XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Does the desktop edition also contain the XFCE desktop, or do I have to use any XFCE

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/23/14 18:33, Heinz Diehl wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Does the desktop edition also contain the

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 12:16, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/23/14 18:33, Heinz Diehl wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Does

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it seems the full DVD is missing. Right.

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also contained the XFCE desktop. Now, with F21, there's a desktop and a server edition, and it

Re: debugging sluggish CPU frequency transitions

2014-11-23 Thread Timothy Redmond
However sometimes the computer takes a very long time (20 seconds to -- I think -- 15 minutes or more) to react to a change in the load. I have run commands like stress --cpu 1 or stress --cpu 8 and watched i7z. When the governor is powersave it may stay at 800MHz and when the governor is

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:47:08 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to install Fedora, which also

Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Andy Campbell
Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same time ? I like to keep the existing version running, while I test/setup new version, then swap when I'm happy everything is running ok. Previously I've done with a boot loader like Air-Boot ( http://sourceforge.net/

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 19:50, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:47:08 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: On 23.11.2014 18:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:33:29 +0100 Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: Hi, up to F20, I used the respective 4 GB full DVD image to

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2014 11:32 AM, poma wrote: Alice in Wonderland, I talk about the needs of others, not about what I can, pour moi. Throwing DVD is very cheap move by Fedora folks. In this I agree with you. If there's room on the DVD for Gnome, KDE, Xfce and possibly other Desktop Environments, they

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread bitlord
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:48:03 -0800 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 11/23/2014 11:32 AM, poma wrote: Alice in Wonderland, I talk about the needs of others, not about what I can, pour moi. Throwing DVD is very cheap move by Fedora folks. In this I agree with you. If there's room on the

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Workstation does not have the Xfce packages on the media. Thanks, Kevin. That was what I wanted to know. You can of course install Workstation, then 'yum groupinstall xfce-desktop'. Hmm, so I have to install without a desktop environment first, to add

Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
Hi guys. I accidentally pressed ctrl+C during the transaction check on a yum update. Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? Thanks, Hunter -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/23/2014 11:55 AM, bitlord wrote: If you want other desktop you have spins [1], as always, and it was and still is preferred method of installing desktop systems. I've always downloaded the full DVD, customized the installation, and ended up with exactly what I want, not what some dev

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? Just re-run yum update, this should do it. AFAIK, CTRL+C is nothing else than a SIGHUP, so yum should have terminated correctly.

Re: XFCE on F21 desktop

2014-11-23 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2014, Joe Zeff wrote: Why shouldn't people like me who know what they need be able to get it without having to go on-line during the installation to get things? Yes, I agree. This is why I asked. On top of that, it's a big advantage for people with slow internet connections to be

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:02, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Hi guys. I accidentally pressed ctrl+C during the transaction check on a yum update. Is there a command to rerun the command so that whatever I stopped can be done again, and hopefully prevent breakage? Thanks, Hunter man 8

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 19:52, Andy Campbell wrote: Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same time ? I like to keep the existing version running, while I test/setup new version, then swap when I'm happy everything is running ok. Previously I've done with a boot loader

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Andy Campbell fed...@starsend.force9.co.uk wrote: Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same time ? Not automatically. p1 boot1 ( F19) p2 boot2 ( F20) What you end up with in this case, is broken F19 right now because in the

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or extlinux.conf. And the kernels each have distinct naming conventions between distro versions so no

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or extlinux.conf. And the kernels each have distinct naming

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 21:57, poma wrote: On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one grub.cfg or extlinux.conf. And the

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread poma
On 23.11.2014 22:05, poma wrote: On 23.11.2014 21:57, poma wrote: On 23.11.2014 21:47, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, shared single /boot with a extlinux/extlinux.conf That's a good idea also. Single /boot means one

Re: Yum Repairs?

2014-11-23 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 11-23-14 21:09:36 Heinz Diehl wrote: AFAIK, CTRL+C is nothing else than a SIGHUP, SIGINT so yum should have terminated correctly. Yes. -- Garry T. Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Dual boot multiple fedora verions

2014-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:52:51 + (UTC) Andy Campbell wrote: Is there an elegant way to install two versions of Fedora at the same time ? I always use a stand alone grub2 that boots from the MBR and has configfile entries to boot the different fedora versions I have installed in separate