Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-26 Thread Robin
On 25 December 2013 21:25, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 Sounds like you are looking for advanced debugging information
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Debug_Information
 but that is beyond the scope of average users so most people are
 better off just working through the kind of stuff you have already
 been doing and other things from on this page
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport
 (note the link to the advanced page is at the bottom).  Errr, the
 advanced page is beyond me so hopefully you can figure it out or Jay
 or someone can help with it.
 Good luck and regards from
 Tom :)



 Thanks for the info.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-26 Thread Robin
On 25 December 2013 20:39, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Does your spreadsheet have a large number of calculations and referrals
 that periodically take a long time to run?


Thanks for the reply. Spreadsheet is simple but over 4 years old. There is
just a daily entry, calculation of cost of entry, monthly totals. There are
7 sheets covering different periods of time since 2009.


 Also, can you post the spreadsheet to Nabble? Please do not post anything
 proprietary or private.

 I'll consider doing that.

Thanks


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
We all get all messages to the list so you can respond to more than 1
person in a single post.  If you are specifically talking to just one
person in 1 paragraph and then another in the next you could use @
signs, for example

@Tom blah, blah

@Jay blah de blah

@Everyone blah


I don't know why we don't do that sort of thing on this mailing list
but i've seen it a lot in other projects.  I gather that gwibber or
twitter or something uses something similar for their main addresses
so it might get confusing for some people.  Maybe that's why i haven't
seen it here much.  Until my recent move to GMail i would only see 1
message at a time so i would reply to each individual one.  It's
taking me a looong while to get used to the much more sophisticated
approach of threaded mailings but its' helped me cut down on traffic
quite a lot!


Since you are running into problems with the old spreadsheet might it
be worth considering
1.  starting a fresh new one and then
2.  copypaste or import by Csv only the data you really need access
to most often and
3.  keeping the old file as an archive to refer to.

I found that when moving from 3.3.x branch to 3.4, and again from
somewhere around 3.4.x to the next ones, sometimes weird little
hitches happened that were smoothed out by starting afresh.  Maybe
it's because so many forks of LibreOffice merged at around that time
because i've not found similar issues with any upgrades since then.
Of course it could have been just my imagination or unfamiliarity with
LibreOffice because i hadn't used it much before the forking.

With Excel i found that spreadsheets over around 5 sheets tended to
become a but unwieldy (people couldn't cope with the tabs disappearing
under the scroll-bar or having the scroll-bar so short) so i would
either break them up (the spreadsheets, not the people) or convert
them to databases depending on which seemed more appropriate and/or
easier.

So there are 2 good(ish) and probably many other good reasons for
breaking up the spreadsheet but doubtless there are many good reasons
to keep all your data together!  So it's just a suggestion that might
well not be possible.
Regards from
Tom :)








On 26 December 2013 14:31, Robin rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 December 2013 20:39, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Does your spreadsheet have a large number of calculations and referrals
 that periodically take a long time to run?


 Thanks for the reply. Spreadsheet is simple but over 4 years old. There is
 just a daily entry, calculation of cost of entry, monthly totals. There are
 7 sheets covering different periods of time since 2009.


 Also, can you post the spreadsheet to Nabble? Please do not post anything
 proprietary or private.

 I'll consider doing that.

 Thanks


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[libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-25 Thread Robin
Have a spreadsheet which roughly every 5th time I save it takes several
minutes and 100% cpu usage. Running from a terminal doesn't provide any
info. There doesn't appear a way to run debug or logging. So, how do I get
more info to provide a bug report?



Debian Sid amd64 linux 3.11.2
Debian packaged Version: 4.1.4.2
Build ID: 410m0(Build:2)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-25 Thread Jay Lozier

Hi,

Does your spreadsheet have a large number of calculations and referrals 
that periodically take a long time to run?


Also, can you post the spreadsheet to Nabble? Please do not post 
anything proprietary or private.



On 12/25/2013 01:43 PM, Robin wrote:

Have a spreadsheet which roughly every 5th time I save it takes several
minutes and 100% cpu usage. Running from a terminal doesn't provide any
info. There doesn't appear a way to run debug or logging. So, how do I get
more info to provide a bug report?



Debian Sid amd64 linux 3.11.2
Debian packaged Version: 4.1.4.2
Build ID: 410m0(Build:2)

Thanks


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to get possible bug info

2013-12-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sounds like you are looking for advanced debugging information
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Debug_Information
but that is beyond the scope of average users so most people are
better off just working through the kind of stuff you have already
been doing and other things from on this page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport
(note the link to the advanced page is at the bottom).  Errr, the
advanced page is beyond me so hopefully you can figure it out or Jay
or someone can help with it.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


On 25 December 2013 20:39, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Does your spreadsheet have a large number of calculations and referrals that
 periodically take a long time to run?

 Also, can you post the spreadsheet to Nabble? Please do not post anything
 proprietary or private.



 On 12/25/2013 01:43 PM, Robin wrote:

 Have a spreadsheet which roughly every 5th time I save it takes several
 minutes and 100% cpu usage. Running from a terminal doesn't provide any
 info. There doesn't appear a way to run debug or logging. So, how do I get
 more info to provide a bug report?



 Debian Sid amd64 linux 3.11.2
 Debian packaged Version: 4.1.4.2
 Build ID: 410m0(Build:2)

 Thanks


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 jsloz...@gmail.com



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