Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Clive Hills
Ah Ken's ACm lecture on Trusting trust. yes good reading. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: Quoting Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com: Hi On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Javier Perez wrote: I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Edward Martinez
On 9/5/2013 1:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I do not feel safe using it, privacy wise. With NSA's Utah Data Center opening this month, I don't think using SElinux will seem a problem

Re: Speech to text on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Cross
On 5 September 2013 18:08, Jack Craig jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Anyone doing this on Fedora? Have you looked at Festival? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/festival I don't know how actively maintained it is, but it works. Dave... -- Dave Cross ::

Re: Speech to text on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 September 2013 09:15, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 18:08, Jack Craig jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Anyone doing this on Fedora? Have you looked at Festival? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/festival Festival is text to speech,

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/05/2013 09:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote: After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I do not feel safe using it, privacy wise.

Re: Speech to text on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Cross
On 6 September 2013 09:53, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 September 2013 09:15, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 18:08, Jack Craig jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Anyone doing this on Fedora? Have you looked at Festival?

Re: Speech to text on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Andre Robatino
Jack Craig jack.craig.aptos at gmail.com writes: Hi folks, Anyone doing this on Fedora? There is pocketsphinx, and simon on F19 and newer, but I haven't spent enough time on either to figure out how to make them work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect. But recently, it is causing severe headaches. I'm

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread csaba . czuczor
Dear Oliver, You can try OpenOffice from www.openoffice.org It's pretty good for me :). with kind regards Csaba On 06/09/13 14:09, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread linuxnutster
On 09/06/2013 08:09 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/06/2013 01:09 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect. But

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 01:09 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them.

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:09:57 -0400 Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. Well, judging from the office docs we get at work, MS Office isn't compatible with MS Office. No one ever gets updates and whatever version of

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:09:57 -0400 Oliver Ruebenacker cur...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread linuxnutster
On 09/06/2013 08:29 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:09:57 -0400 Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. Well, judging from the office docs we get at work, MS Office isn't compatible with MS Office. No one

Re: Something compatible to ADVERT on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread poma
On 06.09.2013 14:09, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: … It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect. But recently, it is causing severe headaches. I'm importing and exporting as … ADVERT … , and I get cases where it crashes persistently when I want to open a document,

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 6 Sep 2013 at 8:09, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Date sent: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:09:57 -0400 Subject:Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora? From: Oliver Ruebenacker cur...@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Send reply to:

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 September 2013, Tom Horsley sent: Well, judging from the office docs we get at work, MS Office isn't compatible with MS Office. No one ever gets updates and whatever version of office they happen to have hangs around for years, and no two versions seem to produce docs

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 September 2013, Andrew Haley sent: That's what they want you to do. Haha, best retort yet. -- All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Ian Chapman
On 06/09/13 20:09, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Is there a better alternative? Or a better way to use LibreOffice to share with MS Office? If you're willing to pay for software, then SoftMaker Office for Linux is supposed have excellent Microsoft Office support. The demo I tried a year or

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:58:03 +0200 Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote: On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote: My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very well have a backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate circumstances like an NSA-sponsored breach an allow

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote: My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very well have a backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate circumstances like an NSA-sponsored breach an allow unrestricted access to my system.. Every person contributing to free open

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.09.2013 00:35, schrieb Javier Perez: I know it is a long shot and a lot of paranoid-think, after all, if I have to depend on SELinux to defend my system from external breaches, I am F*ck up already. says who? I say so, based on my current knowledge of how to

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.09.2013 23:58, schrieb Javier Perez: I know SELinux is not about encryption, it is about limiting access to the system AFTER a breach has ocurred. (That is my understanding AFAIK, and that is why I think it is a good idea) well, so *why* do you refer to an article about encryption

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com: On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:58:03 +0200 Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote: On 06.09.2013, Javier Perez wrote: My beef is given the NSA origin of this software, It could very well have a backdoor to turn itself off under the appropriate circumstances

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Fred Erickson
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:05:12 -0500 Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying on your brain

Re: Error: connection activation failed: Device not managed by NetworkManager or unavailable after moving machine

2013-09-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/06/2013 09:54 AM, Aaron Gray issued this missive: Thanks. It turns out that the mistake was mine and I had the wrong device plugged in ! Very sorry for the noise :( No worries. I'm pleased that you got it sorted out. On 4 September 2013 17:34, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote:

RE: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Alan Gagne
As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA from feeding your brain with undesired signals. The two

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Doug
On 09/06/2013 08:13 AM, csaba.czuc...@foxconn.com wrote: Dear Oliver, You can try OpenOffice from www.openoffice.org It's pretty good for me :). with kind regards Csaba On 06/09/13 14:09, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing

Re: Does 'YUM install' always install the latest app version?

2013-09-06 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 01:31:16AM -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Martin S shieldf...@gmail.com wrote: Yum default behaviour would be (AFAIK) to install version 23.0 as it would report 21.0 already installed. And find nothing to do. Suppose we're

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, September 6, 2013 2:09 pm, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 06.09.2013, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect. But recently, it is causing severe headaches. I'm importing and exporting as DOCX in Writer, and I get cases where it crashes persistently when I want to open a document, or in

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-06 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net | Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:38:21 +0200 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D319901 | | looks like Redhat based systems are the only remaining | which does not support EECDHE which is a shame these | days in context of PRISM and more and

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, The solution: they forwarded the file to me -- the only one using OpenOffice, by the way under Fedora --- and I could read the file without garbage, or with little garbage and little formatting disruption. I fixed a few lines (if needed) and saved the file again as doc or docx so the rest

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, That is usually solved in all versions prior to office 2007 by installing the office 2007 compatibility pack. I even tried it in office 2000 and it read docx perfectly, but who knows... A few years ago I worked as editor-at-large for a computer magazine. Authors, editors and revisors

Re: Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-06 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 09/06/2013 07:07 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Hi folks, A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? You can find here the

Kernel 3.11 and Fedora 19...

2013-09-06 Thread Fernando Cassia
Hi folks, A few questions considering the nice improvements [1] in Kernel 3.11 1. Is there a kernel spec file for Fedora 19 that could be used to compile a 3.11 kernel with the same build parameters as the F19 one? 2. Which kernel does F20 expect to use? 3. Anyone on this list running kernel

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/06/2013 07:57 AM, Fernando Lozano wrote: The solution: they forwarded the file to me -- the only one using OpenOffice, by the way under Fedora --- and I could read the file without garbage, or with little garbage and little formatting disruption. I fixed a few lines (if needed) and saved

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA from

tls

2013-09-06 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I installed pure-ftpd on my machine to use the TLS protocle. I followed the instructions given in: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-configure-pureftpd-to-accept-tls-sessions-on-fedora-18 TLS                 2 but I still cannot ftp by using ftps (filezilla). Do I need to configure the

Re: Error: connection activation failed: Device not managed by NetworkManager or unavailable after moving machine

2013-09-06 Thread Aaron Gray
Thanks. It turns out that the mistake was mine and I had the wrong device plugged in ! Very sorry for the noise :( On 4 September 2013 17:34, Rick Stevens ri...@alldigital.com wrote: On 09/03/2013 03:01 PM, Aaron Gray issued this missive: Hi, Error: connection activation failed: Device not

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Roger
On 09/07/2013 03:35 AM, Fred Erickson wrote: On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 12:05:12 -0500 Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 11:18 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would

Re: tls

2013-09-06 Thread Patrick Dupre
- Original Message - From: Reindl Harald Sent: 09/07/13 12:48 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: tls Am 07.09.2013 00:43, schrieb Patrick Dupre: I installed pure-ftpd on my machine to use the TLS protocle. I followed the instructions given in:

Re: tls

2013-09-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/06/2013 03:43 PM, Patrick Dupre issued this missive: Hello, I installed pure-ftpd on my machine to use the TLS protocle. I followed the instructions given in: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-configure-pureftpd-to-accept-tls-sessions-on-fedora-18 TLS Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 2 but I still

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Mark LaPierre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2013 08:27 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com mailto:a...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 01:09 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate

Re: Speech to text on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Jack Craig
I appreciate your time regardless, Thx!! On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 September 2013 09:53, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 September 2013 09:15, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 18:08, Jack Craig

Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?

2013-09-06 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Well I hate to work with offimatic suites in general. Is difficult to get the best performance if you are not able to use correctly the revision tools, and sometimes the different versions or different suites make this impossible. We use to work with FOSS software in linux, is part of the

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread g
On 09/06/2013 12:35 PM, Fred Erickson wrote: I love it, this thread is starting to contain some useful information. :) yeah. like what is fud. :=D and that is not a question. i mean their opinion about what is fud. ;=) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread g
On 09/06/2013 06:06 PM, Roger wrote: You can no longer fool me! I even wrapped the whole school bus in 2 layers of insulated foil but it did not work because I could not completely ground the inner layer of foil and the earth peg pulled out of the ground while driving. you needed to have

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Roger
On 09/07/2013 01:02 PM, g wrote: On 09/06/2013 06:06 PM, Roger wrote: You can no longer fool me! I even wrapped the whole school bus in 2 layers of insulated foil but it did not work because I could not completely ground the inner layer of foil and the earth peg pulled out of the ground

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Javier Perez
Loved it! :) As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which would prevent the NSA from spying on your brain waves. But the outside layer needs to be oriented shiny-side out, to prevent the NSA from feeding your brain with undesired

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread Mike Dwiggins
I tried some of this stuff while in the service and almost got busted! Foil on a 5-ton hut did not work well! Mike D. On 9/6/2013 9:25 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Loved it! :) As for the tinfoil hat, it needs two layers --- the inside layer needs to be orientend shiny-side in, which

Re: Turning off SELINUX

2013-09-06 Thread g
On 09/06/2013 10:56 PM, Roger wrote: Nay! that dug trenches in the dirt roads and reduced mileage to 2km.ltr. Side benefit though!. The radio antenna gathered static and charged the 2 layers like a capacitor...kids never touched the windows again, sat like angels, hands on laps, spikey hair