Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-30 Thread Joep L. Blom
On 20-10-12 01:47, anne-ology wrote: Yet an employer has the right to hire those employees he feels will fit into his company, benefiting him, his company and its bottom line. IF someone acts like a fool, as placing lewd photos of himself or using abusive and/or blasphemous langu

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-21 Thread Tom Davies
s from Tom :)  > > From: Steve Edmonds >To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org >Cc: 'Sandy Harris' ; users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2012, 23:23 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? > >It is interesting how insec

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-20 Thread Steve Edmonds
nts. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 13:15 To: 'Sandy Harris'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? [ ... ] 6. GOOD NEWS #1 (for now):

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
age- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 13:15 To: 'Sandy Harris'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? [ ... ] 6. GOOD NEWS #1 (for now): Even allowing for (4-5), the estimat

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 21:29 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? Googling on "open office password crack" turns up dozens of things. Here's one that looks real, if outdated: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/20/openoffice_

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-19 Thread Sandy Harris
Googling on "open office password crack" turns up dozens of things. Here's one that looks real, if outdated: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/20/openoffice_password_crack/ That's 2007; we can hope O-O have improved the system since then Anyone know? The best-known purveyors of commercial pas

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-19 Thread anne-ology
.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/**<https://tools.oasis-open.org/**version-control/svn/oic/**> >>>> Advisories/9-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html< >>>> https://**tools.oasis-open.org/version-**control/svn/oic/Advisories/** >>>>

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-19 Thread Jay Lozier
g/committees/document.php?document_id=46220> . - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf [mailto:reinhold@stapf-online.**com ] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 06:30 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? you are perf

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-19 Thread anne-ology
Yet an employer has the right to hire those employees he feels will fit into his company, benefiting him, his company and its bottom line. IF someone acts like a fool, as placing lewd photos of himself or using abusive and/or blasphemous language on line, then that employer should ha

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-19 Thread anne-ology
visories/9-ProtectionKeySafety/trunk/description.html> >> > >> >> A proposal for more-reliable security of protection passwords >> (but not the protections themselves) is before the >> OASIS ODF TC: >> <https://www.oasis-open.org/**committees/docum

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
e is, that needs to be widely known. Care to share any links? - Dennis -Original Message- From: rost52 [mailto:bugquestcon...@online.de] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 19:07 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
On 17.10.2012 12:38, Jay Lozier wrote: On 10/16/2012 09:12 PM, rost52 wrote: I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for FB passwords is illegal. On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote: An

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 10/16/2012 10:07 PM, rost52 wrote: Dennis, When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again how some PW removing tools, which offer a demo with opening the file or showing the PW removed, can claim that the file could be open within a few seconds to a minute? I vaguely

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
..@acm.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? Dennis, When I am reading your long and excellent explanation, I wonder again how some PW removing tools, which offer a demo with opening the file or showing the PW removed, can claim that the file c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Jay Lozier
On 10/16/2012 09:12 PM, rost52 wrote: > I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social > networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US > asking for FB passwords is illegal. > > > On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote: >> Anyone asking for my Facebook pass

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread rost52
ommittees/document.php?document_id=46220>. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf [mailto:reinh...@stapf-online.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 06:30 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? you are perfectly right abo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread anne-ology
yes, it's due to the privacy laws. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:12 PM, rost52 wrote: I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social > networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for > FB passwords is illegal. > > > > On 16.10.2012 22:59, J

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread rost52
I attended last week a seminar on the the legal situation with social networks. The presenting US lawyer mentioned that even in the US asking for FB passwords is illegal. On 16.10.2012 22:59, Jay Lozier wrote: Anyone asking for my Facebook password in a job interview is out of luck; I do not

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
Davies' ; 'Dr. R. O Stapf' >; users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 15:37 >Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? > >Some protections are preserved in conversions between Office binaries and >OpenOffice.  But the pr

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
oduct transfer. Open the .xslx in LO; open the .ods in Microsoft Office. -Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 08:21 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'Dr. R. O Stapf'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-us

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 08:21 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; 'Dr. R. O Stapf'; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? Hi :) Brilliant!! Ahhh, just though

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
Tom :)  > > From: Dennis E. Hamilton >To: 'Dr. R. O Stapf' ; users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 14:34 >Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? > >It is important to separ

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ASIS ODF TC: <https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46220>. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf [mailto:reinh...@stapf-online.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 06:30 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Viral Orpe
Hi Jay :) That is an interesting idea - not to know your own password(s). You definitely can't forget what you don't know. Worth following that concept .. One of my friends would set his sharable password to "iwonttell" ("I won't tell"). He then would keep fighting back and forth for somet

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Jay Lozier
w is out of luck; I do not know it because I use a password manager and each password I use is generated per account. > > > --- On Tue, 16/10/12, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote: > > From: Jean-Louis Oneto > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
you are perfectly right about this!!! On 16.10.2012 22:22, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much better off not forgetting your password. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Probl

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I wrote my own password cracker for OOo files, but as you found, they run for a very long time. I did it just to see how well it would, or would not work. Unless you have a lot of time to kill (days, weeks, months, etc), you are much better off not forgetting your password. -- For unsubscr

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Davies
d on all 3 OSes i commonly use.  Hmm, it could still be me. Regards from Tom :)  --- On Tue, 16/10/12, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote: From: Jean-Louis Oneto Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 16 October, 2012, 1:40 I use

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
On 16.10.2012 09:40, Jean-Louis Oneto wrote: I used the following: http://www.crackpdf.com/ but not the Pro version which allows to make brute force attack, but then, they warn you that it will take _a_long_time_ !!! To remove simple protections, it was really fast, but they unlock the file wit

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
es me a morale dilemma each time. Usually i just give a really half-hearted non-effort and then fob them off. Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: From: Dr. R. O Stapf Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: users@global.libreoffice.o

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
and then fob them off. Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: From: Dr. R. O Stapf Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 15:30 On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 15.10.20

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
ibreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: ville...@t-online.de, users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 15:30 gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2 Sent from my MetroPCS Android Device Andreas Säger wrote: Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote: LO files can be protected with PWs when doing

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
On 16.10.2012 02:14, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ledger Consulting wrote: gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2 What? encrypted message - problem is that I cannot understand it. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libre

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Jay Lozier
On 10/15/2012 02:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Cat on the keyboard? Keys in the pocket? > Regards from > Tom :) Your cats spell better than mine (LOL) > > --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Ledger Consulting wrote: > > From: Ledger Consulting > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-u

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
om :)  --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: From: Dr. R. O Stapf Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 15:30 On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote: > Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote: >&

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Cat on the keyboard?  Keys in the pocket? Regards from Tom :)  --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Ledger Consulting wrote: From: Ledger Consulting Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: ville...@t-online.de, users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 15

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 15/10/2012 18:00, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit : > > On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: >> Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit : >>> [...] >>> >>> However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get >>> forgotten (not and MS file)? >>> Hints are welcome for the future. >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ledger Consulting wrote: > gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2 > What? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoun

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Tom Davies
i try to register (or give up) Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 15/10/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 17:29 On 10/15/2012 12:00 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 10/15/2012 12:00 PM, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit : [...] However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get forgotten (not and MS file)? Hints are welcome for the future. Buy a super-computer,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
On 15.10.2012 23:46, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit : [...] However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get forgotten (not and MS file)? Hints are welcome for the future. Buy a super-computer, launch a brute force algorithm and pray that t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 15/10/2012 16:30, Dr. R. O Stapf a écrit : > [...] > > However, my question was how to open an LO file if the PW get > forgotten (not and MS file)? > Hints are welcome for the future. Buy a super-computer, launch a brute force algorithm and pray that the password is a short word from the standar

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Ledger Consulting
gvfe ..dtnd e eeir2 Sent from my MetroPCS Android Device Andreas Säger wrote: >Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote: >> LO files can be protected with PWs when doing "save as". >> Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files >> can be cracked? Can the >> MS related P

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to crack a PW in LO?

2012-10-15 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
On 15.10.2012 23:11, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 15.10.2012 15:49, rost52 wrote: LO files can be protected with PWs when doing "save as". Fighting currently with an xls file and its lost PW, I wonder how LO files can be cracked? Can the MS related PW remover be used for LO as well? Thanks in advan