ From Brazilian LibreOffice Community!!! Best That tree would make a good image to be placed on next year'sLibreOffice.org's opening page. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] caption numbering positioning
Indeed the example is the preferred version. The other one doesn't really make
sense.
On 2012-12-21 17:07, e-letter wrote:
Readers,
The default behaviour of the 'caption' feature is to place the
category text ('illustration') after the numbering symbol (arabic
number). How to change so that the category text is by default before
the numbering symbol?
'Figure 1' is preferred to '1 Figure' ! :)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] caption numbering positioning
Brian, thanks for the hint on where the setting needs to be done.
On 2012-12-21 17:34, Brian Barker wrote:
At 10:07 21/12/2012 +0200, Nobody Noname wrote:
The default behaviour of the 'caption' feature is to place the category text ('illustration')
after the numbering symbol (arabic number).
Is it?
How to change so that the category text is by default before the numbering symbol? 'Figure 1' is
preferred to '1 Figure' ! :)
Are you using AutoCaption? If so, go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | AutoCaption and
change the selection in the drop-down list for Caption order.
Are you adding captions manually? In the Caption dialogue, click Options... and again change the
selection in the drop-down list for Caption order..
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
Your welcome. And have a great vacation as well.On 2012-12-16 2:11, Mark Silva wrote: THAK YOU!!! that was what I needed to fix it. you all have a great holidayOn Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:37 PM, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:red line indicates that your spell checker is working.Did you select a custom dictiionary in tools/options/language settings/writing aids? I checked their: standard for all and all words of all languages I am using and are not found in the normal dictionairies are in there.I enter them the same way you decribed.On 12/15/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Silva wrote: By right clicking on the word (When it has the red line under it and spell check on) I chooseaddto add it to thedictionary, but it does NOT add it. I was hoping there was a setting I have missed to fix this or a way to add acustom dictionary that works. I am using OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:21 PM, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary?This information will help to find a solution.On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote:OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply justdon't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a customDictionary but cant find that option either.If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appearsto be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name isnot recognized. --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary? This information will help to find a solution. On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote: OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit LibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply just don't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a custom Dictionary but cant find that option either. If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appears to be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name is not recognized. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Dictionary add not working
red line indicates that your spell checker is working.Did you select a custom dictiionary in tools/options/language settings/writing aids? I checked their: standard for all and all words of all languages I am using and are not found in the normal dictionairies are in there.I enter them the same way you decribed.On 12/15/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Silva wrote: By right clicking on the word (When it has the red line under it and spell check on) I chooseaddto add it to thedictionary, but it does NOT add it. I was hoping there was a setting I have missed to fix this or a way to add acustom dictionary that works. I am using OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:21 PM, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:How did you try to add the custom words to which custom dictionary?This information will help to find a solution.On 2012-12-14 02:21, Mark Silva wrote:OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 BitLibraOffice Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)When I try to add custom words (names and stuff for a story) It simply justdon't work at all. nothing happens and I can find a way to add a customDictionary but cant find that option either.If I right click on a made up name or word and select add, the word appearsto be added, but once I close LO and open it later the same word name isnot recognized. --For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] user interface language
I just installed yesterday Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) English US Multilanguage on XP/SP3 English with Asian language support package.. During customized installation I selected English, Japanese, German and Dutch for GUI and installed the language packs for the same languages. I have not problem and when I open Tools - Options - Language setting - user interface I see ALL the languages the way I installed them and made a test. All languages work for the GUI. The OS should not be the problem. Could it be that only Japanese was selected during installations? I would try to re-install and/or make a new user profile. On 12/15/2012 3:26 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good afternoon As I just wrote in a different post, today I installed the newest version of LO 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff) from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ LibreOffice *Windows, version 3.6.4, English (US)*. Yet, after installation I noticed, that the user interface language is Japanese (my OS language). Not that I have any problems with Japanese, but before I uninstalled LO I had it set to English. THAT (multilanguage version) is what I am supposed to have downloaded. Tools - Options - Language setting - user inferface gives ONLY Japanese as available options. According to: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/ In the dropdown list on the right, choose the language you want. If you just want US English, you don't need any language pack. (I downloaded and installed also the English help file, which I usually do not do.) What is the trick, to set the user interface language back to English? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO crashes when using File - Wizard
Ups, it seems I am lucky. Exactly the same version on my computer does all the wizards. As I never use them I made a test. No problem. I am no very curious about the cause of your problem On 12/15/2012 3:20 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Goodafternoon (2012/11/21 17:30), Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Windows XP Pro I just installed the very latest version of LO ( 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)) and noticed, that LO crashes EVERY time I try to use File - Wizard - whatever (means ANY function under Wizard) This happens ONLY on my office computer WHAT am I supposed to be looking for / changing? Thank you. Today, I uninstalled LO, deleted old LO folders, restarted the computer and installed the newest version (3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff). Java is set and running, The ext. (you know what) thing should cause no problem, since the same functions are installed in my home computer and there DO NOT cause any trouble. Still, LO crashes 100% when using ANY of the wizard functions. Is there anything else I can try? Thank you Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?
Quite a lot of interesting discussions about the possibility of looking at 2 documents the same time. I was especially surprised that this very nice feature will be gone in MSO 2013. Luckily I use LibO only thus cannot feel cheated by MS when this feature is gone after I purchased an expensive upgrade. As a reference, one can just look at MSO 2003. There I used this feature mainly for word documents of the same language or with different languages. I could scroll both documents synchronized or separately. All in one big but split window. I used this for many years until I switched to LibO. I think it doesn't need complicated programming and I also feel that it could be applied to all elements of LibO the same way. (Be careful I not a dev and don't have dev knowledge; its just my feeling.) If someone is interested in more details, let me know, I will fire up my old PC where there is still MSO 2003 installed and look at the details. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] A Tale of Two Office Suites
Virgil, Thanks! It can't be said better! Isn't the statement that competition helps to improve not simply an excuse to not being force to work on an attempt that both (LibO AOO) teams can work together again? Isn't MSO a good competitor, which helps improve an OpenSource Office (the combination of LibO and AOO) suit being available for those who just cannot afford MSO? I really would like to understand what attempts have been made to get both teams together and why the attempts failed? And when will the next attempt be made? I German is a phrase which I found being translated at LEO into English as: Constant dripping wears away the stone. The Japanese say: Until the ears hurt. I hope the responsible persons of LibO and AOO keep talking to each other until they find a way to cooperate again as one team to create the best Office Suit available and affordable for those with less financial resources. That is the real challenge and worthwhile to go for it. ROSt52 On 2012-12-11 07:28, VA wrote: I may be way out of line here, but I’m sending this post to the user lists for both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I have both programs on my computer and regularly use both. Like many of you out there, I have subscribed to both user lists. I don’t know the full history behind the Libre/Oracle split, but from what I have read on various forums and lists, there is considerable emotional pain resulting from the split. The result is two different FOSS office suites. Some have pleaded for the two to combine forces. Others have noted that the competition is good for the end user as it results in more rapid development of improvements to both suites. I see both sides, but I’d like to point out one thing I have noticed in my own use of the two programs. Some computer programs are what I would call “load and use.” Programs like web browsers and mail clients, etc., require little to no configuration or customization. One can simply do productive use without much thought. I can easily bounce back and forth between Internet Explorer and Firefox, Live Mail and Thunderbird. Not so with office suites. To get the most out of my office suites, I create and edit templates, page, character and paragraph styles. I have to set the autocorrect functions of each program to my liking to prevent a (c) from turning into a ©. While it’s not essential, I tend to customize my toolbars and have created helpful macros. Effectively using an office suite requires a commitment akin to a marriage. For this reason, bouncing back and forth between two suites is counterproductive. I find myself importing and exporting settings, styles, and templates between the two programs rather than simply doing my work. Why do I put up with this inconvenience? Because each program has essential virtues over the other. For example, if I need to properly hyphenate my US English, I use LibreOffice as (to date), OpenOffice fails to properly hyphenate US English. But, if I need to create mailing lists, as I just did for Christmas cards, I use OpenOffice as its Avery 5160 template is more properly aligned than that found in LibreOffice. LibreOffice remembers my hierarchical stylelist setting, whereas OpenOffice does not, but OpenOffice more effectively supports the advanced Graphite features of the Linux Libertine font. So, depending on my specific needs, I bounce back and forth. I’m sure many would suggest that I help out by reporting bugs. I have done so, but even I get lost keeping track of the bugs of each program that I am most interested in following. I suspect this situation will only get worse as each program develops features that will be lacking in the other. And, while I’m not a developer, my guess is that both programs are so complex that keeping up with each other will become an increasingly elusive effort. And, the time will come when decisions will be made NOT to implement features found in the other program. I truly like the motivation generated with competition, and sometimes having multiple programs on my computer to meet specialized needs can be helpful. But, in the world of office suites, where user commitment is essential to effective use, it would be very helpful to us end users if TDF and Apache could somehow overcome their differences and join forces to give us one glorious office suites rather than two almost glorious office suites. These are just my thoughts. I’d be curious as to how many others are using both programs because of advantages of each over the other. Virgil -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
I think this it is not much of a problem. Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now. or go http://www.libreoffice.org/ Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous setting automatically. Its a 5 min job. I takes more time to get the dust from the old typewriter. Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4 On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote: ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word files ... what could have happened ??? If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will the problem persist? AND where is the best place to download the program - updates - without all the bits and pieces separated out; ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload the updated version [to which ???]. The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel ;-) Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ... or is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and retrieve the manual typewriter from the attic ... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Please don't forget Impress and maybe Draw and Base at the end. On 2012-11-30 00:23, charles meyer wrote: We could have both. There could be a 2 page Quick Reference cheat sheet for easier tasks and then the next 4 pages could address more challenging functions. That way anyone looking to check on (or forgetting) how to do a quick task could see the cheat sheet and for the more advanced tasks the remainder of the Quick Reference/FAQ could have graphic images of the steps needed. I like the idea of having one for Writer and another for Calc and including tasks common to both. The harder part may be eliciting solutions.:) Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:07:37 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Those free Quick Reference guides are a start. Each package has 2 pages. I was thinking about having a 6 page reference sheet for Writer, and another one for Calc, with maybe 2 pages for the 6 as a generic info about the ToolsOptions menus. Maybe a brief info about custom installs for Windows, adding extensions and templates via. the Extension Manager, and other such info that might be wanted/needed. So, 4 of the 6 pages will be for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, or Draw, or Math, etc., etc., while the final 2 pages would be the same information that you might want for any of the quick reference guides. I still am waiting for the ones I bought. They really fill the sheets with a lot of information, or at least with the mathematics and science ones I bought in early 2000. I will see what they did for Word and such. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
Then I should be able to open it soon when 3.6.4 will be released. Next week??? I will give it a try because I am on XP On 2012-11-30 13:28, Chris Carlson wrote: I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine. Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6. On Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7. Silly me to think that this is the latest version. So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix. Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed. Thanks, Chris On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris Chris I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish. Jay snip -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article forLibreOffice
Does by any chance someone know how to open and old Lotus Symphony File created approx 1995? I still have a floppy disc drive and thus access the file; at least I assume I can access the file. Thanks in advance! On 2012-11-28 05:04, VA wrote: For any document that I think I may need well into the future, I have learned to save a copy in plain ASCII text. Yes, I lose all my formatting, but I at least have a version of the text itself that can be read by any word processor or text editor. It's at least better than pen and paper. Virgil -Original Message- From: Steven Bradley Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:24 PM To: laurent alonso ; LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article forLibreOffice That is really unfortunate. In Windows/DOS, we have problems with unrecognizable characters, and characters that are part of the formatting, but not so much the difficulties you are talking about--although at least one program (the old Ashton-Tate solution known as Framework) DID have quite a mess of confusing characters in it, and scattered throughout in some sort of order, so I'm not sure if this is the same thing you mean. It is really frustrating to realize that if you had written everything by hand, you might be better off than with a computer that stores your informationI picked up some of my old grad school notes (1970's), and they were quite readable--because they were typed and annotated on PAPER. This is something that has to be fixed for the future. That's why I said that it's important that there be a single standard, and that the various regulatory authorities demand that it be so (think if we had multiple voltages and amperages, and frequencies in our electrical systems, and if DC current was used by some, AC by others--in the same country...the preservation of data is at least as important.). On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:35 AM, laurent alonso laurent.alo...@inria.frwrote: Hello Steven, Le 26 nov. 2012 à 19:43, Steven Bradley a écrit : I totally agree with all this--but in a pinch, as everyone I'm sure knows, one can open a document (most of them at least), and go back and decode it with a text processor like Notepad or Notepad++; come to think of it, I'm actually surprised that Sourceforge doesn't offer a converter for all those old documents--not to mention all the documents written on Apple II's, etc. All of us have them. I have many documents written in Wordstar, Wordperfect, and so on. As I am trying to do something similar on Sourceforge, for many archaic mac classic documents (you can look for libmwaw ) , this is not so simple : - maybe 1/3 of formats, that I see, do not store the text continuously but by blocks in order to be more efficient : for instance, they can cut the text in block which have between 128 and 256 characters and then stores block 3, block 1, block 2. Thus when you add some characters, they only need to update a small block (and sometimes split a block of 256 in two blocks ) : this includes Word v3-5, FullWrite, MacWritePro... This also means that if you read the file continuously you will read many junk part of the files which contains not relevant text. - I have 3 formats which compress text data before storing them on the disk : this includes MacWrite, MindWrite, HanMac Word ( a format which I am studying actually, ...) ; FullWrite also stores a space character with the ascii code 0 (which means that notepad will not retrieve any space characters ) - after on Mac Classic, you can have as many fonts as you want and each can have a different encoding ; this means that you must at least retrieve the fonts name, if you want to retrieve the good character ( this also means that as I found/code only a subset of the fonts encoding, I can only retrieve roman text ). -- Amicalement, Laurent. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice
I feel that Virgil is right and still have hope that the 2 teams will join one day again. This enlarged team would be a very strong one against MS. There is a proverb in German, which goes approximately like this: Hope only dies at the very end! On 2012-11-28 23:55, VA wrote: My guess is that, at some point, either Apache or LibO will become different enough and so clearly superior that the other will fade away. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice
This reminds me to video systems: Video2000 was said to be the best but died quickly. Sony BetaMax is only alive in the professional sector, but VDF (is this correct?), always called the worst video system in still alive... On 2012-11-29 00:14, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 28/11/2012 at 15:55, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That may be the hazard of having a truly open and standard file format. It eliminates a program's ability to survive. This is far from truth. Take a look at e-mail protocols: POP3 and IMAP. Do we have only two e-mail server apps and two e-mail client apps, one for each? No. We have plenty of servers and tons of clients. Take a look at XMPP messaging protocol (this is what Gmail and Facebook uses for their chats). Again: plenty of servers, tons of apps. Take a look at BitTorrent file sharing protocol. There are many clients for every platform. We have standards for HTML and CSS, yet there are at least four competing web browsers out there (although there was time when market was monopolized). This list can go on. Standard file formats are pretty much irrelevant to program's ability to survive. It's number of features, availability on certain OS, UI, branding, number translations and other things which are around standards that matters. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
I follow Brian's action and leave my answers here. My answers are straight forward and no looking into the manual to show also what is needed. I am using LibO since a bit less then 6 month. On 2012-11-21 05:11, charles meyer wrote: Right now, I'd appreciate it if anyone can please share how to do the following in Writer? 1. Suppress header on the first page of a text document Use a diffrent page layout for first page. 2. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming a solid line No idea 3. Change line spacing - context menu - where’s that? Select the paragraph and right click into the paragraph and select the context menu for line spacing and see how I have to do the change 4. Suppressing hyperlinks No idea 5. Indents - where and how to change Either looking in style or Format menu or Tool menu and search for the the required menu item. 6. Turn on/off Fast Save - so document doesn't leave personal info in a document No idea what is Fast Save really. 7. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool Look into the Edit menu, but the in LibO is different 8. Strike-through a word or sentence - context menu again? Select text, right click and search in context menu for a suitable item 9. Eliminating hard returns I am using non printable characters being visible. thus delete the character 10. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory No idea what this is. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
I have concerns about the YouTube HowTos because sound recording is often not done very good and it takes to much time to watch the movies. Screen clippings and text is much faster to be used. On 2012-11-22 04:54, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I have only just thought of using links or QR codes to point people to YouTube HowTos or proper documentation for things that might be a paragraph or more. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 15:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart In the end, having a quick study guide or cheat sheet listed on one of the Wiki pages will be needed. If I was to create one or be part of a project that does it as a group, I would insist that it be linked there for anyone to get freely and easily. The Wiki pages are easy for a list or table of things, but for a document that looks like a normal reference guide[s] I have seen it does not work well to deal with that type of formatting. YES, we could use a place for people to list all of the quick reference or quick explanation on how to do things in LO. I would love to see someone compile a list of shortcuts and menu options to setup and do various tasks that beginning users would want to know. As I said before, I do not use much of the potential abilities of any of the modules of LO. I just use what I need and learn what I do not know but need to do. I no longer spend hours and hours learning all of the ins and outs of a package like I use to do in the 90's and early 00's. We will need to have screen clips of all of the menu options and such that would help the users. Not all of the ToolsOptions sub-menus will be needed to be used by a beginner to Writer or Calc. I would start with all the things I think new users would need to know for Writer and general setup. Then a separate quick guide/sheet for Calc can be done. I have not see any single laminated guide for the entire MSO. They are divided up into the different modules [Word, Excel, etc.]. That is what we should do as well. I think a 3 double-sided laminated panels are the normal size of these quick guides, of so I have seen in the past. Having 6 letter size pages of columns and text blocks organized into different categories can be hard to do, or easy to do, depending on the person and what he/she has to work with. If I had a list of all the needed things to be placed on those panels, it would be a lot easier. As I stated, it will be easier to see what a professional company has on their Word 2010 guide and then start gathering the needed items for a Writer guide. I like to see a lot of screen-clips to show new users where all of the option are that they might want to use. Then add the shortcuts and brief descriptions on how to do some of the things they might want to do. On 11/21/2012 08:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) How about someone creating a page on the official wiki? Then anyone can add to it? Charles have you done a wiki-page before? If not i might be able to start a new page for it but only in a few days time, not right-away. It's not hugely tough to figure out tbh and you can give it a go because i might well be able to fix it without losing data or work if you are not completely happy with the 1st attempt. I've lost track of what people are thinking of. * If it's quick little things, along the lines of Ctrl P for printing in MSO and something else in LO (and something else again in LO on Macs). Errr, i think that's a bad example because it's about the same in all. * If it's larger things, such as little paragraphs or even entire pages then i have a feeling it might be possible to get rough drafts that are already done. The docs team seem to have access to something for each new branch as it arrives that they then make slightly more people-friendly. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 12:52 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart I am not the best person to create a final chart/guide/sheet. Due to the 3 strokes, my communication skills were affected so I do not have an easy time trying to get the correct/proper wording out - halk the times I need to do so. I will look into what is being done and see what can be done to make one for LO. I will see about an outline of what is to be gathered and some basic ideas of what needs to be included. BUT, I do not want to be the guy to do the work all by his lonesome. I have too many projects in the past where I started with a group and ended up doing the work for the bosses all by myself. I may be able to do something I would like to see,
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Charles, Where do you want the answers to be sent to? On 2012-11-21 05:11, charles meyer wrote: Right now, I'd appreciate it if anyone can please share how to do the following in Writer? 1. Suppress header on the first page of a text document 2. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming a solid line 3. Change line spacing - context menu - where’s that? 4. Suppressing hyperlinks 5. Indents - where and how to change 6. Turn on/off Fast Save - so document doesn't leave personal info in a document 7. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool 8. Strike-through a word or sentence - context menu again? 9. Eliminating hard returns 10. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to edit MS doc(x) files without breaking it for MS?
On 2012-11-21 04:18, M Henri Day wrote: It would be wonderful, for example, if the Commision were to mandate that any public documents in the Union would have to be couched in the latest current odt format so that they could be read by any standards-compatible editing programme, but I deem that extremely unlikely. We'd probably be bombed Henri I feel that there is a chance to approach the EU but we need to have a bit less bugs to be successful. Can LibO join forces with AOO and Virgil mentioned a few days back? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
On 2012-11-21 01:04, Jay Lozier wrote: Truthfully the market has matured enough for office suites that improvements are incremental not fundamentalThe market growth for MS is much slower because for many there is no major reason to upgrade for many unless forced to by lack of support of either the file format or the software itself. -- Jay Lozier I think Jay expressed it very well. New features do hardly increase productivity. Quite in contrary, the new ribbon cause a tremendous slow down in productivity for several months and requires corporations to spend a lot of time and money to train people. Additionally MS will change to subscription of SW. Both aspects together is a chance for LibO and AOO. I am looking forward to the announcement that both teams tie up, slow down the development of new features and substantially reduce the bugs. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] apply numbering to headings styles
On 2012-11-19 19:09, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 19/11/2012 at 10:28, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: How to activate numbering for heading styles? Have a look at Tools → Outline Numbering... Why the hell is this menu item under Tools - I always search in Format and Styles. Thanks for the question and answer. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
I would participate as a tester. I can't do more than test and feedback because I am using LibO since a bit less than 6 month. On 2012-11-20 05:53, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: On 11/19/2012 03:06 PM, M Henri Day wrote: 2012/11/19 charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com Works for me. How shall we all get started with this? Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:54:22 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org snip I think that maybe we need to skip a comparison chart and just work on a 4 page cheat sheet guidethat new users could use to start learning how to use LO instead of MSO. Something that would give them all the needed points to get started with LO. Make one for Writer, one for Calc, one for Impress, etc., etc.. Sounds like an excellent idea to me !... Henri Maybe, after this coming holiday, I will look into ordering one of the Word or MSO laminated quick study guides from BarChart, Inc. http://www.barcharts.com/ They did a great job with the Medical and Mathematics guides I bought back in 2000-2002. I bought the Windows 98 guides for my wife, and they were good for her. So It would be interesting to see what the professional guide making company does for Word or MSO. I would love to find a Word study guide sheet - download for free - but I have not seen any. I have not really looked for any either, much. To be honest, if we have some guides to look at, then we may have some ideas on what might be useful to have in a quick study guide or quick reference guide. Well, after the current holiday, I will look more into this topic. Maybe I will be able to start something in December. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
I only can use Virgil's word I hate to say it but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company and also with external partners. Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many others? Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, LibO must achieve more than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed. On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote: I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
Like Carl. I unfortunately cannot contribute to development work. I would just like to come back to productivity and my own experience: LibO has features which are as good or better than MSO in respect to productivity. What reduces my productivity are bugs (first it takes time to find out is a bug or did I make a mistake; second bug reporting) and corrections of MSO files I receive because they open only open with errors. How can LibO make market shares against MSO? For my feeling shares can be taken with a high productivity of LibO. This can be achieved with many bugs less and full compatibility. MSO doesn' come up with a new format every week, thus our devs have a very good chance to adjust LibO to full compatibility. I am convinced that - a big part of the reasons why the City of Freiburg considers to dump OO are the above mentioned productivity issues (bugs and non-compatibility) - above sketched productivity increase would enable LibO to gain substantial market shares from MSO, - and that the required productivity increase can be released within not too much time. On 2012-11-19 12:04, Carl Paulsen wrote: In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a high file compatibility with MS Office. Virtually every file I receive from MS Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost NEVER convert correctly, at least from MSO to LO). I'm only an occasional Office suite user so I put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been able to convince others to use LO for this reason alone. And I mostly work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users. I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from keeping it's formatting a moving target. With that in mind, I just can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep up and make inroads. Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about contributing to development. Carl On 11/18/12 7:48 PM, rost52 wrote: I only can use Virgil's word I hate to say it but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company and also with external partners. Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many others? Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, LibO must achieve more than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed. On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote: I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office. I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but highly often isn't enough. In my experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites. File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office. Virgil -Original Message- From: Pedro Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ? NoOp wrote Which part of that do you not understand? This part apache.incubator.ooo.user You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that). I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense. And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to answer (unfortunately in German) http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ There are some translations in the comments. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer: AutoCorrect language resets and sticks to English after Japanese script is inserted
Now I am reaching the end of my knowledge, but I don't give up yet. Questions: 1 - What kind of keyboard are you using? (Portugese, English, or Japanese layout) 2 - How do you change to IME input (please explain keystrokes or mouse clicks) Additionally, you could try to unzip the odt-file and look into the code behind to see if there is something which leads to understanding and solution. However, I am not the expert to explain the needed procedure. Have a look in Ask LibO and search a bit. There was recently an explanation on how to unzip an odt file. Maybe someone in this forum could give some explanations on unzipping and odt-file On 2012-11-16 08:59, Minix wrote: After the update the problem persisted, as expected. I attached to this e-mail a screenshot that shows the problem in action. The keyboard layouts used are English International and Microsoft IME for Japanese. What I did in that screenshot: * I typed Português English with the English International layout * Switched to Japanese IME * Typed 日本語 * Switched back to English International * Typed Português English. The first two words are treated as Portuguese, the third as Japanese, and the last two as English. I have already tried setting the locale to Português (Brasil), but the problem persists. I have also resetted the user profile, as another user suggested, to no avail. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Minix b...@2dbonsai.com wrote: Thank you, but that didn't seem to fix the problem. I see there's a new LibreOffice version. I believe this issue wasn't corrected, but I'll update it anyway. I'll let you know if the behavior changes. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:39 PM, MiguelAngel mari...@miguelangel.mobiwrote: El 07/11/12 1:28, Minix escribió: Thank you. I have reproduced your exact same steps, but with Brazilian Portuguese instead of German. The document language switches back to English as soon as I start typing again. Likewise, the default language in ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguagesDefault languages for documents also switches back to English/Japanese when this happens. Whenever I set the language back to Portuguese, newly typed text is treated as English. I can, for example, select all the text in Portuguese and set it to be treated as Portuguese, but any new or modified text gets treated as English. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com**wrote: I am not sure if my test matches your situation: I have LibO: - User interface English - Asian language: Japanese - German dictionary installed - Normally I am using English and Japanese Test: - Opened a new writer document, started typing in German. - The spellchecker showed errors; red wavy lines under words. - Changed to German (Tools/Language/For all text / German) - Spellchecker removed red wavy lines under words. - Switch over to Japanese writing (半角／全角key) and wrote a Japanese sentence (Kanji, hiragana, katakana) without any problems. No wavy red lines under the Japanese words. - Switched back from Japanese (半角／全角key again) and continued writing German. No wavy red lines under the German words. Thus writer recognized German correctly. - copied Japanese text into clipboard and pasted at the end of the German text (no switching to Japanese writing) - Continued writing German and all is okay. I am using LibO 3.5.7 on XP / SP3 Hope it gives you a hint. On 2012-11-06 23:05, Minix wrote: Good afternoon. I'm sorry for insisting, but it's been 13 days and I haven't had a single response, nor were able to fix the issue. At the very least, is anyone here affected by this problem? Thank you. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Minix b...@2dbonsai.com wrote: Good evening. I'm running LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 on Windows 7. My default language in LibreOffice is set to Brazilian Portuguese. When I'm typing a text in Portuguese and insert Japanese text, the AutoCorrect changes the language to the following text to English. The text that has already been typed as Portuguese remains unaffected. I am able to set the text manually back to Portuguese, but as soon as Japanese text is typed, the roman script that comes afterward is treated again as English. Is this a known problem? Do anyone know a solution or workaround that doesn't require manually changing the language every time? Thank you. - Raphael Campos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.* *** org users%2Bhelp@global.**libreoffice.orgusers%252bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.**libreoffice.org/get-help/** mailing-lists/how-to-**unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundati**on.org/**http://documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette
Re: [libreoffice-users] Inserting an OLE as an Icon and Create Package
I am still using 3.5.7, thus cannot make a test. However, seeing that you are still using 3.6.0 I would got and try 3.6.3 which is released. On 2012-11-13 22:48, Gopi Krishna V wrote: Hi I am trying to insert an object in OLE. The steps i am following: Insert - Object - OLE Object - further objects - create from file - browse - select the file - select the display as icon - OK. at this stage instead of inserting the object the program is asking for create package - browse etc. i was at a loss to understand this. I experimented but could not come to a conclusion or insert the object as icon in Calc or Writer. (Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512), win 7, 64 bit. I am attaching the screen shot file along with this for ready reference. thanks Gopi Krishna V Sr. Manager Admin SoCtronics Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Plot No. 89 90, Road No.2, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad 500034, India. P: +91 40 3061 F: +91 40 30615560 M: +91 9912379998 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [Writer] language tool
On 2012-11-12 23:04, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Although it is not needed to know these things, it does help some of us to know what LO is being used, what languages are being used by the users, and other thingslike the extensions being used. I am using English, Japanese, German and Dutch and recommend just today LibO to a friend who will set up Dutch, French, English and German. For my daughter I set up Dutch, English, and German. Once I can convert my wife, she will run Japanese, English and German. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] bug report server is down
Hi,Just wanted to report a bug viahttps://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/when I received message with more or less incomprehensible stuff except for Japanese. The Japanese message says that the server is stopped for maintenance reasons or the server has a performance problem etcIt would be good if this message would be readable in other languages. Below is a part of the screen shot but I don't know if this is to be seen in the user-mail. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: ideas for campaigns
I would add a banner to my company's homepage. Depending on how a banner would like, I even imagine to have it on presentations (something like: This presentation is created using LibO). On 2012-11-05 21:19, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) There are some interesting tasks for people joining the Design Team, and the Marketing Team right now. Anyone interested in getting involved or with a sketch or few they would like to share then please join the appropriate list and say hello. As always the Documentation List is an interesting crowd to join in with and has tons of things to get involved in. So, it's not all about coders and devs but they are always welcome too. Many different people with very diverse skills do well here and it can be a good place to build-up a good portfolio. Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz hidden To: market...@global.libreoffice.org Cc: des...@global.libreoffice.org des...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 5 November 2012, 10:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: ideas for campaigns Hello Sophie, Le dimanche 04 novembre 2012 à 20:41 +0100, Sophie Gautier a écrit : Hi all, Re-sent with the good address ;) On 04/11/2012 20:34, Sophie Gautier wrote: I would like to throw some ideas for the next donation campaign or the next com campaign, you can forget about it if you want, I'm not a specialist just an idea picker from the other projects ;) - have ready to use donation buttons/banners (translatable) for our supporters who want to put them on their site or articles. - same with a thank you button - have a common thread (I imagine something with our logo) that any of us can follow, imagine and relay on our social media - have some large objectives mentioned so people may bet for what they are giving - have a more aggressive campaign with 2 or 3 people in charge of repeating the message, thanking people, creating buzz around it for a fixed period (not to bother people ;) - mark a deadline because that push people to invest themselves more than if it's diluted in time. Kind regards Sophie Thanks for passing this around. So essentially this is a call to design web buttons and banners for our future and present(?) donation campaigns. Interested people please upload your designs on our wiki in the design section. Thank you, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] bug or missing functionality in Impress/Chart ?
I want to make a chart with a changeable table in the background. This means, when a data point changes, I want to open the data table of the chart in Impress and correct the data which have changed.On 2012-11-06 07:04, anne-ology wrote: Do you wish an image of the table in the Impress file?,or do you wish to have a changeable table in the Impress file?If the former, then (1) make an image of the table - possibly through one of the capture programs -then (2) plop this image into the Impress file.If the latter, then I haven't a clue;-)On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Dr. R. O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comwrote:I wanted to create a chart in ImpressInserted a chartOpened the chart data tableSo far all fine and as expectedWhen I wanted to copy data array (2 rows, 5 columns) from Calc into the table, the data of the arrayselected on copied into the clipboard all get pasted into the cell I selected (top left corner)Even adjusting the chart data table to exactly the size as the original data array resulted in alldata in the selected cell in the chart data table.Is this a bug or a missing functionality in Impress?The ability to copy and array of data from Calc into the chart data table would increase productivity.XP/SP3 LibO 3..5.7 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] quotes about Freedom
Great words. Thanks Tom. and enhances the freedom of others is a part of why I am here. Nice weekend to all. On 2012-11-02 22:04, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Searching through photos for the cover of my company's AGM i stumbled on some great images (sadly i can't share) and this quote To be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela We often get caught-up in the fact that LO is a product and in the details of how it works or where something is not quite working and maybe how to work-around that. I just wanted to congratulate everyone here for doing a fantastic job of working hard towards the goals stated by Nelson Mandela in that quote. Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] slide with a picture and some text
I would do it this way: 1 -Create a new slide - any layout is good for now 2 - Insert the picture and move it to the left side 3 - Open task pane / layout 4 -Select: title and 2 content 5 - double click on title and 2 contents 6 - picture and text are arranged parallel to each other You might need to adjust the size of the picture right click on the picture: position and size On 2012-11-01 19:09, Gergely Buday wrote: Hi there, I would like to create a slide with Impress that contains a large image on the left and some text on the right. Should I create a new slide master for this, or it can be done easier? I'm now reading the pdf docs about slide masters but it seems uneasy to create a new slide master for each different image size. Isn't it possible to just put an image somewhere and float text around it? - Gergely -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer
This seems to be a magic problem. It comes and goes. No chance to reproduce it. I reported a bug and learned that there was a problem reported before. No cure yet. bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56556 On 2012-10-31 00:41, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Weird. It 'should' automatically default to the same file-name as it's Doc/DocX or Odt file-name. Someone else had the same problem a few weeks ago, perhaps a month or 2. Have you tried renaming your User Profile? (the magic cure-all) Regards from Tom :) From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012, 4:18 Subject: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer When I export an LibO file (e.g. abcd.odt) to pdf, I would like that the original file name is automatically transferred to become the pdf-file name (e.g .abcd.pdf). At least in version 3.5.6.2 this was possible for a certain while, then this functionality disappeared and came back again. After upgrading to 3.5.7.2 the file name line appears blank when making an pdf-export. Is this a bug? Do I miss a setting somewhere? As I cannot find any information in the LO documentation etc., I ask you to please give me a hint how this can be done. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer
I can give an answer myself. Later yesterday, Writer started again to export files to pdf using the original filename of the odt-file. It seems there is a bug involved. Howver, I don't know how to reproduce it. Should others, observe the same, please try to observe possible causes for the bug and report it. ROSt On 2012-10-29 13:18, rost52 wrote: When I export an LibO file (e.g. abcd.odt) to pdf, I would like that the original file name is automatically transferred to become the pdf-file name (e.g .abcd.pdf). At least in version 3.5.6.2 this was possible for a certain while, then this functionality disappeared and came back again. After upgrading to 3.5.7.2 the file name line appears blank when making an pdf-export. Is this a bug? Do I miss a setting somewhere? As I cannot find any information in the LO documentation etc., I ask you to please give me a hint how this can be done. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem sorting data in Calc 3.6.2 with headers
Thanks for reporting this bug. Here is where you can do it: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ On 2012-10-28 04:21, MR ZenWiz wrote: I originally reported this against 3.60 (I think), but now I have the refined detail. I do my expense balances in a spreadsheet with a header line. One of the columns is called What, which is how I categorize my expenses. If I sort the data and the first sort key is the What column, even though I select the Range contains column labels option, the sort includes the header line, which puts the header down near the bottom. This doesn't happen when I sort by the date column as the first sort key, just the alphabetical column. I'll report this as a bug if I can remember where to do that MR -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] export to pdf does not carry over the file name of writer
When I export an LibO file (e.g. abcd.odt) to pdf, I would like that the original file name is automatically transferred to become the pdf-file name (e.g .abcd.pdf). At least in version 3.5.6.2 this was possible for a certain while, then this functionality disappeared and came back again. After upgrading to 3.5.7.2 the file name line appears blank when making an pdf-export. Is this a bug? Do I miss a setting somewhere? As I cannot find any information in the LO documentation etc., I ask you to please give me a hint how this can be done. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...
This is a very interesting information. I am not really surprised by the ration indicated here. I exepcte finding the cause of a bug takes much more time than final fix. I am grateful to the dev because I know myself how difficult it is to find a bug in a complicated SW. Question: What means: - bot lists -FDO On 2012-10-18 23:42, Joel Madero wrote: This is going to go on my list of QA stats that I prepare for our team. I'm not sure how I'll get the data BUT when I do I suspect that 90+% of our work goes towards bug fixing, 10% or so goes towards enhancements. Once I get the data together I'll make sure to send it out to the user list. One good way to know that most of our work goes towards bug fixing is to sit in LibreOffice dev chat and watch as the bot lists the patches being pushed, I RARELY see anything but bug fixes. Another good indicator is looking at FDO and seeing that most enhancements are left untouched (unfortunate but we just don't have enough developers). Regards, Joel On 10/18/2012 03:25 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Yes, but rather than learn new words for all those sorts of things i thought it was smart to re-use words that we ARE familiar with in order to give a close approximation to what is going on. LO is a meritocracy which suggests there are leaders leading. There is some sort of management structure that has some sort of hierarchy but one that can respond sensibly to people's changing lives rather than being stagnant and brittle. We don't need to know the exact details and just using words that are similar enough is good enough for us on this list. If people want details then they can probably find them out easily enough by joining the devs list or looking around their wiki and places. It's not hidden it's just too much for me to think about right now and their are tons of ways they could have structured it sensibly to deal with the type of work they do. The main point is that devs are roughly equal to rock gods imo while we hang around helping people with their tickets and point them to the bar. Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012, 11:08 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ... I don't mean that a single manager makes all decisions and the team has to follow. The word manager could and should be understood also as management team, decision making team, leadership, etc. I am not familiar with the structure of the dev team and decision making processes. Thus, I used simply manager. At the end it is the dev team bringing LO forward. Let me repeat myself, but I respect these people a lot and I am very grateful for all the work they did and do. On 18.10.2012 16:44, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 I think that it's precisely because we see so much great development being done that we get excited about it and want more. Also the fact that people can post bug-reports and even non-coders opinions do get listened makes us feel like we can off-load. So, a lot of the criticisms are not necessarily about LO specifically but about IT in general. ROSt talks about management decisions and hints about those being imposed on a workforce because that's the easier way for most of us on the Users List to understand it. I suspect that most of us either do now or have at some point worked in traditional offices in mainstream management structures. In LO i imagine the equivalent is leadership rather than management. Inspiration and initiative rather than just following orders. Personal investment and interest in achieving goals. It is leading to some impressive results. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 18/10/12, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 18 October, 2012, 7:44 Hi Joel, I think nobody blames the dev team for not working enough; in contrast all appreciate the work done by the dev team, being it new features or bug fixes. For my understanding the concerns and opinions expressed here are more related to the ratio of devs being allocate to new features versus bug fixes. I think most of us also understand that first the number of devs is limited, and second the decision on how many devs on new features and how many on bug fixes is not an easy one. It is a management decisions, which can turn out right or wrong. And for management decisions one needs a lot of information. Speaking for myself I would regard these comments as additional information. In this sense, please regard the messages in this forum as additional information, which could.should help decision makers to make decisions. And should a decision turn out to be wrong, there is no problem in changing course. The worst thing a manager can do is, not to make a decision. Without
Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...
The idea expressed below is a very good one. I too would appreciate such a comparison table. Placed somewhere at the release notes. On 2012-10-19 04:18, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I know there are release notes and such, but it would be nice to see a side by side chart with the changes so you can compare the different versions/lines with each other better. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Suitability of Lo in Small organisations
It would be interesting to learn what version was used, which bugs were observed and if they were all reported an when. On 2012-10-19 10:39, Anthony Easthope wrote: Hi guys I was wondering what would perhaps be the best release of LO to recommend to a small charitable organisation. I had a problem with the latest release as it was quite buggy and the church athletics club I installed it for was not to happy when they found the bugs interrupted their workflow, So what is the most stable release? -- Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] ... not working ...
Hi Joel, I think nobody blames the dev team for not working enough; in contrast all appreciate the work done by the dev team, being it new features or bug fixes. For my understanding the concerns and opinions expressed here are more related to the ratio of devs being allocate to new features versus bug fixes. I think most of us also understand that first the number of devs is limited, and second the decision on how many devs on new features and how many on bug fixes is not an easy one. It is a management decisions, which can turn out right or wrong. And for management decisions one needs a lot of information. Speaking for myself I would regard these comments as additional information. In this sense, please regard the messages in this forum as additional information, which could.should help decision makers to make decisions. And should a decision turn out to be wrong, there is no problem in changing course. The worst thing a manager can do is, not to make a decision. Without decision there is no change to the situation and thus no chance for improvement. Let me thank here again all devs doing great jobs in developing and improving LO. ROSt Maybe I take C++ classes when I retire LO would be worth to do. On 18.10.2012 14:36, Joel Madero wrote: Let alone regressions which are just accepted as a part of software development. Ultimately, mistakes happen, and when a software code base has been transferred left and right and had a ton of people randomly working on it (which is exactly what happens with open source software), a lot of the job of a developer coming onto the project is just playing catch up and guessing and what a previous developer was attempting to do. Again, I highly suggest taking a few C++ classes and then it'll become apparent that the idea that we should stop everything and get every single bug squashed (5,000), is not a realistic stance. We should and we are (I guarantee this) doing everything in our power to prioritize bugs and take care of those bugs that are a) most annoying b) affecting the most users c) resulting in data loss We are a young project and this is a goal that has been set. Being young, this is a goal, not a fact. If you're interested in seeing how much work is done on a daily basis, just follow gerrit (our code tracker), or sit in IRC and look at the incredibly brilliant conversations that happen to find solutions to many of the problems that are being reported. Just to give another point, we are averaging more than 5 new reports PER DAY. Our QA team is a group of volunteers no more than 7 or 8 strong. Each of these bugs has to go through a long process just to verify, ensure that it's not a duplicate, communicate with the user who reported it, and then priortize it. That's JUST getting the bug confirmed, then it gets put into the stack where a very small group of dedicated developers tackle them, one by one. A single bug can take a week + to tackle (that's 40+ hours). Let's say the average bug takes 10 hours (a massive understatement), that's 50,000 hours worth of work to tackle the 5,000 or so confirmed bugs. Seeing these off hand remarks about how we should develop the product is disheartening. I wish that more people would take a class at their local community college, or take a free online course, and start to put their thoughts to work on our code. Regards, Joel On 10/17/2012 10:23 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 10/18/2012 01:08 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On 10/17/2012 06:29 PM, anne-ology wrote: ... Thanks :-) maybe now more will realize what we're saying ;-) This is simply unrealistic. For anyone who has any experience with programming this would be known. No offense but with a ratio of 100,000:1 or more users to developers, the idea that we would just squash all bugs and stop releasing new versions isn't realistic at all and thus why developers wouldn't respond to this recommendation. If you want to help I suggest taking some C++ classes and getting involved with the code. Most of us are volunteers who do this with our spare time, I hope you all keep that in mind Regards, Joel Another problem for all programs in wide release is wide hardware variability in the Windows and Linux worlds especially when compared to Macs. There could be a very odd hardware/driver interaction that was never discovered in alpha, beta, or release candidate previews with specific hardware combinations. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi wrote: BRAVO Anne-Ology!! Exactly that message - only in other words -- I have repeatedly tried to tell to the LibO-experts (devs) since January: they must take a brake in developing and take a certain version (e.g. 3.4.xx) and make every module of the suite - Base included - absolutely free of bugs and inconsistencies both in programming and the instructions and especially the LibO-Help. Every feature shall have a clear explanation
Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working?
Thanks for this explanations. I will now make the step to 3.5.7On 18.10.2012 18:41, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :)The upgrade from 3.5.x to 3.5.7 is extremely unlikely to cause problems.That 3rd digit is roughly like a Service Pack number, but divide it by 2 because MS only does 3 SPs whereas LO does 6 or 7.The 3.x.7 aims at avoiding introducing new features!New features are mostly in the 3.6.x or being lined-up for the 3.7.0.The 3.5.7 is likely to just have fixes for any lingering problems in the 3.5.6.Most of those fixes will be being merging into the 3.6.3 and .4.At least that's how i imagine it works.Certainly once that 3rd digit reaches .4 the branch seems a lotmore stable.Regards fromTom :) From:anne-ologylaginnis@gmail.comTo:Dr. R. O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comCc:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Thursday, 18 October 2012, 2:31Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Indexing for Search not working? and now we're 3:-)On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Dr. R. O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comwrote:On 17.10.2012 16:07, Pertti Rnnberg wrote:BRAVO Anne-Ology!!Exactly that message - only in other words -- I have repeatedly tried totell to the LibO-experts (devs) since January:they must take a brake in developing and take a certain version (e.g.3.4.xx) and make every module of the suite - Base included - absolutelyfree of bugs and inconsistencies both in programming and the instructionsand especially the LibO-Help.Every feature shall have a clear explanation and a detailed guidinghow-to in the LibO-Help -- easily understood by any average non-expertuser.I cannot agree more.I started with 3.5.4 a few month ago and saw some problems disappearing in3.5.5 and 3.5.6. Currently I am hesitating to upgrade to 3.5.7.I hope the dev-team listens to Pertti's words.--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export
What do I need to do, to get a pdf-file via file/export to pdf so I can add comments into the pdf-document? On 17.10.2012 17:55, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Thx rost52. I am familiar with the LO pdf export options. If you choose FileExport as PDF... you have all the options that you need to make a good commentable pdf. All the best O. www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 17-10-2012 02:03, rost52 escreveu: I think the pdf is really the best solution. However, your supervisor might want to put comments into the document while reading it. I tested a pdf-document created in writer (LO 3.5.6.2) yesterday but I could not add comments. When I wanted to make the Comment Mark UP toolbar in Adobe Reader (9.5.2) visible, I saw the information Only available when document rights are enabled. I assume that the rights must be given when you create the pdf-document. I know that LO you can create various types of pdf-documents but I don't know how to set the right for comments mark ups. Maybe someone else in this community can explain about such rights and there settings. On 17.10.2012 09:28, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi, Thank you all for the suggestion. I think that the PDF solution might be the best way, although I am not sure if it will be peacefully accepted by my supervisor. The worst case scenario will be me constructing a nem file with png images and keeping the original done with draw in a safe file to edit afterwards. We will see. Thx again, Orlando www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 16-10-2012 20:49, Steve Edmonds escreveu: Also, a pdf can be marked up/annotated if your supervisor only needs to comment and not actually edit. With a PDF you are also assured that your supervisor will see the exact layout that you see and not have the layout reflowed due to some slight font or other difference (as has happened with me). Steve On 2012-10-17 08:40, anne-ology wrote: sounds like the sensible way to go :-) On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) How about side-stepping the issue and use File - Export to Pdf Does the supervisor need to edit the document? If so it's a non-starter but generally Pdfs are viewed as being more professional. Everyone sees Pdfs the same, the layout is the same and everything. Errr, fonts sometimes not quite identical unless you print to file and then select Pdf instead of Ps. I think. Anyway Pdf generally gets around that sort of issue. Also LibreOffice has more options for exporting as Pdf, such as doing uncompressed ones for better quality. Word is really bad with graphics and doesn't have the range of Anchor to page and so on that LO has. Also it kinda falls over if it has too many graphics. Jpg can mess up images a little by making them be a bit swirly but usually it's tolerable. Png tends to be a better format. However by creating a Pdf you might even impress your supervisor. Regards from Tom :) From: Orlando Figueiredo of1...@gmail.com To: Libreoffice Global List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 15:19 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export Hello, I am writing a long document (my thesis) using LibreOffice and I have a lot of images (more than 50 on the 200 pages that the document) have). All images were made with LO Draw. I scanned portions of the documents that I am analysing and glue them with Draw, usually put a line framing the images our group of images when it is ready I select all the objects, group them and copy/past them to writer. Until here everything works smoothly. The problem comes when I try to export the document to a doc word (which I can not avoid has it has to be read by my supervisor and she does not use LO but M$ Office). All the export goes great except for the images that are not exported and do not appear in the *doc document. Can anyone help me with this? I understand that I can go to LO Draw, save the images as jpg and insert them in the Writer document, but if it is possible to solve this in another way that does not give me more stupid work to do I would appreciate. Thank you all. Orlando Figueiredo -- www.orlandofigueiredo.net -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Conference opens in Berlin
This is indeed great news. I especially happy to see the strong German government involvement with 2 ministries. This is great new to promote LO in public organizations and gave me an idea for promotion. I will do my best On 17.10.2012 19:30, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) WH! Superb!! Great news and an excellent announcement! I usually find some minor point to criticise and sometimes worry that detracts from the main messages but this time there was not a single petty thing wrong i could find anywhere. Really great news! 60 million! Over 100 languages! Congrats and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 8:43 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Conference opens in Berlin LibreOffice Conference, Berlin, October 17, 2012 - Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board of The Document Foundation, has officially opened the 2nd LibreOffice Conference (http://conference.libreoffice.org) addressing the authorities and the community members gathered in the capital city of Germany from the five continents. As of today, LibreOffice is being used by close to 60 million people. It is the standard free office suite on all major platforms, available in over 100 languages. Large cities and organizations are deploying it very successfully, more and more schools and universities are rolling it out, and there's not a single month where it is not covered by major media around the globe – because we always have good news to share. The Document Foundation has become a member of leading organizations for free software and open standards, and at the very same time, is widely seen as a the leader in its area, built on strong reputation and credibility. Last but not least, the ecosystem is growing rapidly, as more and more enterprises discover the business benefit of truly free software. We are now a family of thousands of contributors around the globe. I not only have colleagues all over the world, but more important, true friends, and I am honoured to be part of a large family. Everyone with their very own story, their very own background, and their very own skills. Different ages, cultures and languages, all united by one goal: providing the best free office suite ever, and giving power to those who contribute by passion. By living our values day by day, we make possible what we never dared to dream of two years ago. LibreOffice Conference 2012 is hosted by the Federal Ministry of the Interior (http://www.bmi.bund.de) and the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology (http://www.bmwi.de) he Federal Republic of Germany, and Freies Office Deutschland e.V. The event is sponsored by Canonical (http://www.canonical.com), Google (http://www.google.com), SerNet (http://www.sernet.de), bitbone (http://www.bitbone.de), Lanedo (http://www.lanedo.com), Red Hat (http://www.redhat.com) and Univention (http://www.univention.de). The main conference sessions will be broadcast online, while all sessions will be recorded and made available on the conference website. To access both real time and recorded video, the infrastructure team has created a single webpage at http://conference.libreoffice.org/streams. LibreOffice 3.6.2 is available for immediate download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. When downloading the software, you might consider about donating some money to The Document Foundation for the development of LibreOffice and the growth of the community, by accessing our donation page at http://donate.libreoffice.org. About The Document Foundation (TDF) The Document Foundation is an open, independent, self-governing, meritocratic organization, which builds on ten years of dedicated work by the OpenOffice.org Community. TDF was created in the belief that the culture born of an independent foundation brings out the best in corporate and volunteer contributors, and will deliver the best free office suite. TDF is open to any individual who agrees with its core values and contributes to its activities, and warmly welcomes corporate participation, e.g. by sponsoring individuals to work as equals alongside other contributors in the community. As of September 30, 2012, TDF has over 150 members and over 3.000 volunteers and contributors worldwide. -- Italo Vignoli - Director phone +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Conference opens in Berlin
This is indeed great news. I am especially happy to see the strong German government involvement with 2 ministries. This is great new to promote LO in public organizations and gave me an idea for promotion. I will do my best On 17.10.2012 19:30, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) WH! Superb!! Great news and an excellent announcement! I usually find some minor point to criticise and sometimes worry that detracts from the main messages but this time there was not a single petty thing wrong i could find anywhere. Really great news! 60 million! Over 100 languages! Congrats and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 8:43 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice Conference opens in Berlin LibreOffice Conference, Berlin, October 17, 2012 - Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board of The Document Foundation, has officially opened the 2nd LibreOffice Conference (http://conference.libreoffice.org) addressing the authorities and the community members gathered in the capital city of Germany from the five continents. As of today, LibreOffice is being used by close to 60 million people. It is the standard free office suite on all major platforms, available in over 100 languages. Large cities and organizations are deploying it very successfully, more and more schools and universities are rolling it out, and there's not a single month where it is not covered by major media around the globe – because we always have good news to share. The Document Foundation has become a member of leading organizations for free software and open standards, and at the very same time, is widely seen as a the leader in its area, built on strong reputation and credibility. Last but not least, the ecosystem is growing rapidly, as more and more enterprises discover the business benefit of truly free software. We are now a family of thousands of contributors around the globe. I not only have colleagues all over the world, but more important, true friends, and I am honoured to be part of a large family. Everyone with their very own story, their very own background, and their very own skills. Different ages, cultures and languages, all united by one goal: providing the best free office suite ever, and giving power to those who contribute by passion. By living our values day by day, we make possible what we never dared to dream of two years ago. LibreOffice Conference 2012 is hosted by the Federal Ministry of the Interior (http://www.bmi.bund.de) and the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology (http://www.bmwi.de) he Federal Republic of Germany, and Freies Office Deutschland e.V. The event is sponsored by Canonical (http://www.canonical.com), Google (http://www.google.com), SerNet (http://www.sernet.de), bitbone (http://www.bitbone.de), Lanedo (http://www.lanedo.com), Red Hat (http://www.redhat.com) and Univention (http://www.univention.de). The main conference sessions will be broadcast online, while all sessions will be recorded and made available on the conference website. To access both real time and recorded video, the infrastructure team has created a single webpage at http://conference.libreoffice.org/streams. LibreOffice 3.6.2 is available for immediate download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. When downloading the software, you might consider about donating some money to The Document Foundation for the development of LibreOffice and the growth of the community, by accessing our donation page at http://donate.libreoffice.org. About The Document Foundation (TDF) The Document Foundation is an open, independent, self-governing, meritocratic organization, which builds on ten years of dedicated work by the OpenOffice.org Community. TDF was created in the belief that the culture born of an independent foundation brings out the best in corporate and volunteer contributors, and will deliver the best free office suite. TDF is open to any individual who agrees with its core values and contributes to its activities, and warmly welcomes corporate participation, e.g. by sponsoring individuals to work as equals alongside other contributors in the community. As of September 30, 2012, TDF has over 150 members and over 3.000 volunteers and contributors worldwide. -- Italo Vignoli - Director phone +39.348.5653829 - skype italovignoli email italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export
Thanks for your hint. That I don't find anything like Annotate pdf is frustrating. I copy 2 screen shot of the window that opens under File/Export to pdf in my dropbox. Could you please have a look at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47733131/pdf_GeneralTab.gif https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47733131/pdf_UserInterface.gif and tell which checkbox you meant or if there is not such a checkbox at all. On 17.10.2012 18:15, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi, When you choose File Export as pdf... a new window appears and on the right there is one chceckbox that says Annotated pdf. Choose it. I am not sure about the english name of that checkbos as I am using LO in Portuguese. All the best. O. www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 17-10-2012 10:05, rost52 escreveu: What do I need to do, to get a pdf-file via file/export to pdf so I can add comments into the pdf-document? On 17.10.2012 17:55, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Thx rost52. I am familiar with the LO pdf export options. If you choose FileExport as PDF... you have all the options that you need to make a good commentable pdf. All the best O. www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 17-10-2012 02:03, rost52 escreveu: I think the pdf is really the best solution. However, your supervisor might want to put comments into the document while reading it. I tested a pdf-document created in writer (LO 3.5.6.2) yesterday but I could not add comments. When I wanted to make the Comment Mark UP toolbar in Adobe Reader (9.5.2) visible, I saw the information Only available when document rights are enabled. I assume that the rights must be given when you create the pdf-document. I know that LO you can create various types of pdf-documents but I don't know how to set the right for comments mark ups. Maybe someone else in this community can explain about such rights and there settings. On 17.10.2012 09:28, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi, Thank you all for the suggestion. I think that the PDF solution might be the best way, although I am not sure if it will be peacefully accepted by my supervisor. The worst case scenario will be me constructing a nem file with png images and keeping the original done with draw in a safe file to edit afterwards. We will see. Thx again, Orlando www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 16-10-2012 20:49, Steve Edmonds escreveu: Also, a pdf can be marked up/annotated if your supervisor only needs to comment and not actually edit. With a PDF you are also assured that your supervisor will see the exact layout that you see and not have the layout reflowed due to some slight font or other difference (as has happened with me). Steve On 2012-10-17 08:40, anne-ology wrote: sounds like the sensible way to go :-) On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) How about side-stepping the issue and use File - Export to Pdf Does the supervisor need to edit the document? If so it's a non-starter but generally Pdfs are viewed as being more professional. Everyone sees Pdfs the same, the layout is the same and everything. Errr, fonts sometimes not quite identical unless you print to file and then select Pdf instead of Ps. I think. Anyway Pdf generally gets around that sort of issue. Also LibreOffice has more options for exporting as Pdf, such as doing uncompressed ones for better quality. Word is really bad with graphics and doesn't have the range of Anchor to page and so on that LO has. Also it kinda falls over if it has too many graphics. Jpg can mess up images a little by making them be a bit swirly but usually it's tolerable. Png tends to be a better format. However by creating a Pdf you might even impress your supervisor. Regards from Tom :) From: Orlando Figueiredo of1...@gmail.com To: Libreoffice Global List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 15:19 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export Hello, I am writing a long document (my thesis) using LibreOffice and I have a lot of images (more than 50 on the 200 pages that the document) have). All images were made with LO Draw. I scanned portions of the documents that I am analysing and glue them with Draw, usually put a line framing the images our group of images when it is ready I select all the objects, group them and copy/past them to writer. Until here everything works smoothly. The problem comes when I try to export the document to a doc word (which I can not avoid has it has to be read by my supervisor and she does not use LO but M$ Office). All the export goes great except for the images that are not exported and do not appear in the *doc document. Can anyone help me with this? I understand that I can go to LO Draw, save the images as jpg and insert them in the Writer document, but if it is possible to solve this in another way that does not give me more stupid work to do I would appreciate
Re: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export
I think the pdf is really the best solution. However, your supervisor might want to put comments into the document while reading it. I tested a pdf-document created in writer (LO 3.5.6.2) yesterday but I could not add comments. When I wanted to make the Comment Mark UP toolbar in Adobe Reader (9.5.2) visible, I saw the information Only available when document rights are enabled. I assume that the rights must be given when you create the pdf-document. I know that LO you can create various types of pdf-documents but I don't know how to set the right for comments mark ups. Maybe someone else in this community can explain about such rights and there settings. On 17.10.2012 09:28, Orlando Figueiredo wrote: Hi, Thank you all for the suggestion. I think that the PDF solution might be the best way, although I am not sure if it will be peacefully accepted by my supervisor. The worst case scenario will be me constructing a nem file with png images and keeping the original done with draw in a safe file to edit afterwards. We will see. Thx again, Orlando www.orlandofigueiredo.net LinkedIn/facebook/skype/twitter: of1967 Em 16-10-2012 20:49, Steve Edmonds escreveu: Also, a pdf can be marked up/annotated if your supervisor only needs to comment and not actually edit. With a PDF you are also assured that your supervisor will see the exact layout that you see and not have the layout reflowed due to some slight font or other difference (as has happened with me). Steve On 2012-10-17 08:40, anne-ology wrote: sounds like the sensible way to go :-) On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Hi :) How about side-stepping the issue and use File - Export to Pdf Does the supervisor need to edit the document? If so it's a non-starter but generally Pdfs are viewed as being more professional. Everyone sees Pdfs the same, the layout is the same and everything. Errr, fonts sometimes not quite identical unless you print to file and then select Pdf instead of Ps. I think. Anyway Pdf generally gets around that sort of issue. Also LibreOffice has more options for exporting as Pdf, such as doing uncompressed ones for better quality. Word is really bad with graphics and doesn't have the range of Anchor to page and so on that LO has. Also it kinda falls over if it has too many graphics. Jpg can mess up images a little by making them be a bit swirly but usually it's tolerable. Png tends to be a better format. However by creating a Pdf you might even impress your supervisor. Regards from Tom :) From: Orlando Figueiredo of1...@gmail.com To: Libreoffice Global List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 15:19 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Images and *doc export Hello, I am writing a long document (my thesis) using LibreOffice and I have a lot of images (more than 50 on the 200 pages that the document) have). All images were made with LO Draw. I scanned portions of the documents that I am analysing and glue them with Draw, usually put a line framing the images our group of images when it is ready I select all the objects, group them and copy/past them to writer. Until here everything works smoothly. The problem comes when I try to export the document to a doc word (which I can not avoid has it has to be read by my supervisor and she does not use LO but M$ Office). All the export goes great except for the images that are not exported and do not appear in the *doc document. Can anyone help me with this? I understand that I can go to LO Draw, save the images as jpg and insert them in the Writer document, but if it is possible to solve this in another way that does not give me more stupid work to do I would appreciate. Thank you all. Orlando Figueiredo -- www.orlandofigueiredo.net -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for FB passwords is illegal. On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote: Anyone asking for my Facebook password in a job interview is out of luck; I do not know it because I use a password manager and each password I use is generated per account -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
Dennis, When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again how some PW removing tools, which offer a demo with opening the file or showing the PW removed, can claim that the file could be open within a few seconds to a minute? On 16.10.2012 23:34, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It is important to separate the use of passwords to set protections from use of a password to encrypt the document. Only Save with Password provides cryptographic security of the document. The Save with Password encryption is difficult to attack. The password is usually the weakest point and the password may fall to a variety of attacks that use pre-computed dictionaries of SHA1 digests and other brute-force techniques. It is also possible that an attack may break the encryption without discovering the password itself. All of these attacks are believed to required great effort. In general, one should expect that a password used in Save with Password is not discoverable unless it is carelessly chosen or heavily reused. The harder the password is to attack, the harder it is to recover, of course. In contrast, all of the protection settings are insecure. The protections are trivial to remove. It can be done by any knowledgeable user with a Zip utility and an XML editor. It is not necessary to know the password to remove the protection. However, all passwords used in making protection settings should be considered compromised. That is because the document stores an SHA1 or other unsalted hash in plain view in the document. These hashes are cracked with ease using conventional systems. A password used to set a protection should not be used for any more-private purpose. In particular, if the same passwords are used for protections on unencrypted documents and for saving with password (encryption), the encryption can be broken directly using the SHA1 digest from the protection setting. Protection settings are on spreadsheet fields and sheets. There are protection settings on text as well. The protection against altering change-tracking and the protection for keeping a document read-only are all of this kind. The protection is useful for avoiding mistaken alterations. It is easy for all of these protections to be removed, the document altered, and the protections restored with the very same unlocking password without ever having to know the password. A digital signature can prevent the document from undetected alterations, but that doesn't work for turnaround documents where some alterations are meant to be allowed. There is more explanation of the use and risk of protections, and their removal, here: https://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/9-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html A proposal for more-reliable security of protection passwords (but not the protections themselves) is before the OASIS ODF TC: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46220. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf [mailto:reinh...@stapf-online.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 06:30 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? you are perfectly right about this!!! On 16.10.2012 22:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much better off not forgetting your password. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading
Now I know what you meant. This indeed works to delete the header. In my previous test I clicked into the header text which was obviously wrong. On 15.10.2012 12:30, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. That has changed. There is a blue line comes and goes as the mouse goes over the header, with a blue tab. If I click this tab I get the option to remove. Steve On 2012-10-15 16:26, rost52 wrote: Steve, Thanks for pointing this out. I immediately tested also on the header (at the top of each page to be precise) and there too I could not apply Tink's suggestion. Let's see what will come later the day. On 15.10.2012 11:36, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I think there may be a crossed wire between header (at the top of the page) and heading (at the top of a paragraph). Steve On 2012-10-15 15:14, rost52 wrote: Tink, thanks for the hint but it doesn't work. I clicked in the header line. Right click menu opens but doesn't show a menu item: Remove (or similar) Is there a basic setting needed? Tom, could you successfully apply this method? On 15.10.2012 03:20, Tinkerer wrote: Put the cursor in the Header then right click, from the menu, choose, Remove Header. You then have a choice, Delete header, Delete Header and Text. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-to-delete-an-entire-heading-tp4013210p4013288.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading
Good to know that you also could not delete a heading with all stuff below in one shot .This leaves the conclusion that this topic should be put forward as an enhancement request. The request should be the procedure Tink mentioned earlier and/or deleting the heading incl all things below in the navigator.Shift-click just selects between the cursor and the shift-click point. A pity but a kind of a temporal solution for the time being. Thanks for this hint.How to place an enhancement request?On 15.10.2012 21:34, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :)I couldn't get this to work either way around either (ie not with headings (although mine are probably stuffed-up somehow) and not with the header (which i know i stuff-up).I think i would have to read up documentation about ithttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/PublicationsIt looks like something that would be hugely useful if you already knew how to use it but i don't so i would stick with theShiftclickmethod that works in almost all other apps even non-LO ones.Regards fromTom :) From:rost52bugquestcon...@online.deto:Steve Edmondssteve.edmonds@ptglobal.comCc:users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Monday, 15 October 2012, 4:26Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading Steve, Thanks for pointing this out. I immediately tested also on the header (at the top of each page to be precise) and there too I could not apply Tink's suggestion.Let's see what will come later the day.On 15.10.2012 11:36, Steve Edmonds wrote:Hi.I think there may be a crossed wire between header (at the top of the page) and heading (at the top of a paragraph).SteveOn 2012-10-15 15:14, rost52 wrote:Tink, thanks for the hint but it doesn't work.I clicked in the header line.Right click menu opens but doesn't show a menu item: Remove (or similar)Is there a basic setting needed?Tom, could you successfully apply this method?On 15.10.2012 03:20, Tinkerer wrote:Put the cursor in the Header then right click, from the menu, choose, RemoveHeader.You then have a choice, Delete header, Delete Header and Text.Tink.-- View this message in context:http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-to-delete-an-entire-heading-tp4013210p4013288.htmlSent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] how to crack a PW in LO?
LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as. Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files can be cracked? Can the MS related PW remover be used for LO as well? Thanks in advance for comments. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading
Hi Tink, as Steve pointed out there was a misunderstanding. I was talking about heading in the sense of 1. topic a 1.1 topic b 1.2 topic c I did not mean the header of the page. But thanks for your attempt. I will make a bug/enhancement report an propose the method you mentioned. On 16.10.2012 04:31, Tinkerer wrote: Alternatively. try putting the cursor inside the blue drop down which describes the Header style. I have a Mac system 10.8.2 Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-to-delete-an-entire-heading-tp4013210p4013605.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Ambiguous Calc cell status show
Viral, I can't comment on your request with the cursor but got an idea concerning typing numbers displayed in a png-file into calc. Did you consider already using an OCR SW to transfer your numbers into a copy-enabled data form? On 14.10.2012 15:45, Viral Orpe wrote: Hi :) I could not find a better line for SUBJECT, sorry! Background: I am copying a few numbers from a website generated .png in to Calc. These numbers are neither download_able nor copy-paste_able. They have to be manually seen in web browser and typed in Calc. I typically tile the browser and Calc windows - manually, yet to find a tile windows option, (but that is not my query). I switch between the browser and Calc for every new set of data - say every 2 minutes. When I am inside the browser window, filling forms to request data or adjusting the output so all numbers are seen together, the Calc window is obviously deselected. However, the Calc cell I was last present in does NOT show any change in appearance. It is showing that it is the selected cell but it is ignorant about whether the application (Calc) itself is selected or not. Problem: When I am done adjusting with browser window, I make a mental note of the number to be transferred next. The browser window is still the selected window. I look at the Calc window for putting in numbers. I happen to see the cell (and not the window), and just start typing which obviously goes somewhere in dump - the browser window doesn't take it and Calc window is not looking at it since it is not selected! I have been doing this for a fairly looong time and this typing mistake is new to me. On some thought I came to this conclusion that these mistakes happen/ have increased because the cell keeps on the same look of being selected or ready to accept data. And I am sort of getting cheated every time (almost)! This is a minor irritant, I agree. Soon enough thanks to Gimp, LO draw, or Calc charts itself, I would get rid of this inefficient, tedious 16th century procedure. In the meanwhile, I am trying to pick-up Alt-Tab habit. In any case: Que. Shouldn't along with the Calc application window, the Calc cell somehow *show* that it is not active Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: Rolf Lochbühler rolf.lochbueh...@yahoo.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] function concatenate Not sure if there's a way to do that with functions. How about this Basic macro? ~ Option Explicit Public Function CONCAT( ByRef rng As Variant ) As String Dim i, k As Long CONCAT = For i = 1 To UBound( rng(), 1 ) For k = 1 To UBound( rng(), 2 ) CONCAT = CONCAT rng( i, k ) Next k Next i End Function ~ Call it - with a column type argument like “= CONCAT(a1:a10)” or - with a row type argument like “= CONCAT(a1:j1)” or - with an array type argument like “= CONCAT(a1:b5)” -rl Am 2012-10-11 um 22:49 schrieb yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it: is there any way to have concatenate function works like sum?? they are the same function but the first with words the second with numbers for example =SUM(a1:a10) sum all the numbers from a1 to a10 =CONCATENATE(a1:a10) should put one after the other the words from a1 to a10 but it doesn't works how can I have a such behaviour??? of course not =CONCATENATE(a1;a2;a3;a4;a5;a6) :-) thnx, :-) pier :-) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] how to delete an entire heading
I am using writer and need to revise a long document. There are longer text portions under one heading often with sub-headings. Is there way to delete an entire heading (heading line, heading number and all text and subheadings below) without having to select all across a few pages and then click delete? Thanks in advance for a hint LO 3.5.6.2 / XP SP3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Auto and Manual Spell do not work x
On 15.10.2012 08:09, anne-ology wrote: BUT I was turned off by his foul language; Well observed and expressed. I am sometimes wondering why people do not communicate about facts with words not causing bad feelings at others. Thus I can understand anne-ology's words if he asks again - and nicely - I'll respond to him. A nice for all. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading
Tink, thanks for the hint but it doesn't work. I clicked in the header line. Right click menu opens but doesn't show a menu item: Remove (or similar) Is there a basic setting needed? Tom, could you successfully apply this method? On 15.10.2012 03:20, Tinkerer wrote: Put the cursor in the Header then right click, from the menu, choose, Remove Header. You then have a choice, Delete header, Delete Header and Text. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-to-delete-an-entire-heading-tp4013210p4013288.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to delete an entire heading
Steve, Thanks for pointing this out. I immediately tested also on the header (at the top of each page to be precise) and there too I could not apply Tink's suggestion. Let's see what will come later the day. On 15.10.2012 11:36, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. I think there may be a crossed wire between header (at the top of the page) and heading (at the top of a paragraph). Steve On 2012-10-15 15:14, rost52 wrote: Tink, thanks for the hint but it doesn't work. I clicked in the header line. Right click menu opens but doesn't show a menu item: Remove (or similar) Is there a basic setting needed? Tom, could you successfully apply this method? On 15.10.2012 03:20, Tinkerer wrote: Put the cursor in the Header then right click, from the menu, choose, Remove Header. You then have a choice, Delete header, Delete Header and Text. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/how-to-delete-an-entire-heading-tp4013210p4013288.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Auto and Manual Spell do not work . .
My spell checker in 3.5.4 did work either; actually worse than yours. Upgrading to 3.5.6.2 solved the problem. On 13.10.2012 23:03, Dan Hall wrote: I have LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 on Windows 7 and in Writer the spell check does not work for spelling errors... it does however correct beginning of sentence capitalization (automatically) and manual spell check complains of extra spaces when they exist. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features
' features To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 10 October, 2012, 17:58 Hi :) I was able to overlap two charts in gimp as well as calc. Hurrraa :) * Adjusted axis on both charts - major, minor ticks to match each other. * Scales (rather everything) Automatic is unmarked - in case we need to scale data ranges later. * Made the top one completely transparent before moving on top of first. In gimp one can be sure that they don't slide - ever. Not sure if there is a facility for that in calc - don't really expect. Just pinging in case anyone has any ideas. Objects once placed may move - e.g. one justified left other to center etc. - on their own with some remote change elsewhere in the sheet. The charts are now 100 times more helpful. No kidding! Thanks a lot to everybody who chipped in with their suggestions. Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: Viral Orpe viral.o...@yahoo.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features Hi :) I have added the Yahoo finance image illustrating the overlap of the basic candlestick chart and line chart and bar chart to my facebook page. Album: LibreCALC_Query File: z.png Hope that clarifies. Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: Viral Orpe viral.o...@yahoo.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features Hi rost52 :) Yes, That's right. That is the one I am using. Problem is: I want to add some indicators on it too. Like say the average of the past 3 months - which will be a line chart. I have uploaded two screenshots (.png) of the file I am using on my facebook page. They are made public under the album Libre_CALC_Query I don't use fb often so if you find any trouble downloading them please do not fight with FB. Just let me know. In all probability it will be some mistake from my side. I might make it three screen-shots with one example from yahoo finance in a couple of hours. Got to move out of this chair now!!!:) Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features Candlestick charts The wikipedia link was helpful. I think that what you want to use is called in Calc chart type stock. There are 4 different sub type shown. The second from left looks very much like the chart in the wiki link. On 10.10.2012 21:10, Viral Orpe wrote: Hi :) Thanks for all the responses I have tried to respond collectively here. /* */ Miguel Ángel: About overlapping several charts --- I got similar idea but not overlapping in calc itself but using gimp. I came across gimp some time last week and it had some concept like layers. I have added a transparent layer and copied two charts - with same axis scales, ranges - on each layer. I am not very conversant with gimp though so right now I can only jump from one layer to another and see two charts one-by-one. My charts themselves have opaque background so transparency of layers is not helping. Still a work in progress, I must say. Will keep you posted once I get what I need - first in gimp and then in calc. Thanks a lot for your inputs. Dan: === About using Databases: - Thanks Dan, you are absolutely
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features
Candlestick charts The wikipedia link was helpful. I think that what you want to use is called in Calc chart type stock. There are 4 different sub type shown. The second from left looks very much like the chart in the wiki link. On 10.10.2012 21:10, Viral Orpe wrote: Hi :) Thanks for all the responses I have tried to respond collectively here. /* */ Miguel Ángel: About overlapping several charts --- I got similar idea but not overlapping in calc itself but using gimp. I came across gimp some time last week and it had some concept like layers. I have added a transparent layer and copied two charts - with same axis scales, ranges - on each layer. I am not very conversant with gimp though so right now I can only jump from one layer to another and see two charts one-by-one. My charts themselves have opaque background so transparency of layers is not helping. Still a work in progress, I must say. Will keep you posted once I get what I need - first in gimp and then in calc. Thanks a lot for your inputs. Dan: === About using Databases: - Thanks Dan, you are absolutely right about wondering why not databases?! I was thinking the best way to do what I do is using LAMP - particularly since I have to ultimately work on data that is 245 days/year, 12 years till now, 1000+ entries everyday, each entry has say 8-10 sub-entries and at least two such sets of data! (Equity, derivatives, Commodity) (365 - 52x2weekends - 16 holidays = 245 days/year!) But this is my first week with Linux! I can't possibly get into MySQL and hope to get it rightly done without crashing my system a thousand times. Right now, I have this one machine working. I hope to resurrect an old system and do all the LAMP/ sys-admin type of work (tweaking!) on it before moving the whole thing to a powerful machine. The calc charting is a short term solution before I get (and I hope I get it ultimately) the whole LAMP thing going. (I had been using MS XP and Excel for couple of years for this purpose, I can't believe my own madness/inertia/procrastination!) In fact I have noted your suggestion of linking the database files to calc and then making charts from it. That way I can use a database even before I get in to the A P of LAMP. Dan, rost52, Tom: = About Candlestick charts: Candlestick charting is a Japanese charting technique for stocks, commodities, currencies. One candlestick represents the Open-High-Low-Close values for a given interval. The interval can be anything from minutes to years but is constant for a chart. It is an excellent visual representation that is extremely quick to grasp. Inferences are made based on a single candle or multiple candles seen together. Further info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlestick_chart Check the various candlestick patterns and their interpretations. *** The Japanese have shown great imagination in naming the patterns! Just to check how a candle stick chart looks, please go to yahoo finance and look for a technical analysis/ charting link (mostly you can just click any chart you see: NASDAQ/ DAX etc). Choose Basic Tech Analysis under charts. Set the range to 6 months and select type as candle. I will try to find a way to get a real life example .ods or screen-shots on the net somewhere. Steve: The chartmaster software - was it open-source? May be I should search for similar charting software in open source domain. Unfortunately till now I have found myself to be we didn't start the fire types :P Someone, somewhere has always gone way ahead before me! In any case, if I find something open-source I can be sure of tweaking it (on my own machine) to my desire/ caliber/ patience! May be add a little but not reinvent! Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org; rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features Hi :) I assumed he meant a bar-graph but made it sound more interesting. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 10/10/12, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote: From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 10 October, 2012, 2:32 Could you possibly post somewhere an example of a candle stick
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features
Could you possibly post somewhere an example of a candle stick chart? On 2012-10-10 02:52, Viral Orpe wrote: Hi :) Thanks for your time and replies. I could stop fighting calc to show me the chart as a single worksheet! I was charting the stock market data (available in daily doses to be bunched neatly in weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly batches) in candlestick form. Both Excel and Calc do not allow any other lines on the candlestick charts (moving averages, e.g.). It robs the ease of analysis (and make me dependent on some websites that offer it - currently for free :) but I never liked the dependence) I read somewhere* what Shakespeare wrote of vaulting ambition :) Since, I have no spur to prick my intent, as of today I can't start vaulting onto tweaking CALC source code to add a new chart type. But, it would be fun and a taste + test of the Linux promise of free(dom)! Hope I reach the promised land one day. Any pointers are welcome. again, thanks for your time, regards, Viral Orpe p.s. *Vaulting Ambition :) http://www.shakespeare-online.com/plays/macbeth/soliloquies/blow.html (spur: I know just C, data structures, and presently am learning shell scripting. Nothing about Linux kernel/ internals and have never written software in a professional team) snip -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead
On 2012-10-09 18:50, Marcello Romani wrote: that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer for anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO Writer to convert doc into pdf appears to me like using a tractor to participate in a F1 race or using an F1 race car to plough a field. Why not installing a pdf-writer SW, there are even free-of-charge versions available. but having a pdf-writer incorporated is one of the nice features of LO. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] seperatiors between cross reference elements
Tom,Thanks for the link, but I could not find the drop-down feature
request (maybe I am an IY moron) but could you please publish/send
me a screen shot?On 2012-10-09 05:32, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)This link might helphttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_ReportOne of
the drop-downs in the bug-reporting thing has the
feature request optionThanks and regards fromTom :)
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4 October 2012, 11:40Subject:[libreoffice-users] seperatiors between cross
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When making a cross reference in a WRITER document I
typically use [heading number] [space] [headingtext]{heading
number] is called in LO number and I choose
always number (full context){heading text] is called LO
Reference.I am looking for a setting that the space (or another
character) is added automatically between[heading number] and
[heading text] . Any hint is
welcome. I am using LO 3.5.6.on XP.If such a possibility is not
given, where can send an
enhancement request to?Thanks in advance.ROSt--For unsubscribe
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fw: Help request on CALC charts' features
In general I am of the impression that Calc and Excel have some limitations when converting from one into the other. I recently also observered some problems with charts but had no time to write them down, thus I don't remember details sufficiently to list them here. Just don't be surprised about loss of functionality etc. I used LO 3.5.6.2 or the 3.4.5 release at that time on XP SP3. A chart as one sheet is, like Rolf mentioned, not a feature of Calc - that is a pitty. ROSt On 2012-10-07 14:54, Viral Orpe wrote: The following mail was sent about 10-days ago. I picked the address from the e-mails I receive from other list-members. Even I did not get it back through the list nor was it bounced from somewhere hence sending again. This is the last time. Sorry for the trouble. /* *** */ Hi, I am new to Open source *.* (OS, environment, office, Banshee, wvdial, the works) I recently moved my excel spread-sheets to calc. I am still going through files/features-check post the translation. Most of the data, formula, and formatting are okay, fonts are better. In the charts I observed: 1. The full worksheet as chart in excel are converted to embedded charts in those sheets (no full charts). 2. Legends are peculiar. They are named as column? and not any text string that I would like to give. Is this the way Libre Calc is implemented or I can get back to chart as worksheet in itself and legends of my liking without being restricted to the first column/ first row? Also, is the system info below sufficient for posting here or anything more is advised? Any pointers would be great help. Thanks, Viral Orpe -- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory: 4GB, DDR3 Operating System: Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice Version: LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] name of pdf export
When I export an LO file to pdf, I would like that the original file name is automatically transferred to become the pdf-file name. As I cannot find any information in the LO documentation I ask you to please give me a hint how this can be done. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] seperatiors between cross reference elements
When making a cross reference in a WRITER document I typically use [heading
number] [space] [heading
text]
{heading number] is called in LO number and I choose always number (full
context)
{heading text] is called LO Reference.
I am looking for a setting that the space (or another character) is added
automatically between
[heading number] and [heading text] . Any hint is welcome. I am using LO
3.5.6.on XP.
If such a possibility is not given, where can send an enhancement request to?
Thanks in advance.
ROSt
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead
On 2012-10-03 11:41, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote: I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97 (15-year-old software) could do, and do it just as well and just as easily. If LO could do THAT, it would eat Microsoft's lunch. Absolutely agree. Most of the functionality that MS has added to Office 2007/2010 has been geared towards the corporate collaborative user, which certainly in my experience (and I have to say my last corporate job was over ten years ago so the playing field may well have changed in this respect) wasn't a key factor in usage, and certainly has never been in the SOHO sector. I believe that Office 2013 is even more aimed at cloud and collaborative usage - although it's highly probable that I shan't ever find out! One of the problems that I've come across is that my daughter uses LO and sends as MS Office 97-2003 documents when emailing. It appears that her recipients get gobbledy-gook so I need to find out what's happening there because that shouldn't happen. IMHO LO is every bit as good as MS Office 97, but then that wasn't a particularly good iteration of MS Office! I think the aim should be to match Office 2003, which still seems to be the current standard by which Office suites are measured. (The very large international company my Wife works for are still on 2003..) Both comments (Tim, Gorden) are valuable. I switched to LO about 6 months ago and like it also I am missing (compared to MSO) a few features in IMPRESS badly I am not the expert to really compare LO features with MSO 97 and 2003. Which version ever is used to be the comparison standard is not that important to me. But what is IMHO important is that all MSO97 features in and all bugs out. But don't take out features which are beyond MSO97 only get the bugs out. LO must become a very solid bug free production tool. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems
Dan's statement is also a very good one. Another BINGO if you want so. However, an exchange of opinions should also be possible. Was the discussion on morons too long? Depends on the criteria applied... I personaly think that Wolfgang's word IT-illiterate morons were not meant to be taken literally. From my point of view the thread was an interesting exchange of thoughts. I will go back to my work and hopefully someone can support Dan with his effort to improve LO, this should be our main objective. ROSt On 2012-10-01 18:19, Dan Lewis wrote: Personally, this entire thread is a waste of time. Who cares who is a moron as far as IT is concerned? Why complain about anything unless you are going to do something about it? There is not a single person that has contributed to this thread that is too old to contribute to making LO better. Yes, LO needs to be made better and the documentation needs to be improved. But what are you doing about it? If you aren't doing anything to improve it, you are wasting your time typing words that serve no real purpose. I'm working to make the documentation better. What are you doing about it? Sorry, but no excuses are allowed in your answer. I don't use them so you can't either. Oh, using the phrase I can't usually is the equivalent to I won't and the latter may well be the real meaning. --Dan On 10/01/2012 11:50 AM, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello Pertti, I couldn't agree more with you! I used to work for Mother Blue for nearly 30 years, dealing with large customers as a systems engineer. Even then it occurred to me from time to time that we IT specialists thought that IT was the only worthwhile endeavour. But, clearly, the business of a steel firm is to produce steel, banks, well..., shipping companies and their managers worry about shipping, travel agencies about holiday makers, etc., etc., and not to be proficient in IT. IT is basically just a TOOL which they employ to get THEIR business done. Just because somebody doesn't know C++ or Java, he/she is by no means a moron. IBM had/has excellent products. Selling these to customers was never easy by any means - we were usually somewhat more costly. But, buying from the world standard was SAFE, and service was RELIABLE even on night shifts. IT managers of sizable companies need a LOT of courage and stamina to turn their back on the main stream. As an aside - I have been using Open Software for decades now and will continue to do so (Apache, MySQL, OO/LO, Squirrelmail, Courier,..., etc., etc.). I don't like monopolies! But then, I only look after a 50-piece brass band... (www.rainermusik.at) Regards from Salzburg H. S. On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:22:03 +0200, Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi wrote: Hello Joep, Thank you for your reply. I am happy to say I had the privilege to in business visit your very beautiful and interesting country - and especially Amsterdam - some times very, very many years ago. I am also retired since ten years back and used to work on manager level in some companies mostly in metal industry, planning and delivering plants. But not IT, I am an IT consumer since early 1980 - so you surely know that IT field from 'inside' better than me but I know quite well the decision making in my former environments. I have for years been very well aware of all what you say about MS's behavior and marketing policy - I agree with you completely and do dislike the situation as much as you. In many (most) companies/organizations (other than IT) the managers have quite little own knowledge in IT why they do not have many alternatives: they have to buy the IT from outside (more or less) experts or build up a IT-dept of their own. In both cases they have to rely on other people's knowhow and recommendations. And if all (95% ?) your important contacts, customers, officials, private, etc. use Windows, and all of your own staff know (only) Windows/MSO then the economic calculation says that you must talk the same language -- you can not afford anything else. I strongly disagree with you about Jay's and Wolfgang' s behavior - take a look at my parallel post MS problems some minutes earlier. If these managers concentrate on their own jobs - and buy the IT - it does not qualify them to be called IT-illiteral morons as Jay and Wolfgang did. In 30 years I have had no problems (!) with the Windows' programs (the cost are a relative matter), but from January this year when installing LibO I have had too much problems with Base (and Calc) - and according to this list there are a lot of others having real problems with LibO too. In my opinion there is only one way for LibO: to become in every way better than MSO especially for ordinary private users, user friendly, stable, reliable, free of bugs and problems. These will then make it easier for companies to convert to OpenSource/LibO. Best regards Pertti Rönnberg (Finland) The End! On 1.10.2012 13:51, Joep L. Blom wrote: On 01-10-12 11:57, Pertti
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products instead
May I suggest to discuss the Google calender issue in a different thread? On 2012-09-30 19:17, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2012-10-01 05:12, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 30/09/12 17:08, James Knott wrote: There's an exclamation mark in a yellow triangle on my Google calendar. When I move the mouse pointer over the calendar, I get a pop up The calendar Google is momentarily not available. That's exactly was happening to me with the Google Calendar add-in! I have Opensuse 12.2, Thunderbird 15.0, Lightning 1.7, Provider 0.16 and my Google calendars are working fine. Steve -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems
On 2012-09-30 21:31, Wolfgang Keller wrote: Just had a classic from my boss. *snip* He still says there is no problem with IE. The point is not that there are plenty of hopelessly IT-illiterate morons out there, the point is imho that it's exactly these IT-illiterate morons who decide about what those people who have to do the actual work have to work with. Sincerely, Wolfgang The statement above is a pretty good one. Bingo! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
