On 20-10-12 01:47, anne-ology wrote:
Yet an employer has the right to hire those employees he feels will
fit into his company, benefiting him, his company and its bottom line.
IF someone acts like a fool, as placing lewd photos of himself or
using abusive and/or blasphemous
Hi :)
It's easy to create an extremely secure system.
The problem is that people then want access to it. Immediately that creates a
weakness. Then they want it to be easy access and if they get that then there
is no security. After making a system weak they then complain about it being
In terms of password-based encryption, the vulnerability to direct attack on
the password has not changed measurably since ODF 1.0. However, the advances
in processor performance have made many more attacks feasible.
The move from Blowfish and 8-bit CFB (default) to (optional) AES-CBC has
Oh, why is (7) considered Good News, below?
Well, it takes 45*365+197 16,500 cooperating culprits to crack a 7-character
random password in 1 day.
If that seems too feasible (it might be), try a challenging length, like 16
characters. Just remember the Worse News, (8) in my previous message.
It is interesting how insecure password protection is, and how we forgo
security for convenience, I recently had to gain access to a Win7
machine with lost administrator PW. It was trivial but led me and a work
colleague to rainbow tables, GPU cracking and just how fast a PW can be
cracked.
For the sake of safety, hopefully these are merely fancy advertising
schemes ;-)
BUT judging by the number of hackers able to steal data in recent
years, these programs may be working ;-(
To be conned or not to be conned by these criminal types, seems to
boil down to using
Yet an employer has the right to hire those employees he feels will
fit into his company, benefiting him, his company and its bottom line.
IF someone acts like a fool, as placing lewd photos of himself or
using abusive and/or blasphemous language on line, then that employer
should
On 10/19/2012 07:32 PM, anne-ology wrote:
For the sake of safety, hopefully these are merely fancy advertising
schemes ;-)
BUT judging by the number of hackers able to steal data in recent
years, these programs may be working ;-(
To be conned or not to be conned by
just shows lack of common sense.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/19/2012 07:32 PM, anne-ology wrote:
For the sake of safety, hopefully these are merely fancy
advertising
schemes ;-)
BUT judging by the number of hackers
Googling on open office password crack turns up dozens of things.
Here's one that looks real, if outdated:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/20/openoffice_password_crack/
That's 2007; we can hope O-O have improved the system since then
Anyone know?
The best-known purveyors of commercial
On 17.10.2012 12:38, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/16/2012 09:12 PM, rost52 wrote:
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social
networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US
asking for FB passwords is illegal.
On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote:
I meant xls files in MS EXCEL 2003 when I wrote about the short times needed to open them. I
protected them against opening.
I never tested a LO file so far - hope I never have to!!!
Here are some links I checked, however I don't recall what was the result for each link. Most of the
links I
Hi :)
This is pitiful. OpenSource sometimes has a reputation of being where reformed
hackers go when they grow up or when they want more kudos. Maybe the devs list
might have ideas? It's just 1 password! It can't be this tough! Maybe that
reputation is just more FUD after all!
Maybe try
I wrote my own password cracker for OOo files, but as you found, they
run for a very long time.
I did it just to see how well it would, or would not work. Unless you
have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much
better off not forgetting your password.
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you are perfectly right about this!!!
On 16.10.2012 22:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much better off not
forgetting your password.
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On 10/16/2012 04:15 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
This is pitiful. OpenSource sometimes has a reputation of being where
reformed hackers go when they grow up or when they want more kudos. Maybe
the devs list might have ideas? It's just 1 password! It can't be this
tough! Maybe that
Hi Jay :)
That is an interesting idea - not to know your own password(s).
You definitely can't forget what you don't know.
Worth following that concept ..
One of my friends would set his sharable password to iwonttell (I won't
tell).
He then would keep fighting back and forth for sometime
It is important to separate the use of passwords to set
protections from use of a password to encrypt the document.
Only Save with Password provides cryptographic security
of the document.
The Save with Password encryption is difficult to attack.
The password is usually the weakest point
Hi :)
Brilliant!! Ahhh, just thought of a problem. Was it xls or xlsX? If it has
an X at the end then just rename the file to replace .xlsx with .zip and then
double-click on it.
Can the xml files be pulled into a new file without pulling the password along
at the same time?
Regards from
Some protections are preserved in conversions between Office binaries and
OpenOffice. But the protections in OOXML have digital hashes that are computed
differently than those in ODF. They are not inter-convertible.
Since the implementations tend to drop those protections in either
I don't understand the XML question.
In ODT and ODS, the protection keys are in the content.xml and settings.xml
files. You can just delete the settings.xml to get rid of those protections
(read-only and change-tracking). For the protection locks in the content.xml,
you need to edit the xml.
Hi :)
I think the intention at this point is just to get rid of the password
protection and open the file, or at least the data in the file. Protecting it
again is for another day!
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
To:
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social networks. The presenting US
lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for FB passwords is illegal.
On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote:
Anyone asking for my Facebook password in a job interview is
out of luck; I do
yes, it's due to the privacy laws.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social
networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for
FB passwords is illegal.
On
Dennis,
When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again how some PW removing tools,
which offer a demo with opening the file or showing the PW removed, can claim that the file could be
open within a few seconds to a minute?
On 16.10.2012 23:34, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
On 10/16/2012 09:12 PM, rost52 wrote:
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social
networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US
asking for FB passwords is illegal.
On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote:
Anyone asking for my Facebook password in
If you're talking about files with protections, minutes is on the long side.
It is trivial to remove protections.
If you're talking about Libre Office files created by Save As ... | Save with
Password options, I would like to know who is claiming they can do that in any
reasonable time.
On 10/16/2012 10:07 PM, rost52 wrote:
Dennis,
When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again
how some PW removing tools, which offer a demo with opening the file
or showing the PW removed, can claim that the file could be open
within a few seconds to a minute?
I
Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote:
LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as.
Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files
can be cracked? Can the
MS related PW remover be used for LO as well?
Thanks in advance for comments.
xls does not
On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote:
LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as.
Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files can
be cracked? Can the
MS related PW remover be used for LO as well?
Thanks in
Am 15.10.2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:
However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get forgotten
(not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.
There is no way to open encrypted ODF other than a brute force script
working through a list of possible passwords.
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Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote:
LO files can be protected with PWs when doing save as.
Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files
can be cracked? Can the
MS
Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :
[...]
However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get
forgotten (not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.
Buy a super-computer, launch a brute force algorithm and pray that the
password is a short word from the standard
On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :
[...]
However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get
forgotten (not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.
Buy a super-computer, launch a brute force algorithm and pray that
On 10/15/2012 12:00 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote:
On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :
[...]
However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get
forgotten (not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.
Buy a
Hi :)
I apply an algorithm to the name of whatever it is that i am doing and then
apply a series of standard characters at set locations. The set of characters
and their locations depends on which of 3 categories the thing fits into
1. Something i really don't want to have cracked, such as my
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ledger Consulting
t...@theledgerfirm.com wrote:
gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2
What?
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Le 15/10/2012 18:00, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :
On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit :
[...]
However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get
forgotten (not and MS file)?
Hints are welcome for the future.
Buy a
Hi :)
Cat on the keyboard? Keys in the pocket?
Regards from
Tom :)
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?
To: ville...@t-online.de,
Hi :)
The trick is to try to remember what you might have been thinking about at the
time. If that's even possible for anyone!
There is no password cracking functionality or Extension for LO it's just the
inept way MS fails to implement security. Just double-click on an xls or open
LO
On 10/15/2012 02:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Cat on the keyboard? Keys in the pocket?
Regards from
Tom :)
Your cats spell better than mine (LOL)
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On 16.10.2012 02:14, MR ZenWiz wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ledger Consulting
t...@theledgerfirm.com wrote:
gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2
What?
encrypted message - problem is that I cannot understand it.
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When my cat was alive, he use to lay on the keyboard and not move. He
wanted the attention I gave the computer, since he was not getting it.
I am not going to tell you how many time he messed thing up for me when
he did that. He use to lay down on, or sit on, the closed laptop just
to
On 16.10.2012 03:32, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
The trick is to try to remember what you might have been thinking about at the
time. If that's even possible for anyone!
There is no password cracking functionality or Extension for LO it's just the
inept way MS fails to implement security.
I used the following:
http://www.crackpdf.com/
but not the Pro version which allows to make brute force attack, but
then, they warn you that it will take _a_long_time_ !!!
To remove simple protections, it was really fast, but they unlock the
file without retrieving the password (or at least
On 16.10.2012 09:40, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote:
I used the following:
http://www.crackpdf.com/
but not the Pro version which allows to make brute force attack, but then, they warn you that it
will take _a_long_time_ !!!
To remove simple protections, it was really fast, but they unlock the file
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