Again, thanks for responding.
You say "Being a software localizer myself I use bidi control characters all
the time, and have explained them to many localizer over the years and they
seem to grasp the concept quickly and appreciate it.", so I have to wonder
whether your perspective may result from
> Re: "paragraph direction and alignment are two different things." Certainly
> true (and, from many discussions here and elsewhere, it's obvious to me
> that
> anyone who cares about such things already knows this as well) but, I
> think,
> misses the primary point, which is to eliminate a bizarre
Khaled:
Re: "paragraph direction and alignment are two different things." Certainly
true (and, from many discussions here and elsewhere, it's obvious to me that
anyone who cares about such things already knows this as well) but, I think,
misses the primary point, which is to eliminate a bizarre an
A bit late to the party…
> Unfortunately (in my view anyway), the algorithm itself makes some
> assumptions
> that I find unjustifiable. A primary example is the categorization of
> certain
> "shared characters" (spaces, punctuation and so forth) as neutral, and
> accompanying
> that with the ide
On 24/11/16 10:35, CVAlkan wrote:
> What's the program and language you're looking at?
FontMatrix, and C++, respectively.
> But consider this my encouragement for whatever that's worth; I'm also
> willing to experiment with whatever you come up with if you need another
I cloned it to my GitHub
A couple questions ...
What's the program and language you're looking at? Even though I doubt I
could assist, I'd still like to be able to read through what already exists
in a never-ending quest to get a handle on this subject (which is far more
complex than I originally envisioned, although I'm
On 28/10/16 22:26, CVAlkan wrote:
> Would love to see it when you have a prototype ...
Instead of creating a program from scratch, I'm going to modify an
existing one. The downside is that I have to learn another programming
language. Along the way, I'll also have to fix some existing bugs in
tha
Dotan:
I'm sorry I never stumbled across your essay before, but thanks for an
excellent explanation of how the Unicode® Standard Annex #9/Unicode
Bidirectional Algorithm works *in actual practice*!
So far as I can see, your description is still valid for even the recently
updated version of that
Jonathon (and Jonathan):Here is a pdf containing a better explanation of how
to HELP avoid unnecessary font substitutions in LibreOffice Writer and other
applications. The primary cause of this to be using fonts that either don't
have or don't correctly report their coverage and other capabilities
Would love to see it when you have a prototype ...
As I said in the comments, I started with a quick and dirty shell script,
having no idea how big it would get, but by the time I realized I should
have begun with a "real" language it was a little late.
If I can do any testing and can find the ti
On 28/10/2016 19:25, CVAlkan wrote:
> I've attempted to upload my shell script using the More button;
Thanks.
> heavily commented (as much for my own benefit as anything).
If a script is not commented, then nobody knows what it is supposed to do.
> That helps when choosing a font that Writer
I've attempted to upload my shell script using the More button; it is very
heavily commented (as much for my own benefit as anything). As a quick trial
you can make it executable and then type, for instance:
FindFont thai greek
or
FindFont hindi persian hebrew
The first will list all the fonts th
On 27/10/2016 14:55, CVAlkan wrote:
> answer to your question might be: if you were to fix all of those things,
> you probably wouldn't encounter the unwarranted and unexpected font
> substitutions.
If it wasn't so big, Unifont would make a good test case.
Maybe I can figure out how to do bulk e
A very good question but, depending on what you mean specifically by "foundry
data" I'm afraid I don't know that it will. My best guess is that it will
**improve the chances that it will**, but there are many other factors
involved. My understanding of all this is murky at best given the unclear
an
On 26/10/2016 18:36, CVAlkan wrote:
> substituting fonts unnecessarily when you switch, even if you have
> specifically selected a font containing both scripts/languages you are using.
Does the bad font substitution go away, if you manually add foundry data
to the font?
jonathon
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Hi Jonathan:
Welcome to the multi-language war veterans club! Your purple heart is in the
mail.
There IS actually a logic as to how characters are laid out when typing
mixed L-T-R and R-T-L text in a line or sentence, but you need to understand
that most text rendering mechanisms continue to make
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