Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-06 Thread Glenn
I agree. The personal vendettas are better sorted out by other means. Let's leave it to posting helpful advice for LibreOffice users. () On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:44 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: These lists are *really*

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/4/2011 7:15 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: No I wouldn't. I've heard them all, including Why shouldn't I shut down the computer by just pushing the on-off button?. I've been shutting down my PC like that ever since I can remember, so whats your point?. One more thing. Learn not to over

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-05 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: These lists are *really* getting annoying, with all of the infighting, unnecessarily harsh criticism, and just downright rude and arrogant replies. I generally attribute this sort of thing to bad days on the part

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Robert, Before I get to my responses, some comments. I'm going to write my comments in blue. I don't know if the color will be retained as the message goes through the system, but if it does, it will make it easier to know which of my comments are for this submission. As Strother Martin

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: Hi, Robert, way too long to include Do the words Edit your replies to leave out what isn't relevant mean anything in this discussion? You do know that this stuff is all archived and therefore need NOT be included in

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/2011 08:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: I'm going to write my comments in blue. What does blue sound like? I don't know if the colour will be be retained as the message goes through the system, The only safe assumption that can be made, is

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 04/02/2011 12:01, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Please can we stop posting criticisms of Ken's opinions? But his reasoning as to why he doesn't advocate FOSS is flawed. His given reasons are spurious and don't hold up in real life. That's the point... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Good morning, Jonathon, On 02/04/2011 08:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: I'm going to write my comments in blue. What does blue sound like? Just to be a smarta** this morning, I'm going to say it sounds like New Orleans Jazz, where people often sing the blues. LOL I don't know if the

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: just because something CAN be done does not mean it SHOULD be done. This applies to so many places in our world today. -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Good morning, Tom, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Please can we stop posting criticisms of Ken's opinions? We don't all agree with each other, at least hopefully not! Hearing a different point of view is important and if people feel

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Good morning again, Gordon, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote: His given reasons are spurious and don't hold up in real life. That's the point... Doesn't this mean that your real life experiences are different than mine? --

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Tom, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Do we have to criticise people or their ideas? This applies to venues other than Libre Office. :-( The world seems to be evolving to a point where different groups simply believe their way is the only way,

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Sigrid, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] As part of this discussion, knowledge and education, more accurately a lack of knowledge and education, I have no idea what that represents! :-) If I were to hazard a guess, I would

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
This discussion is so off-topic it doesn't even belong on this email list any more. Can you/we at least put it in a different topic thread with a big [OT] in front so we can skip it from the summary list? Ken, could you possibly stop using so much vertical space and shorten your 14-line

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote: On 04-02-11 17:29, Ken Springer wrote: [...] :o :o :o        !8-) This thread should be about LibreOffice, and not about how to use an emailclient... Thank you, Luuk. It should also be noted that this thread is not for making a

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:24 AM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion is so off-topic it doesn't even belong on this email list any more. Can you/we at least put it in a different topic thread with a big [OT] in front so we can skip it from the summary list? Ken, could you

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 4 February 2011 09:36, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: Good morning, Gordon, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote: But that applies to ALL applications, whether FOSS or proprietary. In my personal experience in large corporations, 75%

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Ken Springer
Good afternoon, Mr ZenWiz On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. That was so helpful I just can't describe it. When I read your reply, I was perplexed, and took your comment as a bit less than civil, and did not understand why. But thanks to the

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 08:49:30AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: .snip And only Bob Holtzman's reply tweaked my sensibilities, as the saying goes. But I didn't want to fall into the Tom and Dick story line I posted, so I sat back for a couple hours before writing my

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:29:47AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: And I prefer HTML. It makes it easier when people send you an email that has inline photos of the grandkid or something else they find interesting. I've used email clients in the past that didn't support HTML. To me, we each

Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: way too much material to quote Having a bad day? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you.  That was so helpful I just can't describe it. When I read your reply, I was perplexed, and took your comment as a bit less than civil,

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Scott Jones srjone...@gmail.com wrote: Ok.  You people are so off topic. Grow up and move on! raspberry -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are

[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Ken Springer
I've been reading the different pages of the Document Foundation, and am wondering about the two programs in the subject line. Are there any differences between the two programs? -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Davies
. LibreOffice has a portable and cloud based version, OpenOffice doesn't. Regards from Tom :) From: Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 17:45:02 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice I've

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Ken Springer
...@dishmail.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 17:45:02 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice I've been reading the different pages of the Document Foundation, and am wondering about the two programs in the subject line. Are there any differences between the two

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Marius Popa
...@dishmail.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 17:45:02 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice I've been reading the different pages of the Document Foundation, and am wondering about the two programs in the subject line. Are there any differences between

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Tom Davies wrote (03-02-11 19:07) LibreOffice has a portable and cloud based version, OpenOffice doesn't. Wrong. Oracle has a cloud office version, working with ODF. Good change that LibreOffice / The Document Foundation will find the cloud too, but at the moment? No. Regards, Cor -- -

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:14, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: ... Where is the best place to join to express why I will NOT recommend Libre Office to my friends?  My issues generally apply to all open source software, not just Libre Office. I do just the opposite. I would love to

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Ken Springer
Hi , Tom, Likewise, I used to encourage the use of open source software also. And on a personal level, I always try to find an open source program for my use. And my issue is not with the software itself. Even though my impression is the software is sometimes slightly buggier, the problems

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 02/03/2011 02:10 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Tom Davies wrote (03-02-11 19:07) LibreOffice has a portable and cloud based version, OpenOffice doesn't. Wrong. Oracle has a cloud office version, working with ODF. Good change that LibreOffice / The Document Foundation will find the cloud too, but

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 16:22, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 02/03/2011 02:10 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: ... The problem with Cloud systems is that when you do not have reliable access to the Internet, it is no good or even very bad, ... I have to do my

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought this http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable worked on the Cloud? Regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 19:10:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Tom Davies
marius.mar...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 18:59:56 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice What is the name of the LibreOffice cloud-based version? On 3 February 2011 20:07, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Some differences not many

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2011-02-03 17:31, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I thought this http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable worked on the Cloud? Regards from Tom :) Does it work on the cloud? If you talk about the weather, yes. Seriously, the PortableApps application, including LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Chris Carpenter
Hi, let me give my two cents: I believe the confusion comes from the fact that the PortableApps folks put in their description of the LibreOffice Portable product that it runs from a cloud drive which basically just means that it can run from a network share. This does indeed work (and fairly

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-03 Thread Ken Springer
The Cloud, Internet based help files, etc. do rely on having high speed internet. I believe too many developers labor under the belief that virtually everyone in the US has DSL or cable modem. And sadly, the US lags behind other areas of the world in this regard. Myself, I have two choices,

[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice and openoffice issues

2011-01-24 Thread Andreas Moroder
Hello, does the people that work on libreoffice also check the issues on http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/ and work on them or is there a issues site on libreoffice ? I have an important ( to me ) issue ( http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115251 ) and have the feeling that no one at