Re: f12

2011-03-09 Thread JB
madunix at gmail.com madunix at gmail.com writes: I will try to add more RAM to it. I have done the yum check ...  all went OK ... but it didn't change the behaviour.  Thanks for your help. ... OK. Now you can look at your system components. Mem:500128k total, 484136k used,

what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”

2011-03-09 Thread erikmccaskey64
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few websites: { +redirect{s@http://@https://@} } .twitter.com .facebook.com Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any *twitter.com URL it gets redirected to HTTPS! But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 09:47 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Back when I started using Unix (1975!) the case-sensitivity was one of the things that made me love it. Of course that was when pretty much every other system only had UPPER CASE (not to mention filenames with 6 alphanumeric

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Tim
Tim: I can't say that I've ever seen any valid reason for filename case sensitivity. Ralf Corsepius: Well did you just have some coke or was it Coke, tIM? Neither. And I've still not seen a valid reason for *wanting* a case sensitive file system. Yes, I've seen reasons why it came to be,

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 03/09/2011 05:23 AM, Tim wrote: . And, generally, that's how most people want to treat file names. I assume you are speaking for yourself on this one - as 'most people' :-) Judging by the about equal vigor on both sides here anyway - your assertion at least seems wrong for that group

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 18:26, Carroll Grigsby cgrigs...@att.net wrote: In many parts of the world, the difference can be quite profound -- the latter could cure your thirst, the former could put you in prison for a long, long time. Case _does_ matter. I agree that yum should ignore case, so

Re: How to install openoffice?

2011-03-09 Thread Dan Daloia
How about: yum groupinstall Office This should install a basic set of packages for Open Office. On 3/8/11 2:40 PM, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, Using f14.x64 I'm trying to install a basic openoffice package with calc and whatever reads .pps files. yum install

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 22:59, Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: On 03/08/2011 06:17 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: You don't have two houses on the same street with the same number, but different number placement. Your argument is based on the idea that lower and upper case versions of a

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
Not true. Computers treat the two cases as separate characters because there is no mechanism of having different versions of the same character. However, humans treat the two cases as two forms of the same character. For a small subset of Western European languages and subject to all sorts of

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: What does it do if you have all of them present? You can´t have all of them present because file creation is case-insensitive. Once A_Bottle_Of_Coke.txt is present, you cannot create A_BOTTLE_OF_COKE.tXt. But you´re free to rename the

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: The question then reduces to: should the yum interface be designed to be comfortable for a computer to interface with, or should the yum interface be comfortable for a human to interface with. -- Dotan Cohen Exactly my

Re: How to install openoffice?

2011-03-09 Thread bsfmig
yum install openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-core openoffice-calc openoffice-write --exclude=openoffice.org-langpack-* yum install openoffice.org-langpack-*your_language_if_not_en_US* or your installation will be incomplete. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 04:51, Martin Airs mar...@airs.me.uk wrote:

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 13:34:19 -0300, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: What does it do if you have all of them present? You can´t have all of them present because file creation is case-insensitive. Once

Re: Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-09 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:10 +0100, Remi Collet wrote: There is (at least) 2 repo which provides firefox4 RPM (which can be installed beside firefox 3.6) http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/ Any idea when this repository is going to be updated to beta 12 ? Its currently got

Thunderbird Misbehaviour f14

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Allen
Hi All, I've just taken the plunge with a f14 upgrade. Almost everything seems sensible. One rather annoying oddity is the behaviour of thunderbird with links in emails. It detects that they are links (by colouring them and the cursor change on mouse-over) but when I click, nothing happens.

Re: [389-users] Changelog Modification

2011-03-09 Thread Rich Megginson
On 03/09/2011 10:11 AM, Stephen Agar wrote: I've seen multiple different types of changes in there flagged as this issue. - Some was a custom directory string attribute, being change from value notActivated to activated I suppose this might be a problem if the schema were somehow different

[389-users] Error finding Registered server on DSGW with HTTP auth enabled

2011-03-09 Thread Bowden, Brendan
Hello all, I'm getting an odd error from the admin server after enabling authentication on the DSGW as described here: http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DSGW#Requiring_Authenticated_Access At first it wouldn't find any users; I tracked that back to it searching under o=NetscapeRoot

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: You can´t have all of them present because file creation is case-insensitive. Once A_Bottle_Of_Coke.txt is present, you cannot create A_BOTTLE_OF_COKE.tXt. But you´re free to rename the existing one to whatever capitalization you like :).

Re: [389-users] Error finding Registered server on DSGW with HTTP auth enabled

2011-03-09 Thread Rich Megginson
On 03/09/2011 10:22 AM, Bowden, Brendan wrote: Hello all, I'm getting an odd error from the admin server after enabling authentication on the DSGW as described here: http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/DSGW#Requiring_Authenticated_Access At first it wouldn't find any users; I tracked

Re: Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/09/2011 10:36 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:10 +0100, Remi Collet wrote: There is (at least) 2 repo which provides firefox4 RPM (which can be installed beside firefox 3.6) http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/ Any idea when this repository is going to be

Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”

2011-03-09 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 9 March 2011 09:30, erikmccaskey64 erikmccaske...@zoho.com wrote: I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few websites: { +redirect{s@http://@https://@} } .twitter.com .facebook.com Should you not ask in a Privoxy forum? This doesn't seem particularly related

Blog system

2011-03-09 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, I want to install a blog on a fedora server to display informations and let users put comments. What is the best package to do that ? BR -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread JB
Alan Evans ame.fedora at gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: You can´t have all of them present because file creation is case-insensitive. Once A_Bottle_Of_Coke.txt is present, you cannot create A_BOTTLE_OF_COKE.tXt. But you´re free to rename the

Re: Blog system

2011-03-09 Thread Mike Dwiggins
Easiest I have found is Word Press. I have four sites running on two servers and comments with control is in the base package. Best of all is that if you own the server WordPress is free. On 3/9/2011 10:51 AM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, I want to install a blog on a fedora server to display

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/09/2011 02:23 AM, Tim wrote: i.e. After listing the directory, and seeing README.TEXT in there,*we* see readme.text, and would like the computer to accept us calling it that Is that the pregnant we? I certainly don't expect Linux to treat README.TEXT the same as readme.text and I doubt

Re: Thunderbird Misbehaviour f14

2011-03-09 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 03/09/2011 12:18 PM, Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi All, I've just taken the plunge with a f14 upgrade. Almost everything seems sensible. One rather annoying oddity is the behaviour of thunderbird with links in emails. It detects that they are links (by colouring them and the cursor

Re: f12

2011-03-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 3/9/11, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: madunix at gmail.com madunix at gmail.com writes: I will try to add more RAM to it. I have done the yum check ...  all went OK ... but it didn't change the behaviour.  Thanks for your help. ... OK. Now you can look at your

RE: Blog system

2011-03-09 Thread compdoc
I want to install a blog on a fedora server to display informations and let users put comments. WordPress is nice... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

3D Chess screen saver

2011-03-09 Thread Aaron Gray
I am looking for an old screensaver that I believe was OpenGL on Fedora that was a chess board. Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: 3D Chess screen saver

2011-03-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:43:02 + Aaron Gray wrote: I am looking for an old screensaver that I believe was OpenGL on Fedora that was a chess board. queens comes with xscreensaver-gl-extras -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS

Re: Installation Impressions

2011-03-09 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Hello, I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I don't have a CD writer at hand, so I downloaded the netinstall image. Following the instructions in the installation guide, I

Fedora 15 alpha desktop login issue after update

2011-03-09 Thread Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula
Hello, I have installed fedora 15 alpha x86_64 on my laptop. After an update ( new gnome-shell = 2.91.91), I did a reboot. I am unable to login with proper credentials through gdm(possible bug in gdm,as I saw gdm being updated as well). please look into it . Thanks Vamsi -- users mailing

Re: 3D Chess screen saver

2011-03-09 Thread Aaron Gray
On 9 March 2011 18:51, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:43:02 + Aaron Gray wrote: I am looking for an old screensaver that I believe was OpenGL on Fedora that was a chess board. queens comes with xscreensaver-gl-extras Okay but I remember a full chess

Re: [389-users] Error finding Registered server on DSGW with HTTP auth enabled

2011-03-09 Thread Bowden, Brendan
Changing the ldapURL didn't seem to affect the admin server or management console, though maybe I just haven't hit any functions that would be affected yet. Assuming the documented auth method is broken, any suggestions for an equivalent? The idea is to require users to login before they get

Re: Fedora 15 alpha desktop login issue after update

2011-03-09 Thread Patrick Lists
On 03/09/2011 08:10 PM, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula wrote: Hello, I have installed fedora 15 alpha x86_64 on my laptop. After an update ( new gnome-shell = 2.91.91), I did a reboot. I am unable to login with proper credentials through gdm(possible bug in gdm,as I saw gdm being updated as

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Alan Evans wrote: I, for example, have directories that contain many files that differ in name only by case. Maybe you can't think of a good reason to do that, but it happens to be a very convenient arrangement in my case. To me, a.png is *not* the same as A.png, and

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote: As noted earlier, this is a distinct issue from whether yum and rpm should be case-insensitive or have a case-insensitive option. I'd be inclined to put warnings next to any case-insensitive matches that

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 13:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: The question then reduces to: should the yum interface be designed to be comfortable for a computer to interface with, or should the yum interface be

selinux vbetool error

2011-03-09 Thread Alex
Hi all, I've just upgraded an fc13 x86_64 box to fc14, and had quite a bit of trouble with the upgrade process due to a hardware problem. After eventually completing the upgrade, I'm left with one remaining selinux error that I can't figure out: [ 10.017350] type=1400 audit(1299697430.359:4):

RE: Firefox 4 betas ?

2011-03-09 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Any idea when this repository is going to be updated to beta 12 ? Its currently got beta 11. From earlier in that thread, you can use remi's... jlc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”

2011-03-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 01:30 -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote: But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ] Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS? The page you referenced explains them. They're part of

Re: selinux vbetool error

2011-03-09 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/09/2011 04:53 PM, Alex wrote: Hi all, I've just upgraded an fc13 x86_64 box to fc14, and had quite a bit of trouble with the upgrade process due to a hardware problem. After eventually completing the upgrade, I'm left with one remaining

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 08:00 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: I assume you are speaking for yourself on this one - as 'most people' :-) No, I am not. If you think otherwise, I think that you're on the wrong end of the, you've misused the meaning of 'most' argument. Or do you have some statistics

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 15:46 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Computers treat the two cases as separate characters because there is no mechanism of having different versions of the same character. Beg yours? There's plenty of procedures for treating A as a in computing. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Searle
Around 10:35pm on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 (UK time), Tim scrawled: I don't think that the few dogmatic users of computers outnumber the great masses of ordinary, less computer literate, users who expect that FILENAME=filename. Partly because that's what they're used to, and partly because

Re: 3D Chess screen saver

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Nichols
On 03/09/2011 01:11 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: On 9 March 2011 18:51, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net mailto:thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:43:02 + Aaron Gray wrote: I am looking for an old screensaver that I believe was OpenGL on Fedora that was a

Re: selinux vbetool error

2011-03-09 Thread Alex
Hi, [   10.017350] type=1400 audit(1299697430.359:4): avc:  denied  { mmap_zero } for  pid=664 comm=vbetool scontext=system_u:system_r:vbetool_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:system_r:vbetool_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=memprotect What is the cause of this, and any suggestions on how to

Packages remaining after upgrade

2011-03-09 Thread Alex
Hi, I've just upgraded from fc13 to fc14, and I've noticed there are multitudes of packages remaining not only from fc13, but even from fc12. I'm sure some of them just haven't been updated, but I had a problem with the recent upgrade, and I'm concerned there may be some lingering problems. For

Re: selinux vbetool error

2011-03-09 Thread Alex
Hi, As a follow-up to my own post, I now have several other selinux errors that I can't figure out: type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1299712804.077:53): arch=c03e syscall=2 success=no exit=-13 a0=fac5b0 a1=241 a2=1b6 a3=3293127420 items=0 ppid=3264 pid=3447 auid=4294967295 uid=489 gid=485 euid=489

Re: Packages remaining after upgrade

2011-03-09 Thread James Wellnitz
Yup, that's normal. These packages have indeed not been rebuilt since f13, or even f12. My system shows much the same stuff: % rpm -qf /etc/fedora-release fedora-release-14-1.noarch % rpm -q expat expat-2.0.1-10.fc13.x86_64 expat-2.0.1-10.fc13.i686 % rpm -q lzo lzo-2.03-3.fc12.x86_64 % rpm

Re: 3D Chess screen saver

2011-03-09 Thread Aaron Gray
On 9 March 2011 22:47, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: On 03/09/2011 01:11 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: On 9 March 2011 18:51, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net mailto:thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:43:02 + Aaron Gray wrote: I am looking

Re: Packages remaining after upgrade

2011-03-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 03/09/2011 05:26 PM, James Wellnitz wrote: Yup, that's normal. These packages have indeed not been rebuilt since f13, or even f12. My system shows much the same stuff: % rpm -qf /etc/fedora-release fedora-release-14-1.noarch % rpm -q expat expat-2.0.1-10.fc13.x86_64

Re: selinux vbetool error

2011-03-09 Thread stan
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:53:48 -0500 Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com wrote: eventually completing the upgrade, I'm left with one remaining selinux error that I can't figure out: [ 10.017350] type=1400 audit(1299697430.359:4): avc: denied { mmap_zero } for pid=664 comm=vbetool

Fedora/3.6.14-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.14 youTube colors are mostly red/yellow, how to reset?

2011-03-09 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
The last two updates seems to have messed up the color palette for FF YouTube videos. All I see are mostly red/yellow colors. I checked my movie players my webcam and they all seem to work properly, its just that youTube on FF does not work at all. I tried Epipany and it works. Is it a FF

Re: Fedora/3.6.14-1.fc13 Firefox/3.6.14 youTube colors are mostly red/yellow, how to reset?

2011-03-09 Thread Chris Smart
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: The last two updates seems to have messed up the color palette for FF YouTube videos. All I see are mostly red/yellow colors. Hardware acceleration on Flash? Right click, disable. -c -- users mailing list

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au said: Beg yours? There's plenty of procedures for treating A as a in computing. In 7 bit ASCII, sure. But the world has moved on (since most of the worlds' languages don't work in 7 bit ASCII), and UTF makes this vastly more complicated

Separate /usr partition

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Nichols
I just noticed that ever since Fedora 11 the Installation Guide recommends against having a /usr partition separate from the root file system (though as recently as Fedora 12 the Example Usage still showed a separate /usr). I've always used a separate /usr kept mounted read-only except when

rebuild kernel add syscall

2011-03-09 Thread xinyou yan
I want to and a new syscall 1 add .long sys_mysyscall inarch/x86/kernel/syscall_table_32.S 2add #define __NR_mysyscall 341 inarch/x86/include/asm/unistd_32. 3.add asmlinkage int sys_mysyscall(char* sourceFile,char* destFile) { int

Re: rebuild kernel add syscall

2011-03-09 Thread xinyou yan
I mean weather i can use sys_open in /kernel/sys.c Or how can i test it but i am in user space ? 2011/3/10 xinyou yan yxy@gmail.com: I want to and a new syscall 1  add .long sys_mysyscall in        arch/x86/kernel/syscall_table_32.S 2    add       #define   __NR_mysyscall   341

Re: rebuild kernel add syscall

2011-03-09 Thread JB
xinyou yan yxy.716 at gmail.com writes: ... $ man strace JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines