Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-15 Thread e-letter
On 11/10/2012, Kyla Robertson robertsonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm migrating from MS Word (Office 2002 !) to LibO Writer. In Word, my
 Normal.dot template contains many, many things: about 150 styles, 250
 macros, some auto-insert texts, some custom shortcuts, many toolbars
 and custom buttons.

 How can I keep this all to use it with Writer?

You can't. Nor should you.

LO is not m$. Create all your styles (not macros, they are terrible
functions to use) in LO, creating native odf files. Perform a
cost-benefit analysis of your time to learn LO, the advantages of odf,
etc. and compare to the cost of using m$ and decide which to use
accordingly.

Do not use LO as a free opportunity to write and create m$ documents.
Search this mailing archive for previous posts on this ad nauseum
topic.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Lol!!  Welcome back e-letter!  

It seems a lot of things can be recovered and adapted for use with LO.  You 
don't have to start again from scratch and refuse to do business with the entre 
rest of the world until they start migrating away from MS.  If you did then LO 
would get nowhere. 

It is a good idea to keep your versions of your documents in LO formats = 
OpenDocument Formats such as odt, as those are native to the apps.  It would 
mean you can rely on them much more.  If/when you have to collaborate or 
present your documents to non-LO users then it's best to do Save As .. to 
save into the older MS formats (or the newer ones but they are a bit less 
predictable between different versions of MSO) such as doc (or Pdf if they 
don't need o be able to be edited).  

Note that Google-docs, Calligra, Lotus Symphony, AbiWord and all the rest use 
OpenDocument Formats as their default native formats too.  Even MS Office is 
starting to pretend to allow people to use OpenDocument Formats although their 
implementation is a bit broken (what else would you expect from MS right?).  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 15 October 2012, 11:49
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, 
macros, toolbars from Normal.dot
 
On 11/10/2012, Kyla Robertson robertsonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm migrating from MS Word (Office 2002 !) to LibO Writer. In Word, my
 Normal.dot template contains many, many things: about 150 styles, 250
 macros, some auto-insert texts, some custom shortcuts, many toolbars
 and custom buttons.

 How can I keep this all to use it with Writer?

You can't. Nor should you.

LO is not m$. Create all your styles (not macros, they are terrible
functions to use) in LO, creating native odf files. Perform a
cost-benefit analysis of your time to learn LO, the advantages of odf,
etc. and compare to the cost of using m$ and decide which to use
accordingly.

Do not use LO as a free opportunity to write and create m$ documents.
Search this mailing archive for previous posts on this ad nauseum
topic.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/10/12 12:16, Tom Davies wrote:

Even MS Office is starting to pretend to allow people to use OpenDocument 
Formats although their implementation is a bit broken (what else would you 
expect from MS right?).


Interestingly when you start a new installation of Word 2010 it asks you 
whether you want it to use OOXML or ODF as the default...

I hope that's not the slippery slope of embrace and extinguish

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Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Probably is.  Even so i think it's best to berate them for their poor 
implementation and keep hassling them to be better at their implementation of 
ODF.  Like using the more up-to-date version (1.2) that everyone else is using 
instead of the ancient 1.1.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 15 October 2012, 12:23
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, 
macros, toolbars from Normal.dot
 
On 15/10/12 12:16, Tom Davies wrote:
 Even MS Office is starting to pretend to allow people to use OpenDocument 
 Formats although their implementation is a bit broken (what else would you 
 expect from MS right?).
 
 
Interestingly when you start a new installation of Word 2010 it asks you 
whether you want it to use OOXML or ODF as the default...
I hope that's not the slippery slope of embrace and extinguish

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OOXMLhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8
I only accept odf or pdf documents by email


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Re: [libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-14 Thread anne-ology
   a couple of suggestions:

  (1) choose LO as the default - in this way, these documents
should open well in LO.

  (2) When you open these documents, 'save as' using the LO suffix.

  (3) do not delete MS Word.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Kyla Robertson robertsonk...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello,

 I'm migrating from MS Word (Office 2002 !) to LibO Writer. In Word, my
 Normal.dot template contains many, many things: about 150 styles, 250
 macros, some auto-insert texts, some custom shortcuts, many toolbars
 and custom buttons.

 How can I keep this all to use it with Writer?

 In Migration Guide: A guide to ease your migration to OpenOffice.org
 from other office [suites] (2004)
 (
 http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/oooauthors/MigrationGuide.pdf
 ),
 I found a few things:
  * AutoText entries: will the built-in method to import them still
 work with LibO 3.6.2?(should I get version 3.6.2 or 3.5.6, btw? I'm
 not sure I understand the difference.)
  * AutoCorrect entries: there's a work-around with a macro and the
 editing of a ./user/autocorr/acorr.dat file...
  * Custom dictionaries: there was a work-around to import their
 content, but the link to download the macro isn't valid anymore.

 Do you know of a more recent migration guide, or a tutorial on the
 Web, or forum post maybe? I couldn't find anything else.

 Thanks in advance for your help!



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[libreoffice-users] From MS Word to Writer: keeping my styles, macros, toolbars from Normal.dot

2012-10-11 Thread Kyla Robertson
Hello,

I'm migrating from MS Word (Office 2002 !) to LibO Writer. In Word, my
Normal.dot template contains many, many things: about 150 styles, 250
macros, some auto-insert texts, some custom shortcuts, many toolbars
and custom buttons.

How can I keep this all to use it with Writer?

In Migration Guide: A guide to ease your migration to OpenOffice.org
from other office [suites] (2004)
(http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/oooauthors/MigrationGuide.pdf),
I found a few things:
 * AutoText entries: will the built-in method to import them still
work with LibO 3.6.2?(should I get version 3.6.2 or 3.5.6, btw? I'm
not sure I understand the difference.)
 * AutoCorrect entries: there's a work-around with a macro and the
editing of a ./user/autocorr/acorr.dat file...
 * Custom dictionaries: there was a work-around to import their
content, but the link to download the macro isn't valid anymore.

Do you know of a more recent migration guide, or a tutorial on the
Web, or forum post maybe? I couldn't find anything else.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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