But Ooo/LO does use structure markup. All .odt/.ods documents are XML
files.
XML is just syntax. It does not necessarily imply structure markup, as
shown by e.g. .docx and .odt. Just unzip an .odt document and open
contents.xml in a XML editor to see what spaghetti xml looks like.
Sincerely,
that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer
for anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf
I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO
Writer to convert doc into pdf appears to me like using a tractor to
participate in a F1 race or
On 10/15/2012 07:48 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer
for anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf
I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO
Writer to convert doc into pdf appears to me like
Il 10/10/2012 06:11, rost52 ha scritto:
On 2012-10-09 18:50, Marcello Romani wrote:
that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer for
anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf
I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO
Writer to
On 10/10/2012 12:11 AM, rost52 wrote:
On 2012-10-09 18:50, Marcello Romani wrote:
that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer for
anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf
I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO
Writer to convert
Il 08/10/2012 14:13, John Clegg ha scritto:
OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't opening an
in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
So that when the user would try to save it a Save As dialog would appear ?
Sounds good to me.
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Am 09.10.2012 09:14, Marcello Romani wrote:
Il 08/10/2012 14:13, John Clegg ha scritto:
OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't
opening an
in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
So that when the user would try to save it a Save As dialog would appear ?
Il 09/10/2012 11:18, Andreas Säger ha scritto:
Am 09.10.2012 09:14, Marcello Romani wrote:
Il 08/10/2012 14:13, John Clegg ha scritto:
OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't
opening an
in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
So that when the user would
Forgive me, but I thought one of the aims of LO was improvements to
usability. I open emails mailed to me dozens of times a day. Doing Save-As,
or clicking the edit button takes little time I agree, but why is it so
wrong to desire that as the default to save me time?
On 9 October 2012 10:18,
Hi :)
+1
Regards from
Tom :)
--- On Tue, 9/10/12, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote:
From: Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Il 07/10/2012 20:32, Wolfgang Keller ha scritto:
Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
line of text, slide title, list item, figure, etc. to get
Am 09.10.2012 11:24, John Clegg wrote:
Forgive me, but I thought one of the aims of LO was improvements to
usability. I open emails mailed to me dozens of times a day. Doing Save-As,
or clicking the edit button takes little time I agree, but why is it so
wrong to desire that as the default to
On 2012-10-09 18:50, Marcello Romani wrote:
that's the way it is and that's why currently I don't use LO Writer for
anything else than for converting .doc files to .pdf
I might just be something a little bit above a IT moron but using LO Writer to convert doc into pdf
appears to me like using a
On 2012-10-09 18:24, John Clegg wrote:
Forgive me, but I thought one of the aims of LO was improvements to
usability. I open emails mailed to me dozens of times a day. Doing Save-As,
or clicking the edit button takes little time I agree, but why is it so
wrong to desire that as the default to
Il 05/10/2012 17:18, Marcello Romani ha scritto:
Il 05/10/2012 16:31, webmaster-Kracked_P_P ha scritto:
On 10/05/2012 10:10 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
Il 05/10/2012 11:07, John Clegg ha scritto:
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO
behaves
differently. If I open
OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't opening an
in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
On 8 October 2012 13:08, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote:
Il 05/10/2012 17:18, Marcello Romani ha scritto:
Il 05/10/2012 16:31, webmaster-Kracked_P_P ha
Am 08.10.2012 14:13, John Clegg wrote:
OK, if I accept everything that has been said, then why wouldn't opening an
in-memory r/w copy be the sensible default action?
Tell your mail client, browser, whatever to call soffice with the -n
switch. The -n switch treats every document as if it were
Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
line of text, slide title, list item, figure, etc. to get
everything the way you want it, you just
On 07/10/2012 at 20:32, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
The point with MS Word, as (unfortunately) with LO Writer is, that,
unlike e.g. Wordperfect or FrameMaker their document model is thoroughly
unstructured (spaghetti), and the way styles are implemented they do
not allow to
But Ooo/LO does use structure markup. All .odt/.ods documents are XML files.
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
Instead of
Greetings,
This thread has been ongoing for a relatively long time now and IMHO it
has forked many times and veared off of its original message: that MS
was to start renting their software and the lock on users that that
implies. Well, as we have been debating all these forked threads, there
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
Read-only is the only sensible way to open other people's files (web
downloads, mail attachments).
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On 10/6/2012 6:13 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
Read-only is the only sensible way to open other people's files (web
downloads, mail attachments).
Why?
What if I want to edit it? Are you outlawing
On 10/06/2012 11:37 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 10/6/2012 6:13 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
Read-only is the only sensible way to open other people's files (web
downloads, mail attachments).
Why?
What
Whilst a condom is always wise I still prefer to put it on for
myself
On 6 October 2012 18:13, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/06/2012 11:37 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 10/6/2012 6:13 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/06/2012 11:37 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 10/6/2012 6:13 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
Read-only is the only sensible way to open other people's files (web
downloads, mail
On 06/10/2012 at 19:27, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
I am still not sure how one gets an infection from saving a file as
writable. on a Linux system it's not executable, not sure how it works
on Windows.
how would infection occur?
It's rather that in read-only mode, office suite
Am 06.10.2012 19:16, John Clegg wrote:
Whilst a condom is always wise I still prefer to put it on for
myself
If you prefer to not choose anything, the other side will take her own
precautions.
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you explicitly
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 06/10/2012 at 19:27, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
I am still not sure how one gets an infection from saving a file as
writable. on a Linux system it's not executable, not sure how it works
on Windows.
how would infection occur?
It's
Am 06.10.2012 19:59, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 06/10/2012 at 19:27, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
I am still not sure how one gets an infection from saving a file as
writable. on a Linux system it's not executable, not sure how it
works on
On 10/06/2012 01:27 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/06/2012 11:37 AM, Spencer Graves wrote:
On 10/6/2012 6:13 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 05.10.2012 14:09, John Clegg wrote:
I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
Read-only is the only sensible way to open
On 04/10/2012 at 12:54, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:
I am missing (compared to MSO) a few features
in IMPRESS badly
Could you tell which features do you mean, exactly?
I am always interested in such comparisons. People all over the web say LO is
missing some features, but such
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO behaves
differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it places a
copy in the download folder/directory and Calc always opens it read-only
whereas Excel opens it as read-write. I would like at least an option to
get
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Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 10:07
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users]
Re: MS raised prices so people will now start renting their office products
instead
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO behaves
differently. If I open a spreadsheet from
On 05/10/12 10:07, John Clegg wrote:
whereas Excel opens it as read-write.
That behaviour has changed in MS Office 2010 - email attachments are
opened as read-only by default..
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I thought LO was emulating MSO 97??
On 5 October 2012 13:00, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/10/12 10:07, John Clegg wrote:
whereas Excel opens it as read-write.
That behaviour has changed in MS Office 2010 - email attachments are
opened as read-only by default..
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Il 29/09/2012 20:10, Wolfgang Keller ha scritto:
- actually useful formatting concepts for presentations like e.g.
LaTeX Beamer provides.
Could you elaborate? I don't know Beamer (I have heard the name, but
never really used it) and I am interested in knowing what it has to
offer that LO is
On 10/05/2012 10:10 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
Il 05/10/2012 11:07, John Clegg ha scritto:
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO
behaves
differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it
places a
copy in the download folder/directory and Calc always
Il 05/10/2012 16:31, webmaster-Kracked_P_P ha scritto:
On 10/05/2012 10:10 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
Il 05/10/2012 11:07, John Clegg ha scritto:
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO
behaves
differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it
places a
On 10/05/2012 05:07 AM, John Clegg wrote:
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO behaves
differently. If I open a spreadsheet from an email or the web it places a
copy in the download folder/directory and Calc always opens it read-only
whereas Excel opens it as
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Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 18:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
On 10/05/2012 05:07 AM, John Clegg wrote:
One feature I miss isn't actually a feature in MSO as such, but LO behaves
differently. If I
On 2012-10-03 11:41, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we need to focus on the 90%
of average users. Basically, I think LO should be making sure it can do everything that MS
Office 97
On 03/10/2012 11:58, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/02/2012 07:19 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
Jay Lozier wrote:
snip
From the comments on the list, the weakest part of LO is Base. However,
my observation is most people find learning any true database daunting
and thus do not learn how to use any
Am 03.10.2012 09:23, HBarr wrote:
Hi, I am a database user and emphasis on the word *user*. I like
learning new stuff too and Base is a challenge. I want LObase to work so
I will contribute feedback whenever I can but no more than that because
I haven't learnt to code or programme...yet. I
On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we
need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO
should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97
(15-year-old software) could do, and do it just as well and
On 10/03/2012 05:41 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we
need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO
should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97
On 10/03/2012 11:28 AM, Chad Homan wrote:
I should be following this tread more closely. But does anyone have links
to any M$ sites
that spell out the details of the rentals? Also, what happens to people
using older versions
of office (like officeXP, etc). Will they roll forward into this
Hi :)
Yeh, people are weird sometimes. I'm sure some people would have peaceful
pro-war protests or fight for peace given half a chance.
One client group claimed they didn't know how to use Save As ... so i sent
them screen-shots and then the month after i even visited them to show them by
:)
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From: Chad Homan cho...@gmail.com
To: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012, 16:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products
On 10/03/2012 01:20 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
/snip/
One commenter noted that most SOHO users do not need the collaboration
features in MSO (or any office suite). Also, I am not sure that many
of the collaboration features are used extensively in large
organizations.sides.
I guess I don't
On 03/10/2012 at 20:23, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
I guess I don't understand something here. Almost 20 years ago, I wrote
user manuals for equipment I designed, and had the software
engineer modify them as required for the user programming requirements.
(This was for
On 2012-10-03 22:41, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 02/10/12 19:38, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we
need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO
should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97
Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/02/2012 07:19 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
snip
Girvin,
Most people I have talked to about databases find them less intuitive
than other typical office and general software.
Jay,
Yes, I can agree to that. Working with databases is not plug-n-play.
It
On 10/03/2012 02:23 PM, Doug wrote:
On 10/03/2012 01:20 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
/snip/
One commenter noted that most SOHO users do not need the
collaboration features in MSO (or any office suite). Also, I am not
sure that many of the collaboration features are used extensively in
large
Il 24/09/2012 17:15, Mirosław Zalewski ha scritto:
On 24/09/2012 at 16:48, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
wrote:
We need to keep it with the
needed options for the 90% average users and not for those that are in
the last 10% or even those in the last 1% or less users that
Il 18/09/2012 21:38, Jay Lozier ha scritto:
[...]
The rental model, in theory,
guarantees a stabler cash flow whether the software rental is good for
users is another matter.
I totally agree.
At $WORK we had a 3D CAD package that would not work anymore if the
licence was not renewed
, they just need to make a profit)
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 7:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting
, in whatever current or previous version the user
prefers (security patches aside).
From: Marcello Romani
mrom...@ottotecnica.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent:
Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 7:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re:
MS raised prices so
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we
need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO
should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97
(15-year-old software) could do, and do it just as well and just as
easily. If LO could do THAT,
On 10/02/2012 02:38 PM, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing features. But I DO think we
need to focus on the 90% of average users. Basically, I think LO
should be making sure it can do everything that MS Office 97
(15-year-old software) could do, and do it just as well
The only other addition to MSO-97 would be the 2007/2010/2013 versions
of their x formats and any other file formats that might be used now
by MSO or other software.
On 10/02/2012 03:55 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 10/02/2012 02:38 PM, Tim Deaton wrote:
I don't think we need to remove existing
Jay Lozier wrote:
snip
From the comments on the list, the weakest part of LO is Base. However,
my observation is most people find learning any true database daunting
and thus do not learn how to use any database. Compounding this is the
fact many MSO packages do not include Access. Many thus
On 10/02/2012 07:19 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
Jay Lozier wrote:
snip
From the comments on the list, the weakest part of LO is Base. However,
my observation is most people find learning any true database daunting
and thus do not learn how to use any database. Compounding this is the
fact
Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-09-27 3:08 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/09/12 12:01, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I have seen listings on Mozilla's archive system for an extension to
help with the syncing to a Google account.
Don't need any of those for Google Calendar
On 30/09/12 16:55, James Knott wrote:
I just tried those directions with Thunderbird Lightning, without
the provider. The calendar won't sync.
Been using the CalDav method for about six months now, ever since I
started getting problems with the Google Calendar add-in.
Works perfectly OK her
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 30/09/12 16:55, James Knott wrote:
I just tried those directions with Thunderbird Lightning, without
the provider. The calendar won't sync.
Been using the CalDav method for about six months now, ever since I
started getting problems with the Google Calendar
On 30/09/12 17:08, James Knott wrote:
There's an exclamation mark in a yellow triangle on my Google
calendar. When I move the mouse pointer over the calendar, I get a pop
up The calendar Google is momentarily not available.
That's exactly was happening to me with the Google Calendar add-in!
May I suggest to discuss the Google calender issue in a different thread?
On 2012-09-30 19:17, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 2012-10-01 05:12, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 30/09/12 17:08, James Knott wrote:
There's an exclamation mark in a yellow triangle on my Google calendar. When I move the
- actually useful formatting concepts for presentations like e.g.
LaTeX Beamer provides.
Could you elaborate? I don't know Beamer (I have heard the name, but
never really used it) and I am interested in knowing what it has to
offer that LO is not capable of.
Everything that you get from
As an engineer, now retired, I used BASIC for many years, then took
a class in Pascal and wrote some code in Pascal. You are correct--
all I wanted, in almost all cases, was command-line input and screen
or print (or both) output. I first wrote BASIC on a teletype machine
connected by
On 29/09/2012 at 20:10, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
Everything that you get from LaTeX: structure markup instead of
spaghetti formatting, parameterized formatting, etc...
Instead of clicking through dozens of dialogboxes for each and every
line of text, slide title, list item,
On 18/09/2012 at 20:13, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
Note, too, that the old argument, I bought it,
so it's mine, will be out the window--if it's rented, it clearly
is not yours to copy, etc.
As far as I remember, it was never yours. Most EULAs forbid e.g.
reselling of box
What language one first learns is often determined by what is used in
the Introduction to Programming courses and of course when you took
the course. I know a few colleges used VB for their introductory
course in the States.
If I was looking for a university for studying computer science,
On 09/28/2012 03:46 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
On 18/09/2012 at 20:13, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
Note, too, that the old argument, I bought it,
so it's mine, will be out the window--if it's rented, it clearly
is not yours to copy, etc.
As far as I remember, it was never yours.
On 24/09/12 20:03, James Knott wrote:
Syncing Lightning with Google Calendar requires an add-on such as
Provider for Google Calendar.
No it doesn't - and the latest version of Calendar Sync is a bit flakey.
You can use Caldav instead which doesn't need an add-on.
On 26/09/12 12:01, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I have seen listings on Mozilla's archive system for an extension to
help with the syncing to a Google account.
Don't need any of those for Google Calendar - you can use Caldav which
doesn't require any extension at all.
All the best LibO folks,
This discussion about calendars etc. may be interesting perhaps also
useful -- but back to the basic question!
Microsoft is going to change their behavior.
Let us remember that MS is the absolute market leader -- they can't be
totally wrong when having 95% and people
, 14:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
All the best LibO folks,
This discussion about calendars etc. may be interesting perhaps also useful --
but back to the basic question!
Microsoft is going to change
On 27/09/12 13:16, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-09-27 3:08 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/09/12 12:01, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I have seen listings on Mozilla's archive system for an extension to
help with the syncing to a Google account.
Don't need any of those
On 2012-09-27 10:14 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
If you click on the Sunbird link it also says Lightning - I'm using it
here in Lightning 1.7
Ah, ok, thanks...
Hmmm... we are using Thunderbird ESR here at the office, and it is stuck
at Lightning 1.2.3... I wonder what
: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
On 26/09/12 12:01, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
I have seen listings on Mozilla's archive system for an extension to help
with the syncing to a Google account.
Don't need any of those for Google Calendar - you
:)
*From:* Pertti Rönnberg p...@elisanet.fi
*To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Thursday, 27 September 2012, 14:04
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people
will now start renting their office products instead
All
September 2012, 14:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now
start renting their office products instead
All the best LibO folks,
This discussion about calendars etc. may be interesting
perhaps also useful -- but back to the basic question!
Microsoft
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012, 18:27
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
Hi Tom,
Thank you for a very informative
On 09/27/2012 09:04 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:
All the best LibO folks,
This discussion about calendars etc. may be interesting perhaps also
useful -- but back to the basic question!
Microsoft is going to change their behavior.
Let us remember that MS is the absolute market leader -- they
On 09/24/2012 03:03 PM, James Knott wrote:
Tom Davies wrote:
For my colleagues it would be nice to have a Calendar that is easier
to find and integrate, for example. But i haven't found any sort of
calendar, either on-screen or off, that works for me
I use Lightning with Thunderbird and
My guess the group that complains the most about switching because of
macros would be the second group
Objection.
The point is that those people who actually use office software in
companies have absolutely no influence on what they work with. It's the
manangsters and administrictators who
Most features one needs have been include in office suites since the
some time in the 90's. I can not think of a feature that I want see
implemented that is not already implemented.
Objection.
instead of braindeadly cloning MS features, which are mostly based on
cerebral flatulances emanating
On 25/09/2012 at 17:52, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
- actually useful formatting concepts for presentations like e.g. LaTeX
Beamer provides.
Could you elaborate? I don't know Beamer (I have heard the name, but never
really used it) and I am interested in knowing what it has to
mini...@poczta.onet.pl
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2012, 17:37
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
On 25/09/2012 at 17:52, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
- actually useful
On 09/25/2012 11:51 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
My guess the group that complains the most about switching because of
macros would be the second group
Objection.
The point is that those people who actually use office software in
companies have absolutely no influence on what they work with.
On 09/25/2012 11:51 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
My guess the group that complains the most about switching because of
macros would be the second group
Objection.
The point is that those people who actually use office software in
companies have absolutely no influence on what they work with.
On 18/09/12 20:38, Jay Lozier wrote:
I suspect most users do not use much outside the common core features
of any office suite (LO, AOO, MSO, etc)
You suspect correctly. In any organisation, home use etc, the usual
statistic is that 80% of users only use 20% of the functionality
(I'm a
.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2012, 11:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
one but i'm sure it
was from the MS site.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2012, 11:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now
On 09/24/2012 06:11 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 18/09/12 20:38, Jay Lozier wrote:
I suspect most users do not use much outside the common core features
of any office suite (LO, AOO, MSO, etc)
You suspect correctly. In any organisation, home use etc, the usual
statistic is that 80% of
.
From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2012, 11:11
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now
start renting their office products instead
On 18/09/12 20:38, Jay Lozier wrote:
I suspect
:)
From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 24 September 2012, 13:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
On 09/24/2012 06:42 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS raised prices so people will now start
renting their office products instead
On 09/24/2012 06:11 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
On 18/09/12 20:38, Jay Lozier wrote:
I suspect most users do not use much outside the common core features
of any office
On 09/24/2012 09:17 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 24/09/2012 at 14:31, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
I can not think of a feature that I want see
implemented that is not already implemented.
Lucky you.
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