Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
Did not know that. Thanks! Dave, -- “Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.” ― Steve Martin On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 04:26 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 15:03 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: > >I tend to write things in the margins to clarify a point, or an > >example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF version. > > No, it's very easy. The security properties of the PDF manuals say > "Commenting: Allowed" and a suitable viewer (even my freeware Adobe > Reader) will allow addition of notes, comments, sticky notes, stamps, > even audio, as well as formatting such as highlighting. Just what you > need. > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
At 15:03 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: I tend to write things in the margins to clarify a point, or an example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF version. No, it's very easy. The security properties of the PDF manuals say "Commenting: Allowed" and a suitable viewer (even my freeware Adobe Reader) will allow addition of notes, comments, sticky notes, stamps, even audio, as well as formatting such as highlighting. Just what you need. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 03:50 PM, Dave Barton wrote: > Original Message > From: Dave Boland > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:03:39 -0400 > > > Soft felt tip pens are not so damaging :-)) Hey, there's an idea! > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > then you can add all the notes you want. Maybe you could even finish up > contributing your edits to the doc project. :) Yes? Will definitely consider this. > > In addition to the above, the main reason for the delay in docs for > version 5 is the tiny number of (overworked) people working on them. Isn't that always the case? Speaking as an engineer, the documentation is my version of latrine duty - no fun! It's like they used to say at Charmin "No job is finished until the paper work is done" We > have been very fortunate to have the "Base Handbook" for 5 near > completion, thanks to the German language project (mainly Robert > Großkopf), who not only created the original, but also did most of the > "heavy lifting" translating it into English. > > The short answer to your question is that the 5 docs are not much more > that a dot on the horizon, so go with the 4.2 docs for now. I'll give it a try - thanks! Dave, -- I never know where the line is until AFTER I crossed it! -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
All, Does anyone know when the LO 5 documentation will be available? If not, or if it may be awhile, would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs for Calc and Base? I know there are changes to Calc, but my guess is that the 4.2 docs may still be worth printing if it will be a while. Don't know about Base. Thanks, Dave -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
Original Message From: Dave Boland Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:03:39 -0400 > Brian, > > Well, I tried that. The problem was all the marks and words I made on > the monitor (crib notes) - they ruined my monitor :-)) . Soft felt tip pens are not so damaging :-)) > Actually, that is the point. I tend to write things in the margins to > clarify a point, or an example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF > version. Seriously, grab the ODT editions from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications then you can add all the notes you want. Maybe you could even finish up contributing your edits to the doc project. :) Yes? > In any event, the Ver. 5 docs. are not out yet, so we come back to my > question - how close are the 4.2 docs? I looked at the change log, but > I never get a good feel for the changes until I start using something. > In the case of Calc, the changes to areas I need seem to be minor. The number of changes vary from module to module. Unfortunately, it's not just a case of "plonking" new bits of text into revisions of the existing documents. There are a number of other aspects that slow down the editing/reviewing process, such as screen captures for interface changes and revised instructions for default menu/toolbar items that have been moved, added and removed. Compared to previous documentation revisions there have been massive changes in these areas and there are more to come in the next releases. In addition to the above, the main reason for the delay in docs for version 5 is the tiny number of (overworked) people working on them. We have been very fortunate to have the "Base Handbook" for 5 near completion, thanks to the German language project (mainly Robert Großkopf), who not only created the original, but also did most of the "heavy lifting" translating it into English. The short answer to your question is that the 5 docs are not much more that a dot on the horizon, so go with the 4.2 docs for now. > Dave > -- > The world is my coloring book; I just can't stay within the lines. > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 02:50 PM, Brian Barker wrote: >> At 13:58 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: >>> ... would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs >>> for Calc and Base? >> >> Why print them? Do you have access to a computer? If so, you can >> search the documentation and read it on your display! >> >> Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
At 13:58 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: ... would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs for Calc and Base? Why print them? Do you have access to a computer? If so, you can search the documentation and read it on your display! Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 5 Documentation
Brian, Well, I tried that. The problem was all the marks and words I made on the monitor (crib notes) - they ruined my monitor :-)) . Actually, that is the point. I tend to write things in the margins to clarify a point, or an example, etc. Tough to do that with the PDF version. In any event, the Ver. 5 docs. are not out yet, so we come back to my question - how close are the 4.2 docs? I looked at the change log, but I never get a good feel for the changes until I start using something. In the case of Calc, the changes to areas I need seem to be minor. Dave -- The world is my coloring book; I just can't stay within the lines. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, at 02:50 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > At 13:58 14/09/2015 -0400, Dave Boland wrote: > >... would it be worth going to the bother of printing the 4.2 docs > >for Calc and Base? > > Why print them? Do you have access to a computer? If so, you can > search the documentation and read it on your display! > > Brian Barker > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
