On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:10:18 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Den 17 april 2012 22:32 skrev Thomas Taylor <li...@comcast.net>:
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200
> > Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin <s...@iol.ie>:
> >> > Regina wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced
> >> >> with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . .
> >> >
> >> > That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are
> >> > distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and
> >> > typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are
> >> > they interchangeable.
> >> >
> >> > You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you
> >> > are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and
> >> > your keyboard layout.
> >> >
> >> > As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you
> >> > use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise
> >> > your keyboard layout,
> >>
> >> That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”,
> >> available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I
> >> thought it could be a bit tricky…
> >> I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also
> >> did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the
> >> first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have
> >> them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations
> >> so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%&/” and so on. I even
> >> made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a
> >> couple of weeks of typing…
> >>
> >> To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need
> >> to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu):
> >> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
> >> and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/<the file representing your language>,
> >> more on that another time…
> >>
> >> Ok, this was a bit off topic…
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Johnny Rosenberg
> >> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
> >>
> >> >so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the
> >> > en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you
> >> > want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!).
> >> >
> >> > You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences,
> >> > but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is
> >> > _not_ your friend.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> > Hi Johnny;
> > Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the "Alt" key on the
> > keyboard but which key is Gr?  My keyboard (an old IBM windows model)
> > doesn't have such a key.
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> 
> I saw that someone already answered, but I'll reply anyway.
> The ”+” does only mean that the key is hold. So Alt+Shift+x means that
> Alt, Shift and x is pressed simultaneously, or at least that no key is
> released before the other keys is pressed.
> The compose key doesn't work that way, therefore no ”+” sign: ”Compose
> --.” means ”hit the Compose key, release it, then type --.”.

<<<<< snip >>>>>

Hi Johnny ;)
The problem with the above is that in openSuSE  the compose key only allows two
(2) keystroke combinations, not three (3).  "Compose -./--" do not insert
anything.  To me, this is just a point of education as I don't use dash m/n in
my writing.  Just trying to learn a bit.

Thanks for any further explanation. 

Tom

After some trial and error I find that three key combinations work in some
applications but not in others.  They do work in LO but not when immediately
adjacent.  Thanks for your help.

Tom

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