Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/08/2013 02:04 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:

On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


On 06/07/2013 03:48 PM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?


Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...



fifteen years ago, Kyocera was crap.
I sure hope they improved their stuff since that time.



I think I have seen this brand here in the Northeast USA.


it is one of the main printers I use at work.

it's in the basement and I'm networked to it but mostly I use it 
directly to copy stuff or scan stuff in pdf onto a flashdrive; one can 
also send scanned stuff to a 'mailbox' which can be accessed via a 
browser; you can set this 'public' or 'private'.


the few occasions I 'send' jobs to it it's via CUPS. I do this so 
infrequently I'm not even sure it works but I imagine it does. it 
works fine with another networked printer I use daily at work (an HP 
laser device, b/w, two trays, duplex).


F.

HP is one of the major brands for the big office printer, copier, 
fax, collating, stapling and multi-tray office machine.  There are 
others, but so far it seems that the driver for Ubuntu with HP CUPS 
has the most printer tray and paper/envelope sizes/styles of all of 
the other brands of printers I have tried on my system.


I really think the key will be which brand and model of big office 
printer has the best driver, with the most options, for Linux. That 
is in the subject line after all.  I have had [and have] some nice 
printers that currently have no proper Linux driver[s].  My HP 7000 
wide format will print letter size [8.5 by 11 inches] but will not 
print the 11 by 17 inch paper, for which I bought it.  I have to use 
my Win7 boot of my dual booting laptop to use that printer.









Printer in the basement of the office building - well that is 
inconvenient to print and the go there to pick your prints up.


All of the printers I use are left of my desktop [I am left handed] and 
less than 4 feet away.  If I cannot reach them, I just roll the chair 
over to the printer. I have the HP laser printer and the Canon inkjet on 
the desk high shelf and the wide format printer on a shelf 2 feet over 
top of the laser printer.


My laser printer is an HP laserjet 2300 dn - duplex and network.  It has 
the bottom tray and the fold-out multipurpose tray.  I use the bottom 
tray for the standard copy paper quality paper.  I use the fold-out 
tray for the feeding of 1 to 10 sheets of colored paper, cover stock 
paper, envelopes, and other types of printing.


When I look at the printer's available drivers [i.e. make and model 
driver list]  I get 15 different ones to choose from.  I use the one 
that is named HP Laserjet 2300 pcl3, hpcups 3.13.4.  That one has the 
most options of all the ones I have tried, so far.


NOTE:  I finally got the HP Officejet 7000 wide format printer to work.  
I had to reserve its network IP address in the router table and define 
it.  Then I had to install all of the packages for hplip that was in 
the Synaptic Package Manager that seemed was not installed, or reinstall 
the repository versions, if it looked like a non-repository version was 
installed.  Something was missing, somewhere, but is finally prints the 
11 by 17 inch paper, instead of just the 8.5 by 11 inch type.  It was a 
pain to boot up a Windows partition on my laptop to print my posters and 
newsletters via a PDF file on a flash drive.


I keep the following paper in the printers:

HP Laser 2300dn
--- bottom tray - generic/plain white paper
--- fold-out tray - sometimes color paper or cover stock paper

Canon MG6220 inkjet
-- bottom tray - quality bright white inkjet paper
-- back tray - photo paper
-- printer also prints the labels on the DVD media

HP Officejet 7000 - wide format
-- bottom tray - 11 by 17 inch paper of either plain paper or cover 
stock paper




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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 07/06/2013 12:33, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,


Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with 
GnuLinux?


My 2cents :

Canon : OK for workgroup printing, even fairly complicated option stuff 
*_IF_* you manage to get hold of a PPD file that you can then fiddle 
with to add the missing options that you don't get with their standard 
driver...


Absolute crap for everything else, scanning, photocopying, faxing 
directly from the PC client, even under Mac. They write all their driver 
stuff for Windows first, then as an afterthought for Mac, and by 
extension Linux/Unix OSes. This may have changed in the last three 
years, as I haven't tested recently, but we had one hell of a bad time 
with the rented Canon iR Fax/Photocopier/Scanner/Printer that a rather 
clueless associate of mine decided to have put into the firm I was 
working in at the time. The sales support were equally lacking in 
proficiency - what's Linux ? No one uses OSX anymore, etc, etc. You 
might want to check today, though, you never know, they might have had 
an epiphany !!


We switched to HP - much better support, and the technicians were mostly 
OS agnostic (sales support as usual only knew that it ran in a Windows 
OS environment). However, printing quality and colour rendering was not 
always up to par with the HP device compared to the Canon. Swings and 
roundabouts, I guess.



Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/09/2013 09:52 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:

Le 07/06/2013 12:33, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily 
compatible with GnuLinux?



My 2cents :

Canon : OK for workgroup printing, even fairly complicated option 
stuff *_IF_* you manage to get hold of a PPD file that you can then 
fiddle with to add the missing options that you don't get with their 
standard driver...


Absolute crap for everything else, scanning, photocopying, faxing 
directly from the PC client, even under Mac. They write all their 
driver stuff for Windows first, then as an afterthought for Mac, and 
by extension Linux/Unix OSes. This may have changed in the last three 
years, as I haven't tested recently, but we had one hell of a bad time 
with the rented Canon iR Fax/Photocopier/Scanner/Printer that a rather 
clueless associate of mine decided to have put into the firm I was 
working in at the time. The sales support were equally lacking in 
proficiency - what's Linux ? No one uses OSX anymore, etc, etc. You 
might want to check today, though, you never know, they might have had 
an epiphany !!


We switched to HP - much better support, and the technicians were 
mostly OS agnostic (sales support as usual only knew that it ran in a 
Windows OS environment). However, printing quality and colour 
rendering was not always up to par with the HP device compared to the 
Canon. Swings and roundabouts, I guess.



Alex


I found my Linux packages at the UK support site, since the USA 
site/division does not support Linux.  The USA site supports both 
Windows and Mac OSX.

For the quality issues you have . . .

For my MG6220 printer [bought for printing labels directly on DVD 
media], The photo copying and photo printing was better than my Epson 
inkjet ever was. The printer uses Black, Photo Black, Gray, and the 3 
colors for ink cartridges.  The scanning of a color document/image was 
better than the other 2 printer/scanners I have/had.  It does not have a 
FAX option, but I have a stand alone FAX option on a different printer 
so I did not spend the extra money.


Actually the Linux driver was for the generic 6200 series, since the 
6220 is a USA printer and the 6230 was the same printer but for the UK 
power and such.  Linux has many of the Canon printers included in its 
printer database, but the new[er] MG6200 series was not and I had to 
install 2 .deb files for the printing and 2 for the Canon scanner 
package.  The printer has the USB port, but uses wired and wireless 
network options.  I do not use any USB only printers right now.


By-the-way - Linux Mint 13 and 14 will not find that Canon printer on 
the network, even if I give it the network IP address.  It will only 
work as a USB printer.  I was testing out Mint/MATE [MATE being the 
default desktop] for a possible option over Ubuntu/MATE.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Upscope
On Friday, June 07, 2013 09:30:49 PM Stefan Gruber wrote:
 Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:
  Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
  compatible with GnuLinux?
 
 Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...
 
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Depends on what your looking for. I had a xerox Phaser 6120 (laser 
printer), they also make MFC printers)for 7 years on my Linux system. 
never burped, Xeror provided drivers. To Negatives, relealily expense 
compared to some and toner was expensive. 

replaced xerox with Brothers MFC-J6710DW about 7 months ago. Not 
problems so far using Brothers Linux Drivers. Have not tested the FAX 
part yet, Not sure it will work over my fiber Optic phone network.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/09/2013 11:56 AM, Upscope wrote:

On Friday, June 07, 2013 09:30:49 PM Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?

Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...

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Depends on what your looking for. I had a xerox Phaser 6120 (laser
printer), they also make MFC printers)for 7 years on my Linux system.
never burped, Xeror provided drivers. To Negatives, relealily expense
compared to some and toner was expensive.

replaced xerox with Brothers MFC-J6710DW about 7 months ago. Not
problems so far using Brothers Linux Drivers. Have not tested the FAX
part yet, Not sure it will work over my fiber Optic phone network.

Russ


I do my best to find non-OEM ink cartridges and toner.

My HP laser cost me $25 - $30 for non-OEM but $105 for HP's toner.

My Canon set of 6 ink cost $35 for 2 full sets, but cost $80 for a full 
set of OEM-ink.


My HP OJ 7000 printer - 3 full sets of color cost less than one HP 
black.  1 full set of color/black cost less than HP's Black let alone a 
full set of Black and Color OEM ink.


When I buy a new [or used] printer, I first look at the cost of the ink 
or toner, both OEM and the non-OEM market.  I really want to know the 
ink/toner costs before I buy so I can tell how much that printer will 
cost me.  Then I compare printer models and their features with their 
ink/toner costs.  At that point, I have all of the information on cost 
of printing up front.  I cannot tell you how many good looking printers 
that would cost me $70+ for even non-OEM toner, or $200+ for the OEM 
toner.  I do not have that kind of money to lay out for a toner 
replacement, no matter how great the printer is.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/07/2013 03:48 PM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?


Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...



fifteen years ago, Kyocera was crap.
I sure hope they improved their stuff since that time.



I think I have seen this brand here in the Northeast USA.
HP is one of the major brands for the big office printer, copier, fax, 
collating, stapling and multi-tray office machine.  There are others, 
but so far it seems that the driver for Ubuntu with HP CUPS has the 
most printer tray and paper/envelope sizes/styles of all of the other 
brands of printers I have tried on my system.


I really think the key will be which brand and model of big office 
printer has the best driver, with the most options, for Linux. That is 
in the subject line after all.  I have had [and have] some nice printers 
that currently have no proper Linux driver[s].  My HP 7000 wide format 
will print letter size [8.5 by 11 inches] but will not print the 11 by 
17 inch paper, for which I bought it.  I have to use my Win7 boot of 
my dual booting laptop to use that printer.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/08/2013 08:49 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 06/07/2013 03:48 PM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?


Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...



fifteen years ago, Kyocera was crap.
I sure hope they improved their stuff since that time.



I think I have seen this brand here in the Northeast USA.
HP is one of the major brands for the big office printer, copier, 
fax, collating, stapling and multi-tray office machine. There are 
others, but so far it seems that the driver for Ubuntu with HP CUPS 
has the most printer tray and paper/envelope sizes/styles of all of 
the other brands of printers I have tried on my system.


I really think the key will be which brand and model of big office 
printer has the best driver, with the most options, for Linux. That 
is in the subject line after all.  I have had [and have] some nice 
printers that currently have no proper Linux driver[s].  My HP 7000 
wide format will print letter size [8.5 by 11 inches] but will not 
print the 11 by 17 inch paper, for which I bought it.  I have to use 
my Win7 boot of my dual booting laptop to use that printer.



EDIT

I just got the HP 7000 printer to work with Ubuntu.  Current driver from 
HP's Linux site is 3.13.5


The Ubuntu 12.04 repository has version 3.12.2 so I installed or 
reinstalled;

hplip
hplip-gui
hplip-cups
printer-driver-hpijs
printer-driver-hpcups
hplip-ppds
and all of their associated packages.

Now it works.  It seems that the newest version that HP's Linux driver 
page does not want to work, or I needed one or more of the listed 
packages that were not installed by doing sh hplip-3-13-5.run.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-08 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk
W dniu 07.06.2013 15:03, Tom
  Davies pisze:Mieszko's might even help me fix our current Oki and Ricoh 
printers which would be a double-plus in my favour.I haven't got experience 
with OkiLinux - maybe I am wrong but
  if printer uses PostScript should works.Long time ago I had Ricoh - 
didn't remember model, but in PCL
  worked OK with Debian 4 including select trays, paper dimension,
  single/double sided printout, etc.In PPDwas described all
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-08 Thread Felmon Davis

On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


On 06/07/2013 03:48 PM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?


Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...



fifteen years ago, Kyocera was crap.
I sure hope they improved their stuff since that time.



I think I have seen this brand here in the Northeast USA.


it is one of the main printers I use at work.

it's in the basement and I'm networked to it but mostly I use it 
directly to copy stuff or scan stuff in pdf onto a flashdrive; one can 
also send scanned stuff to a 'mailbox' which can be accessed via a 
browser; you can set this 'public' or 'private'.


the few occasions I 'send' jobs to it it's via CUPS. I do this so 
infrequently I'm not even sure it works but I imagine it does. it 
works fine with another networked printer I use daily at work (an HP 
laser device, b/w, two trays, duplex).


F.

HP is one of the major brands for the big office printer, copier, fax, 
collating, stapling and multi-tray office machine.  There are others, but so 
far it seems that the driver for Ubuntu with HP CUPS has the most printer 
tray and paper/envelope sizes/styles of all of the other brands of printers I 
have tried on my system.


I really think the key will be which brand and model of big office printer 
has the best driver, with the most options, for Linux. That is in the subject 
line after all.  I have had [and have] some nice printers that currently have 
no proper Linux driver[s].  My HP 7000 wide format will print letter size 
[8.5 by 11 inches] but will not print the 11 by 17 inch paper, for which I 
bought it.  I have to use my Win7 boot of my dual booting laptop to use 
that printer.







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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Luuk

On 07-06-2013 12:33, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I keep asking this question in various places (such as linuxquestions or in 
ubuntu forums) but never seem to get any useful responses.


Many large offices have at least one large photocopier that often also does 
printing.  It's usually so large that it has a lot of trays for different sizes of paper 
(or as back-up for when 1 tray gets emptied).  Typically about chest high or just over 
waist high (depending how tall you are).  Usually got a multi-feed thing on the top to 
plonk 50 pages in and leave it to feed them all though.  Often with extra features such 
as collating and stapling bundles of pages (although the stapler usually breaks quite 
quickly).


Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily compatible with 
GnuLinux?


Usually answers to this question give links to specific one-off photocopiers 
being sold through ebay in a specific country and delivery charges would be 
astronomical.  What i am looking for is a reliable manufacturer so that i can 
look through several different types of machine and then buy through normal 
channels, like Viking Direct or Staples or something.  Errr, i am in England, 
not the USA.


It's not really a LibreOffice question but i thought some people here might 
work in offices and might have dealt with the problem before.

Regards from

Tom :)



http://software.canon-europe.com/
it says: Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP

they provide drivers for Linux


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk

W dniu 2013-06-07 12:50, Luuk pisze:

http://software.canon-europe.com/
it says: Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP

they provide drivers for Linux



Really Cannon?  Have you got any experience with Cannon on the Linux?

Click on your link and next on the for bussines box as you typed 
Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP gives me page:

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Solutions/enterpriseprint/

next click:
[Linux Printing 
http://www.canon-europe.com/Default.asp?URI=tcm:12-885840CONTEXTURI=FILTER=DataITEMTYPE=16MODE=OpenModeEditWithFallback#Linux%20Printing]


and I see:


 Page not found


As long I remmeber always was problem with Cannon printers on the Linux.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Luuk

On 07-06-2013 14:04, Mieszko Kaczmarczyk wrote:

W dniu 2013-06-07 12:50, Luuk pisze:

http://software.canon-europe.com/
it says: Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP

they provide drivers for Linux



Really Cannon?  Have you got any experience with Cannon on the Linux?

Click on your link and next on the for bussines box as you typed
Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP gives me page:
http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Solutions/enterpriseprint/

next click:
 [Linux Printing
http://www.canon-europe.com/Default.asp?URI=tcm:12-885840CONTEXTURI=FILTER=DataITEMTYPE=16MODE=OpenModeEditWithFallback#Linux%20Printing]


and I see:


  Page not found



This has nothing to do with printing, its just an error on their website...
If you scroll down, in stead of clicking you see the info on 'Linux 
printing'




As long I remmeber always was problem with Cannon printers on the Linux.




When was the last time you tried? and your 'm' and 'n' keys on your 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett Packard have 
much better but all that seems to be for small printers that are meant to be 
run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really looking for something a lot more 
scaled up, to be run on a network of only about 20 desktops right now but 
possibly a whole lot more later on.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: Mieszko Kaczmarczyk mieszko.kaczmarc...@wetzel.co
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Cc: Luuk luu...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 13:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux
 

W dniu 2013-06-07 12:50, Luuk pisze:
 http://software.canon-europe.com/
 it says: Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP

 they provide drivers for Linux


Really Cannon?  Have you got any experience with Cannon on the Linux?

Click on your link and next on the for bussines box as you typed 
Printing from UNIX, Linux, AS400, iSeries, Citrix  SAP gives me page:
http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Solutions/enterpriseprint/

next click:
     [Linux Printing 
http://www.canon-europe.com/Default.asp?URI=tcm:12-885840CONTEXTURI=FILTER=DataITEMTYPE=16MODE=OpenModeEditWithFallback#Linux%20Printing]

and I see:


  Page not found


As long I remember always was problem with Cannon printers on the Linux.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Luuk

On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett Packard have 
much better but all that seems to be for small printers that are meant to be 
run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really looking for something a lot more 
scaled up, to be run on a network of only about 20 desktops right now but 
possibly a whole lot more later on.
Regards from
Tom :)





This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/


and i'm not working for Canon, and i seem to be advertising them 
here.. hm where did that come from .  ;)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That looks right too.  Don't worry about advocating for Cannon.  If you find 
something works it doesn't seem bad to say so, especially on mailing lists 
where other people can chip in with their thoughts/recommendations.  It's not 
like telephone support where no-one else can comment about your suggestions and 
the whole conflict of interests or dubious motives might be a factor.  It was 
interesting to see the link didn't work but scrolling down got there.  For some 
reason that give me more confidence than a website that is too perfect.  

If i can go back to my boss with 2 or 3 manufacturers and recommendations from 
the list it's good for me.  

Mieszko's might even help me fix our current Oki and Ricoh printers which would 
be a double-plus in my favour.  
Thanks and regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 13:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux
 

On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett Packard have 
 much better but all that seems to be for small printers that are meant to be 
 run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really looking for something a lot more 
 scaled up, to be run on a network of only about 20 desktops right now but 
 possibly a whole lot more later on.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/


and i'm not working for Canon, and i seem to be advertising them 
here.. hm where did that come from .  ;)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Doug

On 06/07/2013 08:33 AM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett
Packard have much better but all that seems to be for small printers
that are meant to be run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really
looking for something a lot more scaled up, to be run on a network of
only about 20 desktops right now but possibly a whole lot more later on.
Regards from
Tom :)





This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/

/snip/
I get the impression that the op is not looking for a _printer,_ per se, 
but for a copying machine that can be used as a printer, also.

That's a novel idea (to me). Do such things exist?
--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/07/2013 12:01 PM, Doug wrote:

On 06/07/2013 08:33 AM, Luuk wrote:

On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett
Packard have much better but all that seems to be for small printers
that are meant to be run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really
looking for something a lot more scaled up, to be run on a network of
only about 20 desktops right now but possibly a whole lot more later 
on.

Regards from
Tom :)





This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/ 



/snip/
I get the impression that the op is not looking for a _printer,_ per 
se, but for a copying machine that can be used as a printer, also.

That's a novel idea (to me). Do such things exist?
--doug



I think there is a need for that office to beable to use the tall 
office copier/printer/FAX machine that holds several large [and/or 
small] trays dedicated for different paper types and sizes.  That is the 
type that is in many of the offices I have been in.  On device to all of 
their needs.


The key is that Windows drivers would have access to all of the device's 
options.  What is needed is to find one that has Linux drivers to do the 
same thing.  It is no good using Linux if you cannot use all the need 
functions of the printer for your office needs.  Sometimes having both 
Linux and Windows computers attached to the office network that the 
large multi-function office printing device is connected to.


I searched for the best one for the HP laser printer that I use, for the 
tray and paper options, so I would not have to do too many option 
manually or need to run my laptop in Win7 mode.  I have to do that with 
my HP wide format printer, but I do not want to do the same with the 
laser printer when I want to print anything other than letter paper in 
the default tray.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yes, that is exactly right.  I'd forgotten the old name for them.  Before they 
started being plugged into computer networks a few years ago they were called 
copying machines.  They generally cost a lot less to run than smaller printers 
that sit on the desktop.  The toner-costs/page are a lot lower and they are 
usually a lot faster and less noisy (at least when they are new and if they are 
working properly).  There are colour ones around now but offices still often 
get the bw ones for the extremely low cost.  

At my place we have an excessively high quality colour printer separately but 
it really should only be used for flyers, posters and other marketing 
materials.  Our old copier is such a pain to use that everyone has started 
using the colour one for trivial things and the toner for that costs an arm 
and a leg  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux
 

On 06/07/2013 08:33 AM, Luuk wrote:
 On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett
 Packard have much better but all that seems to be for small printers
 that are meant to be run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really
 looking for something a lot more scaled up, to be run on a network of
 only about 20 desktops right now but possibly a whole lot more later on.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

 http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/

/snip/
I get the impression that the op is not looking for a _printer,_ per se, 
but for a copying machine that can be used as a printer, also.
That's a novel idea (to me). Do such things exist?
--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Actually just being able to print to A4 would be plenty.  It would be a huge 
bonus to the current state-of-play and is about the main way we would use the 
printer anyway.  

It's very rare for us to need the other trays and sizes.  Generally for that 
there would be someone standing by the machine coaxing it to work.  Also we 
have no idea how to use the  stapling function from the desktop machines or 
even while standing at the machine (hence why the staple function breaks quite 
quickly every time it's ever been fixed).  So a new machine wouldn't need to do 
any more than the basics.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 7 June 2013, 17:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux
 

On 06/07/2013 12:01 PM, Doug wrote:
 On 06/07/2013 08:33 AM, Luuk wrote:
 On 07-06-2013 14:27, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks :)  Cannon have a reasonably good reputation but Hewlett
 Packard have much better but all that seems to be for small printers
 that are meant to be run for 1 or maybe 2 desktops.  I'm really
 looking for something a lot more scaled up, to be run on a network of
 only about 20 desktops right now but possibly a whole lot more later 
 on.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 This is not for 1, maybe 2 desktops:

 http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Work/Products/Office_Print_Copy_Solutions/Office_Black_White/imageRUNNER_ADVANCE_6265i/
  


 /snip/
 I get the impression that the op is not looking for a _printer,_ per 
 se, but for a copying machine that can be used as a printer, also.
 That's a novel idea (to me). Do such things exist?
 --doug


I think there is a need for that office to beable to use the tall 
office copier/printer/FAX machine that holds several large [and/or 
small] trays dedicated for different paper types and sizes.  That is the 
type that is in many of the offices I have been in.  On device to all of 
their needs.

The key is that Windows drivers would have access to all of the device's 
options.  What is needed is to find one that has Linux drivers to do the 
same thing.  It is no good using Linux if you cannot use all the need 
functions of the printer for your office needs.  Sometimes having both 
Linux and Windows computers attached to the office network that the 
large multi-function office printing device is connected to.

I searched for the best one for the HP laser printer that I use, for the 
tray and paper options, so I would not have to do too many option 
manually or need to run my laptop in Win7 mode.  I have to do that with 
my HP wide format printer, but I do not want to do the same with the 
laser printer when I want to print anything other than letter paper in 
the default tray.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Stefan Gruber
Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:
 Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
 compatible with GnuLinux?

Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: printers compatible with GnuLinux

2013-06-07 Thread Luuk

On 07-06-2013 21:30, Stefan Gruber wrote:

Tom Davies schrieb am Freitag, 7. Juni 2013 12:33:

Does anyone know of companies that do product-lines that are easily
compatible with GnuLinux?


Look at Kyocera TASKalfa Series...



fifteen years ago, Kyocera was crap.
I sure hope they improved their stuff since that time.





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