Re: Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

2018-11-03 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
On 4/11/18 5:32 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: On 4/11/18 4:44 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/3/18 10:19 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: What is this io, and can it be stopped? I want to allow the disks to enter low power mode (not spin down) when idle. I'm assuming since it's a new RAID that you haven'

Re: Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

2018-11-03 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
On 4/11/18 4:44 pm, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/3/18 10:19 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: What is this io, and can it be stopped? I want to allow the disks to enter low power mode (not spin down) when idle. I'm assuming since it's a new RAID that you haven't created files on it yet, or at least not m

Re: Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

2018-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/18 10:19 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: What is this io, and can it be stopped? I want to allow the disks to enter low power mode (not spin down) when idle. I'm assuming since it's a new RAID that you haven't created files on it yet, or at least not many. Try running "lsof +D /mnt/point"

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/18 9:48 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:39:41 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: That is a likely cause. Are there any other lines from logind in the journal? What is in /proc/cmdline? I don't know hoe to look in the journal. With regard to /proc/cmdline: In one terminal wind

Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

2018-11-03 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
While configuring a new raid I ran iostat to see that it is idle. It was, and there was no io showing at all. I then mounted it on a new mount point which I have no process using. I started hearing knocks from the PC case, and touching the disks revealed that they all had activity 1-2 times a

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:39:41 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/3/18 6:38 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 17:05:38 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> It appears to be a systemd bug: > >> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10613 > >> > >> Try running "pm-hibernate". For some reaso

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:36:53 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 3 November 2018, Ranjan Maitra sent: > > So, I wanted to mention that the following is what I have on my > > /etc/default/grub > > > > GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 > > GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-rele

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/18 6:38 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 17:05:38 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: It appears to be a systemd bug: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/10613 Try running "pm-hibernate". For some reason, I don't see that program on this laptop and I don't know where it came fro

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 3 November 2018, Ranjan Maitra sent: > So, I wanted to mention that the following is what I have on my > /etc/default/grub > > GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 > GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" > GRUB_DEFAULT=saved > GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true > GRUB_TERMINAL_

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 17:05:38 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/3/18 7:01 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > systemctl hibernate > > > > and I get: > > > > Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't > > hibernate > > > > I have never previously had to configure anything on an

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/4/18 8:05 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/3/18 7:01 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> systemctl hibernate >> >> and I get: >> >> Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate >> >> I have never previously had to configure anything on an upgraded system >> already cap

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/18 7:01 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: systemctl hibernate and I get: Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate I have never previously had to configure anything on an upgraded system already capable of hibernating (once hibernated). Has something changed

Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/18 10:12 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory cards . Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized so I think I have to install a software driver or needed so

Re: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread Richard England
On 11/3/18 12:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. rday +1 with out even the VPN issue :-) --R "One must

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 10:43:08 -0700 stan wrote: > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 09:01:19 -0500 > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > I tried the following: > > > > systemctl hibernate > > > > and I get: > > > > Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't > > hibernate > > > > I have nev

Re: EXTERNAL: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread Wells, Roger K.
On 11/3/18 3:58 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become > used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next > official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. > > rday > +1 -- Roger Wells, P.E. leidos 221 Third St

Re: Will a T42 thinkpad run F29?

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/3/18 2:05 PM, Beartooth wrote: Background: F28 has been the first Fedora release that has given troubles on a couple of old PCs (built for me by friends who speak hardware; so I don't have specs) -- troubles which other friends attribute to those PCs lacking hardware that F28 requi

Will a T42 thinkpad run F29?

2018-11-03 Thread Beartooth
Background: F28 has been the first Fedora release that has given troubles on a couple of old PCs (built for me by friends who speak hardware; so I don't have specs) -- troubles which other friends attribute to those PCs lacking hardware that F28 requires. I'm in process of burning a li

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 08:46:40AM +0100, Alessio Ciregia wrote: On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 2:51 AM William Oliver wrote: I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned for Fedora as well? Hey! Is this a RH

Re: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/3/18 1:12 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On 11/3/18 3:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. rday Second th

Re: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread Mark C. Allman
On 11/3/18 3:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become > used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next > official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. > > rday > Second the "great job."  Upgraded four systems

just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. rday -- Robert P. J. Day

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 17:59:00 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 09:01 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I tried the following: > > > > systemctl hibernate > > > > and I get: > > > > Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't > > hibe

Re: silly question, verify F29, how to download checksum file?

2018-11-03 Thread Alessio Ciregia
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:07 PM Joerg Lechner via users wrote: > > Hi, > when I click in the web page "How to verify" on 64bit Workstation, I get > the next web page showing the checksum file. My question is how to download > this file to initiate the verify? Maybe the answer is too simple,

xfce 4.13 panels have weird colors

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I just upgraded from Fedora 28 to 29 and Xfce 4.12 to 4.13. The background colors of my panel one and panel two have some dark background color, making them hard to read, especial the date and time. Far right of panel 1 on the top Far left of panel 2 on the bottom https://ibb.co/g

Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go. The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin. I just open up launcher panels no longer scale https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828 xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12 https

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 09:01 -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I tried the following: > > systemctl hibernate > > and I get: > > Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate > > I have never previously had to configure anything on an upgraded system > alr

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread stan
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 09:01:19 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I tried the following: > > systemctl hibernate > > and I get: > > Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't > hibernate > > I have never previously had to configure anything on an upgraded > system already ca

Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-03 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno sab, 03/11/2018 alle 18.12 +0100, Ger van Dijck ha scritto: > Hi Red Hat World, > I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA > Flash Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb > Memory cards . > Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized so I th

PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-03 Thread Ger van Dijck
Hi Red Hat World, I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory cards . Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized so I think I have to install a software driver or needed software . Be so nic

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Digimer
On 2018-11-03 10:49 a.m., Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 08:27:03AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:00:17PM -0400, William Oliver wrote: >>> I just read this in The Register -- that  RH is deprecating KDE in >>> RHEL.  As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a

Re: silly question, verify F29, how to download checksum file?

2018-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:16:00AM -0400, Joerg Lechner via users wrote: Hi, when I click in the web page "How to verify" on 64bit Workstation, I get the next web page showing the checksum file. My question is how to download this file to initiate the verify? https://getfedora.org/verify

silly question, verify F29, how to download checksum file?

2018-11-03 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, when I click in the web page "How to verify" on 64bit Workstation, I get the next web page showing the checksum file. My question is how to download this file to initiate the verify? So far I installed Fedora always without verifying, or with the Mediawriter, which does the check. Kind

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 08:27:03AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:00:17PM -0400, William Oliver wrote: I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned for Fedora as well? Red Hat

hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-03 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I tried the following: systemctl hibernate and I get: Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate I have never previously had to configure anything on an upgraded system already capable of hibernating (once hibernated). Has something changed? What do I

GDM mouse position?

2018-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
The most trivial F29 thing I've spotted so far :-). I boot the system, get to the GDM login screen, and the mouse cursor is down near the lower right hand corner of the screen. It used to be in the center right where the login prompt shows up. Does it work this way for everyone, or is there some

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 09:13:25AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's a matter of opinion whether Fedora actually supports KDE even now. > I know it does "officially", but essentially all of the support > documentation assumes you are using Gnome. That's because that's what people wrote abou

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 09:00:17PM -0400, William Oliver wrote: > I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in > RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned > for Fedora as well? Red Hat doesn't make decisions for Fedora. That said: also, no, there

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 08:46 +0100, Alessio Ciregia wrote: > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 2:51 AM William Oliver wrote: > > > I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in > > RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned > > for Fedora as well? > > > > Hey!

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/3/18 2:00 AM, William Oliver wrote: I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned for Fedora as well? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ Provided the IBM deal and keepi

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Germano Massullo
Fesco handles technological decisions, not Red Hat https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getf

Re: Will RedHat deprecate KDE on Fedora?

2018-11-03 Thread Alessio Ciregia
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 2:51 AM William Oliver wrote: > I just read this in The Register -- that RH is deprecating KDE in > RHEL. As a long time fan of KDE, I'm a bit saddened. Is this planned > for Fedora as well? > Hey! Is this a RHEL users mailing list? :-) Fedora is a community driven distro