[libreoffice-users] Re: Drawing arrows in Writer.

2015-04-17 Thread william drescher

On 4/16/2015 11:57 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

@Henri,

The group selectors for Draw/Impress Lines and Arrows and Connectors are
not currently exposed to Writer.  If that piece gets done, then the choice
of exposing it on Writer's Drawing toolbar by default or hiding it is
negligible.

But take your point about exposing by default on the Drawing toolbar for
simplicity of use for those not comfortable with doing toolbar
customization.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Drawing arrows in Writer.

2015-04-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Henri, *

Comments on the BZ issue  tdf#90651
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90651  , 

The dialog frame that opens for Line objects remains the preferred way to
manipulate --all-- Line objects in Writer, but
 in addition to your suggestion of adding the group button for Lines and
Arrows, the group button for Connectors should also be made available in
Writer. 

That likely would be done on the the Drawing toolbar, which is exposed from
Standard toolbar with the Show Draw Functions button.  Only question is if 
these new buttons would be enabled by default on the Drawing
toolbar--probably should be.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Drawing arrows in Writer.

2015-04-16 Thread M Henri Day
2015-04-16 16:44 GMT+02:00 V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu:

 @Henri, *

 Comments on the BZ issue  tdf#90651
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90651  ,

 The dialog frame that opens for Line objects remains the preferred way to
 manipulate --all-- Line objects in Writer, but
  in addition to your suggestion of adding the group button for Lines and
 Arrows, the group button for Connectors should also be made available in
 Writer.

 That likely would be done on the the Drawing toolbar, which is exposed from
 Standard toolbar with the Show Draw Functions button.  Only question is
 if
 these new buttons would be enabled by default on the Drawing
 toolbar--probably should be.

 Stuart


​My suggestion, Stuart - I regret that I didn't make it explicit - would be
that the arrow tool be added to the draw function and *enabled by default*.
As Brian points out above, there are several ways to skin this particular
cat, but from my point of view, which is that of a person who helps
retirees with their computer problems and, among other things, attempts to
convince them to use LibreOffice rather than the dear - and unintuitive -
legacy office suite, an alternative which doesn't require too many steps is
preferable. My experience is that users of this type can accept clicking on
the  ​«Show draw functions» icon in the Writer toolbar to bring up the draw
functions toolbar and then click on the arrow icon there to create an arrow
in a Writer document, but were I to suggest following *all* the steps I
outline in the enhancement request or first creating an arrow in Draw or
Impress and then copying and pasting it into a Writer-document, their eyes,
I fear would begin to glaze, and they would inform me that the procedure
was too complicated for them

Henr
​i​

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Drawing arrows in Writer.

2015-04-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
@Henri,

The group selectors for Draw/Impress Lines and Arrows and Connectors are
not currently exposed to Writer.  If that piece gets done, then the choice
of exposing it on Writer's Drawing toolbar by default or hiding it is
negligible.

But take your point about exposing by default on the Drawing toolbar for
simplicity of use for those not comfortable with doing toolbar
customization.

Stuart






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