Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-28 Thread Dave Stevens 

Quoting elderdanlewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com>:






 Original message 
From: Dave Stevens <g...@uniserve.com>
Date:03/25/2016  9:39 PM  (GMT-05:00)
To: Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

Quoting Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com>:


On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Bruce Byfield wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:

This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!


An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on
tablets than pdf.


I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting
highly-formatted material
to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.


Calibre <http://calibre-ebook.com/> is an open source ebook manager
which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to
various formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the
most I've done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to
AZW3 to read on a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On
the Kindle, images are scaled to fit on the page, but a
press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged to full screen and zoomed
in further to see detail. I don't know how well it does with
complex documents, but may be worth trying.


 I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from
ODT to ePUB format.

Dan


I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right,
but there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.

D



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   You are correct. For a good conversion between formats, you need  
to use the editor component of calibre. With this, the styles can be  
corrected. It takes several hours to do this. Using search and  
replace can make it quicker. Regular expressions can be used to make  
it even quicker. Patience and practice will help too.
I have written a document about how to use calibre to do this,  
but it needs to be updated. Is someone needing this?


Dan


why not post it anyway Dan, with caveat if necessary, and let folks  
see what needs doing, it might be useful anyway.


Dave






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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-27 Thread elderdanlewis 




 Original message 
From: Dave Stevens <g...@uniserve.com> 
Date:03/25/2016  9:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com> 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book 

Quoting Dan Lewis <elderdanle...@gmail.com>:

> On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>> Bruce Byfield wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:
>>>> On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
>>>>> This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
>>>>> but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
>>>>> chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!
>>>>
>>>> An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on  
>>>> tablets than pdf.
>>>
>>> I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting  
>>> highly-formatted material
>>> to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.
>>>
>>> If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.
>>
>> Calibre <http://calibre-ebook.com/> is an open source ebook manager  
>> which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to  
>> various formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the  
>> most I've done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to  
>> AZW3 to read on a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On  
>> the Kindle, images are scaled to fit on the page, but a  
>> press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged to full screen and zoomed  
>> in further to see detail. I don't know how well it does with  
>> complex documents, but may be worth trying.
>>
>  I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from  
> ODT to ePUB format.
>
> Dan

I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right,  
but there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.

D

>
> -- 

   You are correct. For a good conversion between formats, you need to use the 
editor component of calibre. With this, the styles can be corrected. It takes 
several hours to do this. Using search and replace can make it quicker. Regular 
expressions can be used to make it even quicker. Patience and practice will 
help too.
I have written a document about how to use calibre to do this, but it needs 
to be updated. Is someone needing this? 

Dan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-26 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
A few years ago the Documentation Team did a lot of trialling converters to
ePub format(s?) but none were quite up to the job.

At best quite a bit of tinkering had to be done before or/and after the
initial conversion.  I'm fairly sure Dan was one of, quite possibly THE
main person, working on trying to get the conversions as smooth as
possible.  For those who don't know, Dan has many years experience in the
professional publishing industry (as have many in the tiny Documentation
Team) as well as some really great work in the Documentation Team.

If anyone has had some success, particularly in the last couple of years,
in converting anything to ePub then right now could be a good time for 'us'
to have another bash at it.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 26 March 2016 at 01:39, Dave Stevens  wrote:

> Quoting Dan Lewis :
>
> On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Byfield wrote:
>>>
 On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

> On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
>
>> This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
>> but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
>> chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!
>>
>
> An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on tablets
> than pdf.
>

 I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting highly-formatted
 material
 to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

 If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.

>>>
>>> Calibre  is an open source ebook manager
>>> which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to various
>>> formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the most I've done
>>> is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to AZW3 to read on a
>>> Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On the Kindle, images are
>>> scaled to fit on the page, but a press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged
>>> to full screen and zoomed in further to see detail. I don't know how well
>>> it does with complex documents, but may be worth trying.
>>>
>>>  I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from ODT
>> to ePUB format.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
> I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right, but
> there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.
>
> D
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread Dave Stevens 

Quoting Dan Lewis :


On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Bruce Byfield wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:

This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!


An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on  
tablets than pdf.


I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting  
highly-formatted material

to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.


Calibre  is an open source ebook manager  
which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to  
various formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the  
most I've done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to  
AZW3 to read on a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On  
the Kindle, images are scaled to fit on the page, but a  
press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged to full screen and zoomed  
in further to see detail. I don't know how well it does with  
complex documents, but may be worth trying.


 I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from  
ODT to ePUB format.


Dan


I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right,  
but there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.


D



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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread Dan Lewis 

On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Bruce Byfield wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:

This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!


An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on tablets 
than pdf.


I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting highly-formatted 
material

to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.


Calibre  is an open source ebook manager 
which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to 
various formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the 
most I've done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to AZW3 
to read on a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On the 
Kindle, images are scaled to fit on the page, but a press-and-hold 
allows them to be enlarged to full screen and zoomed in further to see 
detail. I don't know how well it does with complex documents, but may 
be worth trying.


 I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from ODT 
to ePUB format.


Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread libreoffice-ml . mbourne 

Bruce Byfield wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:

This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!


An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on tablets than pdf.


I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting highly-formatted material
to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.


Calibre  is an open source ebook manager 
which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to various 
formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the most I've 
done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to AZW3 to read on 
a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On the Kindle, images 
are scaled to fit on the page, but a press-and-hold allows them to be 
enlarged to full screen and zoomed in further to see detail. I don't 
know how well it does with complex documents, but may be worth trying.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread Bruce Byfield 
On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:
> On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
> > This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
> > but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
> > chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!
> 
> An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on tablets than pdf.

I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting highly-formatted material 
to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.

-- 
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Writer of "Designing with LibreOffice" 
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread Dave Liesse 
This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet, but 
I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of 
chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!


Dave Liesse


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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker 

Hi Bruce!

how strange: I was wondering lately how your book was going...

Le 24/03/2016 18:22, Bruce Byfield a écrit :

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 08:04:58 AM CVAlkan wrote:


The book is also featured on Jean Hollis Weber's site
http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2016/03/new-book-designing-with-libreoffic
e/ since she appears to be one of the editors/reviewers.


Thanks for the kind words!

Jean commissioned the book through her nonprofit, Friends of OpenDocument. She
has also worked long hours to copy edit and proofread, and, more recently, to
promote. I couldn't have had a better editor, and the book is much improved
for her involvement.



I'm glad you had it put together. As already said, your book is really 
filling a big gap and shows the actual strengths of LibreOffice. This 
will tremendously help trainers introducing our office suite of choice 
in a very concrete manner.


I've placed an order for the printed book :) and I am looking forward to 
get my hands on it. In the meantime, I've downloaded the ods files so 
that I can have a first look (I prefer printed matter when it comes to 
big documents; electronic version is, IMO, not very suited to thorough 
reading).


Thanks, thanks, thanks,
Keep on the very good job!
Greetings from the other side of the pond,
--
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-24 Thread Bruce Byfield 
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 08:04:58 AM CVAlkan wrote:
 
> The book is also featured on Jean Hollis Weber's site
> http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2016/03/new-book-designing-with-libreoffic
> e/ since she appears to be one of the editors/reviewers.

Thanks for the kind words!

Jean commissioned the book through her nonprofit, Friends of OpenDocument. She 
has also worked long hours to copy edit and proofread, and, more recently, to 
promote. I couldn't have had a better editor, and the book is much improved 
for her involvement.

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Writer of "Designing with LibreOffice" 
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com



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[libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-24 Thread CVAlkan 
For those who may have missed it, I would like to recommend a new book by
Bruce Byfield called "Designing with LibreOffice." I have absolutely no
connection whatever to this author or book, by the way.

As with the normal LibreOffice manuals, the book can be purchased as a
paperback or downloaded free as a pdf or odt document (with an optional
contribution, of course) at
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/download-buy/

Bruce approaches LibreOffice not from the standpoint of menu functions and
such, as the manuals do and should do, but as a document design and creation
tutorial. This approach serves to show the purpose of LO's features and how
to use them effectively. There are numerous tips throughout the book that
are obviously the result of much use of the product's components. His
discussion of styles, their importance, and their use is as good as any I've
run across.

This results-driven approach is also valuable because the author not only
isn't shy about suggesting which features of LO are best avoided for one
reason or another, but offers alternatives to achieving the desired
objectives in such cases.

The best compliment I can give the book is to say that I learned quite a bit
about some of the capabilities of Writer and Calc that I wasn't aware of at
all, and ended up with a much better understanding of how to take greater
advantage of features I've been using for years.

The book is also featured on Jean Hollis Weber's site
http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2016/03/new-book-designing-with-libreoffice/
since she appears to be one of the editors/reviewers.




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