Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
Hi :) Of course one problem with Symphony is that is is always based on a fairly old version of the code. Hopefully the AOO project will be able to incorporate all that into their latest version but even then their version of the code has had far less developers time spent on cleaning it up and adding functionality. The accessibility features that Symphony adds would be a real boon if LO could incorporate them but as it is it looks like people that need those accessibility features will have to settle for the older code underlaying it. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 28/8/12, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 28 August, 2012, 19:53 On 08/28/2012 11:58 AM, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... Lotus Symphony is a product of IBM. It's free, open source (I think) and, as I said, a close cousin to OO and LO. I haven't gone back to the site to see if it's available in forms other than MS Windows and RPM, but the RPM format is what I used to install it in PCLinuxOS. It's been a while since I got it, and I remember that it's just a tiny bit tricky to find and download what you need, but a few minutes patience will get it for you. http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home Symphony contains the usual office paraphernalia--Document, Presentation, and Spreadsheet. It's user-friendly, unlike its cousins, with graphic icons for all the usual editing functions--line spacing, fonts, type size, justification, etc. As I mentioned, it's /finished/. Not a work in progress. But be warned: There are a couple of glitches you will find, and if they are too onerous, you will give up on it. I don't know if the glitches will be fixed, but I live with them. Mainly, the vertical bar disappears. YMMV. . . . --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 08/27/2012 02:39 AM, zig wrote: I have a text file in format .rtf with a simple table. The file appears the same in open office and word2003. But in libre office it is correct only up to the beginning of the table, later on all the text is presented in the last (very long!) column and it is unusable. Is this a bug? Do I have some method to avoid the problem? Thanks in advance paolo maurenzig LibreOffice 3.4.5 OOO340m1 (Build:502) RTFs are not the perfect solution the open-sourcers would like to think. I edit a small newsletter, and I used to get copy from the publisher in rtf format. Frequently the copy would spill over the right-hand side of the page and be truncated. This would happen in OO, LO, often Symphony, sometimes even WordPerfect (on Windows). If WP couldn't read it, it was useless, but the diddling around to make it work was a royal PITA. (The files originated in MSWord for Mac.) Now I take the input in MSWord .doc (2003 or so edition) and Symphony reads them fine. Symphony, altho a close cousin to OO and LO, is polished and finished, and even tho it has a few glitches, I like it far better than either OO or LO, which will probably never be polished and finished. --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
On 28/08/2012 at 17:58, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... It's official name is IBM Lotus Symphony. Basically it is OOo derivative with altered user interface. There has been news flying around some time ago that IBM decided to discontinue Lotus Symphony in favor of Apache OpenOffice. It is said that IBM donates whole Symphony code to Apache repository and pay some developers to work on it. As far as I know, they still haven't done anything. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
Thanks for this information. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.plwrote: On 28/08/2012 at 17:58, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... It's official name is IBM Lotus Symphony. Basically it is OOo derivative with altered user interface. There has been news flying around some time ago that IBM decided to discontinue Lotus Symphony in favor of Apache OpenOffice. It is said that IBM donates whole Symphony code to Apache repository and pay some developers to work on it. As far as I know, they still haven't done anything. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
The donated Symphony code has been received by the Apache OpenOffice project. It can be seen on the SVN repository. There is a team of developers, mainly in China, that are working to integrate the improvements in that code, especially around bug fixes and common features, into the AOO code base. Those developers provide an extensive and growing QA capability for AOO current releases as well. Now that Apache OpenOffice (incubating) 3.4.1 is out the door, the exploration of what to migrate into a 3.5 and what to do even more dramatically in a future 4.0 is under discussion. There had been discussion of whether or not to rebase AOO on Symphony or to gradually meld Symphony into AOO. The gradual path is being taken. There are wiki pages on 3.5 feature selection as well as ideas for 4.0. Anyone can look and, with registration, add to those deliberations. - Dennis -Original Message- From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 09:45 To: Mirosław Zalewski Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony Thanks for this information. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.plwrote: On 28/08/2012 at 17:58, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... It's official name is IBM Lotus Symphony. Basically it is OOo derivative with altered user interface. There has been news flying around some time ago that IBM decided to discontinue Lotus Symphony in favor of Apache OpenOffice. It is said that IBM donates whole Symphony code to Apache repository and pay some developers to work on it. As far as I know, they still haven't done anything. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
On 08/28/2012 11:58 AM, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... Lotus Symphony is a product of IBM. It's free, open source (I think) and, as I said, a close cousin to OO and LO. I haven't gone back to the site to see if it's available in forms other than MS Windows and RPM, but the RPM format is what I used to install it in PCLinuxOS. It's been a while since I got it, and I remember that it's just a tiny bit tricky to find and download what you need, but a few minutes patience will get it for you. http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home Symphony contains the usual office paraphernalia--Document, Presentation, and Spreadsheet. It's user-friendly, unlike its cousins, with graphic icons for all the usual editing functions--line spacing, fonts, type size, justification, etc. As I mentioned, it's /finished/. Not a work in progress. But be warned: There are a couple of glitches you will find, and if they are too onerous, you will give up on it. I don't know if the glitches will be fixed, but I live with them. Mainly, the vertical bar disappears. YMMV. . . . --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
On 28/08/2012 at 20:53, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: As I mentioned, it's /finished/. Not a work in progress. But be warned: There are a couple of glitches you will find Where do you draw a line between work in progress with glitches and finished with glitches? -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
Thank you for responding with these details. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 08/28/2012 11:58 AM, anne-ology wrote: Thanks for informing the list; I'm interested in hearing further on Symphony?, as to where to find it, what all it contains, ... Lotus Symphony is a product of IBM. It's free, open source (I think) and, as I said, a close cousin to OO and LO. I haven't gone back to the site to see if it's available in forms other than MS Windows and RPM, but the RPM format is what I used to install it in PCLinuxOS. It's been a while since I got it, and I remember that it's just a tiny bit tricky to find and download what you need, but a few minutes patience will get it for you. http://www-03.ibm.com/**software/lotus/symphony/home.**nsf/homehttp://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home Symphony contains the usual office paraphernalia--Document, Presentation, and Spreadsheet. It's user-friendly, unlike its cousins, with graphic icons for all the usual editing functions--line spacing, fonts, type size, justification, etc. As I mentioned, it's /finished/. Not a work in progress. But be warned: There are a couple of glitches you will find, and if they are too onerous, you will give up on it. I don't know if the glitches will be fixed, but I live with them. Mainly, the vertical bar disappears. YMMV. . . . --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] compatibility / Symphony
On 08/28/2012 03:27 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 28/08/2012 at 20:53, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: As I mentioned, it's /finished/. Not a work in progress. But be warned: There are a couple of glitches you will find Where do you draw a line between work in progress with glitches and finished with glitches? Perhaps nothing is finished since virtually every program has some kind of bug. But I would say that when an office program is in the form that WordPerfect or MSWord have, it's finished, and when it has no user-friendly flourishes, it's not finished. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
