Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2 LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype What is this +A stuff? --

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2 LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 02:21 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 October 2012 07:21, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I forward the message in TBird I get what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting... Should have checked But if I view message source in TBird I also see... +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 07:55, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I forward the message in TBird I get what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting... Should have checked But if I view message source in TBird I also

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 02:54 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 22 October 2012 07:21, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 03:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7. FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7 charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite

Re: f17 no video signal on nVidia 8800

2012-10-22 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 00:02 +0200, Alain Roger wrote: i've just downloaded F17 and i tried to install it on my computer x86 having a nVidia 8800 GT video card. after seeing only the logo at boot process, now everything i can see is a black screen :( and the Led of my monitor is blinking so it

Re: f17 no video signal on nVidia 8800

2012-10-22 Thread Alain Roger
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 00:02 +0200, Alain Roger wrote: i've just downloaded F17 and i tried to install it on my computer x86 having a nVidia 8800 GT video card. after seeing only the logo at boot process, now

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Tim
Ed Greshko: I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7. FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7 charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite capable of carrying UTF-8, and

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 04:11 PM, Tim wrote: Ed Greshko: I don't think it is very common to see UTF-7. FWIW Contained within http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7 charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 04:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. Must be an Australian thing :-) :-) Besides, while the servers may leave the text alone they are by no means any better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its own

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 09:24, Ed Greshko wrote: Besides, while the servers may leave the text alone they are by no means any better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its own encoding. So. When you wrote *the* it appears in the actual message source as +ACo-the+ACo. Not very human friendly.

Re: NetworkManager causin problems with DNS settings.

2012-10-22 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 21.10.2012 20:58, Jim wrote: On 10/20/2012 09:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/21/2012 05:29 AM, Jim wrote: On 10/20/2012 04:55 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Get rid of the PEERDNS setting. Getting rid of the PEERDNS setting did not help.. PEERDNS=answer, where answer is one of the following:

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 04:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 22/10/12 09:24, Ed Greshko wrote: Besides, while the servers may leave the text alone they are by no means any better than quoted printable since UTF-7 does its own encoding. So. When you wrote *the* it appears in the actual message source

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 04:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.10.2012 10:19, schrieb Ed Greshko: Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. Must be an Australian thing :-) :-) special chars in imap folder names as example are UTF-7 you learn this by implement

Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Roger
I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It requires javascript to be installed for both Firefox and Chromium browsers. Following the instructions at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64rpm_install.xml jre installed, made link sudo ln -s

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko: My statement was in regards to email messages. Still you get a crap vs. crap trade-off as shown in another message. I see many people whining about the message bodies being encoded in base64 or Q-P.

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16 #2

2012-10-22 Thread Roger
I forgot to mention in the previous post that I also have node.js and execjs installed I do hope someone can help me here. Thanks in advance Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 05:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.10.2012 11:20, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko: My statement was in regards to email messages. Still you get a crap vs. crap trade-off as shown in another message.

RE:Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread arelem
-- From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org; CC: are...@bigpond.com; Subject: Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16 Am 22.10.2012 11:13, schrieb Roger: I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Tim
Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: Whatever Jerk... UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do you find that advice? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 06:18 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: Whatever Jerk... Hummm Reduced to name calling. I thought that beneath you. :-) UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. You said it's

utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do you find

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 17:33 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: you can either argue that the list server software needs to be fixed or configured to do the transformation so you can continue to use your UTF-7. Or you can be a good citizen and use UTF-8at least until the problem that you're

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 11:25, Ian Malone wrote: . Still, whatever reader Marko is using should be able to handle it, if it is GMail then it's a bug in that. Looks fine in Gmail (Web) to me. -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 06:25 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. You said it's discouraged. I've never seen

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 11:30, Tim wrote: another of those strange list moderations? He's still on moderation I believe. His posts might come through later on. -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 06:30 PM, Tim wrote: By the way, in this thread, see a series of messages by Ed Greshko, but with quotes from Reindl Harald that don't seem to be on the list. Yet there's, semi-obviously, been a discussion. Is this private replies being made public, or another of those strange

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Frank Murphy
So, if you use = and _ , etc it will be garbage to most people. Not very friendly for users of the archive. IMHO. Those look fine in the archive, to me at least: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425898.html But your message didn't wrap in the archive at least

Re: Yahoo and thunderbird.

2012-10-22 Thread Sergio
Yahoo does have IMAP on the free service.  Here are the parameters to set it up: http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?locale=en_USpage=contenty=PROD_MAIL_MOBILEid=SLN3361impressions=true If you don't get prompted for a password when you connect, make sure that no other programs (or any

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 04:18:36AM +1030, Tim wrote: Christopher Svanefalk: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Tom Horsley: Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility for tens of thousands of existing applications? But it is shiny and new

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 01:40:49PM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:59:26 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility for

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 06:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: So, if you use = and _ , etc it will be garbage to most people. Not very friendly for users of the archive. IMHO. Those look fine in the archive, to me at least: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425898.html Of

Re: [Lxc-users] [systemd-devel] Unable to run systemd in an LXC / cgroup container.

2012-10-22 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 09:06 +0100, John wrote: On 22/10/12 03:06, Michael H. Warfield wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 02:53 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Michael H. Warfield m...@wittsend.com wrote: This is being directed to the systemd-devel community but I'm

Re: logrotate/logwatch error on fc15

2012-10-22 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Alex pise: Hi, I have an fc15 box and I'm having a problem with logwatch. I'm using bzip2 for the compresscmd for logrotate, yet it somehow is giving the compressed files a gz instead of bz2 extension. Logwatch uses this to determine which command to use to read the compressed files, so it

Re: About 'cost' in repo conf?

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Sergio wrote: In the yum.conf manual is: cost: relative cost of accessing this repository. Useful for weighing one repo's packages as greater/less than any other. defaults to 1000 At first I thought I could use that to set a repo priority but it doesn't work (I set cost to both 1000 and

Re: Suggestion for F19

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/17/2012 12:31 AM, Markus Schönhaber wrote: 16.10.2012 23:11, Joe Zeff: I've just joined the Fedora Project and, after a fair amount of fumbling around, managed to add Bernhardt as a suggestion to the bottom of the list at

Re: Suggestion for F19

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/17/2012 10:56 AM, Markus Schönhaber wrote: Does that really matter? But if you insist: pronouncing it in a similar way as I fart cool should come close, I think. Better ask that someone from Iceland, though... Well, yes, it does, because people are going to want to be

Re: Suggestion for F19

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/17/2012 12:31 PM, Joe Wulf wrote: Joe, I like the sensibility you are suggesting bringing Fedora (names) back to. R, -Joe Thanx. My objection to Beefy Miracle is that it looks suggestive. Not because I mind it being suggestive as such, but because I'm afraid that

Re: Suggestion for F19

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Fred Erickson wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:06 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/17/2012 12:31 PM, Joe Wulf wrote: Joe, I like the sensibility you are suggesting bringing Fedora (names) back to. R, -Joe Thanx. My objection to Beefy Miracle is that it looks suggestive. Not because I mind it

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote: On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. You said it's

Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Alain Roger
Hi, i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ? is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like upgrade ? if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ? thx. -- Alain

Re: Suggestion for F19

2012-10-22 Thread Stephen Berg (Contractor)
On 10/22/2012 09:44 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: A release name is just a way to identify a set, and if Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich are okay, why not Beefy Miracle? Essentially none are meaningful, simply unique identifiers used to facilitate identification. It is a lot less likely to say

Re: Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Temlakos
On 10/22/2012 10:53 AM, Alain Roger wrote: Hi, i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ? is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like upgrade ? if not, is something like that planned in F17 to

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday, 22. October 2012. 7.54.01 Ian Malone wrote: Tim's email is UTF-7. Marko seems to be using gmail but getting plain text. The original looks okay on my gmail, maybe try changing the gmail display language to English? Or use the 'message text garbled' drop-down option for the messahe.

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2 LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype What is this +A

Re: Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Alain Roger
Hi Temlakos, you are talking about data like during upgrade they were wipe out should i understand that upgrade to F17 wipe out all users' data ? is upgrade to F17 not only upgrade system files ? A. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/22/2012 10:53

stop e-mail

2012-10-22 Thread Emil Stefanov
-- Поздрави Емил Стефанов Best Regards Emil Stefanov -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask

Re: stop e-mail

2012-10-22 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users 2012/10/22 Emil Stefanov esteffa...@gmail.com: -- Поздрави Емил Стефанов Best Regards Emil Stefanov -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Temlakos
Replied at bottom of post, as per the proper form: On 10/22/2012 11:10 AM, Alain Roger wrote: Hi Temlakos, you are talking about data like during upgrade they were wipe out should i understand that upgrade to F17 wipe out all users' data ? is upgrade to F17 not only upgrade system files

Re: stop e-mail

2012-10-22 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
read email. -- RMA. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Deepak Bhole
* Roger are...@bigpond.com [2012-10-22 05:13]: I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It requires javascript to be installed for both Firefox and Chromium browsers. Following the instructions at

Re: enable second monitor in F14?

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
F15-F15 are End Of Life and unsopported F16 will be EOL end of this year https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Switch eth0 and eth1, how?

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.10.2012 23:35, schrieb Fernando Cassia: In my server I have eth0 and eth1 (previously were em16, em17, but I hated it so I changed to the traditional approach). Each NIC port is connected to a different ISP. However, more often than not while moving things around I get the cables

Re: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 20:28, schrieb antonio montagnani: antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP. I loaded some images to my facebook account

Re: NetworkManager causin problems with DNS settings.

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 20:58, schrieb Jim: Setting PEERDNS=no did not help, I guess I will have to uninstall NetworkManager, I unistalled NetworkManager and it also uninstalled anaconda. who needs anaconda on a running setup but you could disable it without uninstall I can start network and

Re: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.10.2012 21:07, schrieb Mark LaPierre: On 10/21/2012 02:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the following il giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP.

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 10:19, schrieb Ed Greshko: Whatever UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use it go ahead. Must be an Australian thing :-) :-) special chars in imap folder names as example are UTF-7 you learn this by implement a dbmail-web-backend :-)

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko: My statement was in regards to email messages. Still you get a crap vs. crap trade-off as shown in another message. I see many people whining about the message bodies being encoded in base64 or Q-P. It just doesn't bother me well, compare the

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 11:13, schrieb Roger: I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It requires javascript to be installed for both Firefox and Chromium browsers. Following the instructions at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64rpm_install.xml jre

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 11:20, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 10/22/2012 05:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.10.2012 11:08, schrieb Ed Greshko: My statement was in regards to email messages. Still you get a crap vs. crap trade-off as shown in another message. I see many people whining about the message

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 11:45, schrieb are...@bigpond.com: I know that java and javascript are not the same I googled install javascript fedora16 checksum error - this does not match :-) you are still speaking about javascript JAVASCRIPT is nothing to install, it's in every browser signature.asc

MODERATION - Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 12:30, schrieb Tim: By the way, in this thread, see a series of messages by Ed Greshko, but with quotes from Reindl Harald that don't seem to be on the list. Yet there's, semi-obviously, been a discussion. Is this private replies being made public, or another of those strange

Re: Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.10.2012 16:53, schrieb Alain Roger: Hi, i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ? is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like upgrade ? if not, is something like that planned in F17

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Deepak Bhole
* Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com [2012-10-22 11:38]: * Roger are...@bigpond.com [2012-10-22 05:13]: I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It requires javascript to be installed for both Firefox and Chromium browsers. Following the instructions

Re: utf-7 encoding (Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17)

2012-10-22 Thread Kevin Martin
On 10/22/12 09:52, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote: On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Tim: Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email Ed Greshko: UFT-7 isn't widely used But if you want to use

Re: Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

2012-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2012 08:01 AM, Temlakos wrote: When you put in an F17 live spin or network install disk, it offers you the option to upgrade an existing Fedora installation, so long as it's not too far back. F16 will let you upgrade. Or, of course, you can install and run preupgrade. -- users mailing

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-22 Thread sirdeiu
Hi guys, On another note, I'm now in Fedora 18 Beta TC6 - Just installed from netinstall.iso - KDE desktop. After installation, my NIC's were named with p35pX. So I've just edited /lib/udev/rules.d/71-biosdevname.rules and uncommented the line GOTO=netdevicename_end, saved and rebooted. And

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:56:08PM +0300, sirdeiu wrote: installed from netinstall.iso - KDE desktop. After installation, my NIC's were named with p35pX. So I've just edited /lib/udev/rules.d/71-biosdevname.rules and uncommented the line GOTO=netdevicename_end, saved and rebooted. And got back

anecdotal evidence that people like the Fedora names

2012-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
https://plus.google.com/112917221531140868607/posts/f3ZkN2Lo9ry Incidentally, Spherical Cow is the best codename ever, though I was tickled pink by Beefy Miracle too. I must say (without wanting to raise rivalries neither trolling) that Fedora's codenames are waayy better than Ubuntu's ones.

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-22 Thread Reindl Harald
on machines without biosdevname installed thsese crap simply does not exist (or better: should not) and IF it exists this is a bug! [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ stat /lib/udev/rules.d/71-biosdevname.rules stat: cannot stat `/lib/udev/rules.d/71-biosdevname.rules': No such file or directory Installed:

Re: anecdotal evidence that people like the Fedora names

2012-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2012 01:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: I must say (without wanting to raise rivalries neither trolling) that Fedora's codenames are waayy better than Ubuntu's ones. Spherical Cow Quantal Quetzal If nothing else, they don't look so contrived. -- users mailing list

Re: Javascript problem Fedora 16

2012-10-22 Thread Roger
I do hope someone can help me here. I am learning Ruby on Rails. It requires javascript to be installed for both Firefox and Chromium browsers. Following the instructions at [1]http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64rpm_install.xml jre installed, made link