Re: Does Fedora repair itself..? What can't/doesn't Fedora repair in itself..?

2011-11-17 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 11/17/2011 03:31 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: Is there a Fedora package that can send an active front-lines point, crawling through the whole OS, determining and repairing any new damage.. to fix it with an always clean secondary read only image, after custom configs done and locked-in the

Re: Error in booting F16 DVD

2011-11-17 Thread Alexander Volovics
On 11/16/2011 11:08 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: When I boot the F16 DVD I first get the screen with the: Install or Upgrade the Fedora After I hit return after what seems like an extended wait {30 sec. or so] I get the following error: systemd{1] failed to fully start up daemon : no such

Re: Does Fedora repair itself..? What can't/doesn't Fedora repair in itself..?

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:31:42 -0800, LM (Linda) wrote: Is there a Fedora package that can send an active front-lines point, crawling through the whole OS, determining and repairing any new damage.. to fix it with an always clean secondary read only image, after custom configs done and

Re: samba changes?

2011-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:11:47 -0700 Craig White wrote: As for 'improvements' - I think I have been saying on this list for a few years now that 'security = share' is deprecated It isn't deprecated in any of the docs I can find, and going through the .conf file line by line and looking up the

Re: samba changes?

2011-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2011 11:22, schrieb Tom Horsley: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:11:47 -0700 Craig White wrote: As for 'improvements' - I think I have been saying on this list for a few years now that 'security = share' is deprecated It isn't deprecated in any of the docs I can find, and going through

Fwd: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

2011-11-17 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
-- Forwarded message -- From: Marcio B. Jr. marcio.barb...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default To: Olivier feui...@bibibox.fr Cc: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk Welcome to Shuttleworth's real open

Re: F16: second monitor is not detected.

2011-11-17 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
On 11/17/2011 01:55 AM, Chris Bredesen wrote: On 11/17/2011 10:26 AM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: Recently updated my laptop to Fedora 16. Fedora 16 is not detecting my second, external, monitor. The Monitor connects with an HDMI connector or a DVI connector through a USB docking station.

F13-F16 via preupgrade: feasible?

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Largy
Is it feasible to go from F13-F16 via preupgrade? The Installation Guide mentions For example, you can upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 16 directly. Great. In this regard is there any real difference between F13 and F14? Tim -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: F13-F16 via preupgrade: feasible?

2011-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/11/11 14:57, Tim Largy wrote: Is it feasible to go from F13-F16 via preupgrade? The Installation Guide mentions For example, you can upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 16 directly. Great. In this regard is there any real difference between F13 and F14? Tim No, you are at most encouraged

Re: F13-F16 via preupgrade: feasible?

2011-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/11/11 15:02, Frank Murphy wrote: No, you are at most encouraged to go more than two releases. ^no^ -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Does Fedora repair itself..? What can't/doesn't Fedora repair in itself..?

2011-11-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: Is there a Fedora package that can send an active front-lines point, crawling through the whole OS, determining and repairing any new damage.. to fix it with an always clean secondary read only image, after custom configs done and locked-in

iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
Fedora 16 x86_64 plus updates-testing Some time ago systemd has started with reporting that both the iptables4 and iptables6 services fail at boot time. For example: | Starting IPv4 firewall with iptables... | Starting IPv4 firewall with iptables failed, see 'systemctl status iptables.service'

Re: iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora 16 x86_64 plus updates-testing Some time ago systemd has started with reporting that both the iptables4 and iptables6 services fail at boot time. For example: | Starting IPv4 firewall with iptables... |

Re: iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Schwendt wrote: Anyone has seen this, too? My iptables is starting normally without user-intervention. Do you have customized iptables rules? If you do, try it without them? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread Deron Meranda
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora 16 x86_64 plus updates-testing ... Once logged in, I can start it manually without problems. SELinux is not the culprit. The services fail also when running permissive mode. It seems as if it's another race

Re: iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:13:01 -0500, DM (Deron) wrote: Fedora 16 x86_64 plus updates-testing ... Once logged in, I can start it manually without problems. SELinux is not the culprit. The services fail also when running permissive mode. It seems as if it's another race between systemd

Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Digimer
Hi all, After upgrading from Fedora 15 to Fedora 16, something broke with postgresql. First, I can't tab-complete 'systemctl status postgres.service', but that's relatively minor. The real concern is that I can't start the service at all; lework:tools# systemctl start postgresql.service

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Digimer
On 11/17/2011 01:42 PM, Digimer wrote: Hi all, After upgrading from Fedora 15 to Fedora 16, something broke with postgresql. First, I can't tab-complete 'systemctl status postgres.service', but that's relatively minor. The real concern is that I can't start the service at all;

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Deron Meranda
Yes, it most likely has to do with upgrading the version of PostgreSQL to 9.1, and any previously-existing databases not being version-compatible. You can see the error messages if you... grep pg_ctl /var/log/messages If you didn't have any databases you need to keep, then just delete the old

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2011 19:52, schrieb Digimer: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. i guess there are logs of postgresql systemd can not know why the binary ends with non-zero code 2. Once the data directory was moved, I had to

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Digimer wrote: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your logs, as with any service issue. 2. Once the data directory was moved, I had to manually

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Nov 17, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Digimer wrote: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. 2. Once the data directory was moved, I had to manually (re)initialize the database. There should be a mechanism for 'start' to realize the

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Deron Meranda
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Digimer wrote: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your logs, as with any

Swap space not enabled at boot in F16

2011-11-17 Thread Deron Meranda
For some reason my swap device is not being enabled (swapon) at boot. It seems that the new systemd swap.target is not doing its thing as I would expect. After booting, I can manually run systemctl start swap.target and it works, with my device then showing up in /proc/swaps. My swap device is a

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: PostgreSQL version upgrades have always had to be handled by data dumps and data imports. With PostgreSQL 9.0 an upgrade utility was created, but it is not run by default as it is not considered stable. It works fine for me though.

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/2011 11:08 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Digimer wrote: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your logs, as with any service issue. I think

Re: Can't start portgresql after F15 - F16 upgrade

2011-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2011 20:36, schrieb Joe Zeff: On 11/17/2011 11:08 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Digimer wrote: 1. This should have generated a more useful error, like data is from an old version and is not compatible. Systemd stdout doesn't handle this and probably never will. Check your logs,

Re: Does Fedora repair itself..? What can't/doesn't Fedora repair in itself..?

2011-11-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 09:36 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 AM, Linda McLeod wrote: Is there a Fedora package that can send an active front-lines point, crawling through the whole OS, determining and repairing any new damage.. to fix it with an always clean secondary read

(SOLVED) Re: f16 booting as f15, /boot/grub2 empty...

2011-11-17 Thread Brian Ericson
From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum, /sbin/grub2-install /dev/sda was useful. On 11/09/2011 07:00 PM, Brian Ericson wrote: Just upgraded my desktop to f16. I note that I see no boot loader (just a blinking cursor for a bit), and then it proceeds to boot as though

Re: Re: Fedora 16 and switchable graphics - ATI Radeon HD 6600M video(Sony VAIO SA25GB)

2011-11-17 Thread fernando
Hi there, So, does Linux in general and F16 support switchable graphics? How do I use that? Support for switchable graphics on Linux is not stable enough for general use. If you want to know the details search the Phoronix news articles. That said, your other option is to go to the BIOS and

gnome-terminal paint issues?

2011-11-17 Thread Brian Ericson
I'm having one-off issues with gnome-terminal on my laptop. At the bottom of the terminal, the results of a command typically (but not always) don't display until I hit enter a second time and PgUp/PgDown in man pages or vim oftentimes don't do anything (then, when the key is hit again, the

Re: Re: Fedora 16 and switchable graphics - ATI Radeon HD 6600M video(Sony VAIO SA25GB)

2011-11-17 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 22:20, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: (But is intel the correct Xorg driver for the Intel HD graphics from the sandy bridge chipset?) Thats the incorrect kernel module name. The names depend on the chipset in use. Mine for example is i915. I would advice ask these

Re: gnome-terminal paint issues?

2011-11-17 Thread Deron Meranda
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Brian Ericson beric...@ptc.com wrote: I'm having one-off issues with gnome-terminal on my laptop.  At the bottom of the terminal, the results of a command typically (but not always) don't display until I hit enter a second time and PgUp/PgDown in man pages or

NetworkManager, dbus, systemd wackyness

2011-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
Every single time I start firefox, or claws-mail, or for all I know anything else that does any kind of network activity, I get messages like this in /var/log/messages: Nov 17 19:40:48 zooty dbus[964]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service':

Re: Fedora 16 and switchable graphics - ATI Radeon HD 6600Mvideo(Sony VAIO SA25GB)

2011-11-17 Thread fernando
Hi, (But is intel the correct Xorg driver for the Intel HD graphics from the sandy bridge chipset?) Thats the incorrect kernel module name. The names depend on the chipset in use. Mine for example is i915. I would advice ask these questions on the Phoronix forums, you will have greater chance

Re: iptables systemd services fail

2011-11-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora 16 x86_64 plus updates-testing Some time ago systemd has started with reporting that both the iptables4 and iptables6 services fail at boot time. For example: | Starting IPv4 firewall with iptables... |

Is android linux done right?

2011-11-17 Thread Skunk Worx
Android may be the fastest growing linux distribution in history. Now that Google has open sourced Ice Cream Sandwich, will some linux distribution leverage the Android Java Desktop just as Android leveraged the linux kernel? Is the Android WM / Compositor so different from X11 that it is

Re: F16: second monitor is not detected.

2011-11-17 Thread Chris Bredesen
On 11/17/2011 07:23 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: What is the keyboard shortcut to toggle mirrored mode? I was not aware that there was one. It is vendor-dependent. My Lenovo is Fn+F7. There's usually some hint on the F keys as to which one does what in function mode. Look for this kind of

Re: bash update killed my shells

2011-11-17 Thread Maciek Borzecki
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: It only takes a second or two and then /etc/shells will be back to normal. But the damage is already done and before you figure this out your things will get broken in a really subtle way (such as brigthness keys not

Re: Fedora 16 and switchable graphics - ATI Radeon HD 6600Mvideo(Sony VAIO SA25GB)

2011-11-17 Thread suvayu ali
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:49, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi, (But is intel the correct Xorg driver for the Intel HD graphics from the sandy bridge chipset?) Thats the incorrect kernel module name. The names depend on the chipset in use. Mine for example is i915. I would advice ask these