Re: KMail trash folder? [solved]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 05:03 AM, Peter Gueckel wrote: Yes, this is what I did, too, and it worked exactly as you described. I am glad it was so intuitive to understand, but I guess I should have filed a bug report after all when I first encountered the problem ;-) now this is real interesting.

Re: lvm or btrfs? which is preferable (when, if applicable)

2013-01-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 20.01.2013, Ranjan Maitra wrote: F18 appears to give two options for installing from scratch: lvm or btrfs. Which one is better from the point of view of the longer-term. While btrfs is a filesystem, lvm is not. Therefore, you can't compare them. See e.g.

Re: Switch to KDE on Fedora 18

2013-01-20 Thread Rares Aioanei
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:38:04 -0800 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 01/19/2013 04:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: it is a VERY bad idea for someone who simply wants KDE why should someone install some hundret MB of software and dependecies just for fun? I don't do kernel development, but I

Re: Keyboard and mouse freezes with F18

2013-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:25:20 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The problem appears after a long period of inactivity I just came back to my f18 system which has been idle all night, and it is talking now with no problems. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Keyboard and mouse freezes with F18

2013-01-20 Thread Frédéric Bron
I'm having a problem with F18 (updated from F17 using fedup and distro-sync). The problem appears after a long period of inactivity (but only some of the time). I have the screensaver turned off and power management set to dim the monitor but not power it down. The screen is lit but keyboard

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 14:50 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Another idiocy in the F18 installer is that there is no way to configure wireless connectivity if the WAP does not broadcast its SSID. Clicking on the configure button does nothing unless you select an entry from the drop down list. You

Re: lvm or btrfs? which is preferable (when, if applicable)

2013-01-20 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 19:00 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I move to lvm, or leave things as is, to ext4? LVM is a container, if you like. It can span multiple disk drives, so they appear as one huge drive. And it can be expanded across even more drives, if you add them, in the future. That

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 14:48, schrieb Tim: On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 14:50 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Another idiocy in the F18 installer is that there is no way to configure wireless connectivity if the WAP does not broadcast its SSID. Clicking on the configure button does nothing unless you select

Re: Keyboard and mouse freezes with F18

2013-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 07:55 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:25:20 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The problem appears after a long period of inactivity I just came back to my f18 system which has been idle all night, and it is talking now with no problems. As I said,

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 01:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +, g wrote: now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email server was filtering. plus, neither of your 2

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 02:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-) (I

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/17/2013 09:20 PM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-) (I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt GT where I come from). Here, GT is a car. Holden GT. also, it could stand for

Re: Keyboard and mouse freezes with F18

2013-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: I'm having a problem with F18 (updated from F17 using fedup and distro-sync). The problem appears after a long period of inactivity (but only some of the time). I have the screensaver turned off and power management set to dim the

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +, g wrote: No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working. i am hoping that it is perfect. It isn't. Think about it: a perfect spam filter would mean you would

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:18:18 +1030 Tim wrote: Hiding it is an idiocy promulgated by dimwits who have no idea what they're talking about. Actually hiding it is a small mercy which can benefit your neighbors, otherwise when they try to connect something to their router, they see a dozen SSIDs

holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Frank McCormick
I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am now concerned Yum will replace my version with Fedoras the next time GThumb is updated. Is there a way to put GThumb on hold using Yum ? Thanks -- --Cheers-- -- users

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g: On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:26, schrieb Tom Horsley: On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:18:18 +1030 Tim wrote: Hiding it is an idiocy promulgated by dimwits who have no idea what they're talking about. Actually hiding it is a small mercy which can benefit your neighbors, otherwise when they try to connect

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:31, schrieb Frank McCormick: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am now concerned Yum will replace my version with Fedoras the next time GThumb is updated. Is there a way to put GThumb on hold

Re: Grub2 installation after upgrading to F18

2013-01-20 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 17:37 +, Jorge Martínez López wrote: Hi! 2013/1/19 Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu I have two machines with atypical disk layouts that I am upgrading to F18. (So far, I've upgraded three using fedup network with no significant issues other than this

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:31:36 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: Is there a way to put GThumb on hold using Yum ? You can put an exclude= line in /etc/yum.conf to exclude packages from being updated, or you can yum erase the fedora gthumb rpm. Both of these techniques have problems of course if there

Re: Grub2 installation after upgrading to F18

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:37, schrieb Matthew Saltzman: Thanks for this advice. Now I still need an answer to my other question. On the RAID1 disks on this machine, as on my laptop, I installed grub on /boot (/dev/sda2) rather than on the MBR. (On my laptop, it's because I wanted to preserve the

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:31:36 -0500 Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. Did you create bugzillas? -- Regards, Frank Ask not what Fedora can do for you, but what you can do for Fedora

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:36:46 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 20.01.2013 15:31, schrieb Frank McCormick: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am now concerned Yum will replace my

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/19/2013 04:46 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Thanks for this important info! my pleasure. glad to help and hope that i cleared up your questions. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/19/2013 04:03 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Well thank you SO much for clearing that up for meI'm in the process of moving ALL my child folders from the Inbox...and placing them on my local hard drive! again, you are welcome and i am glad to help. for no more than what is

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 02:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +, g wrote: No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working. i am hoping that it is perfect. It isn't. Think

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/18/2013 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.01.2013 22:05, schrieb g: how does folder moving tie in between server and client? switch to another folder and back if IDLE push does not refresh enough for you IDLE push? which tree structure is reflected to the other? uhm? the

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post [*solved*]

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 02:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g: On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole. i agree. 5 days and you did not

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 15:38, schrieb g: On 01/18/2013 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.01.2013 22:05, schrieb g: how does folder moving tie in between server and client? switch to another folder and back if IDLE push does not refresh enough for you IDLE push?

How to use a sound theme?

2013-01-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
How do I go about switching to a different sound theme? Gnome's control center only lets me choose one of four lame sounds from /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts. I have a whole bunch of complete sound themes in /usr/share/sounds, but I can't figure out how to use them in F18.

X and file permissions

2013-01-20 Thread Andras Simon
Is it possible that X somehow makes a file inaccessible not when it's running but only when it (X) is shown? Here's what happens: In a virtual console, $ cat /dev/snd/controlC0 [just to see if it's accessible] returns cat: /dev/snd/controlC0: File descriptor in bad state (in a VC) so the

gscan2pdf F18 issue

2013-01-20 Thread Terry Polzin
File save doesn't work nor does e-mail as I don't see a place to enter an address. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-20 Thread Lailah
Are you aware that your mails are totally ciphered so we can't read them? Greetings from Lailah El sáb, 19-01-2013 a las 14:46 +0200, Mika Suomalainen escribió: Error al verificar la firma: Falló al ejecutar gpg. Content-Type: application/x-inlinepgp-signed; charset=utf-8

Re: F18 Splash screen is not shown

2013-01-20 Thread Lailah
El vie, 18-01-2013 a las 11:12 -0500, Bill Davidsen escribió: Animations in splash have gotten boring, I wish they would use something exciting like the FC10 boiling surface of the sun instead of the throbbing meatball as one student described it. I agree, I loved that sun. What

Fonts missing

2013-01-20 Thread Lailah
Hello everybody! Happy new year! I've just installed the Spherical Cow and I can use my older fonts. I used to copypaste from one /usr/share/fonts folder to the other but this time it isn't working. My fonts are in Ubuntu, as root I copy paste from there to my new Fedora. But I can't

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
are YOU aware that your mail-client is broken if it can not handle multi-mime messages with inline GPG? i have forwarded his message at bottom Am 20.01.2013 01:25, schrieb Lailah: Are you aware that your mails are totally ciphered so we can't read them? El sáb, 19-01-2013 a las 14:46 +0200,

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Frank McCormick
On 01/20/2013 09:44 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:31:36 -0500 Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. Did you create bugzillas? Yes, but the problem seems to only affect certain

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Frank McCormick
On 01/20/2013 09:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:36:46 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 20.01.2013 15:31, schrieb Frank McCormick: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am

Re: multiple audio file conversion

2013-01-20 Thread Bobcat
On 01/01/2013 10:31 AM, Claude Jones wrote: Is there a way/tool to convert an entire folder of audio files from one format to another? I know Audacity will let me convert files one at a time, but I'm looking for a way to take a folder of multiple files and convert all of them at once... My files

Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Cross
Yesterday my desktop PC was running Fedora 17 and I was able to watch all kinds of video files using totem. This morning I used FedUp to upgrade the PC to Fedora 18 and since then I haven't found a video file that totem can play successfully. I always get an error message that says: Videos

Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:03:06 + Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: It looks to me like I have fc18 versions of all of the relevant RPMs did you: yum distro-sync? did you re--enable rpmfuion repos? -- Regards, Frank Ask not what Fedora can do for you, but what you can do for Fedora

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Frank McCormick
On 01/20/2013 09:36 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.01.2013 15:31, schrieb Frank McCormick: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am now concerned Yum will replace my version with Fedoras the next time GThumb is

Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:03:06 +, Dave Cross wrote: Yesterday my desktop PC was running Fedora 17 and I was able to watch all kinds of video files using totem. This morning I used FedUp to upgrade the PC to Fedora 18 and since then I haven't found a video file that totem can play

Re: holding a package

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 19:17, schrieb Frank McCormick: On 01/20/2013 09:36 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.01.2013 15:31, schrieb Frank McCormick: I have compiled from source GThumb, as Fedoras package wouldn't run on my machine. My compiled version is fine. I am now concerned Yum will replace my

Re: Fonts missing

2013-01-20 Thread Veeti Paananen
On 01/20/2013 04:45 PM, Lailah wrote: Hello everybody! Happy new year! I've just installed the Spherical Cow and I can use my older fonts. I used to copypaste from one /usr/share/fonts folder to the other but this time it isn't working. My fonts are in Ubuntu, as root I copy

Re: gtk3 theme with arrows in scrollbars?

2013-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:58:03 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Not sure of your exact environment. But you could always install oxygen-gtk3 from KDE. It gets you back your arrows. Yea, I spent some time ploughing through all the themes under /usr/share/themes/ which had definitions for both gtk 2.0

F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Cross
I've been trying to upgrade my laptop from Fedora 17 to Fedora 18 and it hasn't been going well. First I tried to use FedUp. FedUp downloaded all of the files it required. I rebooted and selected the upgrade option. I got the progress meter, but after only about thirty seconds the system rebooted

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:33:50 + Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: That's not such a problem. I have my /home directory on a separate partition, so what I've done before is to reinstall from scratch and reuse the /home partition (so I keep all of my data). But the new Anaconda partitioning

f18: GUI for video converter

2013-01-20 Thread Dario Lesca
For audio exist soundconverter, there is something like this for video? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 17 Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/20/2013 11:33 AM, Dave Cross wrote: So currently I'm booted back into my Fedora 17 installation (that thinks it might be Fedora 18) pondering what my next move would be. I suppose I could just backup all of my data and trash the existing installation. But I'd be disappointed if I can't

f18: how to disable suspend when lid is closed without user logged in

2013-01-20 Thread Dario Lesca
... like old F14+Gnome2 does with a button make default ? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 17 Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Acer V5-171 and Fedora 18

2013-01-20 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello! Is anyone had success with Acer V5-171 laptop and Fedora 18? This laptop has Windows 8 preinstalled and I am not able to install Fedora 18 with Secure Boot enabled or disabled. Similar problem with other distribution. Looks like stuck at GRUB loader. Bye, a -- users mailing list

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread g
On 01/20/2013 03:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE good link. thank you. he can not build structure on the client anything you do happens on the server not quit true. i could build a tree on server and then add branches in thunderbird to do do further

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:38 +, g wrote: On 01/18/2013 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.01.2013 22:05, schrieb g: how does folder moving tie in between server and client? switch to another folder and back if IDLE push does not refresh enough for you IDLE push? which

Re: f18: GUI for video converter

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Gordon
On 01/20/2013 12:58 PM, Dario Lesca wrote: For audio exist soundconverter, there is something like this for video? Perhaps you're looking for something like Transmageddon [1]? [1] http://www.linuxrising.org/ The package is in Fedora, and a simple yum install transmageddon as root should do the

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Dave Cross wrote: I've been trying to upgrade my laptop from Fedora 17 to Fedora 18 and it hasn't been going well. First I tried to use FedUp. FedUp downloaded all of the files it required. I rebooted and selected the upgrade option. I got the progress meter, but after

Re: Switch to KDE on Fedora 18

2013-01-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:44:21 -0800, Michael Eager wrote: I just installed F18 from the live CD. I'm trying to install and switch to KDE. If I enter switchdesk kde, I get a message saying to run yum groupinstall KDE (K Desktop Environment). Yum says that Group KDE does not exist. Right.

Re: Setting video monitor resolution on F18 X Windows Gnome

2013-01-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 15:31 +, Aaron Gray wrote: Hi, I am trying to work out how to set the height and width to use the 1280 by 800 full resolution of my laptop monitor. At the moment Gnome is giving me 1024 by 768. I have tried a few things from forums but none of them worked.

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Cross
On 20 January 2013 20:12, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 01/20/2013 11:33 AM, Dave Cross wrote: So currently I'm booted back into my Fedora 17 installation (that thinks it might be Fedora 18) pondering what my next move would be. I suppose I could just backup all of my data and trash the

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:38 +, g wrote: On 01/18/2013 09:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: which tree structure is reflected to the other? uhm? the whole structure is on the server as also the mails there is no the other at all in other words, email

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Cross
On 20 January 2013 20:55, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote: [ snip ] This sounds like a case of not having enough space on your /boot partition. I had a similar set of issues going from (?) F15 to F16 (or F16 to F17) on my laptop. At the time I had only a 100-200MB /boot partition (if anyting

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Max Pyziur
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Dave Cross wrote: On 20 January 2013 20:55, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote: [ snip ] This sounds like a case of not having enough space on your /boot partition. I had a similar set of issues going from (?) F15 to F16 (or F16 to F17) on my laptop. At the time I had only

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 22:08, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: years ago, when i was using imap, i filtered on my client, not on server. That's because standardized server-side filtering never really got going and isn't well-supported by any widely-used client. And, it's highly unlikely that it ever

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Dave Cross writes: $ rpm -qa | grep fc18 nss-tools-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.4.fc18.x86_64 nss-sysinit-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 nss-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.20.17-1.fc18.x86_64 grubby-8.22-1.fc18.x86_64 So it looks like the aborted FedUp upgrade managed

Re: F17 - F18 Laptop Problems

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 22:37, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Dave Cross writes: $ rpm -qa | grep fc18 nss-tools-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.4.fc18.x86_64 nss-sysinit-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 nss-3.14.1-3.fc18.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.20.17-1.fc18.x86_64

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Reindl Harald writes: Am 20.01.2013 22:08, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: years ago, when i was using imap, i filtered on my client, not on server. That's because standardized server-side filtering never really got going and isn't well-supported by any widely-used client. And, it's highly

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.01.2013 22:48, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: And, it's highly unlikely that it ever will says the developer of courier-imap ignoring that most people these days are using dovecot or gmail and even niche-systems like dbmail supports sieve since years Which standalone email clients can

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-20 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Reindl Harald writes: I'm fully willing to consider the possibility that there are a plethora of sieve-supporting email clients out there that I just don't know about it. But, for some reason, I don't think that to be the case. There are some email clients that might support sieve, I

email

2013-01-20 Thread Cody Robinson
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Re: Acer V5-171 and Fedora 18

2013-01-20 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 January 2013, Artifex Maximus sent: This laptop has Windows 8 preinstalled and I am not able to install Fedora 18 with Secure Boot enabled or disabled. Similar problem with other distribution. Looks like stuck at GRUB loader. Your last sentence sounds more like won't

Updating from Fedora 17 to Fedora 8 using FedUp and grub2

2013-01-20 Thread Edward Diener
I have Fedora 17 installed, using grub2, and have grub2 installed in the /boot partition and not in the MBR. I have a multi-boot manager ( Acronis OSS ) in the MBR. Everything is working fine. As I understand it I must use FedUp in fedora 17 to upgrade to Fedora 18 since the install DVD can

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Tim
Tim: Hiding it is an idiocy promulgated by dimwits who have no idea what they're talking about. Tom Horsley: Actually hiding it is a small mercy which can benefit your neighbors, otherwise when they try to connect something to their router, they see a dozen SSIDs all named LINKSYS :-). It's

Re: Setting video monitor resolution on F18 X Windows Gnome

2013-01-20 Thread Aaron Gray
On 20 January 2013 21:02, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 15:31 +, Aaron Gray wrote: Hi, I am trying to work out how to set the height and width to use the 1280 by 800 full resolution of my laptop monitor. At the moment Gnome is giving me 1024 by

Re: Updating from Fedora 17 to Fedora 8 using FedUp and grub2

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.01.2013 00:51, schrieb Edward Diener: I have Fedora 17 installed, using grub2, and have grub2 installed in the /boot partition and not in the MBR. I have a multi-boot manager ( Acronis OSS ) in the MBR. Everything is working fine. As I understand it I must use FedUp in fedora 17 to

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.01.2013 01:07, schrieb Tim: And there's no such thing as security by obscurity obscurity does not replace security obscurity is there to EXTEND security update your software to fix exploitable code but additionally make it hard to guess even what software and what versions you have

fedora-upgrade from F17-F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Dear friends, I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but rather I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around yum upgrade (from the documentation). Everything went through reasonably smoothly except for the following messages: Font messages such as:

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Alan Cox
Lots of routers don't broadcast and whoever is installing it may not control that. It's broken, just as not showing which disk is which is broken. Its a new installer, crap happens, but pretending its not a bug isn't remotely useful. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Updating from Fedora 17 to Fedora 8 using FedUp and grub2

2013-01-20 Thread Alan Cox
You can also upgrade using yum... which right now appears the only tested way to do it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/18/2013 01:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on us? Whoever decided to reinvent disk partitioning and embed it in this installer

Drivers and devise manager

2013-01-20 Thread Cody Robinson
Don't know how to instal drivers for sony vgn-fw290 and wold like to know if thers a device manager codyr...@gmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-20 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/18/2013 01:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/18/2013 05:03 AM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 02:57 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: I hate them too, but we probably aren't the intended audience. Which raises the question of what the hell is the thought process behind that? Are they

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/20/2013 05:16 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Not all of those complaints are about a simple animation, sometimes it becomes a matter of not wanting to risk losing some important settings and configuration files too...!! That's always possible, of course. Most of the time, the posters

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.01.2013 02:26, schrieb Joe Zeff: That's always possible, of course. Most of the time, the posters are complaining that they don't understand the boot messages and they don't want to see them; all they want is the animation back. That's not to fault them; most computer users

Re: Updating from Fedora 17 to Fedora 18 using FedUp and grub2

2013-01-20 Thread Edward Diener
On 1/20/2013 6:51 PM, Edward Diener wrote: I have Fedora 17 installed, using grub2, and have grub2 installed in the /boot partition and not in the MBR. I have a multi-boot manager ( Acronis OSS ) in the MBR. Everything is working fine. As I understand it I must use FedUp in fedora 17 to upgrade

Re: Updating from Fedora 17 to Fedora 18 using FedUp and grub2

2013-01-20 Thread Edward Diener
On 1/20/2013 7:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.01.2013 00:51, schrieb Edward Diener: I have Fedora 17 installed, using grub2, and have grub2 installed in the /boot partition and not in the MBR. I have a multi-boot manager ( Acronis OSS ) in the MBR. Everything is working fine. As I

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-20 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/20/2013 08:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 21.01.2013 02:26, schrieb Joe Zeff: That's always possible, of course. Most of the time, the posters are complaining that they don't understand the boot messages and they don't want to see them; all they want is the animation back. That's not

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-20 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. Sounds to me like you've encountered

Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-20 Thread David Highley
If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little information about how to do anything other than run firewall-cmd to add or delete specific rules. This really needs documentation so we can understand how it

Re: f18: how to disable suspend when lid is closed without user logged in

2013-01-20 Thread Rex Dieter
Dario Lesca wrote: ... like old F14+Gnome2 does with a button make default ? I believe you can try to edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf and set HandleLidSwitch=ignore -- trc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Drivers and devise manager

2013-01-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/2013 09:14 AM, Cody Robinson wrote: Don't know how to instal drivers for sony vgn-fw290 and wold like to know if thers a device manager Is this the first time you've installed Fedora or any Linux distro on this hardware? Generally, no additional drivers would need to be acquired

Re: Drivers and devise manager

2013-01-20 Thread Cody Robinson
Ill try that the problem is with my hdmi when I plug it in or unplug it. It freeze the system On Jan 20, 2013 10:20 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/21/2013 09:14 AM, Cody Robinson wrote: Don't know how to instal drivers for sony vgn-fw290 and wold like to know if thers a

Re: Where is the detailed docs on firewalld?

2013-01-20 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 01/20/2013 10:34 PM, David Highley wrote: If we are expected to switch to firewalld we need to understand in detail how it works. So far I see a GUI and empty XML files with little information about how to do anything other than run firewall-cmd to add or delete specific rules. This

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
David A. De Graaf wrote: The other good news, that almost compensates for the horrible installer, is that systemd has been partly fixed, so you no longer have to append .service to every command. What genius thought that up? No longer have to have or no longer are allowed to have? Do config

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tim wrote: On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 14:50 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Another idiocy in the F18 installer is that there is no way to configure wireless connectivity if the WAP does not broadcast its SSID. Clicking on the configure button does nothing unless you select an entry from the drop down

How to set up a hotspot with networkmanager in F18

2013-01-20 Thread Zhangsan
Fedora 18 has a feature of realhotspot, but I am unable to find a way to set up a hotspot with kde-plasma-networkmanagement. My card supports AP mode, so I am not sure whether some packages are not installed. Is there any more infomation? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: lvm or btrfs? which is preferable (when, if applicable)

2013-01-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.01.2013 02:00, schrieb Ranjan Maitra: Thanks again for your quick response. OK, so you are suggesting I move to lvm, or leave things as is, to ext4? The new installer does not give me an option to format ext4 (but I can keep it as is, I guess). How does one

Re: Totem problems following FedUp upgrade

2013-01-20 Thread Dave Cross
On 20 January 2013 18:19, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:03:06 +, Dave Cross wrote: Yesterday my desktop PC was running Fedora 17 and I was able to watch all kinds of video files using totem. This morning I used FedUp to upgrade the PC to Fedora 18 and

Re: fedora-upgrade from F17-F18 (mostly successful, but some issues)

2013-01-20 Thread James Freer
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com wrote: Dear friends, I recently upgraded from F17 to F18. I chose not to use fedup but rather I used fedora-upgrade, which is basically a wraparound around yum upgrade (from the documentation). Everything went

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