Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-02-10 Thread William Deegan
Ron, As always your opinions are valued. Have a nice day! -Bill On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Ron Chen wrote: > I'm finally back from my 1-month Chinese New Year vacation (actually back > since > Wednesday). A few things I wanted to add: > > 1) No matter what, Univa is not supposed to damage th

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-02-09 Thread Ron Chen
I'm finally back from my 1-month Chinese New Year vacation (actually back since Wednesday). A few things I wanted to add: 1) No matter what, Univa is not supposed to damage the reputation of Dave Love. As much as I disagree with Dave Love, I've never said bad things cowardly behind someone. Uni

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-12 Thread Joe Landman
On 01/12/2012 02:14 PM, Rayson Ho wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Joe Landman wrote: More than merely wrong, it opens up the people/company who registered it to legal action in the US if univa and/or gridengine are trademarks, or copyrighted of a particular entity. Joe, you haven't s

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-12 Thread Rayson Ho
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Joe Landman wrote: > More than merely wrong, it opens up the people/company who registered it to > legal action in the US if univa and/or gridengine are trademarks, or > copyrighted of a particular entity. Joe, you haven't showed up on the Grid Engine lists for a

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-12 Thread Joe Landman
On 01/11/2012 01:46 AM, Ron Chen wrote: And I just found this one today: http://www.univagridengine.com/ Again, as a contributor who has stayed with Oracle and Sun Grid Engine and Open Grid Scheduler for over 10 years, I think it is unacceptable to register a domain using other company's pro

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-12 Thread William Deegan
u. No product has any value if no one uses it, furthermore without requests from those users products rarely get more useable. -Bill > > > --Chi > > > > - 原始信件 > 寄件者: William Deegan > 收件者: Ron Chen > 副本: users > 寄件日期: 2012/1/11 (三) 3:13 PM > 主

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-11 Thread Chi Chan
Deegan 收件者: Ron Chen 副本: users 寄件日期: 2012/1/11 (三) 3:13 PM 主旨: Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD??? All, I've been reading these discussions for a while. I think generally they are counter productive. If you have a fork (currently there are 3 that I see: Univa, son of gridengine, and

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-11 Thread Chris Dagdigian
Rayson Ho wrote: And finally, thanks Chris for not selling gridengine.org. We started telling people to subscribe to this list since late last year on the Open Grid Scheduler homepage, and hopefully gridengine.org will not be sold in the foreseeable future. History time! -- I bought gridengine

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-11 Thread Rayson Ho
Since I have already responded to this thread (I have tried my best to stay away from this discussion, but William's email just got totally out of whack that I needed to send out the previous email), so now I may as well respond to other things here. 1) Ron's initial reply basically says that Grid

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-11 Thread Rayson Ho
cceptable to register a domain using other >> company's product name. >> >> While Univa has been using FUD against open source, this is not the way to >> revenge. >> >> >>  -Ron >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-11 Thread William Deegan
enge. > > > -Ron > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Ron Chen > To: Mark Magento > Cc: users > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 12:46 AM > Subject: Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD??? > > Hi Mark, > > (Just back from my vac

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-10 Thread Ron Chen
using FUD against open source, this is not the way to revenge.  -Ron - Original Message - From: Ron Chen To: Mark Magento Cc: users Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD??? Hi Mark, (Just back from my vacation and I am really late in

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2012-01-05 Thread Ron Chen
unity for 10+ years I think I need to say something about this!)  -Ron From: Mark Magento To: d...@sonsorol.org Cc: users Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD??? Chris, Thanks for the feedback. After look

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Magento
Chris, Thanks for the feedback. After looking over that post and reading your feedback I have changed the language on it considerably. My overall issue with Univa has been some of the claims they make and I think that it is not beneficial to the community or the project. I have tried to take it

Re: [gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2011-12-16 Thread Chris Dagdigian
> First they closed the > source code, now they are taking over the 'Grid Engine' name. What will > they do next?? my $.02 ... Mark if you wanna see a textbook example of infantile FUD in action all you need to do is read your own blog at http://gridenginetruth.blogspot.com/ gridengine.co

[gridengine users] More Univa FUD???

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Magento
In response the the mails about FUD From Univa, it looks like they have taken over the .com version of this site. Are they trying to create their own community to compete with this one? First they closed the source code, now they are taking over the 'Grid Engine' name. What will they do next?? Mar