Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
Hello! I have just watched the video provided: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be I think this video is tidy. (I have not used CMIS.) The voice is nice. I think I have kept my video as short as about two minutes. I think people will not have the patience. (Most people I know do not have patience.) I also feel that two minutes is the key. If a video is longer than that, then the process must be very long. Very serious users will spend more than two minutes on watching such a long video. If I need to use CMIS tomorrow (being very nervous), I will need to know how to do it as soon as possible. I suggest giving the audience the most important steps first. The link mentioned is for more advanced users, I believe. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月8日 (週五) 1:03 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hi :) Nicely done :) Have you sent it to the documentation mailing list? They might be interested in putting it on their page of video tutorials. Btw have you seen this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be that uses an unusual sound-track and a minimalist voice to help keep people's attention? I've seen a lot of YouTube HowTos that have sound-tracks that quickly get very out-dated by choosing music that is very fashionable but that lacks class. I don't like the particular piece of music in that link i just gave but i do like the way that it's unusual enough that people are unlikely to have heard it before and certainly not enough to get tired of it. Also a lot of times videos have constant chatter going on, often without really adding adding anything useful. Lots of umm and ahh and Here you can see that i am doing or As you can see. The constant flow of words makes it difficult to translate and yet keep the timings good. What i really liked about the voice in the link i gave was that the speaking parts were short and distinct so that when it was translated from Danish into English the chap was able to chop up Pamela's voice and place the comments in exactly the right places. So, Pamela only had to leave decent pauses between statements. She didn't have to get the pauses exactly right because Leif was going to chop up the voice-audio and place the parts appropriately to fit the video and the music. I think the only thing missing is an srt file under the video so that people could download the srt and the video in order to see the subtitles. Alternatively just some way people could get the script in some other text format. Either way something for blind users to be able to get through their screen-readers. Anyway i really just wondered what you thought of the link. Have you done a lot of these sorts of things? Yours looked like you knew what you were doing. If you do write a script i might be able to get Pamela or another lady to read it for you as long as the script was quite short and if they could re-arrange it a bit to make it flow better when saying the words out loud. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 1:34 Subject: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hello! I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas: http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a fancy look in LibreOffice. Feel free to watch. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
Hi :) The girl/lady reading the script has used LibreOffice a couple of times but really had no idea how to do the things she was reading about and still doesn't know. To be fair neither do i but she has a nice voice so i might listen to it enough to work out what it's about. It might even help me with my work as i use a CMS (one i find a bit of a pita tbh) quite frequently. The main point is that if articles are promoting the CMIS thing then it would be sensible if they gave a link to further info about it and all i know is that video. So, i am trying to give the link in the comments section in some of the articles Italo gave us links to. It's interesting to hear about a 2minute rule. I guessed at 3 minutes a couple of months ago so it's good to know i wasn't tooo far off. Hopefully for that video, people watching will mostly be advanced users ready to commit to the full 5mins and the nice voice might help keep them focused. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 15:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hello! I have just watched the video provided: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be I think this video is tidy. (I have not used CMIS.) The voice is nice. I think I have kept my video as short as about two minutes. I think people will not have the patience. (Most people I know do not have patience.) I also feel that two minutes is the key. If a video is longer than that, then the process must be very long. Very serious users will spend more than two minutes on watching such a long video. If I need to use CMIS tomorrow (being very nervous), I will need to know how to do it as soon as possible. I suggest giving the audience the most important steps first. The link mentioned is for more advanced users, I believe. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月8日 (週五) 1:03 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hi :) Nicely done :) Have you sent it to the documentation mailing list? They might be interested in putting it on their page of video tutorials. Btw have you seen this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be that uses an unusual sound-track and a minimalist voice to help keep people's attention? I've seen a lot of YouTube HowTos that have sound-tracks that quickly get very out-dated by choosing music that is very fashionable but that lacks class. I don't like the particular piece of music in that link i just gave but i do like the way that it's unusual enough that people are unlikely to have heard it before and certainly not enough to get tired of it. Also a lot of times videos have constant chatter going on, often without really adding adding anything useful. Lots of umm and ahh and Here you can see that i am doing or As you can see. The constant flow of words makes it difficult to translate and yet keep the timings good. What i really liked about the voice in the link i gave was that the speaking parts were short and distinct so that when it was translated from Danish into English the chap was able to chop up Pamela's voice and place the comments in exactly the right places. So, Pamela only had to leave decent pauses between statements. She didn't have to get the pauses exactly right because Leif was going to chop up the voice-audio and place the parts appropriately to fit the video and the music. I think the only thing missing is an srt file under the video so that people could download the srt and the video in order to see the subtitles. Alternatively just some way people could get the script in some other text format. Either way something for blind users to be able to get through their screen-readers. Anyway i really just wondered what you thought of the link. Have you done a lot of these sorts of things? Yours looked like you knew what you were doing. If you do write a script i might be able to get Pamela or another lady to read it for you as long as the script was quite short and if they could re-arrange it a bit to make it flow better when saying the words out loud. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 1:34 Subject: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hello! I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas: http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a fancy look in LibreOffice. Feel
Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
Hi :) Weird. Doesn't the text change to white where the background is black or dark? My menus are all white and i'm not keen to test this idea. Regards from Tom :) From: Scott Castaline skotch...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 4:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I see I'm not the only one playing around with that in 4.0. I thought it was pretty neat, I now have StarTrekXI personas on FF, T'Bird and LO. The only drawback is the menu bar text is black so if the persona has black in that area the text disappears. On 02/07/2013 08:34 PM, C. H. D. wrote: Hello! I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas: http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a fancy look in LibreOffice. Feel free to watch. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRFHvuAAoJEIefqZ0kni1dDYgQAJG+mY+TjKfTR9f6OkCtpVd7 6L9O7h9sDsD6mxO9fbIDb+pvehQFqP9vlZqzIoZR/Rh0sLBu65WWyBlsLw6aS5Ym EARaWLrTF+krJpr7OPWdf4KEPSIuPSgwXsmWvIsomUZ+Mg7pERPfG0Ueu+eLFUtn 8h5xYH2u5/bAdDa0gdVEioDeHyY1LrufPrLOaEQZ5jBmpN2kyk590k/OeojKs0pm +zgxQHFUJffAU59h+y2W9czEzL4ETrIT0mhnX3SqOvLKHEkUK4jhPsMfcYab10gM GFsROn8fhUst90BtKOzVVlUBoNXeHLUHo+SNb1xqkzYFEvll0coDgMFvrVPIGx14 croUWPQRSWXY4BtXELBF1SJmrFlWPikgUxqYpYQsXJslI/PuwV4px3Jq3l1EQzSB oia8owWeZUl8X/bFwSYX9v7z/NNL+7PJfmwKaUjHc4FlEW7TeybM4kyPyrH9jhHQ UTQtgHimnkBAbYn+cXGMAh/V6DuceIdkDa5NJV8dHcO2J83TenOwvgatFfVdwmSH 0OMHnjXrZHjCu5d/fGHSnXdmsIC58PyPmwfId6ku9SKIAQra5O9I+Xi59CVTAwdx cW7i1COiLya/EShmzogmmctdqlqZQE0zErtuhjgd8O9M0AGpACdkOn88ej05DX7T 2liXiHuSKPzaYMS/5uwm =Xkob -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
There are a lot of persona[s] I have tried for Firefox that did not work for me. Same will go for LO 4.0.0. There is some easy instructions on the FF site to help people create your own persona[s]. I may be creating a version myself, specifically working for LO 4.0.0. If I do, I will place it on the FF so if you search for LibreOffice, you will find it. The hardest thing is deciding what you want the top menu bar to look like and doing the image editing. After that it is a very simple process. So simple, that there many thousands of them out there. On 02/08/2013 10:23 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) The girl/lady reading the script has used LibreOffice a couple of times but really had no idea how to do the things she was reading about and still doesn't know. To be fair neither do i but she has a nice voice so i might listen to it enough to work out what it's about. It might even help me with my work as i use a CMS (one i find a bit of a pita tbh) quite frequently. The main point is that if articles are promoting the CMIS thing then it would be sensible if they gave a link to further info about it and all i know is that video. So, i am trying to give the link in the comments section in some of the articles Italo gave us links to. It's interesting to hear about a 2minute rule. I guessed at 3 minutes a couple of months ago so it's good to know i wasn't tooo far off. Hopefully for that video, people watching will mostly be advanced users ready to commit to the full 5mins and the nice voice might help keep them focused. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 15:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hello! I have just watched the video provided: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be I think this video is tidy. (I have not used CMIS.) The voice is nice. I think I have kept my video as short as about two minutes. I think people will not have the patience. (Most people I know do not have patience.) I also feel that two minutes is the key. If a video is longer than that, then the process must be very long. Very serious users will spend more than two minutes on watching such a long video. If I need to use CMIS tomorrow (being very nervous), I will need to know how to do it as soon as possible. I suggest giving the audience the most important steps first. The link mentioned is for more advanced users, I believe. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月8日 (週五) 1:03 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas Hi :) Nicely done :) Have you sent it to the documentation mailing list? They might be interested in putting it on their page of video tutorials. Btw have you seen this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be that uses an unusual sound-track and a minimalist voice to help keep people's attention? I've seen a lot of YouTube HowTos that have sound-tracks that quickly get very out-dated by choosing music that is very fashionable but that lacks class. I don't like the particular piece of music in that link i just gave but i do like the way that it's unusual enough that people are unlikely to have heard it before and certainly not enough to get tired of it. Also a lot of times videos have constant chatter going on, often without really adding adding anything useful. Lots of umm and ahh and Here you can see that i am doing or As you can see. The constant flow of words makes it difficult to translate and yet keep the timings good. What i really liked about the voice in the link i gave was that the speaking parts were short and distinct so that when it was translated from Danish into English the chap was able to chop up Pamela's voice and place the comments in exactly the right places. So, Pamela only had to leave decent pauses between statements. She didn't have to get the pauses exactly right because Leif was going to chop up the voice-audio and place the parts appropriately to fit the video and the music. I think the only thing missing is an srt file under the video so that people could download the srt and the video in order to see the subtitles. Alternatively just some way people could get the script in some other text format. Either way something for blind users to be able to get through their screen-readers. Anyway i really just wondered what you thought of the link. Have you done a lot of these sorts of things? Yours looked like you knew what you were doing. If you do write a script i might be able to get Pamela or another lady to read it for you as long as the script was quite short
Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I see I'm not the only one playing around with that in 4.0. I thought it was pretty neat, I now have StarTrekXI personas on FF, T'Bird and LO. The only drawback is the menu bar text is black so if the persona has black in that area the text disappears. On 02/07/2013 08:34 PM, C. H. D. wrote: Hello! I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas: http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a fancy look in LibreOffice. Feel free to watch. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRFHvuAAoJEIefqZ0kni1dDYgQAJG+mY+TjKfTR9f6OkCtpVd7 6L9O7h9sDsD6mxO9fbIDb+pvehQFqP9vlZqzIoZR/Rh0sLBu65WWyBlsLw6aS5Ym EARaWLrTF+krJpr7OPWdf4KEPSIuPSgwXsmWvIsomUZ+Mg7pERPfG0Ueu+eLFUtn 8h5xYH2u5/bAdDa0gdVEioDeHyY1LrufPrLOaEQZ5jBmpN2kyk590k/OeojKs0pm +zgxQHFUJffAU59h+y2W9czEzL4ETrIT0mhnX3SqOvLKHEkUK4jhPsMfcYab10gM GFsROn8fhUst90BtKOzVVlUBoNXeHLUHo+SNb1xqkzYFEvll0coDgMFvrVPIGx14 croUWPQRSWXY4BtXELBF1SJmrFlWPikgUxqYpYQsXJslI/PuwV4px3Jq3l1EQzSB oia8owWeZUl8X/bFwSYX9v7z/NNL+7PJfmwKaUjHc4FlEW7TeybM4kyPyrH9jhHQ UTQtgHimnkBAbYn+cXGMAh/V6DuceIdkDa5NJV8dHcO2J83TenOwvgatFfVdwmSH 0OMHnjXrZHjCu5d/fGHSnXdmsIC58PyPmwfId6ku9SKIAQra5O9I+Xi59CVTAwdx cW7i1COiLya/EShmzogmmctdqlqZQE0zErtuhjgd8O9M0AGpACdkOn88ej05DX7T 2liXiHuSKPzaYMS/5uwm =Xkob -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
