Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[fudmier]

seems to me is you were using linux this should be almost automatic 
/dev/device..<



 18.1 Device Files

UNIX has a beautifully consistent method of allowing programs to access 
hardware. Under UNIX, every piece of hardware is a file. To demonstrate 
this novelty, try viewing the file /dev/hda (you will have to be root to 
run this command):


||
|less -f /dev/hda|

/dev/hda is not really a file at all. When you read from it, you are 
actually reading directly from the first physical hard disk of your 
machine. /dev/hda is known as a device file, and all of them are stored 
under the /dev directory.


Device files allow access to hardware. If you have a sound card 
installed and configured, you can try:


||
|cat /dev/dsp > my_recording|

Say something into your microphone and then type:

||
|cat my_recording > /dev/dsp|

The system will play out the sound through your speakers (note that this 
d\n always work, since the recording volume or the recording speed may 
not be set correctly.)


If no programs are currently using your mouse, you can also try:

||
|cat /dev/mouse|

If you now move the mouse, the mouse protocol commands will be written 
directly to your screen (it will look like garbage). This is an easy way 
to see if your mouse is working, and is especially useful for testing 
serial port. Occasionally this test doesn't work because some command 
has previously configured the serial port in some odd way. In that case, 
also try:


||
|cu -s 1200 -l /dev/mouse|

At a lower level, programs that access device files do so in two basic 
ways:


 * They read and write to the device to send and retrieve bulk data
   (much like less and cat above).
 * They use the *C* ioctl (/IO Control/) function to configure the
   device. (In the case of the sound card, this might set mono versus
   stereo, recording speed or other parameters.)

Because every kind of device that one can think of (except for network 
cards) can be twisted to fit these two modes of operation, UNIX's scheme 
has endured since its inception and is the universal method of accessing 
hardware.


 I think the interest to use Libre Office maybe to get the port data to 
be captured into a spreadsheet.. ?



On 08/28/2017 04:24 AM, Cley Faye wrote:

2017-08-27 15:47 GMT+02:00 Marion & Noel Lodge :


I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use ahttps://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studio  
Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me
to
trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
MIDI stream.

I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
have, or have ever worked with.

I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I foundUsing 
Python with libusb could work, if you're looking for something quick
to implement and don't want to dwelve in compiled languages.

was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.

So my questions are -
1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
example code (preferably in Basic)?
2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
need.



​Maybe I misunderstood something, but I don't see how this is related to
LibreOffice in any way. While it is true that it is possible to write
applications with LibreOffice to some extent, what you're describing would
be better done using anything else​.

Using Python with libusb could work, if you're looking for something quick
to implement and don't want to dwelve in compiled languages.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device. Additional Realterm Info

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

The article below will probably help quite a bit setting up.

https://nerdclub-uk.blogspot.com/2017/04/messing-about-with-midi-and-realterm-vs.html

The parts on Realterm and MIDI starts about half way down the article.


On 8/28/2017 11:38 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

You may want to take a look at Realterm

Realterm is an engineers terminal program specially designed for 
capturing, controlling and debugging binary and other difficult data 
streams. It is the best tool for debugging comms.


Post-Processing capture file is just one of many things it can do.

https://realterm.sourceforge.io/

I have not used it to analyze MIDI, but if there's data, it will see it.

Hope this helps.

Paul


On 8/27/2017 9:47 AM, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote:
I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into 
my PC

via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes 
to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves 
like

a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studio    which enables 
me to

trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract 
from the

MIDI stream.

I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code 
that
would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with 
Device

Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of 
which I

have, or have ever worked with.

I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I 
found
was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I 
need,
but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not 
find any

macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.

So my questions are -
1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
example code (preferably in Basic)?
2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that 
can read
a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring 
Studio
can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll 
ever

need.

Any help in this regard would be much appreciated

Thanks,

Noel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Mike Scott]

On 28/08/17 10:24, Cley Faye wrote:

2017-08-27 15:47 GMT+02:00 Marion & Noel Lodge :


I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

...

​Maybe I misunderstood something, but I don't see how this is related to
LibreOffice in any way. While it is true that it is possible to write


If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail :-}

I think the OP sounds muddled. Recording midi signals isn't going to 
help (much) with a wish to "programmatically mix sine waves" -- chalk 
and cheese, I think. Which thinking is amplified by the bit about 
"modify the sound before it goes to the speaker". I doubt (nay, hope) LO 
will ever offer a full-blown synth!!


I /think/ the OP is looking at a midi synthesiser plus a mixer. A doddle 
on linux to sling something together -- I'd be looking at qsynth, jack 
and jack_mixer as a start point. Maybe they'll run on windows. I'd 
not know. I'd most certainly /not/ be looking to do any usb-level 
programming; that bit's already been done.


Or maybe I've totally mis-understood.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

You may want to take a look at Realterm

Realterm is an engineers terminal program specially designed for 
capturing, controlling and debugging binary and other difficult data 
streams. It is the best tool for debugging comms.


Post-Processing capture file is just one of many things it can do.

https://realterm.sourceforge.io/

I have not used it to analyze MIDI, but if there's data, it will see it.

Hope this helps.

Paul


On 8/27/2017 9:47 AM, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote:

I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me to
trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
MIDI stream.

I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
have, or have ever worked with.

I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I found
was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.

So my questions are -
1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
example code (preferably in Basic)?
2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
need.

Any help in this regard would be much appreciated

Thanks,

Noel
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lodg...@gmail.com




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Philip Jackson]

On 27/08/17 15:47, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote:
> 2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
> a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
> can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
> need.

I seem to remember from years' ago that there was a free utility called
MidiOx for Windows that could read incoming midi streams. The website
still exists but it looks as though it might not have been further
developed recently : http://www.midiox.com/

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Cley Faye]

2017-08-27 15:47 GMT+02:00 Marion & Noel Lodge :

> I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
> via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
> driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
> want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
> speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
> a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
> try!)
>
> I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
> https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me
> to
> trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
> are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
> slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
> MIDI stream.
>
> I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
> would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
> Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
> only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
> have, or have ever worked with.
>
> I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
> that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
> databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I found
> was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
> but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
> macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.
>
> So my questions are -
> 1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
> LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
> example code (preferably in Basic)?
> 2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
> a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
> can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
> need.
>


​Maybe I misunderstood something, but I don't see how this is related to
LibreOffice in any way. While it is true that it is possible to write
applications with LibreOffice to some extent, what you're describing would
be better done using anything else​.

Using Python with libusb could work, if you're looking for something quick
to implement and don't want to dwelve in compiled languages.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Marion & Noel Lodge]

Hi anne-ology,

I think my subject line was misleading.  My USB device is a musical
keyboard rather than an external HD.

I inherited the keyboard from my step son.  It happened to be a MIDI
keyboard.  This turned out to be just what I needed, as it tells me exactly
the note number that has been pressed, (or released), plus any movement in
the nine sliders.  I have set up the sliders to correspond to the draw bars
on a Hammond Organ.  (The draw bars determine which harmonics are used to
modify the sound produced.  A very large number of variations are
possible.)  So armed with the MIDI information, I hope to write a program
that can simulate a Hammond Organ.  Possibly a pipe dream, but time will
tell.

But to get started I need to be able to read the MIDI stream, which at the
moment is coming through a USB port.  Hence my request for any info on code
that might help help me to do that.

Thanks for your reply,

Noel
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On 28 August 2017 at 08:25, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>If your external HD has LO, then there shouldn't be a problem.
>
>Question: is there some reason you're using .midi rather than
> another sound application?;
>   .midi programs are outdated, since they supposedly don't have
> the actual sound, rather merely text.
>
>Hoping this helps, and you're able to accomplish whatever you're
> planning,
>
>
>
>
> From: Marion & Noel Lodge <lodg...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:47 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.
> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>
>
>
>
> I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
> via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
> driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
> want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
> speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
> a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
> try!)
>
> I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
> https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me
> to
> trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
> are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
> slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
> MIDI stream.
>
> I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
> would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
> Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
> only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
> have, or have ever worked with.
>
> I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
> that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
> databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I found
> was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
> but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
> macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.
>
> So my questions are -
> 1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
> LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
> example code (preferably in Basic)?
> 2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
> a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
> can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
> need.
>
> Any help in this regard would be much appreciated
>
> Thanks,
>
> Noel
> --
> Noel Lodge
> lodg...@gmail.com
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[anne-ology]

   If your external HD has LO, then there shouldn't be a problem.

   Question: is there some reason you're using .midi rather than
another sound application?;
  .midi programs are outdated, since they supposedly don't have the
actual sound, rather merely text.

   Hoping this helps, and you're able to accomplish whatever you're
planning,




From: Marion & Noel Lodge <lodg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:47 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org>


I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me to
trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
MIDI stream.

I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
have, or have ever worked with.

I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I found
was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.

So my questions are -
1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
example code (preferably in Basic)?
2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
need.

Any help in this regard would be much appreciated

Thanks,

Noel
--
Noel Lodge
lodg...@gmail.com

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[libreoffice-users] Reading from a USB device.

[Marion & Noel Lodge]

I have a Studio Logic MIDI music keyboard which I have plugged into my PC
via a USB cable.  Windows has automatically installed the appropriate
driver/s.  I am attempting to read the MIDI input from the keyboard as I
want to see if I can use a Macro to modify the sound before it goes to the
speaker.   (Actually I want to try to programmatically mix sine waves like
a Hammond Organ does - it may not be possible, but I'd like to give it a
try!)

I installed a trial version of Device Monitoring Studio,   see
https://www.hhdsoftware.com/device-monitoring-studiowhich enables me to
trap the raw data from the keyboard, and I'm able to identify which keys
are pressed or released, and also the keyboard sliders' movements and
slider positions.  For my purposes, that is all I need to extract from the
MIDI stream.

I then went on the Web to see if I could find examples of Macro code that
would enable my program to emulate what I had been able to do with Device
Monitoring Studio.  It turns out that USB coding is very complex and the
only examples I could find were in C, C++ or Visual Basic, none of which I
have, or have ever worked with.

I then had a look at LibreOffice 5.3 SDK API.  I believe that is the API
that Base uses, and over several years I have developed a number of
databases using macros that make calls to the API. One API service I found
was,  com.sun.star.io.pipe,  which looks as though it might be what I need,
but I don't know if it would work with a USB port, and I could not find any
macro code examples that might point me in the right direction.

So my questions are -
1.  Does anyone know if it is possible to read from a USB port using a
LibreOffice macro utilising the API?  If so can you point me to some
example code (preferably in Basic)?
2.  Failing that, is there a simple application on the market that can read
a USB MIDI stream into a buffer or file?  I think Device Monitoring Studio
can do that, but it is expensive and has far more features than I'll ever
need.

Any help in this regard would be much appreciated

Thanks,

Noel
--
Noel Lodge
lodg...@gmail.com

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