Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Wow!  I was about to point out that Gary is on Windows, and therefore has a
very limited command-line, but then i found that "wget" IS available for
Windows!!

From the Gnu.Org link i found that possibly the best link is;
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm
because it has some back-ground information.  The;
https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/
link is very bare-bones but does give the ".exe"'s for various systems as
zipped files or in one case as the uncompressed exe itself.

From the first link the "Install Instructions" are at;
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/install.html

With an FAQ at;
http://wget.addictivecode.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?
(at a guess the "?" stops Internet Explorer from being able to get to that
page!)

The full guide/manual is at;
https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/
The heading on that page refers to "The GNU Operating System".

Which most people refer to as Linux but that page calls Gnu/Linux and then
describes how it is Gnu & Linux together that form the whole OS (although
yes the Gnu part is MUCH the larger part(s) of the whole OS) = so i tend to
refer to it as Gnu  Really I think the Gnu people should wake up to
the fact that they have already lost this naming fight (only about 20-30
years ago!) and that although it is desperately unfair it just causes
confusion to mention Gnu this late in the game.

Anyway, ignore the heading because if you look closely you'll see the
guide/manual is just for the Wget command, not 'the' entire OS!

Regards from
Tom :)




On 20 October 2015 at 20:41,  wrote:

> Gary Collins wrote:
>
>> I've just tried this in firefox. A couple of things:
>>
>> 1) access to the file save option seems to be indirect - but maybe there
>> is a way to customise this, I haven't got time to check at the moment; but
>>
>> 2) much more importantly - it does indeed save as a single file, but the
>> formatting is *awful* nothing like the original page, and pictures,
>> graphics, etc are not there - just links. That's not what I want to see
>> when  I open a webpage file, I want to see the page (more or less) the same
>> as it was originally when I opened it online.
>>
>
> I think Firefox is similar, but in SeaMonkey (based on Firefox) under File
> > Save As there are a couple of options:
>
> - "Web Page, complete" saves referenced files images, stylesheets, etc. in
> a folder alongside the HTML file and changes the references in the HTML
> file to refer to the saved copies. It still sometimes misses some, I guess
> if the references are generated dynamically by a script it can't reliably
> predict what might be needed.
>
> - "Web Page, HTML only" just saves the HTML file without all the other
> resources. In that case, I think the references are left as they were
> originally, so you'll see them if you have Internet access and they're
> still available at the same URLs (or your browser has cached them). If not,
> you won't get the images, stylesheets, etc.
>
> Which raises another issue: I save pages for later viewing on a machine
>> that doesn't have an internet connection. I'm assuming that an internet
>> connection will be essential to follow any of the hyperlinks in the file,
>> which would render the format useless for my purposes.
>>
>
> You might want to look at wget:
>   https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/
> It's a command-line utility which can not only download web pages along
> with referenced resources, just as the "complete" option above does, but
> also recursively follow links - so you would be able to follow them
> offline. I believe it mirrors the structure of resources from the server,
> so for example if the same image is used on every page you only download it
> once.
>
> I guess it would still suffer the same limitations with dynamically
> generated references.
>
> Mark.
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Gary Collins]

I've just tried this in firefox. A couple of things:

1) access to the file save option seems to be indirect - but maybe there is a 
way to customise this, I haven't got time to check at the moment; but

2) much more importantly - it does indeed save as a single file, but the 
formatting is *awful* nothing like the original page, and pictures, graphics, 
etc are not there - just links. That's not what I want to see when  I open a 
webpage file, I want to see the page (more or less) the same as it was 
originally when I opened it online.

Which raises another issue: I save pages for later viewing on a machine that 
doesn't have an internet connection. I'm assuming that an internet connection 
will be essential to follow any of the hyperlinks in the file, which would 
render the format useless for my purposes.

best,/G.
   From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
 To: jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> 
Cc: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
<users@global.libreoffice.org> 
 Sent: Friday, 16 October 2015, 21:51
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
   
Hi :)  I've just seen that option in Chrome too.  It's a little more awkward.  
From the icon with 3 horizontal lines go down to "More Tools".  Then "Save 
page" gives a dialogue with options at the bottom to save as a single file or 
as proper html.  
Thanks Jorge!  It's nice to find or be told about these things :)  Regards from 
Tom :)  


On 16 October 2015 at 17:35, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:

Hi:

        As I see in Firefox, we can save as Web page complete-by default (As I
understand Tom comment), and .html format (A single file to save the web
page as I suggest). I'm sorry if I am wrong.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 16:47 +0100, Tom Davies escribió:
> Hi :)
> I thought saving in html format tends to create an extra sub-folder
> for images and snippets of code and stuff.  The links in the html file
> pick-up on the stuff that's in that new sub-folder.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 16 October 2015 at 16:36, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:
>         Good morning Gary and all:
>
>                 I'm not sure if this following words are of
>         topic...excuse me if
>         yes ! :
>
>                 I don't remember knowing about .mht file format to
>         save web site pages.
>         But when I need to do that I use .html file format that give
>         us a only
>         one file of the web page with all sourse of it as links for
>         example.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Jorge Rodríguez
>
>         El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 08:42 +, Gary Collins escribió:
>         > Tom,
>         > That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of
>         it. I will give it a go. In general, I use MS because it has
>         been the only one I know capable of handling .mht files, and I
>         save web pages using that format because I find it *much* more
>         convenient to have the page saved in a single file, rather
>         than as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now
>         open these files now? I don't know, I haven't got around to
>         checking recently. You know how it is, you find something that
>         works for you and just stick with it - kind of inertia.
>         > I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested
>         that it might be due to the type of formatting used in
>         the .css - using "vertical-align", and if so, that LO probably
>         wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a text editor and
>         that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these
>         pages.
>         > I have since found a workaround which is not the most
>         convenient but will at least allow me to get done what I need
>         to get done.
>         > best,/Gary
>         >        From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
>         >  To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
>         > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"
>         <users@global.libreoffice.org>
>         >  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
>         >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with
>         formatting from a web page
>         >
>         > Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with
>         Microsoft Office?  Err, is there any surprise there?
>         > Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer
>         often seems to be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems
>         to have a load of different 'issues' handling internationally
>         agreed standards (yes, Microsoft AR

Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[libreoffice-ml . mbourne]

Gary Collins wrote:

I've just tried this in firefox. A couple of things:

1) access to the file save option seems to be indirect - but maybe there is a 
way to customise this, I haven't got time to check at the moment; but

2) much more importantly - it does indeed save as a single file, but the 
formatting is *awful* nothing like the original page, and pictures, graphics, 
etc are not there - just links. That's not what I want to see when  I open a 
webpage file, I want to see the page (more or less) the same as it was 
originally when I opened it online.


I think Firefox is similar, but in SeaMonkey (based on Firefox) under 
File > Save As there are a couple of options:


- "Web Page, complete" saves referenced files images, stylesheets, etc. 
in a folder alongside the HTML file and changes the references in the 
HTML file to refer to the saved copies. It still sometimes misses some, 
I guess if the references are generated dynamically by a script it can't 
reliably predict what might be needed.


- "Web Page, HTML only" just saves the HTML file without all the other 
resources. In that case, I think the references are left as they were 
originally, so you'll see them if you have Internet access and they're 
still available at the same URLs (or your browser has cached them). If 
not, you won't get the images, stylesheets, etc.



Which raises another issue: I save pages for later viewing on a machine that 
doesn't have an internet connection. I'm assuming that an internet connection 
will be essential to follow any of the hyperlinks in the file, which would 
render the format useless for my purposes.


You might want to look at wget:
  https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/
It's a command-line utility which can not only download web pages along 
with referenced resources, just as the "complete" option above does, but 
also recursively follow links - so you would be able to follow them 
offline. I believe it mirrors the structure of resources from the 
server, so for example if the same image is used on every page you only 
download it once.


I guess it would still suffer the same limitations with dynamically 
generated references.


Mark.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I've just seen that option in Chrome too.  It's a little more awkward.
From the icon with 3 horizontal lines go down to "More Tools".  Then "Save
page" gives a dialogue with options at the bottom to save as a single file
or as proper html.

Thanks Jorge!  It's nice to find or be told about these things :)
Regards from
Tom :)

On 16 October 2015 at 17:35, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> As I see in Firefox, we can save as Web page complete-by default
> (As I
> understand Tom comment), and .html format (A single file to save the web
> page as I suggest). I'm sorry if I am wrong.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Rodríguez
>
>
> El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 16:47 +0100, Tom Davies escribió:
> > Hi :)
> > I thought saving in html format tends to create an extra sub-folder
> > for images and snippets of code and stuff.  The links in the html file
> > pick-up on the stuff that's in that new sub-folder.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 16 October 2015 at 16:36, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:
> > Good morning Gary and all:
> >
> > I'm not sure if this following words are of
> > topic...excuse me if
> > yes ! :
> >
> > I don't remember knowing about .mht file format to
> > save web site pages.
> > But when I need to do that I use .html file format that give
> > us a only
> > one file of the web page with all sourse of it as links for
> > example.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jorge Rodríguez
> >
> > El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 08:42 +, Gary Collins escribió:
> > > Tom,
> > > That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of
> > it. I will give it a go. In general, I use MS because it has
> > been the only one I know capable of handling .mht files, and I
> > save web pages using that format because I find it *much* more
> > convenient to have the page saved in a single file, rather
> > than as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now
> > open these files now? I don't know, I haven't got around to
> > checking recently. You know how it is, you find something that
> > works for you and just stick with it - kind of inertia.
> > > I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested
> > that it might be due to the type of formatting used in
> > the .css - using "vertical-align", and if so, that LO probably
> > wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a text editor and
> > that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these
> > pages.
> > > I have since found a workaround which is not the most
> > convenient but will at least allow me to get done what I need
> > to get done.
> > > best,/Gary
> > >From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
> > >  To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"
> > <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> > >  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
> > >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with
> > formatting from a web page
> > >
> > > Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with
> > Microsoft Office?  Err, is there any surprise there?
> > > Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer
> > often seems to be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems
> > to have a load of different 'issues' handling internationally
> > agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE involved in setting those
> > standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write extra code
> > specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE
> > seems to behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to
> > have remarkable security issues.  MS usually put out at least
> > 1 or more security patch per fortnight to deal with some
> > critical problem or other.
> > > Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or
> > anything else.  Even Firefox's worst releases appear to be
> > better than IE.  There are a huge range of web-browsers
> > available for free and quite easy to download and install.
> > > Per

Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Gary Collins]

Tom, 
That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of it. I will give it a 
go. In general, I use MS because it has been the only one I know capable of 
handling .mht files, and I save web pages using that format because I find it 
*much* more convenient to have the page saved in a single file, rather than as 
a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now open these files now? I 
don't know, I haven't got around to checking recently. You know how it is, you 
find something that works for you and just stick with it - kind of inertia.
I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested that it might be 
due to the type of formatting used in the .css - using "vertical-align", and if 
so, that LO probably wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a text editor 
and that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these pages. 
I have since found a workaround which is not the most convenient but will at 
least allow me to get done what I need to get done.
best,/Gary
   From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
 To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
 Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
   
Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with Microsoft Office?  
Err, is there any surprise there?  
Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer often seems to be a 
pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems to have a load of different 'issues' 
handling internationally agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE involved in 
setting those standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write extra code 
specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE seems to behave more 
like a trojan as it's so often found to have remarkable security issues.  MS 
usually put out at least 1 or more security patch per fortnight to deal with 
some critical problem or other.  
Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or anything else.  Even 
Firefox's worst releases appear to be better than IE.  There are a huge range 
of web-browsers available for free and quite easy to download and install.  
Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as plain-text and then 
add back the formatting myself.  There are a few websites i kinda trust but in 
general i'd try to avoid risking pulling dodgy formatting and what-ever else 
across into another program/app.  
Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this! Many apols sand regards from 
Tom :)  


 


On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
       From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
 Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

Hi,
I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer doc; the 
text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've tried normal, 
HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can get attributes 
such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that superscript. MS Word OTOH 
does preserve the superscript attribute, so it must be there on the clipboard. 
Is there a way of coaxing this information into Writer?
Thanks,/Gary


    
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Brian is always technically correct so it's well worth taking much more
notice of his suggestions than mine.  I tend to use generalities and maybe
suggest ways of exploring or experimenting or different ways of thinking
and give links to documentation that might help.  Brian 'just' gives the
right answer each time.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 October 2015 at 09:42, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of it. I will give
> it a go. In general, I use MS because it has been the only one I know
> capable of handling .mht files, and I save web pages using that format
> because I find it *much* more convenient to have the page saved in a single
> file, rather than as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now
> open these files now? I don't know, I haven't got around to checking
> recently. You know how it is, you find something that works for you and
> just stick with it - kind of inertia.
>
> I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested that it might
> be due to the type of formatting used in the .css - using "vertical-align",
> and if so, that LO probably wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a
> text editor and that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these
> pages.
>
> I have since found a workaround which is not the most convenient but will
> at least allow me to get done what I need to get done.
>
> best,
> /Gary
>
> --
> *From:* Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> *Cc:* "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a
> web page
>
> Hi :)
> So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with Microsoft Office?
> Err, is there any surprise there?
>
> Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer often seems to
> be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems to have a load of different
> 'issues' handling internationally agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE
> involved in setting those standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write
> extra code specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE seems
> to behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to have remarkable
> security issues.  MS usually put out at least 1 or more security patch per
> fortnight to deal with some critical problem or other.
>
> Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or anything else.  Even
> Firefox's worst releases appear to be better than IE.  There are a huge
> range of web-browsers available for free and quite easy to download and
> install.
>
> Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as plain-text and
> then add back the formatting myself.  There are a few websites i kinda
> trust but in general i'd try to avoid risking pulling dodgy formatting and
> what-ever else across into another program/app.
>
> Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this!
> Many apols sand regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
>From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
>  To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
>  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
>  Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
>
> Hi,
> I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer
> doc; the text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've
> tried normal, HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can
> get attributes such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that
> superscript. MS Word OTOH does preserve the superscript attribute, so it
> must be there on the clipboard. Is there a way of coaxing this information
> into Writer?
> Thanks,/Gary
>
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[jorge]

Good morning Gary and all:

I'm not sure if this following words are of topic...excuse me if
yes ! : 

I don't remember knowing about .mht file format to save web site pages.
But when I need to do that I use .html file format that give us a only
one file of the web page with all sourse of it as links for example.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 08:42 +, Gary Collins escribió:
> Tom, 
> That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of it. I will give it 
> a go. In general, I use MS because it has been the only one I know capable of 
> handling .mht files, and I save web pages using that format because I find it 
> *much* more convenient to have the page saved in a single file, rather than 
> as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now open these files now? 
> I don't know, I haven't got around to checking recently. You know how it is, 
> you find something that works for you and just stick with it - kind of 
> inertia.
> I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested that it might be 
> due to the type of formatting used in the .css - using "vertical-align", and 
> if so, that LO probably wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a text 
> editor and that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these pages. 
> I have since found a workaround which is not the most convenient but will at 
> least allow me to get done what I need to get done.
> best,/Gary
>From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
>  To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> 
> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
>  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
>  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
>
> Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with Microsoft 
> Office?  Err, is there any surprise there?  
> Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer often seems to be 
> a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems to have a load of different 
> 'issues' handling internationally agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE 
> involved in setting those standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write 
> extra code specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE seems to 
> behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to have remarkable security 
> issues.  MS usually put out at least 1 or more security patch per fortnight 
> to deal with some critical problem or other.  
> Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or anything else.  Even 
> Firefox's worst releases appear to be better than IE.  There are a huge range 
> of web-browsers available for free and quite easy to download and install.  
> Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as plain-text and 
> then add back the formatting myself.  There are a few websites i kinda trust 
> but in general i'd try to avoid risking pulling dodgy formatting and 
> what-ever else across into another program/app.  
> Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this! Many apols sand regards 
> from Tom :)  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
>    From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
>  To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
>  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
>  Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
> 
> Hi,
> I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer doc; 
> the text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've tried 
> normal, HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can get 
> attributes such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that superscript. MS 
> Word OTOH does preserve the superscript attribute, so it must be there on the 
> clipboard. Is there a way of coaxing this information into Writer?
> Thanks,/Gary
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I thought saving in html format tends to create an extra sub-folder for
images and snippets of code and stuff.  The links in the html file pick-up
on the stuff that's in that new sub-folder.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 October 2015 at 16:36, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:

> Good morning Gary and all:
>
> I'm not sure if this following words are of topic...excuse me if
> yes ! :
>
> I don't remember knowing about .mht file format to save web site
> pages.
> But when I need to do that I use .html file format that give us a only
> one file of the web page with all sourse of it as links for example.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Rodríguez
>
> El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 08:42 +, Gary Collins escribió:
> > Tom,
> > That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of it. I will
> give it a go. In general, I use MS because it has been the only one I know
> capable of handling .mht files, and I save web pages using that format
> because I find it *much* more convenient to have the page saved in a single
> file, rather than as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now
> open these files now? I don't know, I haven't got around to checking
> recently. You know how it is, you find something that works for you and
> just stick with it - kind of inertia.
> > I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested that it
> might be due to the type of formatting used in the .css - using
> "vertical-align", and if so, that LO probably wouldn't recognise it. I
> checked the file in a text editor and that is indeed how the superscripting
> is generated in these pages.
> > I have since found a workaround which is not the most convenient but
> will at least allow me to get done what I need to get done.
> > best,/Gary
> >From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
> >  To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> >  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
> >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a
> web page
> >
> > Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with Microsoft
> Office?  Err, is there any surprise there?
> > Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer often seems
> to be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems to have a load of
> different 'issues' handling internationally agreed standards (yes,
> Microsoft ARE involved in setting those standards!).  So websites sometimes
> have to write extra code specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At
> best IE seems to behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to have
> remarkable security issues.  MS usually put out at least 1 or more security
> patch per fortnight to deal with some critical problem or other.
> > Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or anything else.
> Even Firefox's worst releases appear to be better than IE.  There are a
> huge range of web-browsers available for free and quite easy to download
> and install.
> > Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as plain-text
> and then add back the formatting myself.  There are a few websites i kinda
> trust but in general i'd try to avoid risking pulling dodgy formatting and
> what-ever else across into another program/app.
> > Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this! Many apols sand
> regards from Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
> >From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >  To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> >  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
> >  Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web
> page
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer
> doc; the text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've
> tried normal, HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can
> get attributes such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that
> superscript. MS Word OTOH does preserve the superscript attribute, so it
> must be there on the clipboard. Is there a way of coaxing this information
> into Writer?
> > Thanks,/Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[jorge]

Hi:

As I see in Firefox, we can save as Web page complete-by default (As I
understand Tom comment), and .html format (A single file to save the web
page as I suggest). I'm sorry if I am wrong.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 16:47 +0100, Tom Davies escribió:
> Hi :)  
> I thought saving in html format tends to create an extra sub-folder
> for images and snippets of code and stuff.  The links in the html file
> pick-up on the stuff that's in that new sub-folder.  
> Regards from 
> Tom :)  
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 October 2015 at 16:36, jorge <jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:
> Good morning Gary and all:
> 
> I'm not sure if this following words are of
> topic...excuse me if
> yes ! :
> 
> I don't remember knowing about .mht file format to
> save web site pages.
> But when I need to do that I use .html file format that give
> us a only
> one file of the web page with all sourse of it as links for
> example.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Rodríguez
> 
> El vie, 16-10-2015 a las 08:42 +, Gary Collins escribió:
> > Tom,
> > That's a good suggestion, perhaps I should have thought of
> it. I will give it a go. In general, I use MS because it has
> been the only one I know capable of handling .mht files, and I
> save web pages using that format because I find it *much* more
> convenient to have the page saved in a single file, rather
> than as a file plus a folder. Perhaps other browsers can now
> open these files now? I don't know, I haven't got around to
> checking recently. You know how it is, you find something that
> works for you and just stick with it - kind of inertia.
> > I had a reply privately from Brian, though, which suggested
> that it might be due to the type of formatting used in
> the .css - using "vertical-align", and if so, that LO probably
> wouldn't recognise it. I checked the file in a text editor and
> that is indeed how the superscripting is generated in these
> pages.
> > I have since found a workaround which is not the most
> convenient but will at least allow me to get done what I need
> to get done.
> > best,/Gary
> >From: Tom Davies <tomc...@gmail.com>
> >  To: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"
> <users@global.libreoffice.org>
> >  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 18:25
> >  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with
> formatting from a web page
> >
> > Hi :)  So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with
> Microsoft Office?  Err, is there any surprise there?
> > Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer
> often seems to be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems
> to have a load of different 'issues' handling internationally
> agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE involved in setting those
> standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write extra code
> specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE
> seems to behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to
> have remarkable security issues.  MS usually put out at least
> 1 or more security patch per fortnight to deal with some
> critical problem or other.
> > Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or
> anything else.  Even Firefox's worst releases appear to be
> better than IE.  There are a huge range of web-browsers
> available for free and quite easy to download and install.
> > Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as
> plain-text and then add back the formatting myself.  There are
> a few websites i kinda trust but in general i'd try to avoid
> risking pulling dodgy formatting and what-ever else across
> into another program/app.
> > Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this! Many
> apols sand regards from Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins
> <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
> >From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >  To: "users@global.

[libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Gary Collins]

Hi, 
I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer doc; the 
text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've tried normal, 
HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can get attributes 
such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that superscript. MS Word OTOH 
does preserve the superscript attribute, so it must be there on the clipboard. 
Is there a way of coaxing this information into Writer?
Thanks,/Gary
 
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
So Microsoft's Internet Explorer only plays well with Microsoft Office?
Err, is there any surprise there?

Have you tried with other web-browsers?  Internet Explorer often seems to
be a pos imo and ime.  Each release of it seems to have a load of different
'issues' handling internationally agreed standards (yes, Microsoft ARE
involved in setting those standards!).  So websites sometimes have to write
extra code specifically aimed at certain versions of IE.  At best IE seems
to behave more like a trojan as it's so often found to have remarkable
security issues.  MS usually put out at least 1 or more security patch per
fortnight to deal with some critical problem or other.

Please, please, please try Chrome, Safari, Opera, or anything else.  Even
Firefox's worst releases appear to be better than IE.  There are a huge
range of web-browsers available for free and quite easy to download and
install.

Personally i would probably paste anything off a website as plain-text and
then add back the formatting myself.  There are a few websites i kinda
trust but in general i'd try to avoid risking pulling dodgy formatting and
what-ever else across into another program/app.

Sorry for the tone here!  Good luck with all this!
Many apols sand regards from
Tom :)





On 9 October 2015 at 15:54, Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
>From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
>  To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
>  Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
>  Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
>
> Hi,
> I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer
> doc; the text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've
> tried normal, HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can
> get attributes such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that
> superscript. MS Word OTOH does preserve the superscript attribute, so it
> must be there on the clipboard. Is there a way of coaxing this information
> into Writer?
> Thanks,/Gary
>
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page

[Gary Collins]

Should've said, I'm using 4.4.3.2/G.
   From: Gary Collins <gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk>
 To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
 Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015, 15:33
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] copying text with formatting from a web page
   
Hi, 
I'm copying some text from a web page (windows explorer) into a Writer doc; the 
text copies OK, but I can't seem to preserve superscripting. I've tried normal, 
HTML format and formatted text [RTF] as paste options; I can get attributes 
such as colour pasted, but can't seem to get that superscript. MS Word OTOH 
does preserve the superscript attribute, so it must be there on the clipboard. 
Is there a way of coaxing this information into Writer?
Thanks,/Gary


     
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copying text from one document to another with different formatting

[Piet van Oostrum]

H wrote:

  I am using LibreOffice 4.0.2 and have a need to copy a text selection 
  (recipient address) from one document to another, to a label template for a 
  continuous label printer. The text selection resides in a table and I'd like 
  to /not/ copy any of the formatting to the label template where a different 
  formatting needs to be applied.
  
  Currently, I copy the text selection which automatically includes the table 
  cell formatting, paste it into the second document, remove the extra space 
  above and below the table cells, select only the table cells, convert them 
  into text and finally apply the desired formatting style.
  
  As i am sure everyone understands, this gets old really fast and surely 
  there must be a faster way?
  
  Suggestions appreciated!

Have you tried Edit  Paste Special  Unformatted text?
You can bind this to a key. As I use this quite often I have it on 
Alt-Command-V (on a Mac).
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copying text from one document to another with different formatting

[Brian Barker]

At 16:27 05/06/2015 -0400, Honly Noname wrote:
I am using LibreOffice 4.0.2 and have a need to copy a text 
selection ... from one document to another, ...
... I'd like to /not/ copy any of the formatting to the label 
template where a different formatting needs to be applied.


o Copy the material.
Either:
o Go to Edit | Paste Special... and select Unformatted text.
Or:
o Use Ctrl+Shift+V and select Unformatted text.
Or:
o Use Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V.

The material will inherit the formatting of its surroundings in the 
target area.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Copying text from one document to another with different formatting

[H]

I am using LibreOffice 4.0.2 and have a need to copy a text selection 
(recipient address) from one document to another, to a label template for a 
continuous label printer. The text selection resides in a table and I'd like to 
/not/ copy any of the formatting to the label template where a different 
formatting needs to be applied.

Currently, I copy the text selection which automatically includes the table 
cell formatting, paste it into the second document, remove the extra space 
above and below the table cells, select only the table cells, convert them into 
text and finally apply the desired formatting style.

As i am sure everyone understands, this gets old really fast and surely there 
must be a faster way?

Suggestions appreciated!
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[libreoffice-users] Copying text

[A]

I want to enter text here [xxx] and have it copy that text


[here]

[here]

and [here].

How can I do that?

Example:

Dear Mr.  Mrs. [NAME]

Our study of the [NAME] dynasty is complete.  The [NAME] family has a 
history going back to the ancient Greeks, where Carlos [NAME] 
first...blah blah blah.



Thank you in advance.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copying text

[anne-ology]

   There are numerous programs to do just that;
   you should be able to find one to suit you here -
http://www.techsupportalert.com/

   But remember, there are some folks - as myself - who can spot these
generic letters -
   whether mailed or e-mailed - due to their impersonal approach.

   I feel the same indifference toward companies who use mailing
labels  ;-)

   From the horse 'n buggy era gal  ;-)



From: A publicf...@bak.rr.com
Date: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Copying text
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


I want to enter text here [xxx] and have it copy that text


[here]

[here]

and [here].

How can I do that?

Example:

Dear Mr.  Mrs. [NAME]

Our study of the [NAME] dynasty is complete.  The [NAME] family has a
history going back to the ancient Greeks, where Carlos [NAME] first...blah
blah blah.


Thank you in advance.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copying text

[A]

Thank you but copy  paste is not what I was looking for.


On 11/28/2013 01:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There are many ways.  You can even mixmatch.  My usual favourite is
to select the text with the mouse;
(single click at the start or end and then keeping my finger down on
the left mouse button drag the mouse arrow until all the text is
selected and then release the mouse button)

Then push down and hold the Ctrl key with my little finger.  While i'm
holding that down i press the c key with my middle finger.
Ctrl c
This naturally positions my index finger to hover just above the v.
Without moving the rest of my hand i ease up on the middle finger but
leave my little finger pressing down on the Ctrl key.

Then i use the mouse to move to the 1st target area and when i get
there push down sharply with my index finger and release my index
finger quickly so that it's hovering again.  Briefly the combination
was;
Ctrl v
bombs away right?  Then move swiftly to the 2nd target are and tap
the v key again with my little finger not having moved off the Ctrl
key the whole time.  Repeating the same move over and over until the
text i had initially selected has landed in all the right places.

Ctrl c = copy and oddly c stands for copy, right?
Ctrl v = paste and the v looks a bit like a down arrow

Another interesting one is

Ctrl x = cut and the x looks a little like a pair of scissors

If it goes horribly wrong then

Ctrl z = undo

Regards from
Tom :)




On 28 November 2013 21:21, A publicf...@bak.rr.com wrote:

I want to enter text here [xxx] and have it copy that text


[here]

[here]

and [here].

How can I do that?

Example:

Dear Mr.  Mrs. [NAME]

Our study of the [NAME] dynasty is complete.  The [NAME] family has a
history going back to the ancient Greeks, where Carlos [NAME] first...blah
blah blah.


Thank you in advance.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copying text

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
There are many ways.  You can even mixmatch.  My usual favourite is
to select the text with the mouse;
(single click at the start or end and then keeping my finger down on
the left mouse button drag the mouse arrow until all the text is
selected and then release the mouse button)

Then push down and hold the Ctrl key with my little finger.  While i'm
holding that down i press the c key with my middle finger.
Ctrl c
This naturally positions my index finger to hover just above the v.
Without moving the rest of my hand i ease up on the middle finger but
leave my little finger pressing down on the Ctrl key.

Then i use the mouse to move to the 1st target area and when i get
there push down sharply with my index finger and release my index
finger quickly so that it's hovering again.  Briefly the combination
was;
Ctrl v
bombs away right?  Then move swiftly to the 2nd target are and tap
the v key again with my little finger not having moved off the Ctrl
key the whole time.  Repeating the same move over and over until the
text i had initially selected has landed in all the right places.

Ctrl c = copy and oddly c stands for copy, right?
Ctrl v = paste and the v looks a bit like a down arrow

Another interesting one is

Ctrl x = cut and the x looks a little like a pair of scissors

If it goes horribly wrong then

Ctrl z = undo

Regards from
Tom :)




On 28 November 2013 21:21, A publicf...@bak.rr.com wrote:
 I want to enter text here [xxx] and have it copy that text


 [here]

 [here]

 and [here].

 How can I do that?

 Example:

 Dear Mr.  Mrs. [NAME]

 Our study of the [NAME] dynasty is complete.  The [NAME] family has a
 history going back to the ancient Greeks, where Carlos [NAME] first...blah
 blah blah.


 Thank you in advance.

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