Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-17 Thread Tom Evans
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Steve Swift swi...@swiftys.org.uk wrote:
 It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a sample
 favicon.ico (the apache feather, perhaps).


Apache used to* install a more complete welcome page, with favicon,
links to docs, everything a sysadmin might want to look at after
installing Apache.

However, if they didn't add/restore real content to the site, it
looked like the website had been replaced by Apache, which lead to
many many more queries about 'who is apache.org and why have they
stolen my favourite website' than we currently get about a missing
favicon.ico.

Cheers

Tom

* I'm going from my memory here, which is often fallible.

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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-15 Thread Steve Swift
Is not relevant; You're going to get the accesses in there whether they
result in 200 or 404.

On 15 October 2011 06:35, Dan Trainor dan.trai...@gmail.com wrote:

 And the access log?
 On Oct 14, 2011 9:59 PM, Steve Swift swi...@swiftys.org.uk wrote:

 I don't have any particular axe to grind, but putting a favicon.ico in the
 documentroot would avoid the error log starting to fill from the outset.
 Also, for someone who had just installed their first ever server, it would
 give them a clue how to get their own icon to appear in the browser. This
 question comes up regularly.

 On 14 October 2011 22:37, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.netwrote:

 On 10/14/2011 3:56 PM, Steve Swift wrote:
  It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a
 sample favicon.ico
  (the apache feather, perhaps).

 Wouldn't happen.  Take a look at the modern rendition of 'it worked'.

 htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html

 The arbitrary user installs a server, why should that be branded to
 browsers as the ASF?  It is that person's server.

 I suppose you could make a case for a transparent empty icon, though.


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[users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Wild Bill Miller


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Subject: favicon.ico


I am new to the Apache web server.
When I inquire on my domain (www.thepictureshow.net) the web
browser gives an error and says attempt to connect was rejected.
In the error log of Apache it shows an error for file does not exist:
C://program files/apache software foundation/apache 2.2/htdocs/favicon.ico
There is no such file anywhere in the httpd.conf file.
There is no such file anywhere on my computer.
A message in the archives said no problem just add the folder favicon.ico
to the tree. Tried that but it still would not recognize the folder and I 
get the same

error message about file does not exist.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Where is this favicon.ico being generated from?
Any help would be appreciated.

Bill Miller 




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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Mark H. Wood
On one hand:  favicon.ico must be readable by the process which runs
the web server.  Check the ACL on that file.

On the other hand: it is not an error if favicon.ico does not exist.
That's the small image which is typically displayed just to the left
of the URL entry field near the top of the browser window.  If there
is no favicon, the browser just leaves the space blank or substitutes
a default.  Your actual problem is somewhere else.  Check the ACLs on
the other files in htdocs to ensure that httpd can read them, and also
check all of your Allow and Deny commands in httpd.conf to ensure that
your client machine is allowed access to the page you requested.

You may see other errors in the log which will help you to pin down
the actual problem.  Favicon is not it.

  A message in the archives said no problem just add the folder favicon.ico
  to the tree. Tried that but it still would not recognize the folder and I 
  get the same

Woops, I read this again.  favicon.ico is not a folder; it's an image
file.  Find more than you ever wanted to know here:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon

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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Steve Swift
It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a sample
favicon.ico (the apache feather, perhaps).

On 14 October 2011 14:34, Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu wrote:

 On one hand:  favicon.ico must be readable by the process which runs
 the web server.  Check the ACL on that file.

 On the other hand: it is not an error if favicon.ico does not exist.
 That's the small image which is typically displayed just to the left
 of the URL entry field near the top of the browser window.  If there
 is no favicon, the browser just leaves the space blank or substitutes
 a default.  Your actual problem is somewhere else.  Check the ACLs on
 the other files in htdocs to ensure that httpd can read them, and also
 check all of your Allow and Deny commands in httpd.conf to ensure that
 your client machine is allowed access to the page you requested.

 You may see other errors in the log which will help you to pin down
 the actual problem.  Favicon is not it.

   A message in the archives said no problem just add the folder
 favicon.ico
   to the tree. Tried that but it still would not recognize the folder and
 I
   get the same

 Woops, I read this again.  favicon.ico is not a folder; it's an image
 file.  Find more than you ever wanted to know here:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon

 --
 Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   mw...@iupui.edu
 Asking whether markets are efficient is like asking whether people are
 smart.




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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 10/14/2011 3:56 PM, Steve Swift wrote:
 It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a sample 
 favicon.ico
 (the apache feather, perhaps).

Wouldn't happen.  Take a look at the modern rendition of 'it worked'.

htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html

The arbitrary user installs a server, why should that be branded to
browsers as the ASF?  It is that person's server.

I suppose you could make a case for a transparent empty icon, though.


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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Stormy

At 09:56 PM 10/14/2011 +0100, Steve Swift wrote:
It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a sample 
favicon.ico (the apache feather, perhaps).


Why?  It's already above and beyond that httpd gives you a success 
page.  A server is designed to serve what *you* want -- and that includes 
gizmos that have nothing to do with serving.


It's trivial for the owner|user to customize -- I would not want official 
distros to get bloated à la M$.


Best - Paul
Tired old sys-admin



On 14 October 2011 14:34, Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu wrote:
On one hand:  favicon.ico must be readable by the process which runs
the web server.  Check the ACL on that file.
[snip] 



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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Steve Swift
I don't have any particular axe to grind, but putting a favicon.ico in the
documentroot would avoid the error log starting to fill from the outset.
Also, for someone who had just installed their first ever server, it would
give them a clue how to get their own icon to appear in the browser. This
question comes up regularly.

On 14 October 2011 22:37, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:

 On 10/14/2011 3:56 PM, Steve Swift wrote:
  It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a
 sample favicon.ico
  (the apache feather, perhaps).

 Wouldn't happen.  Take a look at the modern rendition of 'it worked'.

 htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html

 The arbitrary user installs a server, why should that be branded to
 browsers as the ASF?  It is that person's server.

 I suppose you could make a case for a transparent empty icon, though.


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Re: [users@httpd] Fw: favicon.ico

2011-10-14 Thread Dan Trainor
And the access log?
On Oct 14, 2011 9:59 PM, Steve Swift swi...@swiftys.org.uk wrote:

 I don't have any particular axe to grind, but putting a favicon.ico in the
 documentroot would avoid the error log starting to fill from the outset.
 Also, for someone who had just installed their first ever server, it would
 give them a clue how to get their own icon to appear in the browser. This
 question comes up regularly.

 On 14 October 2011 22:37, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:

 On 10/14/2011 3:56 PM, Steve Swift wrote:
  It is surprising that the installation of apache does not install a
 sample favicon.ico
  (the apache feather, perhaps).

 Wouldn't happen.  Take a look at the modern rendition of 'it worked'.

 htmlbodyh1It works!/h1/body/html

 The arbitrary user installs a server, why should that be branded to
 browsers as the ASF?  It is that person's server.

 I suppose you could make a case for a transparent empty icon, though.


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