Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 11/10/11 03:02, Jared K. Smith wrote: > The Fedora 16 release name is: Beefy Miracle Childish. -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.o

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/11/2011 01:39 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Unless you are happy with everyone telling the "these number of people" > where to put their beefy miracle --- fill in the cliche yourself (does > it still sound "cute" in this context and an inside joke you wish to > exhibit to the world?) Not to

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/10/2011 09:12 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 13:44:53 +1000, >Rohan Ferris wrote: >> I gave 0 for Beefy Miracle also. Is this a joke? > Sort of. "Beefy Miracle" has been an inside joke going back at least > several releases now. A number of people who like it decide

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:29 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, JD wrote: > >> I have done 5 upgrades so far that simply failed. > >> If you have not followed this thread, then please > >> read what I posted re: what failed. > > And, as I pointed o

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:10 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 12:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, JD wrote: > >> And I agree, it is a complex process that newbs and > >> non-techies will always fail at accomplishing. > > Why? My sister is able to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 11:44 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:35 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: > >> > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. > >> > >> So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and > >

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:40 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 10/11/2011 12:13 AM, JD wrote: > > > >> Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The > >> user is expected to know several complex operations > >> and execute them in right order. > > Nonsense.

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/10/2011 10:57 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > - Original message - >> Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, >> then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 >> year olds just learning about wink, wink, nudge, nudge. >> >> It is

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 11:43 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 10/10/2011 11:36 PM, JD wrote: > > > >> But that argues against your own argument that > >> a script will contain bugs. Of course it will - every > >> software ever written had them, and will have th

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 09:42 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: > >> On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: > >>> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. > >>> > >>> On that machine I upgraded from the full

Re: removing packages

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 20:16:07 -0700, JD wrote: > > Well, lo and behold, yum decided that other packages > not in the list would also be removed: You checked dependencies on the package names. There can also be dependencies on files or libraries somewhat independent of the packages themselve

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 13:44:53 +1000, Rohan Ferris wrote: > I gave 0 for Beefy Miracle also. Is this a joke? Sort of. "Beefy Miracle" has been an inside joke going back at least several releases now. A number of people who like it decided to try to get a release named after it. They just succ

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

I gave 0 for Beefy Miracle also. Is this a joke? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > - Original message - > > Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, > > then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 > > year

Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:53 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > With the straight kmod you have to be careful about kernel upgrades > because it will not get updated until the 2nd yum update run Never happened to me. > occasionally there's a significant delay between a new kernel and the > kmod driver b

removing packages

I ran rpm -q --whatrequires libmythavformat52-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 mythtv-themes-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 mythtv-docs-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 libmythdb-0.24_0-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 libmythavcodec52-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 mythes-1.2.1-2.fc14.i686 libmythupnp-0.24_0-0.24.1-277.fc14.i686 libmythlivemedia-0

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:24 +0200, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable? No. Both the drive and the host interface have to support it. You should be able to expect ESATA (external SATA) connected drives and hosts to support it, because external dri

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

- Original message - > Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email  if it is true, > then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 > year olds just learning about wink, wink, nudge, nudge. > > It is so wrong ... its actually a bit replusive I voted a 0

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/10/2011 10:41 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 10/10/2011 06:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> I agree >> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber >>wrote: >> >>> Wow... >>> >>> That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. >>> > Beefy Miracle > Actually, I have to believe

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/10/2011 06:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I agree > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber > wrote: > >> Wow... >> >> That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. >> Beefy Miracle >>> Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, then all I c

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:. > us, it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck so we > see no reason not to call it a duck. i disagree. it doesn't walk like a duck, or swim like a duck. you might be right

Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

I got the proprietary nvidia driver running using the instructions here. http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/fedora-15-nvidia-drivers-install-guide/ Of course it kept running the nouveau driver, even after I followed the instructions there. I had to resort to doing a "dracut -f /boot/init

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

I agree On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber wrote: > Wow... > > That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. > > > On 10/10/2011 09:05 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > > wrote: > >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 rel

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

"Beefy Miracle" Sounds like a new brand of dog food. Thomas Dineen On 10/10/2011 6:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/11/2011 09:05 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith >>wrote: >>> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

Wow... That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. On 10/10/2011 09:05 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > wrote: >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >> results are in! Thank you to the Fedora community members who made

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

You can turn off window tiling using gconf-editor (desktop->gnome->shell->windows) - jos On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > ... >> >> So, naturally, Gnome must ape Windows, and imitate every stupid thing that >> Windows does. >> >> Sigh. > > Exac

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

On 10/11/2011 09:05 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > wrote: >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >> results are in! Thank you to the Fedora community members who made >> name suggestions and participated in the voting. >

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

Sam Varshavchik wrote: ... > > So, naturally, Gnome must ape Windows, and imitate every stupid thing that > Windows does. > > Sigh. Exactly. And there is, unluckily, more stupid things which now appears in Linux. It seems as some developers meditate as "windows do it == users want it". Or there

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/11/2011 03:10 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:52, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> It is a fact. There is a lot of empirical proof for this. Scripts are >> good for single purpose small cases. Once you want to deal with complex >> problems, a script won't scale. Error han

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/10/2011 06:31 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: And this makes you feel like you need to throw a tantrum on this list like a small child? Perhaps you should direct this to the developer responsible... you know the ones... the Gnome devs. Oh wait, Yo

No, I don't want to maximize my window

In my opinion, one of the most annoying, obnoxious, and irritating behaviors in Gnome 3 is its in-your-face maximization of the window I'm dragging, when I move it partly off to the side of the screen. When I'm dragging the window, and the pointer reaches the edge of the screen, Gnome decides

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

I'll try to find out how to debug hp_wmi and then we can start from there. Note: also happens on Ubuntu 11.10 so hopefully a lot more bug testers will appear :p On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Pedro Francisco > wrote: >> Have you reporte

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 23:31, Frantisek Hanzlik > > wrote: > > Aaron Gray wrote: > > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik >> > > wrote: > > >

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

On 10 October 2011 23:31, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz>> > > wrote: > > > > Aaron Gray wrote: > > ... > > > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load > nf_conntrack_tftp module,

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 02:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:33:34 -0400, >sean darcy wrote: >> In addition to this problem the kernel installation only partially >> worked. No modules installed, no initramfs. Solved by getting the kernel >> rpm and reinstalling. > There are som

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik > > wrote: > > Aaron Gray wrote: > ... > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load > nf_conntrack_tftp module, > > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means > /et

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

> Unless my memory's wrong, there are three steps: run preupgrade, > selecting the appropriate Fedora version. Reboot into the preupgrade. > Reboot into your new version. Of course, that second step sometimes > takes a bit of paying attention, but that's how it's designed to work > and it's a

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

On 10 October 2011 22:42, Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> Aaron Gray wrote:Tried that before with F14, made no difference, but I >> will try again. >> > No its not SELinux Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > ... > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load nf_conntrack_tftp > module, > > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means > /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config should > > contain line as: > > ... > >

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:52, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > It is a fact.   There is a lot of empirical proof for this.  Scripts are > good for single purpose small cases.  Once you want to deal with complex > problems, a script won't scale.  Error handling isn't as sophisticated > for instance. I do

Re: Things I cant understand

On 10/10/2011 02:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> You should have just done a "yum install libpcap-devel" to get libpcap. >> There's no need to install from a tarball--libpcap has been in Fedora's >> repos for a LONG time. > > And, AIUI, yum only checks its o

Re: Things I cant understand

On 10/10/2011 01:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > You should have just done a "yum install libpcap-devel" to get libpcap. > There's no need to install from a tarball--libpcap has been in Fedora's > repos for a LONG time. And, AIUI, yum only checks its own database to see what's installed, which is wh

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

Aaron Gray wrote: ... > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load nf_conntrack_tftp > module, > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config > should > contain line as: > ... > IPTABLES_MODULES="nf_conntrack_tftp" > ... > (other m

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

On 10/10/2011 01:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Audio cd's don't usually mount at all. You should be able to put them > in and run your media playing application and it should see the cd and > let you play it. There will not be anything on the desktop however. Yes. We went through this same discussi

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:33:34 -0400, sean darcy wrote: > > In addition to this problem the kernel installation only partially > worked. No modules installed, no initramfs. Solved by getting the kernel > rpm and reinstalling. There are some bugs related to the switch from grub to grub2 and

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Pedro Francisco wrote: > Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report? I've found it on Fedora 16 > as well (different hardware: iwl3945 & hp_wmi) so I'd point to your bug just > to put it in context. In both of your cases this looks to be a bug in wmi. I'm no

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:19:10 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:11 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > Well, if packages not present in a previous release, > should not the new packages that replace them be > marked as "obsoletes " ? If something replaces it. However people make mistakes and this does

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report? I've found it on Fedora 16 as well (different hardware: iwl3945 & hp_wmi) so I'd point to your bug just to put it in context. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 12:26 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > > I cannot

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 01:29 PM, JD wrote: > I'll wait for the full release of f16 in Nov. > and try again. I will try to generate a log > of all the events and outputs. Excellent! Maybe at that time we can find out why your installation of Fedora is different, or what's happening that shouldn't. -- use

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine > the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. > > What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? > > All this is in F15. Applications Menu--> Preferences-->

Re: Things I cant understand

On 10/10/2011 01:12 PM, Joao Daniel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look > what I have done. > 1) > > yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) > tar -zxfv libpcap > cd libpcap > ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ > make > make inst

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:10:37 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine > the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. > > What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? > > All this is in F15. Audio cd's don't usually mount at all. You should b

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

On 10 October 2011 20:25, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > > > Aaron > > You should check at server side: > > 1) if tftp service is enabled: > # chkconfig --list tftp > > Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include nati

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 01:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, JD wrote: >> I have done 5 upgrades so far that simply failed. >> If you have not followed this thread, then please >> read what I posted re: what failed. > And, as I pointed out in another message, your experience is very, very > at

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, JD wrote: > I have done 5 upgrades so far that simply failed. > If you have not followed this thread, then please > read what I posted re: what failed. And, as I pointed out in another message, your experience is very, very atypical. I think you're going way too far in as

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 01:11 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, JD wrote: >> Rahul, >> I tried preupgrade. >> I tried upgrade via DVD. >> I tried upgrade via yum according to >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum >> All of them failed to upgrade the system to ful

Re: Things I cant understand

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Joao Daniel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look > what I have done. > 1) > > yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) > tar -zxfv libpcap > cd libpcap > ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ > make > ma

Things I cant understand

Folks, I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look what I have done. 1) yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) tar -zxfv libpcap cd libpcap ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ make make install 2) yum install ./daq.rpm At this point I got a messagen tell

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, JD wrote: > Rahul, > I tried preupgrade. > I tried upgrade via DVD. > I tried upgrade via yum according to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > All of them failed to upgrade the system to full F16. > Upgrading via all these methods left hund

XFCE does not mount an audio CD

When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? All this is in F15. -- === But you shall not escape my iambics. -- Gaius

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 12:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, JD wrote: >> And I agree, it is a complex process that newbs and >> non-techies will always fail at accomplishing. > Why? My sister is able to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to the > next without any help and she's a complete no

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 12:40 PM, JD wrote: > So, if upgrading is such a complex and trouble > prone operation, what should an ambassador's > message to the world be regarding this issue? > That it can be done but it is fraught with problems > and dangers of rendering your system unreliable > at best, and (i

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:43 AM, JD wrote: > Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The > user is expected to know several complex operations > and execute them in right order. Unless my memory's wrong, there are three steps: run preupgrade, selecting the appropriate Fedora version. Reboot into t

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/11/2011 01:10 AM, JD wrote: I am only saying that upgrading should > be a completely trouble free operation, and that Fedora > devs can indeed fix this problem via a script or even > as you say, a point and click solution, which in it's > current incarnation, does not work. Then file a bug

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, JD wrote: > And I agree, it is a complex process that newbs and > non-techies will always fail at accomplishing. Why? My sister is able to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to the next without any help and she's a complete non-tech. I don't think the average non-tech w

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 09:38 AM, linux guy wrote: > a) My issue was not caused by a yum preupgrade. It happened by running > the complete install DVD over an existing installation, ie upgrading it. Which did you do, upgrade your installation or simply do a new install without reformatting? If you did t

Re: [389-users] 389 pauses every 5 minutes under load

On 10/10/2011 01:34 PM, Justin Gronfur wrote: > On 10/10/2011 12:00 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: >> Are you using replication? Is this a replication master? Is your >> load tester doing delete operations? > > I am not using replication on this particular instance. Load tester > is not doing any d

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/11/2011 12:13 AM, JD wrote: > >> Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The >> user is expected to know several complex operations >> and execute them in right order. > Nonsense. It is a point and click gui. > >> A yum upgrade script wo

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:24:28 +0200 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable? Nope, just esata drives (don't know exactly what the difference is, but there is a difference of some kind). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: [389-users] 389 pauses every 5 minutes under load

On 10/10/2011 12:00 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > Are you using replication? Is this a replication master? Is your > load tester doing delete operations? I am not using replication on this particular instance. Load tester is not doing any delete operations, almost all reads/searches. I would

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

On 10/10/2011 12:24 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: >> You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary >> site is down, but you can find it here: >> http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/ > > Is scsiadd really necessary ? > > I tried using umount then eject

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

Aaron Gray wrote: > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > Aaron You should check at server side: 1) if tftp service is enabled: # chkconfig --list tftp Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

> You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary > site is down, but you can find it here: > http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/ Is scsiadd really necessary ? I tried using umount then eject but I get this error: eject: device "/dev/sdb" doesn't have a re

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/11/2011 12:13 AM, JD wrote: > Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The > user is expected to know several complex operations > and execute them in right order. Nonsense. It is a point and click gui. > A yum upgrade script would be a single point solution > that a user could run.

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/11/2011 12:14 AM, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:35 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >>> > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. >>> >>> So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and >>> newbs most certa

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:35 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >> > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. >> >> So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and >> newbs most certainly need such an expertly written script(s

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:36 PM, JD wrote: > >> But that argues against your own argument that >> a script will contain bugs. Of course it will - every >> software ever written had them, and will have them. > yes. so why is replacing one program with bugs wit

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

Hi, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >  > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. > > So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and > newbs most certainly need such an expertly written script(s). > Scripts are usually meant to deal with corner c

Re: What spins are most minimal?

Hi, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:53:12 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > >> du -hs /* > >        That gives me six-digit numbers in /home, /lib, and /var, but a > seven-digit number in /usr. > What do you mean by 6 and 7 digit numbers? It should return disk

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:36 PM, JD wrote: > But that argues against your own argument that > a script will contain bugs. Of course it will - every > software ever written had them, and will have them. yes. so why is replacing one program with bugs with another script with bugs considered a solution? It

Re: /home double-mounted in F15

On 10/10/2011 11:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems >> to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the >> less, two identical mounts show up: > >> Consequently

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 10:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 10:12 PM, JD wrote: > >> Well, in that case, what's the difference between >> what you say (re: it would have bugs), and all the >> rest of the software, from the kernel to the shell? >> Have they all not had bugs, and continue to have

Re: /home double-mounted in F15

On 10/10/2011 11:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems > to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the > less, two identical mounts show up: > Consequently things like baobab report double the disk space (e.g.

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

On 10 October 2011 18:28, Aaron Gray wrote: > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > It works fine on my F15 laptop and used to work on this machine with F14 before I updated it > Aaron > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

Without more information it's nearly impossible to tell what's wrong. I did a preupgrade on my desktop from F14 to F15 and everything works fine with the binary nvidia drivers. I used both an oldre 7600GT and recently upgrade to a GTS450. I haven't had to mess with my xorg.conf at all. As far as

/home double-mounted in F15

This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the less, two identical mounts show up: [rick@golem4 ~]# mount | grep home /dev/mapper/vg_golem4-lv_home on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,user_xattr,b

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 12:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >>> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >>> >>> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >>> a yum preupgrade. Act

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 10:12 PM, JD wrote: > Well, in that case, what's the difference between > what you say (re: it would have bugs), and all the > rest of the software, from the kernel to the shell? > Have they all not had bugs, and continue to have > bugs today? Yes and the solution is not to replace

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 11:30 AM, sean darcy wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:26 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran >> package-cleanup --cleandupes. >> >> That didn't work. Got endless: >> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SH

Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

**I ask that flamers please withhold whatever comments may derail this thread from its goal of helping me run the proprietary nVidia driver.** Rightly or wrongly, prior to F15, I've used the proprietary nVidia driver almost exclusively. I abandoned the proprietary nVidia driver with my upgrade to

Re: What spins are most minimal?

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:53:12 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > du -hs /* That gives me six-digit numbers in /home, /lib, and /var, but a seven-digit number in /usr. Baobab tells me I'm using 3.2 GB of 3.7, with 1.9 GB or 69.2% in / usr. 53.4% (1.0 GB) is in /usr/share, and 28%(280.8 MB

F15 install. File system errors left uncorrected.

I'm installing F15 on an HP laptop from the F15 KDE Live iso loaded on a USB flash drive. I've installed F15 on 6 computers with no problems using the same iso + drive. Furthermore, it passes the verify and run test when it boots. I'm receiving the following message when the installation is com

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 09:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >>> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >>> >>> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >>> a yum preupgrade. Act

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

I wonder if this thread plays well into the idea > that upgrading using yum should be scripted by > an expert so that us mortals do not have to slog > through this mud :) > > a) My issue was not caused by a yum preupgrade. It happened by running the complete install DVD over an existing installa

Re: Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ?

On 10 October 2011 16:27, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) < jonathan.w.mi...@baesystems.com> wrote: > > Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ? > > Available Packages > tftp.i686 0.49-8.fc15 > fedora > tftp-server.i686 0.49-8.fc15 > fedora > xinet

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >> >> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >> a yum preupgrade. Actually, I did the later, but it failed. >> >> Anyhow,

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/11, JD wrote: > Very interesting (to me). > Had similar problem after I upgraded F14 to F16. > The database got corrupted and rebuilddb would > fail. Gave up and restored back to F14 from backup. To be clear, in my situation the database did not fail. By duplicates, I meant that I had

Re: Rhythymbox on F15 under gnome3 (broken)

I have not been able to get rhythmbox on F15 under gnome3 to work with magnatunes or jamendo. The radio as well as the direct access of music on my pc works fine. Other software like 'movie player' and 'dragon player' work fine. When I try to connect to magnatunes or jamendo it attempts to down

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: > I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. > > On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing > a yum preupgrade. Actually, I did the later, but it failed. > > Anyhow, I believe I ran a yum check all > list.tx

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

On 10/10/2011 08:30 AM, sean darcy wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:26 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran >> package-cleanup --cleandupes. >> >> That didn't work. Got endless: >> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SH

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