On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling
it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it,
afresh.
More info, now that I've had the time to play with my laptop. First,
the kernel in question is
On 04/12/11 04:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Protests about top-posting are usually accompanied by exhortations to
trim quotes to what is relevant.
poc
+1, Similar to this
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On 12/03/2011 09:40 AM, JB wrote:
Even with a total rewrite of GNOME code base, they could choose to offer
GNOME2-like GUI on top of it as a still *default* DE in Fedora, while
If you chose the 'Forced Fallback Mode' in 'System info' you will get
something that resembles Gnome2 (Gnome3 with
On 12/03/2011 09:40 AM, JB wrote:
Even with a total rewrite of GNOME code base, they could choose to offer
GNOME2-like GUI on top of it as a still *default* DE in Fedora, while
If you chose the 'Forced Fallback Mode' in 'System info' you will get
something that resembles Gnome2 (Gnome3 with
On 04/12/11 06:38, david walcroft wrote:
On 12/04/2011 02:33 PM, Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 14:19 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
I can not burn an ISO,there are no error messages,it recognizes a medium
and completes it's md5sum and stops.It also cannot format and erase.This
is on
At work I have a system with static interface addresses. I.e. I have set
the IP-numbers outside of NetworkManager, I even did not have
NetworkManager installed (can not see any reason for that on a system
that is stationary and have static IP_addresses).
Since I upgraded this system from
On 3 Dec 2011, at 21:57, Scott Doty wrote:
On 12/03/2011 12:14 PM, Scott van Looy wrote:
On 3 Dec 2011, at 15:56, Scott Doty wrote:
On 12/03/2011 04:30 AM, Scott van Looy wrote:
Isn't there supposed to be an initramfs for 3.1.2-1?
My system has:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15945815 Dec 1
Ian Malone wrote:
If you do
lsmod |grep nouveau
Do you still see the nouveau module?
Does
lsmod |grep nv
Show the old nv module or nvidia?
Ian Malone wrote:
It looks like nouveau is still being loaded. If you can post the
/etc/X11/xorg.org file and /var/log/Xorg.0.log that might help pin
It seems tablets are mainly portrait and monitors are landscape, maybe
this is why the devs put the icons down the side, gotta be some reason.
There's room for both. I couldn't do blender, Inkscape, Scribus or
Drupal on a tablet, touch screen or not.
Most tablets orient either way, even
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 10:40 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/03/2011 09:40 AM, JB wrote:
Even with a total rewrite of GNOME code base, they could choose to offer
GNOME2-like GUI on top of it as a still *default* DE in Fedora, while
If you chose the 'Forced Fallback Mode' in 'System
On 12/04/2011 05:52 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
At work I have a system with static interface addresses. I.e. I have set
the IP-numbers outside of NetworkManager, I even did not have
NetworkManager installed (can not see any reason for that on a system
that is stationary and have static
It is happening many times. Pls help. How can i solve this problem.
Linux Blog: http://xtreme-linux.blogspot.com/
Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/
My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Vishnupradeep
intermedia.vis...@gmail.comwrote:
O Though, only if you are doing *BASIC* email. Just try something more
complicated, and you'll soon find using a midget gadget just isn't going
to cut the mustard. Scads of mail, threaded properly, etc. There just
isn't the screen real estate, to start with. Then try writing a long
email
On 4 December 2011 11:22, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote:
3. If at this point after rebooting nouveau is still starting then I'm
really stumped. The log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be useful. You
could also capture the dmesg information (the kernel messages) by
doing:
dmesg
On Saturday 03 December 2011 18:50:57 John Aldrich wrote:
Ok, for some reason (probably because I'm using an old KVM switch) my Fedora
16 system is not detecting what monitor I have and is refusing to give me a
usable resolution. I have a Dell E2210H wide-screen monitor and it's
capable of
On 12/04/2011 03:34 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Where does one find System info? I can't find it.
Left click on your name in the upper right corner of the screen.
Chose 'Systems Settings'
Chose 'System Info'
Chose 'Graphics'
There you have a toggle for 'Forced Fallback Mode'
To add things to the
On 12/04/2011 03:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
In Firefox go to about:config and set network.manage-offline-status to
false
In Thunderbird set toolkit.networkmanger.disable to true
Nice! That sounds like the correct things to toggle, I'll test it at
work tomorrow.
Thanks!
Lars
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On 4 Dec 2011, at 10:56, Scott van Looy wrote:
snip
Am perplexed and confused :)
So I force removed bash and then reinstalled everything that dracut depends on
and then reinstalled dracut and that seems to have fixed it.
Fun Sunday morning for me :)
Thanks for your help!
Scott
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On 12/04/2011 08:33 AM, Vishnupradeep wrote:
It is happening many times. Pls help. How can i solve this problem.
Linux Blog: http://xtreme-linux.blogspot.com/
Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/
My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM,
Know anyone where are now website/maillists archives/sources
of Linux PAM?
Latest, several days old Fedora package
pam-1.1.5-1.fc16.src.rpm shows URL
http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/index.html
but this server does not exist.
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On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 08:34 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 10:40 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/03/2011 09:40 AM, JB wrote:
Even with a total rewrite of GNOME code base, they could choose to offer
GNOME2-like GUI on top of it as a still *default* DE in Fedora,
Hi,
Installed F16 and TFTP is working correctly now which is nice:)
Had problems with xinetd and tftpd on F14 and F15, had to use a work around
directly calling tftpd deamon.
Now I am having problems with my second ethernet controller as I am trying
to set it up to be a gateway.
Normal
On 4 December 2011 17:17, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Installed F16 and TFTP is working correctly now which is nice:)
Had problems with xinetd and tftpd on F14 and F15, had to use a work
around directly calling tftpd deamon.
Now I am having problems with my second
AT last I had the opportunity to fully upgrade f14 TO f16 via DVD.
There were not problems reported during upgrade.
Upon reboot (which took forever), I never got the gnome login
screen. Screen remains blank (black).
I believe it may have to do with my video card (old Radeon Mobility 9600).
This
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/
Not sure if that is what you are looking for?
On 4 Dec 2011 at 17:47, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:47:42 +0100
From: Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz
To: Fedora users
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 18:50 -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
Ok, for some reason (probably because I'm using an old KVM switch) my Fedora
16 system is not detecting what monitor I have and is refusing to give me a
usable resolution. I have a Dell E2210H wide-screen monitor and it's capable
of
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 14:01 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
Anyone tell me what to install to get screensaver setup in gnome3?
Specifically to use slide show and my own picture folder?
GNOME 3 no longer includes
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 22:50, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
this is nonsense
the percent does not matter since nearly everybody has a smartphone which is
permanently online, but this does not mean that all these people are only
using a smartphone or tab which will not happen
Am 04.12.2011 19:19, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 22:50, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
this is nonsense
the percent does not matter since nearly everybody has a smartphone which is
permanently online, but this does not mean that all these people are only
Michael D. Setzer II napsal(a):
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/
Not sure if that is what you are looking for?
On 4 Dec 2011 at 17:47, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Date sent:Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:47:42 +0100
From: Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz
To:
On Sunday 04 December 2011 19:59:38 Reindl Harald wrote:
all this counts will not change the fact that workstations and
powerusers will exist in 10 years as they do now
and this is why it is wrong to design defaults only having
smartphones and tabs in mind - ther are people which do much
On 12/04/2011 11:26 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Gnome3 provides a desktop for that vast majority of ignorant people who want a
zero-slope learning curve between the smartphone, TV, computer, car and
microwave oven.
Friday night, I was talking with writer John DeChancie. He was
interested in
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 15:59, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
what did you exactly not understand in the percent does not matter
all this counts will not change the fact that workstations and
powerusers will exist in 10 years as they do now
The percentage DOES matter in terms of
4dec2011
I am getting major Read-only errors trying to backup
my f14 system [on external USB partition sda8],
which still seems to behave ok,
to my 2nd scsi disk onto partition sdc7.
I imagine this means the scsi sdc is going bad,
but how to determine that vs a trashed system file?
sdc7 write
On 12/04/2011 12:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Rest assured, nobody will be taking your XFCE and KDE desktops from
you, if you want to use them on a traditional PC.
But IMHO it´s desirable to see Linux moving into these new grounds.
Exactly. I have no objection to seeing Linux move into the
Am 04.12.2011 21:05, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 15:59, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
what did you exactly not understand in the percent does not matter
all this counts will not change the fact that workstations and
powerusers will exist in 10 years as they
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 17:49, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
you do NOT WANT to understand me
YES I DO. ;)
but it is dumb to make a desktop DEFAULT which ignores real
computers!
I get your point, you´re complaining about Gnome3 being the default. I
hear you, loud and clear, no
On 12/04/2011 01:42 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
I get your point, you´re complaining about Gnome3 being the default. I
hear you, loud and clear, no need to shoot the messenger if you don´t
like someone´s opinions. :)
It looks to me as though he's not so much complaining about Gnome3 being
the
Craig White:
Don't assume that input options remain static or aren't being improved
upon continually. For example, Ice Cream Sandwich implements continuous
speech processing including punctuation which represents a real option
for many.
It's the first thing that springs to mind, as an easy
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 10:52 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
I even did not have NetworkManager installed (can not see any reason
for that on a system that is stationary and have static IP_addresses).
Other than, perhaps, it to automatically notice when you're plugged and
unplugged from the
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 14:35 +, Alan Cox wrote:
It's also getting closer to the point a microprojector will fit into
phone or tablet - now that will have fun opportunities !
I've seen one stuck into a video camera, so that you can watch what you
shot without having to figure out how the hell
[1]Jerry Pournelle, who (along with Larry Niven) predicted pocket
computers in *The Mote In God's Eye,* and *The Gripping Hand,* is
thrilled to see his prediction come true so soon.
In 1974... the handheld calculator already being with us in 1967 and
Moores law already stated. Star Trek was
On 11/27/2011 06:13 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Again, I'd suggest uninstalling the most recent kernel, and reinstalling
it, in order to regenerate the initrd, and the grub menu item for it,
afresh.
I used yumex to do a full update on my laptop, having it remove the most
recent kernel as well.
On Sunday 04 December 2011 12:21:44 Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/04/2011 11:26 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Gnome3 provides a desktop for that vast majority of ignorant people who
want a zero-slope learning curve between the smartphone, TV, computer,
car and microwave oven.
Anything
worth using
Alan Cox wrote:
I've been playing with 3.2 a bit today an F16.
[...snip...]
I still think the biggest mistake was calling it Gnome. It's
something quite different and they'd have upset a lot less people if
they'd not tried to pretend it was the same experience as Gnome.
That has to
On 12/04/2011 07:43 PM, John Pilkington wrote:
On 04/12/11 06:38, david walcroft wrote:
On 12/04/2011 02:33 PM, Craig White wrote:
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 14:19 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
I can not burn an ISO,there are no error messages,it recognizes a medium
and completes it's md5sum and
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 21:34 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 07:37 -0800, Scott Doty wrote:
On 12/03/2011 05:31 AM, Craig White wrote:
As for the hell you imply that I might be feeling - sure. It's hell to
see what undoubtedly passes for adults in other
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/03/2011 02:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Currently - but that's because low end tablet devices can't run modern PC
style software. That will change.
Do you really think that an accountant will ever want to fill out a
spreadsheet on a tablet, even with a keyboard, if a desktop
03.12.2011, 13:48, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com:
It's not that stuff has merely changed. It's that the stuff has changed,
major parts of existing functionality were removed without having any
functional replacements
There is no arguing that the new GNOME 3 is a significant change.
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