Sidegrade from F16.x86_64 to F17.i686

2012-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
Would it be possible to sidegrade from a 64bit install to 32bit. This is just for my own bag of info collection. Rather that a lets go do it project. Regards, Frank -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Sidegrade from F16.x86_64 to F17.i686

2012-11-17 Thread Frank Murphy
Would it be possible to sidegrade from a 64bit install to 32bit. This is just for my own bag of info collection. Rather that a lets go do it project. Regards, Frank -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Sidegrade from F16.x86_64 to F17.i686

2012-11-17 Thread Ian Chapman
On 17/11/12 18:01, Frank Murphy wrote: Would it be possible to sidegrade from a 64bit install to 32bit. This is just for my own bag of info collection. Rather that a lets go do it project. It would be possible if you're into pain :-) I certainly wouldn't expect it to be a few commands or a

Re: System fonts are all messed up ????

2012-11-17 Thread Steve
On 11/13/2012 12:04 PM, lee wrote: Steve linuxguy...@gmail.com writes: On 11/10/2012 10:11 AM, Steve wrote: F16 install, KDE, fully up to date. Did an upgrade to F17 via the F17 DVD. Now all the system fonts are messed up, size wise. All of them are way too large. On the session login

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote: Also, in my experience NM does NOT get the DNS settings from the server. I run NM on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop. Normally this works fine - it has certainly improved greatly over the years. But if I go out of WiFi range then NM comments out the DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Marko Vojinovic wrote: Um, no, NM was an *upgrade* from the network service, since the latter doesn't handle wireless interfaces in a reasonable way. I don't agree. The network service runs reasonably well with WiFi, though it is not as convenient as NM. If anything, the old network

abrt: how can you change bugzilla credentials?

2012-11-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
On Fedora 17, I'm getting a few aborts. Before I get to the fundamental problem, I'd like to let abrt file a BZ. The problem is that I mistyped the password when abrt first ran. Now it always uses that wrong password. So it can never succeed. Does anyone know how to change abrt's idea of

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 November 2012, Reindl Harald sent: i agree that it makes no sense if there is no useful domain but the benefits for cases where you have one beats the overhead easily I've tended to find that it's easier to do things if you do have a domain name, even if you've faked

Re: abrt: how can you change bugzilla credentials?

2012-11-17 Thread Sergio
--- Em sáb, 17/11/12, D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com escreveu: De: D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com Assunto: abrt: how can you change bugzilla credentials? Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Data: Sábado, 17 de Novembro de 2012, 12:33 On Fedora 17, I'm getting a few aborts.  Before

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 17.11.2012 00:10, schrieb lee: You never get guest computers, or get asked to take in someone else's computer and fix it, or install Linux on it for them? You never add new devices? Some of which really expect DHCP (network printers, gaming

Re: Fedora 17: Auto configuring wireless networks in Network Manager on first boot

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 04:40:03PM +0100, lee wrote: I believe what you say above is wrong. NM respects the ifcfg-* scripts as it should. What the OP is missing is this line: Then how come that it has emptied out my /etc/resolv.conf though

Re: Reloading amavisd to read spamassassin rules

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com writes: Hi all, I've discovered that when I use service amavisd reload to signal amavisd to reload the spamassassin rules, it sometimes exits completely. If I use restart, it works fine. However, using restart seems unecessary. What is the proper way to signal

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/17/2012 08:47 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Also, in my experience NM does NOT get the DNS settings from the server. I run NM on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop. Normally this works fine - it has certainly improved greatly over the years. But if I go out of WiFi range then NM

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/17/2012 11:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/17/2012 08:47 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Also, in my experience NM does NOT get the DNS settings from the server. I run NM on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop. Normally this works fine - it has certainly improved greatly over the

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use its own independent way or operate according to the information provided in such files instead of messing things up

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/17/2012 08:47 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: To spell it out. My server is an HP MicroServer running CentOS-6.3 . My laptop is a ThinkPad T61p running Fedora-17/KDE . I have shown above the entry I have in /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf on the server . What is your AP? -- Programming today is a

Re: Fedora support for laplets

2012-11-17 Thread Lailah
El mar, 13-11-2012 a las 18:48 +0100, lee escribió: There is some documentation on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/Power_Management_Guide/index.html which might be interesting for you. -- Fedora 17 Thank you, very much! I'm reading it.

How to tell when a file is read from disk or cache?

2012-11-17 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, Is there some way of doing this? - even for a simple situation like opening a text file in Vim? Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: How to tell when a file is read from disk or cache?

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 17:15, schrieb Philip Rhoades: Is there some way of doing this? - even for a simple situation like opening a text file in Vim? no and this is good as it is the usespace must not bother over what VFS does you do not need to know this because it is transparent signature.asc

Re: How to tell when a file is read from disk or cache?

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 18:20, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 17.11.2012 17:15, schrieb Philip Rhoades: Is there some way of doing this? - even for a simple situation like opening a text file in Vim? no and this is good as it is the usespace must not bother over what VFS does you do not need to know

Re: How to tell when a file is read from disk or cache?

2012-11-17 Thread Joachim Backes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2012 05:15 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, Is there some way of doing this? - even for a simple situation like opening a text file in Vim? Thanks, Phil. Perhaps this helps? See the following manpages: Inotify

Re: How to tell when a file is read from disk or cache?

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 18:29, schrieb Joachim Backes: On 11/17/2012 05:15 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, Is there some way of doing this? - even for a simple situation like opening a text file in Vim? Perhaps this helps? See the following manpages: Inotify (7)

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread lee
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use its own independent way or operate according to the information

Re: abrt: how can you change bugzilla credentials?

2012-11-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Sergio sergiocmailbox-userl...@yahoo.com.br | --- Em sáb, 17/11/12, D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com escreveu: | Does anyone know how to change abrt's idea of Bugzilla | credentials? | Go in 'Preferences' and re-configure the bugzilla account. Ah, thanks. I had tried that menu but

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 20:04, schrieb lee: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net writes: Am 17.11.2012 16:25, schrieb lee: Networkmanager is forcibly installed by default and breaks things when you do that --- add that to the list of problems. It should either use its own independent way or

Re: Reloading amavisd to read spamassassin rules

2012-11-17 Thread Alex
Is there a kill signal that I can send? Is there a more appropriate command to use? Huh? Amavisd reads rules for spamassassin? Indirectly, yes. If you don't have something to contribute other than a wise-ass answer, stfu. Regards, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/11/12 13:47, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: The old system-config-network was better for my purposes but attempts to remove NM have caused extremely long boot times each time I've tried that. It would increase from the present thirty seconds or so to several minutes. I

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/2012 02:51 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I find Yumex convenient at times, mainly for it's list of available app's. Yumex would not connect until I yum removed NetworkManager? I don't know what else it may have caused problems with. I have a desktop with NM

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/11/12 17:59, Joe Zeff wrote: Network Connection Test I wasn't aware of that one. Where did you find it? I use XFCE if that matters. -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/2012 03:16 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 17/11/12 17:59, Joe Zeff wrote: Network Connection Test I wasn't aware of that one. Where did you find it? I use XFCE if that matters. So do I, and as it's part of yumex, it's not relevant. In yumex go to

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/11/12 18:33, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/17/2012 03:16 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 17/11/12 17:59, Joe Zeff wrote: Network Connection Test I wasn't aware of that one. Where did you find it? I use XFCE if that matters. So do I, and as it's part of yumex, it's

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-17 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: The old system-config-network was better for my purposes but attempts to remove NM have caused extremely long boot times each time I've tried that. It would increase from the present thirty seconds or so to several minutes Seemingly network-related prolonged bootup times could